S3E29.5: The People's Joker

Penguin is a role model for cis allies.

I never wore a black shirt with a skinny white tie. My tie was silver. Therefore, clearly--

One of the first lines of the movie is an absolute banger: (paraphrased) woke bruce Wayne has fucked everything up, where is batman

I had the opportunity to see this movie at my local film festival when it was fresh, but my mom was in town and wanted to see stuff at that festival with me. Just being a semi-closeted trans woman seeing a trans movie with my mom felt like a no-go at the time, but if I showed her this specific movie I think I would have gotten disowned that night.

I'm relistening to your ep after seeing it yesterday, anyone who's close to London, the Prince Charles Cinema, which is objectively the best indie cinema in London, are showing it three more times in March, go see it!

Finally watched the movie after listening to the episode twice. Got a copy from my library (shout out to how awesome libraries are). Fantastic movie.

“Doesn’t remember much of his life” hits me So it’s not just me, huh

This episode really hits hard after these last two weeks of hell news. It definitely makes me feel less alone. I'm going to go color.

I DEEPLY appreciate that Devon has heard of Vampire: The Masquerade and jumped in with that bit. :3

This was a really fun episode! 1:10:33 good luck with that screenplay on the go.

i still get surprised when people recognize me sometimes, because it feels like i should look like a completely unrecognizable generic mii. Abigails part about feeling like you should be completely invisible to dogs hit

Goon / Guy you love to see: Bob Odenkirk was a goon in this

In regards to the specific genre the crew talked about here, I submit Celeste for consideration as a video game example

Thank YOU KJB for doing really really good podcasting that’s worth paying money for.

Automatic doors never open for me.

Best way to make money in Podcasting...butter up your audience in the first couple minutes of every episode. Maybe I should up my membership...tell me again how handsome I am.

November as M, Devon as the bombshell zaddy, and Abigail as Bond.

It's really funny to me that this movie has closeted gay Batman, because when I watched The Batman for the first time, all I could see was a massive Trans Fem egg, performing masculinity so hard you could feel the pain radiating off the screen.

Get Vera Drew on board for the Gorilla remake, and also your remake of Tony Macaroni's wild adventure

THE PEOPLES JAMES BOND

"You can be a 'The Prince' type of trans person"- NO IM NOT WHO TOLD YOU THAT

Do Stress Positions it’s so good. And it’s a third type of trans fem experience

I'm currently working on the sequel to the "media about being in the closet and also a love letter to childhood media" That being "The transbian rom com about just being newly out of the closet and also a love letter to the media you fell in love with as you came out (in my case cheesy mooshy Chinese and Korean romantic dramatic comedies)"

Parts of this really hit me because I've spent the entire last week thinking about how I'm not a real person and specifically how I'll never be able to edit my book into something worth reading because of that

Naturally, the thing I latched onto was the whole "energy to create more art bit," sigh, paraphrased from memory. At times like this, I try to remember the adage, "It's more important that the work exist than for it be any good." In other words, finish that draft and then worry if it is any good, existing being the single most important part. I had a teacher who used to say, "Finish the shit draft. That's what it's there for, to be shit," paraphrased from 30ish year old memory.

The “I’ve never been happy” line I felt like was referencing the “I’ve never been happier” meme (the vibe of which is I think how a lot of cis people unconsciously view trans people)

Long live the chaos podcast

So what’s the verdict on the teen formal fit of black shirt and TEAL skinny tie, cuz that was mine 🧐

Love that Abby shared this deeply personal and moving moment from her life and my brain is stuck on the thought "huh, dogs can't see eggs"

I think when you have people look at something like Parasite or Squid Game and so willfully ignore the thinnest veneer of metaphor to see what they want, it's nice for a movie to look at the camera and say: "it's about this. Fuck you"

I don’t know if it’s all the mother stuff throughout the film but the entire Mx. mxyzptlk bit made me SOB on the way to work out of NOWHERE I didn’t think I needed to see this film but fuck!

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to view this film in Australia?

FWIW, I decided to rewatch Speed Racer today and the greenscreen in that is far more jarring than the greenscreen in The People's Joker

I drove 2 hours to see this movie in the nearest theater that was showing it back in May and it was completely worth it

Haven’t finished this but you mentioned Boys Weekend which I just read completely by coincidence since my comics professor brought it to class. Just think that’s a cool coincidence

The “singing over the line ‘I’m a midnight toker’ hits hard cuz my dad used to sing me “The Boxer” all the time and I didn’t know the line is “the whores on 7th avenue” until my 20s cuz he always sang “the girls” over it.

I have found this film and plan to watch it asap. intensely relate to both the feelings of unpersonhood even post transition (I'm coming up on a decade this year!) and many other things. I fear I too am in this movie. relatedly: I have definitely legally obtained versions of the 2nd and 3rd Diabolik films that I think have subtitles? I haven't watched them yet but It's Out There if you are willing to use extremely legal means.

