Major EA Bug Fixes + Mod Updates
Edit: If you've already downloaded the update for Deeper Social Autonomy, please redownload.
⚠️ PSA: EA broke romance autonomy.
If you’ve noticed your Sims are no longer autonomously using non-modded romantic interactions, here’s why: EA added new autonomy tests to ALL romance interactions that require Sims to be in-laws or step-siblings in order to autonomously use them. 😭
If you own Royalty & Legacy, it’s even worse. There’s a second autonomy test that requires Sims to be secret lovers. Combined with the in-law/step-sibling requirement, romance autonomy will essentially never fire for 99% of Sims.
I’ve created an all-in-one fix for these issues and the ones that still haven't been fixed for Adventure Awaits. The fix is included in my Deeper Social Autonomy mod, but if you don’t use it, you can grab the standalone fix here.
Please spread the word about this fix so everyone can get their romance autonomy back!
Now, onto my mod updates…
✨ Deeper Social Autonomy
I’ve extensively refactored DSA’s autonomy tests. The core functionality is still intact, but it now runs at a significantly lower performance cost. If you ever experienced interaction lag with this mod, this update eliminates it.
I’ve also restructured the mod. It’s now organized into three folders: Modules, Extras, and Social Reach. All files inside these folders function independently. The only file required for the mod to run is tyjokr_DSA_MAIN_REQUIRED. Everything else is optional.
tyjokr_EABugFixes_BorkedSocialAutonomy is the bug fix mentioned above and is now bundled with DSA. I strongly recommend keeping it installed, as social autonomy will not function properly without it.
tyjokr_DSA_Modules contains the core overhauls for each category of social interaction.
tyjokr_DSA_IntroductionsAndHugs is now just tyjokr_DSA_Introductions the hugs functionality has been integrated into tyjokr_DSA_Friendly.
tyjokr_DSA_SocialReach includes what were previously the ExtraTests add-ons. These files focus exclusively on distance-based autonomy, meaning how far away a Sim’s target is before they decide to socialize.
tyjokr_DSA_Extras contains additional features that enhance the Deeper Social Autonomy experience. There are new files included that have been branched off from the core overhauls to provide more choice. The new files are as follows:
tyjokr_DSA_DiscourageRomanceIfRejected reduces repeated romantic attempts after a Sim’s advances have been rejected. If a Sim gets turned down, they’re far less likely to immediately try again.
tyjokr_DSA_DrunkenRomance adds a separate autonomy branch for Sims who are mind-controlled via Vampire Powers, drunk on juice or nectar, or drunk or high using Basemental Drinks or Drugs. This branch is intentionally looser overall. The key difference is that Sims will no longer factor in the other Sim’s gender preference when deciding to autonomously pursue romance.
tyjokr_DSA_MeanLimiter limits the amount of mean interactions a Sim can perform with another. The more they dislike one another, the more mean interactions that can be performed in a row without a cooling off period.
tyjokr_DSA_ReduceSocialDistractions is the only truly new addition to DSA. This file encourages Sims to stay put while relaxing on beds, hot tubs, pools, romantic blankets, couches, and similar objects. Unlike other “less musical chairs” style mods, this does not force Sims to remain seated. Instead, it steers them via autonomy tests to socialize with other Sims who are sharing the same posture.
A Sim relaxing in a hot tub will not jump out just to flirt with someone across the lot. They’ll look to socialize with Sims already in the hot tub.
Sims who are sleeping, showering, meditating, or using the toilet are far less likely to be targeted by autonomy. This reduces the number of interactions that briefly appear in the queue, then immediately disappear.
Standing Sims can still approach sitting Sims and pull them into conversations. However, the seated Sim will not be the one initiating it, which helps reduce unnecessary interruptions.
There is also a small window of time that allows Sims to get up and initiate conversations with partners, family members, friends, and lovers if they have not seen them in several hours.
Fix for Sims not telling jokes or singing karaoke properly.
Other miscellaneous tuning adjustments.
