[EN] Scars
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#peak
42 pages and useless information.
I’ve seen people say that Till’s hallucinations are accurate to Ivan’s character…they are literally embodying (all of) his trauma, not just about Ivan. It took Ivan’s form because that was probably one of the heavier trauma’s.
and if he comes back I will not be sad anymore
I really hope Ivan comes back
Idem
he deserves to come back
Yes beacuse Till need him now
안녕하세요, 저는 안젤라입니다. 이 이야기가 훨씬 더 좋아질 수 있을 것 같아요. 이반을 다시 살려내면 너무 어두운 분위기에 빛이 비춰져서 진정한 명작이 될 수 있을 거예요 ❤️ 매우 감사합니다비비, 정말 고마워요!❤️🤩
I just realized that when Ivan dead at round 6, Till have a nightmare (maybe not a nightmare he's just miss Ivan maybe) but Till look pitty rn asf for suree :(
미지는 죽어야 한다
Okay I might just cry, but when Till gets used to Ivan, it’s so sweet 🥹 But anyways I’m just gonna clear up some translation errors: When Ivan says “For old time’s sake, I’m gonna be touched.” He actually meant “It’s touching because it reminds me of the old times, but…” and then when Ivan says “Why didn’t you tell me before you hurt your throat” he meant “You should’ve done ‘it’ (as in curse at him) before you hurt your throat.” Also when Till says “Why show it to an embarrassing party?” I think he meant that he didn’t show his drawings to him because Ivan was the person “concerned” aka the one he drew, and he thought it would be embarrassing to show Ivan. I’m pretty sure when Ivan goes “ugh” it’s translated a little harshly, so instead I think he meant “hmpf” like in a whiny/grumpy kind of way. When Till asks “were you disappointed” I think he’s talking about how he never showed Ivan his drawings of him… maybe asking if he was disappointed they weren’t better friends or more… and Ivan just smirks (idk why he did that can someone explain?) but anyways then Till says “Let’s not talk” I think it got translated a bit wrong because it meant “Nevermind…” BUT lemme know if you know anything else or I made any mistakes :)
after watching cure that hurt so soooo badly
yeah but it is such a good song
TE AMO CHARLIE
why is everything so saddddd T-T
Im not ready for tomorrow
You mean in 3-4 hours
I declare Ivan IS alive tommorow on everyone's soul but mine!!!!
GUYS THEY ARE PLANING SEASON 2 RIGHT NOW!!! WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE! IVAN WILL COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way vivimeng is about to crush our hearts for a final time Friday 🤣😂🤣😂 I'm not readyyy
I miss ivan sm not even this creepy version can satisfy 😔 Ivan come back please 😢 even as a ghost just be you 😭😭😭
I've said ivan is alive sm that I can't even reject my delusions it's apart of me now
번역은 완벽하지 않았지만, 결국 이반틸이 진짜 메인 커플이라는 걸 보여줘서 감사합니다. 저는 미지가 항상 등장하고, 이반은 방치된 채 틸에게조차 잊혀지는 상황에 지쳐 있었어요. 이반이 죽고 나서야 겨우 틸이 기억해주다니, 정말 너무 불쌍하네요. 다음 주에도 계속 이반 이야기가 이어지길 바랍니다. 작가님이 아직 양심이 있다면요.
어쨌든 영상 속 장면들이 본편이고, 코믹은 그냥 부록일 뿐이라는 게 정말 아쉬워요. 그런데 그 영상들 속에서는 이반이 바랐던 사랑을 받는 장면이 단 하나도 없어요. 정말 안타깝네요.
of course tills survival guilt would manifest as ivan OF COURSE what if i JUST DIE
i just know that’s not Ivan
Yep it's Till's regret or guilt that formed the hallucination of that Ivan
BASTA ROVINARCI LA SANITÀ MENTALE VIVINOS È QMENG
great comic, a bit of a disappointing translation unfortunately. for people paying for patreon i hope that we can get non machine translated comics in the future as to avoid misunderstandings! cant wait for next week ><
I hope they go back to human translations because these recent ones are so .. confusing and mistranslated that it just leaves me completely confused
Yes and my first language is spanish so is more difficult to understand
Incredible works. I'm crying
My Ivan starved heart has now returned to a parched state. I will rejoice and feast on this drop of waifu content. Thank you ALNSTGCREW. I will continue to worship even through hiatus.
