Fireside Chat for WWW ep10 "Of the Reaching Green"

The discussion of imagination here is really interesting. For me, when listening to something or reading it—anything that isn't me actually fully imagining everything and everyone wholesale—I don't actually see anything. Imagining is more somatic and mental for me than visual, unless it's things like Brennan's description of Naram where it's very detailed, deliberate, minute yet not constraining, and immense. Then I try to visualize it, but that's always very active for me. And I *do* require everything be described—my imagination is very much like video games where anything not mentioned and actively present/ahead is not loaded. Sorry for the necropost, but I just found the discussion very interesting.

42:56 "What's the word for the dopamine of a cool thing mingled with the horror of it?" My mind goes to jouissance, but I think that's a little more extreme than what Aabria's talking about

Estonia mentioned!! 🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪

So ferocious feel the "pitbull wife" energy that im even more in love with Orima

Midnight Circus mention!! <3

OMG Aabria please guest DM for Dungeons & Daddies already!

I don't think my wife and I have "sweetest man and bulldog" energy, but I know we at least have "pretty good man trying his best and semi-feral goblin" energy.

Love the Night Circus shout-out. Such a good book.

After mentoring Ghost here I'm so upset she got so ignored. Suvi was in the place to mention her and get her in and she just didn't. I hope Ghost wasn't turned away. That would be so sad.

Did this woman Reference Ron Stampler from Dungeons and Daddies?

A rosemary pine candle that smells like Ersulon would be great WBN merch. 😊

I also imagine very richly… and I do appreciate the details of this storytelling. I think for me, audio is perfect for all of this.

Hahaha I actually lived in Ukraine, for a short time, near there, and there were the most wonderful elder folk in the forest of Zhytomyr. That comment instantly brought those scenes up in my mind.

People with good visual imaginations are such a mindfuck for me 😅 I'm sitting here listening and just thinking "your mind does *what* now?" I've got some images, but they're real vague. It's more sounds, words and concepts/feelings. I feel like it's a bit of an obstacle when I'm trying to set a scene actually, I feel like I have a harder time giving good descriptions. Oh well!

Dang, that reframing of what a victory might or might not look like in different challenges and especially with different stakes? That's gonna stay with me, that's cool to think about

Today I begin WAITING for the campaign in which Aabria pretends to be an old lady to get past the guards and I will feel confident it is because of this conversation.

TAMING OF THE SHRUB I SCREAMED

The in-person energy is so good! Contemplating the connection between leadership and power and how, while they are not the same, how individuals react to and use them is similar and very telling. Wonderful conversation!!

Suvi's pregnant woman scene was sooo hilarious, imagining she played an old woman instead is peak comedy

I literally cried twice during Ame and Ersulons conversation at the shrine with the spirit. It moved me so much. Taylor the sound and music was so beautiful alongside the emotions of these characters.

This episode in particular makes me long for the map release!

Where is the episode for Of the Reaching Green? I can't find it on patreon at all

"the witch that stepped up" 🤣😂 Aabria have you listened to dungeons and daddies? Campaign 1 has the "dad that stepped up" joke so much.

erika omg i almost dropped my phone when you said the night circus. truly one of my favorite books of all time and like a real actual dream of a ttrpg setting. can you imagine!!!!!

that fox is gonna escape samsara for sure

The energy of this fireside chat is amazing, being in person means that it feels even more like a casual chat and Brennan not feeling like he has to keep it on the rails combined with the energy of the others never fails to brighten my day

I just wanted to thank you for show. Now I don't merely accept or tolerate Tuesdays, I anticipate every one. Thank you

I'm sorry, the transcripts?101/10. LOL {Taylor does NOT put laser sounds in} The best ever.

They answered my question! And it spawned a bunch of additional conversation! I am truly blessed. Thank you. ❤

How does Lou keep finding these guests?? Dan Choyne is so intense and not even the most confrontational of the guests

"Frisson" is the word you are thinking of, Aabria!

man I was literally miming with my hands the "x axis" idea right before Brennan said it, but as the "y axis" instead. Ersulon is simply to the left of Suvi and Ame's up/down sliding scale

Brennan's description of "Great" spirits being big & having a theme is EXACTLY what Molly Ostertag's description of what makes a God, in her episode of Adventuring Academy

I really liked Brennan’s metaphors about the shipwrecked guy seeing his country’s flags. But I also feel like Eursulon trying to talk to Orima was like if Chelsea Clinton just called up Putin rn and was like “hey world leader to world leader I need some stuff from you”.