✨ Social Variety
Updated to prevent instances where interactions modified by the mod could briefly appear in the queue, then immediately disappear.
Sensible Autonomy
Molding Clay and using the Future Cube is now restricted from autonomously firing on certain lots (bars, clubs, lounges, etc) and during parties unless an active club rule encourages it.
Sims with the Indoorsy lifestyle will be less likely to Complain about [Weather] unless they've left the house.
Vampires with total sun resistance will no longer autonomously Complain About Sunlight.
Sensible Interactions
Now only Vampires without total sun resistance and Sims with certain traits (Gloomy, Macabre, etc) can Complain about Sunny Weather.
Sims can now only Complain about Cloudy Weather when it is daytime.
Vampires can now only Lecture about Sunlight to other Vampires who don't have total sun resistance.
✨ Avoid Me
Now if you choose to Avoid Indefinitely a Sim that your Sim is in a conversation with, the conversation will end.
Minor performance optimizations.
✨ Send Text Overhaul
Small adjustment to how romantic relationships are evaluated to make the check more foolproof.
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I may have a few more small updates for other mods coming toward the end of the week, but nothing critical. All of my mods remain compatible with the most recent patches.
If you tried Deeper Social Autonomy in the past and uninstalled it because you ran into issues, I encourage you to give it another shot with the included EA Bug Fix. Most of the problems I previously believed were caused by my mod, and spent time troubleshooting with others through shared save files, turned out to be EA bugs all along 🤦
Hopefully, EA fixes more than they break over the next few months.
Comments (30)
I recently did a conflict check using twisted mexi’s mod and the borked social mod is showing as conflicting with Sims4me mod lovestruck fix . Should that mod be removed?
This mod was suggested to me as a fix for 2 sims who have amazing compatibility, attraction, and have been married but regularly lose all friendship and romance points (suddenly usually) and go into solid red bars for both levels. It's made this set of sims unplayable. I am going to try your mod and see how it goes. Thank you for your efforts in fixing broken things EA seems to miss.
My sims also used to sometimes autonomously cuddle with their partner while sleeping and they don't do this any more. Is that also something that was broken by the patch? Thank you for your hard work!
I think EA removed it from the game for some reason
Я правильно поняла, что в игре без модов автоматические романтические (сексуальные) действия теперь возможны только между родственниками? Вечный инцест?
Да
I can't play this game without your mods.
You are a god send! I hope both sides of your pillow are cold tonight :)
I've just found the DSA mod, and I'm wondering if it will help fix an issue i'm having. I'm experiencing an issue where sims auto flirt with EVERYONE. Sims are constantly flirting and cheating on partners, I've had to use MCCC to disable auto flirting which I didn't want to have to do. Will DSA help with/fix that?
It does! The included EA bug fix will help a ton. But the mod also makes romance autonomy more sensible and not as chaotic.
ty for including the deets of the updates.
Thank you so much<333
Thank you so so much for the bugfix! Do you know pls if DSA_DrunkenRomance would conflict with any other Vampire-related mods? Thinking about SonozakiSisters' Deadly Vampire Bites first of all.
No conflicts!
Thank you so much🫶
Yay, I'm re-downloading! :)
Thank you SO much for the fix and all you do! <3
Thank you so much! Is there a bug report on the forum we can upvote?
Nevermind, I found it! Thanks again! https://forums.ea.com/idea/the-sims-4-bug-reports-en/sims-only-do-limited-romantic-interactions-autonomously/13190218
Thank you for these mods, they're very useful.
A god send fr, I just thought my sims is going through something LOL
Will Social Variety conflict with mods that change Mold Clay autonomy, or can they co-exist? Like https://www.curseforge.com/sims4/mods/no-clay-for-every-sim
They can co-exist!
Thank you so much!! 😍
Thanks for your essential mods, and for the detailed explanation in this post!
Your mods always make the game so much better. Thank you for your hard work, and I hope you have a wonderful life!
Thank you very much!
The Goat! Thank you
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa niceeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Thank you, you're a life saver.