Stephanie Choi 영어 번역가는 어디에 있나요? 다시 데려와 주세요. 지금 번역은 정말 실망스럽습니다.
eeeuuuurghgg…. eeuughgggg…..!!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I would really like to see his reaction and handling with the mizi and Ivan clone
Yes this is so good
This comic was so so so good i have tears in my ivantill eyes. Tears of joy. Ivan crumbs
Please never make a season 2 I wouldn't be able to handle seeing the main 3 who are alive living and being happy (ik that's sounds crazy but if they move on it means I also have to and I'm never gonna move on) anyways this truly was our alien stage (I'm not okay)
#EVERYONEISALIVE
Ig Ivan just truly wants to be in Till head no matter if he’s being seen as bad or good… as long as he’s there he’s “alive” THIS IS KILLING ME!😭😭😭
hi friends :3 it's embarrassing to self promote but i just posted my fan translation on my tt if anyone wants it! it's 9kotori
Thank you!! The translation is amazing ❤️
I feel that the end of this comic was Till kind of realizing, “were you disappointed”— that I didn’t try to connect with you more, than I didn’t open up to you more…or rather “I could have opened up to you more…and we could have had a better relationship?” But that realization leads to the teasing expression Till is used to which symbolizes Tills uneasiness of realizing, yes, Ivan would have liked that. Because he feels guilty, thinking about what he could have done differently will be painful.
Agreeing with everyone else that I'd love a non machine translation! There are so many talented people in the fandom who would gladly help with translations if you reached out! Please!
i know it's not purposeful since vivinos and qmeng aren't fluent in english but the english translations of recent comics have been so heavily mistranslated i wonder if it would be possible to get a person who would double check it in the future because a lot of dialogues end up having a completely different meaning compared to the original korean version 😔 the comic itself was great though it's great that we can finally see the aftermath of round 6 from till's pov i find it super interesting! i can't wait for next week's update
Im honestly surprised that it’s impossible to find good fan translations for Alien Stage. The original Korean comics are posted for free but nobody seems interested in making nice nuanced translations that has the ability to. Maybe because there’s no easy place to organize them if somebody did want to. I would love to read better translations so I’m not missing anything
This is so good
The fact that blinghoon released his soda pop cover just two hours after this comic dropped 😭
Blinghoon
Hey Vivinos ykw what would be really funny if you somehow showed Ivan alive in the last comic (or at least state Tills feelings for Ivan PLEASE PLEASE it’s so rough out here😭)
Uhm so about Ivan being alive…
He is...in the actor au
im going to sob
How can any of you guys have hope after this 🥲
It's genuinely amazing
These en translations lately have been a bit disappointing and confusing, I don’t think anyone would mind waiting a longer time if it meant getting a proper translation from a translator as it currently makes understanding the story difficult.
stop using machine translation PLEEEEASE
I'll raise a glass while crying on the floor to this. Great work, as alwaysn❤️🙂↕️
just end my misery
❝𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐠𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐟 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠?❞
I hate hate HATE SO MUCH THAT NOW TILL SEES HIM IN SUCH A TWISTED WAY HURTING HIM ☹️☹️☹️☹️ STOP HE WAS NOT LIKE THIS BUT NOW TILL IS SO GENUINELY TRAUMATIZED 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️ IM JUMPRING OFF A CLIFF
This is Tills guilt and unease manifesting. It’s not like they don’t have tender moments as kids, but that that’s hard to remember because it’s painful. These illusions are Till processing the realization of how Ivan felt about him, how he feels about Ivan (that he clearly isn’t ready to name because it’s that painful for him), and how things could have been different if he’d realized sooner that Ivan really liked him. That last scene, to me, is him realizing “wait…when I didn’t open up to you that probably disappointed you..so if I did then we could have gotten along better?” And then he shuts that line of thinking down saying let’s not speak because while the realization makes him feel hopeful at first, he then remembers it’s too late. “Having these realizations once you’re gone is too painful. These feelings are too painful because they can’t be resolved.”
I can't sp crying help why
Till :(
<///3
I saw a video on instagram saying that till was probably selectively mute due to ptsd💔 I can’t. Ivan is alive.