Admittedly I did do the black shirt fit, but I skipped the tie because I was already transgending at that point

November dead naming herself hit me like a claymore, damn near crashed my work van.

What's the crisis roundtable podcast? Anybody figure it out? I'm interested in giving that a peep Jk I found it: https://deepcast.fm/episode/the-state-of-podcasting-roundtable-oct-2024

I saw this in a packed theater of trans people shortly after I came out to myself but was still closeted to the rest of the world and I cried my eyes out after. It vocalized so much of my childhood that I didn't know how to express. I just recently came out to my mom and almost want to send her this to watch and understand what I went through, but, uhhhhh. No. That's not a good idea! I Saw the TV Glow also had an impact on me, but not nearly to the extent that this movie has. Chock another one up for team People's Joker girlies

churning out podcasts at the kill james bond factory, a crisis comes along on the belt, "guess we doin crises now"

November: make art Me: instructions unclear, I made a poem comparing my deadname to a candle

As an American, Saturday Night Live is easily not the peak of comedy, the cool kids who still watch late night TV watch conan

FINE, I FUCKING WILL!

Oh HELL yes!

that estrogen that works instantly bit really did hit a little close to home

Always love you all and ill follow till the end of the earth but FUCK ME THOSE BLEEPS WERE LOUD.

I am having some uhh rumblings given these last two films. I am generally pretty lost in terms of self-actualization and feeling confident in who I am…Some of the details that I have connected to when hearing these two movies have lit up old memories I forgot I had. I remember fixating on the idea that my mother had a later miscarriage right before being pregnant with me, and that if I were a girl, they would have named me Alice. When my depression felt the worst in high school I would imagine Alice being born instead so that I could stop existing. There’s obviously a LOT more (including mostly being interested in lesbian porn when I first found masturbating) but none of this quite feels like a massive alignment towards a new understanding. It feels more like “huh…wonder what this is about?” What should I like do about this? I am in a seven year relationship with someone and even though I think they would take it well I feel so scared of engaging with these feelings. It also might just be that I feel lacking in self-understanding, and I really admire the hosts and trans people I know for their strong sense of self, and so I think to myself well THEY certainly know who they are—why not try what they did?

As someone from inside the corporate podcasting industry there's a sort of dual crisis: a metrics crisis and an extraction crisis. The metrics crisis is that all of the metrics are terrible and how they're calculated and recorded change constantly and it's only getting worse. The trend right now is that most podcasts with a few exceptions (like the one I work on weirdly enough) are hemorrhaging downloads and it's not really clear why. This has spooked the ad people and they're pulling back and that's hurting a lot of people but all of that would be ok except the larger problem with corporate podcasts it that all of the ad money is being pumped into the hideously unprofitable tech-media companies which don't make any money, don't know how to make any money, and probably structurally can't make any money. So all of the ad money flows up to these corporate jackasses and since that's the main revenue stream for the shows and the podcasters don't control it, you have to take the scraps they give or you the ones you're able to claw out of them with a union. Meanwhile that money either gets spent on supporting the other sectors of the company that can't make any money, buying your CEO a new yacht, or gets spent on a $100 million celebrity podcast that no one will listen to like the fucking Megan Merkle one which she didn't even fucking do, her producers had to do the interviews themselves and then she recorded the interviewer's lines later to dub over to make it seem like she did it. So people with profitable shows are just getting screwed as management panics over the Adpocalypse and fires everyone. Meanwhile the company literally owns your name which makes it extremely difficult for anyone who's not already huge to go independent even if you could get out of the non-compete clauses. The corporate ghouls, desperate for revenue to cover for the fact that they don't know how to make any money, are effectively running an entire extremely profitable industry into the ground in order to divert the profits into their pockets, it's all just unbelievably grim. Now realizing this is an entire wall of text lol but someone has to know before they get us all.

As someone who did stand-up on and off for seven years: YEP CAN CONFIRM

Clearly y'all are just built different

Checking in as a secret third thing listener

GCPD is the organisation JKR wants to run. EDIT: also booo! Glasgow is sold out 😢

Seeing this in a packed house at the Music Box in Chicago was an all time great theatrical experience. Vera Drew was there and her opening statement before film was just an acapella rendition of a Pink Floyd song. I recommend going through her instagram and seeing all the outfits she wore during the tour. At my showing she had a fur pillbox hat, eyeball earrings, gold fishnet top, and crocs.

Lorne Michaels apparently the inspiration for Dr. Evil’s mannerisms. Otherwise yeah he’s just some sort of Canadian Melkor whose presence defiles the American Saturday.

Good episode but Nova's bleeps are so much louder the the rest of the episode it almost knocked me out of my chair.

Listening to the opening: "RIP to your podcast, but I'm built different." I'm so glad the three of you are holding the fort with KJB! :)

I've been waiting for this since they first started teasing it! Today is a good day for slop! Tonight we dine well hogs!