"The fox is so well therapized" is a line that will live in my brain forever

It’s interesting to hear Dan Choyne bring up Brennan describing scent. I’ve definitely been thinking lately of what kind of perfume/cologne I associate with each character. Like Eursulon is a fougère or chypre in my head, Suvi is a modern ozone/metallic synthetic with maybe some cold orris thrown in, and Ame is a gourmand or maybe a good amber.

I feel like Suvi is on "mute" because she's the only one there without a connection to the spiritual world. It's not that she's been muted, it's literally that the spirit can't hear her.

Rest in power Mr. Choyne

Is it just me, or was this episode really quiet?

Y’know? Listening to this made me realise I imagine everything like they’re comic panels. I’m not very good at imagining the movement but I can see the thing

Erin Morgenstern is one of my favorites! I was thinking it was Black Alchemy or Phoenix Alchemy or something who did the scents, but after digging through her Instagram, it's Black Phoenix Alchemy Labs.

I do wish the name of the creatures wasn't revealed here, I want to learn the name in the context of the show!

Honest to god, I picture the fox as Homer's space coyote.

love the erin morgenstern deep lore ,i loved the night circus too - i remember so many of the scenes so vividly, her brain for setpieces and descriptions is so incredible

Aabriq a dungeons and daddies ron stampler stan?

It makes so much sense that smell gives folks such a visceral reaction, since it's the sense most closely linked with memory. I would also say it's one of the only senses I don't have in dreams, so it feels extra grounding and physical to hear it described!

Is this episode quiet for anyone else?

I would LOVE a reading list of the books Brennan and co. read in the process of creating this world!!

Erika's laugh is so contagious! It brings me so much joy.

Every time I play Oregon Wizard Trail I die of wyzentery.

I’m currently on the hunt to find the scent that matches with the perfect memory. It’s hard y’all! Idk how Disney does it so well!

I have to say, I'm really upset with Brennan. Yes Dan Choyne was acting threatening but I would still never expect Brennan to kill a man in cold blood like that. Praying for Dan's family.

as an ND person - my brain works a little left of center on a good day, and it's actually really difficult for me to picture a scene *only* visually bc that's just not the sense that my memory relies on the most - so the tendency of the whole cast to describe things using scent and texture is one of the reasons that I can engage with a purely audio medium like this - so thank you. AND ON THAT NOTE - I know very viscerally Eursulon smells like but even though I know that Ame and Suvi have distinct smells and I can guess them, I would love forever if you could tell me exactly what y'all think they smell like.

#RIPDanChoyne

And now, I will pass away from the answer to my question

So many good lines this fireside chat but I fucking lost it at "The taming of the shrub." 😂

Wizard dysentery Or wysentery, if you will

Truly the best day of my week when these fireside chats come out.

Politely but with a frenzied energy: When are these babies going to level? They are in SUCH deep ocean and they don't even have floaty wings. My anxious heart is panicked for these magical children every session, lol.

You five are an amazing team, I love this podcast and look forward to another 140 episodes!

The limit does not exist 🤣

Keeping with the Ghibli vibes, Ame's interactions with Orima remind me of the scenes in Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind when Nausicaa gets her animal companion and she let's it bite her/ the scene where Master Yupa let's her stab him to calm her down; Ame's strongest power is compassion and it absolutely slaps

Oh to have a bulldog wife

Ahoo hoo! Absolute yes to Erika's mention of 'The Night Circus' by Erin Morgenstern, her novels still take first place for her use of descriptive writing. So good!

Also love Lou's salt about Lamry

Is this ep much quieter than the rest for anyone else?

Love Brennan sticking up for Ame

:D

I hope Lou is in this one!

'Fix it in post' is, of coursed, not fixed in post.

Crackle crackle baby. Let's get at it!

I should be sleeping (hehehehe no)

And its a Woohoo from me.