Ayer me corté el cabello, hoy será el cuello
El cuchillo de la cocina me está haciendo ojitos..
I love this comic a lot!!! But I wish a translator was hired like in the other comics.... this one feels almost like MTL? Was there no time to hire one?
Crying 3 hours later ugh my heart hurts whyyyy whyy did you kill him
Genuinely gonna throw up this inst real 😭😭😭
First of all, thank you for the hard work, stayed up till 6 am for the comic :'D. That being said, this translation feels really off...
💔💔💔
Till self-harming because all of the guilt and hate he feels towards himself breaks my heart. Ivan sliding his hand under his shirt and kissing him to shut him up... his presence in Till's mind is so oppressive and disturbing. He left deep scars, both physical and mental, and although it's what he desired, I don't think he would be completely happy with this outcome.
He wouldn’t because that’s exactly what he called Sua out for. But he realized in the end what that desperation was like and that it was unavoidable. Tills guilt here is that he didn’t show Ivan more love while he was alive and realizing now that they could have had a better relationship and that he “let Ivan down” is so painful for him, BECAUSE he cares. He’s realizing he could have paid more attention and made more attempts to understand Ivan and that if he did, I’d probably would have been positive for them both. But now it’s too late. It’s not that Ivan is too oppressing, it’s Tills regret that is oppressing him. It’s the feeling he has for Ivan that he’s too scared to name that is feeling oppressive. Based on his own hallucination, the thing he wants to tell Ivan is something he thinks would make Ivan happy. Realizing how much you care about somebody when it’s too late to show them is the oppressive feeling here.
I think this comic instead of portraying Ivan in a bad light, it actually shows how much Ivan's 'death' affected Till. At round 7 before Till passes out, he was gently cradled by Mizi yet we all know that the xylophone that plays before the video ended that was a gift from Ivan was what he really felt before he passed out. Till has always been someone who is able to express and understand his emotions clearly out of the main cast but with Ivan, he was someone who is complicated, confusing, frustrating to understand. Towards Till, growing up Ivan shows his affection through what we like to call 'rage baiting'. His form of affection comes through by using blunt words which is often miscommunicated with Till. I would like to believe this hallucination was what Till manifested because Ivan was someone he still couldn't let go. With the droplets and outfit that Ivan was wearing, it was a hallucination that Till created as it was one of the moments that affected him the most. Funny thing is even though we know that Till portrays a lot of anger towards Ivan, we also see that Till has a lot of regrets with Ivan's death, the words that comes out from Ivan shows a lot of distaste and disdain towards himself which we all know Ivan would never say that, it was just feelings that Till was projecting the manifestation to say to him due to survivor's guilt. All in all, the relationship between both of them was just right person, not enough time. Actually coming from somebody that also doesn't know how to communicate my feelings properly, it's just a long and tedious process with communicating, but with time it does get through with one and another. In this case, they had no time. P.S Have we wondered what's Till's POV like when he declined to run away with Ivan, how much remorse he has for Ivan for rejecting because if he had agreed, Ivan would still be alive. All this feelings would then have snowballed into a huge ball of self-hatred towards himself especially with Till being a sensitive person, he probably would have escalated the negative emotions by blaming himself for Ivan's death.
just saying I'm still believing that Ivan is not dead, I don't care. Fight me
To be continued!! So happy
I had a daydream that next chapter till's in the place saving the kids then The gaurds comes and stops him till shoots his helmet off and then ivan was there so alive and healthy and then we had our happy ending. This was truly our alien stage
Peak
I love this comic a lot! But the translation is pretty off in some cases?? A lot of meaning got changed from Korean here
💔 n.nnoo…noooo…Ivan
tears in my ivantill eyes
HE IS SO ALIVE YALL IVAN IS SO ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!
i say as they drag me away
oh my god oh my fod oh my god
i still dont get how people think tills feelings are reciprocated? i mean ivans literally haunting him rn
I think its more that because Till has gone through so much, he's traumitized and he's relying on whats comfortable for him which is Ivan. Its less haunting and more hallucinating
I’m so excited to get some more insight on Till and Ivan! Ivan especially, love me some Till but we really haven’t spent a lot of time with Ivan and I know this is something Till has created but insight about Ivan through Till ❤️
Guys it's over they say the last comic will be thr 18th 🥲 we needa accept it ivan is dead 😪😪😪😪
so he’s actually alive in my basement safe and sound!
Wonderful, thank you so much. I love to see what happend after Till was saved and his point of view
I'm about to crash out, i have no one to talk about this 💔
same 💔
my HEARTTTT WHATTT AND THE TO BE CONTINUED
🩷😭✨
Thank you for the additional content, Vivinos + team! 💜
How am i going to cope with this
OH MY GODDDD IM GONNA THROW UP
Till repeatedly scratched his neck till it bled because it made Ivan shut up
Omg the Paradise reference!!!! So from what I get, that song is kind refering to this moment!
this destroyed me eternally
I’m losing my mind
I NEED TO SEE IVANS ANGEL ALREADY WHERE IS DUDE HIDING
It's not there cause he's in a coma and very alive 😊
Is it just me or the translation is very confusing
its a machine translation so. yeah
FINALLY, THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION, THANKS TO EVERYONE And speaking of the comic, for me this shows that they did indeed have a lot of communication problems. Ivan was never clear about his feelings and sent very confusing signals, and I feel that Till was never interested enough in him to try to see what was wrong in their relationship. He just coexisted with Ivan and nothing more. If things were going well with him, great, and if not, he just tried to avoid him and that was it. And I feel that it's precisely because of all these misunderstandings that neither of them bothered to clarify (each one for their own reasons) that now Till has this distorted mental image of Ivan that torments him so much. Because Ivan was a weird guy, I can't deny it (even though he's my favorite character, haha!), but I don't think he would treat Till this way. He wanted Till to see him and love him, but to the point of him being tormented and living unhappily for the rest of his life? I don't think so. He didn't sacrifice himself and died in round 6 for Till's sake for nothing! When they managed to escape and Till decided to go back, Ivan could have insisted that they should leave, but as soon as Till decided he didn't want to leave the others behind, Ivan accepted his decision and went back with him. That's why I don't think Ivan is a bad person, but he makes very bad decisions sometimes...
Yeah this definitely feels like Till’s interpretation of Ivan, and the manner in which he’s being haunted by “him” or more so the memories left behind after Ivans death
this is machine tl which is fine but it makes a lot of the lines wrong or easily misunderstood 😭 "for old times' sake, i'm going to be touched" is totally wrong LOL it's more like "it's just like the old days, it's kind of touching" as in like moving
i'll make a fan tl if anyone is interested
I need SOMEONE to talk about alien stage with😭😭 we should create a support group and bring Ivan back
Hi. No need to bring Ivan back because he's still alive!
rare till pov
OMG ITS HERE
MY BABIESSSS 💔💔💔
so hot so handsome i love you parasite ghost ivan designed to torment till forever 😔😭
till got used to the parasite 🥀
Kms in 3 2 1
I hope and I pray that this comic finally opens the eyes of some people in this Fandom who for some reason can't stop glorifying Ivan and Tills relationship. I thought it was obvious when Blink Gone came out, but Ivan isn't a good memory for Till. For Till, Ivan is a BAD memory.
I was never here for ivantil 💔 just ivan ( please wake up rn)
yesss it's perfect thank you Vivinos you always do doomed gl soooo well and now I get doomed bl I'm in heaven I love it here the emotions and stories are so captivating 💖
idk if he can actually talk, based on his mouth being closed and the black bubbles, i think him “talking” to ivan is not out loud. but idk
i really adore this comic but 20th panel is translated incorrectly... it looks like the line abt mizi was used twice ;__;
Ivan content but at what cost
TILL POV JM GKNNA VUSS
FINALLYYY
tilling myself.
thank you.... thank you..... you've brought me to my knees in devastation thank you so much
"I was slowly getting used to what felt like a parasite". Oh, that hit right in the feels
FINALLY TILL POV COMIC REVEAL ABOUT IVAN BUT AT WHAT COST
He's just sleeping he's alive trust
Thank you so much team vivimeng and staff…. I’m really getting everything I could have wanted out of experiencing alien stage, and more! Thank you thank you I am just beside myself with privilege getting to be part of this every week lol
tfw your wife is a demon haunting you to the point you can't speak
Why did I even wait for the translation ffs i should’ve accepted the agony of the art already but no i chose double torture
i just can't stop seeing that guard are checking on ivan. they saved him, belive me, war is not over yet! (but my mental health is.....)
Yeah like why are they checking him and not immediately moving him away? Cause he's alive (I don't even believe myself anymore)
the translation is a bit off🥲
I’m actually crying rn
He's alive stop crying he is
guys what do you think he scribbled out..
thats crazy
HE DID THE SCARS HIMSELF?.. MY SHAYLA💔
Im (sua)siding🥀
im crying yall 😭
FINALLY OMFG😭😭
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
TILL HALLUCINATING IVAN IS REAL! LETS ALL CRY
oh my gosh
can the real ivan show up now haha
WAIT SO GUYS TILL ISNT MUTE BECAUSE HIS THROAT HASNT HEALED YET. HES MUTE BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT TO SEE IVAN? Im shooting myself
I think is more for keep him quiet 😭
Thank you for this. Still feeling sick... I wanna cry. I wanna scream.
THEY SHOWED US WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER R6 😭 TILL IS REACHING OUT TO IVAN 💔💔💔
ivan is alive
the way he remembers/imagines ivan is so EVILL!!! ALIEN STAGE HAUNTS MY NIGHTMARES!!!
Please Ivan is alive, I know Ivan is alive, he has to be alive.
is it just me or is the translation messy in some parts..
Nah you're right
amazing
im gonna projectile vomit so hard
IVAN IS ALIVE🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
LEGENDS (that traumatize you) NEVER DIEEEEE
i lowk think ivan is still alive just bcuz at the beginning with the guards it looks like the one is checking his pulse to make sure he’s alive but idk 💔💔
We are losing it 🥲
hahahah it's okay i didn't want to smile today anyway
"To be continued" please don't do this to me 💔
Stayed up until 5 am for this🫶
😭💔
Comic of dread and despair
TY FOR SAVING ME 😭😭😭 I HAVE THE ABSOLUTE WORST DAY AHEAD OF ME
but ouchies 💔💔
lots of translating mistakes im already seeing.. yikesss..
alnst production team thank you for providing us content we all appreciate you but please hire a better translator
I CANT DO THIS ALIEN STAGE SHIT ANYMORE
Hi best friends forever
I'M NOT GONNA GIVE UP ON EVERYONE'S SOULS IVAN IS ALIVE 🙏🙏
No spirit no death 😂🤣 tills just seeing his imagination cause ivan would never say that to him
IT’S TOO EARLY FOR THIS MY HEART’S NOT READY
MY SHAYLAAAAAA 😢😭💔🥀
YESSSS THANK YOU LORD
we waited 2h and 40 minutes for this
ivan i miss u everyday
OOOUGH IT HURTS 💔💔
FINALLY
OOOH THIS IS AMAZING.
OH MY GODD
THANK YOUUU
WAIT so does that mean my glorious king Till can still talk? IM SO HAPPY HE STILL HAS A VOICE CAUSE HE GENUINELY LOVED SINGING
FIBALLT OMGG HEHEHEHA
ohmygoddddd
YESSSS
Yeah. Time to be traumatized in my language 🙃
i got discharged from the asylum cause this actually exists thank you vivinos
ivan is alive ivan is alive ivan isalive ivanisalive ivanisaliveivanisa........
LETS GOOOOOO
😢
IT DROPPED
FIANLLY
FINALLYUDHDHDJSJ
NOW I AM GOING TO SOB ALL OVER AGAIN BUT YAYY ENGLISH SUBTITLES….!! 😭💔💔
WHO CHEERED
Omg
thank you! i will cry now!
YESSS
WHAG
This is making me depressed please no no no no no whyyyyy why, ugh just bring him back I can't take another week of this torture 😢
this might just be my LAST friday 💔💔
YESSS GAWD
LETS GO
Finally AAAAA
i’m sick
its there😭💔😭😭😭
OHMYGOD THIS IS SO SAD AGGHHH ivan please be alive somehow
IVAN IS ALIVE!!!
He's aliveeees
SCREAMING CRYING
I sat there for over an hour and did a whole translation for nothing 💔 (at least it’s finally outtt)
Dw i did the same thing even tho i knew the eng was gonna come out in a bit TT
IT'S HERE
I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS
