Target Audience Begins Voyager | Cinematic Trailer
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Great reaction, but it seemed like entire scenes were reordered between the DVD release you were watching, and the UK paramount+ release. Not just that it didnt sync up, but entire scenes in different places. Very odd! Great reaction though, and looking forward to more Voyager!
As eye rolling as Trek was sometimes with political correctness, it was nice seeing them do the opposite in this pilot with Janeway not liking to be called sir ( because she’s not a man ) ma’am is “ok” , but she prefers captain!
Oh yeah and great trailer too !!!
Nice trailer. DS9 and VOY complement each other well. Good you are watching both at the same time. If TOS is the grandpa and TNG is the dad then DS9 is the older brother and VOY is the younger sister. Not sure which one you will like better but I think it is perfectly okay for everyone to have their favorites. Its all subjective. No need to fan war over this stuff.
AWESOME trailer! Really captures the hype I had for Voyager when I watched the pilot the first time!
Everyone a spoiler is ANYTHING that wouldn’t have been known when Voyaher first aired
Not a spoiler! Kate Mulgrew was a mediocre actress before Voyager, lol.
I’m excited. There’s a fair amount of episodes in voyager that I tend to skip over on rewatches in my rush to get to the episodes I like the most so I’m looking forward to getting a fresh look at some I probably only saw once 🤩
Let's fucking go!!
You make the premier seem watchable! Voyager has some amazingly great episodes but IMHO this isn't one of them.
Yeah a couple crap seasons but I want to see how they react to realizing they are trapped voyaging home which is why it's voyager.
It just occurred to me that this episode is a lot like lower decks in that all these characters are kind of nobodys in starfleet and we get a whole show focused on them
Fun fact. The producers liked Robert Duncan McNeil's performance so much in The First Duty, they wanted him to reprise the character in Voyager. However the writers decided that what LoCarno did was so egrigious and irredeemable that they felt there was no way in hell he would ever be allowed back in starfleet. So they created a similar role for McNeil in Tom Paris.
I heard that they liked him so much they wanted someone like him. So why not him? But the character of Nick would have meant royalties to the writer of First Duty.
TNG, Voyager & Enterprise are my Favorite. I appreciate the original series but never connected to it, it was my mom's Star Trek. I do love the movies though(mostly😄) as for Deep Space Nine, I love the characters but the tone was always too dark to have that same Star Trek "Comfort" feel. Plus the long form storytelling makes it harder to enjoy random episodes on rewatch. Still a fantastic series, just not my favorite. That being said, I think you'll enjoy Voyager, especially once you get a little ways in to the series.
You'll see a lot of comparisons made between DS9 and Voyager. DS9 definitely garners more praise generally but it's not overwhelmingly higher rated as a whole. On IMDB, DS9 has an 8.1 and Voyager 7.9. That's practically a tie. I think it's more that DS9's highs are just a little bit higher than Voyager's highs rather than it is an indication of the average quality between the two shows. Both are great.
The lowest low is in voyager too though. Lol
Seasons 1 & 2 definitely have their rough spots like those seasons in TNG did, but there are some great episodes as well IMO.
Amazing trailers guys but would be epic if after "The Next Chapter, for Target Audience" you spliced in your best reactions shots from each Star Trek series , TOS to DS9
Awesome trailer! So excited for this show!
The question. Does he ever stop calling her Ma'am? Oh. And how many times did you guys cheer at getting your requests fulfilled in the opener for the next series :D
Yes sir, Ma'am sir. (like Radar in M*A*S*H)
Brilliant trailer, bit of a rough series but there are some really good episodes once it’s gets going. I was never the biggest fan of the first 2 seasons but picks up after that .
I am interested to see what you guys think about this series. Ive tried to do a couple rewatches in the past without much success. Hopefully this will change all that!! Great trailer
I connected so well with the TNG crew, much less so with DS9 and Voyager. That's really what it comes down to.
Your use of music from the opera “Don Giovani” is way more appropriate than you know! 😊
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Awesome trailer guys! I was already looking forward to it but now i'm pumped!
My take on VOY pilot: Good concept BUT blowing up the Array- B'Elanna was right- who the F was she to keep everyone from returning. They SHOULD have had the Array pull in a Cardassian ship too- have a battle between Voyager and The Maquis on one side and the Cardis on the other with the Cardassians blowing up the Array as an F you like Khan setting off the Genesis device. You would then have "street cred" for Janeway being in command of the Maquis without her breaking the Prime Directive etc. It would also show that 70,000 ly away the Cardassian would be at war with the Federation since they think they can get away with it.. ....... Neelix= Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek Kes at age 2 of 9 year lifespan is "barely legal" (2/9) x 80 "rounds up" to 18 and (2/9) of 130, since McCoy and others live to that age, would be around age 29. She looks underage. Is Neelix in the Epstein files? This creeped me out then and still does now... the actor Ethan Phillips playing Neelix is great- he was in the TV series Benson and was the judge in Better Call Saul episode Coushatta where Jimmy gets the whole congregation to try to save Huell. A very good actor with really creepy writing ........ The hillbillies on the farm was weird. The crew skewered like the victims of the real Vlad the Impaler Dracula was edgy for Star Trek. ........... Hello- Water is Hydrogen plus Oxygen- there is hYdrogen in space and they are breathing Oxygen, so if they are Warp capable why can't the Kazon "make water". They look like cyberpunk wannabe Klingons... Nice to see a strong female Captain and engineer in B'Elanna The Holographic Doctor- brilliant way to make a Data like character who is kind of human So A idea, screwed up the array plotline, S tier effects, C level writing
She's the Captain.
While DS9 is by far my favorite Trek series, I have to admit Voyager had the better pilot. It was better at getting you excited for the journey. I appreciated Emissary a lot more after seeing how DS9 played out, but I still remember it being a little confusing on the first watch. Caretaker was just a better introduction to the show for a first time viewer.
I like Voyager, each month I'd buy two new episodes on VHS at £12.99 a tape. A whole season was pretty expensive back then. I do still prefer DS9 overall, but don't let anyone tell you Voyager is bad because there are times when its up there with the best of any Trek. I think overall the guys will love it but it won't end up being their favourite.
I grew up watching this show more than any of the others and always loved it. The best thing about it is probably its variety due to its setting.
Ds9 fanboys are very tiring in these comments and seem determined to negatively bias you against this show for some reason, i wasn't in the comments of emissary going on about how uninteresting and disappointing I found ds9 to end up being, yet so many feel the need to do that about voyager, mostly it seems from people who haven't even tried watching the show since the 90s, give it a rest would you? Btw Kate mulgrew is far and away a much better actor than Avery brooks... BY FAR
See my comment above as a DS9 fanboy who thought Emissary was crappy and this pilot was great until it broke down but still was the best pilot
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getting pretty good at these trailers
Josh was "getting good at these trailers" by his second or third one. Now they're consistently exceptional... except when he used "The Final Countdown" as background music. That needed a Mulligan
Hey guys, welcome to the Delta. If you find time for it, you might want to check out a good, old school Kathryn Hepburn movie like The African Queen, Lion in Winter, or Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Kate Mulgrew has a Very similar vibe.
Would you two guys be interested in Ai HD upscales of Voyager? I have them for both DS9 and Voyager. They're not overdone just enough to make them watchable versus the original DVD quality. Up to you, just wanted to offer, if you wanted it we could figure out a way to get them to you and I do believe they sync with the DVD.
I'd bet my beet farm that they would not want this on a first time watch. They are going for the authentic experience we all had. They would not risk something being changed too much. On a rewatch they might be down... but that is a long time from now.
I've been saving this to share with the guys until after they've seen the Voyager pilot. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ofl-We5wDQEzvMiyVGy_wM8KSKelCCBx/view?usp=sharing
🖖 Mr. Paris, set a course... for home. That's the right line!
Oh Wow !! I might actually be looking forward to this more than the Artemis II Launch ! ;p
You see, on paper the premise is good, but... well, let's give you a few seasons and see what your thoughts are. It's a hot topic in our household. My wife loves this series, second only to TNG for her (she's not a fan of DS9 - divorce territory lolz). Me, (out of the 80s/90s series) it's third (DS9. TNG, VOY). There are some great episodes and storylines though. That said, I look forward to watching along with you two and seeing if you can give me a fresh perspective and appreciation. It has been a while since I've watched it.
In our household my wife has DS9 = VOY > ENT> TNG >>TOS since she thinks the 1960s women were portrayed as bimbos in short skirts.She loves the female captain and thinks DS9 had best writing and acting. I rate DS9> ENT>TNG>VOY>TOS, i HATE the WRITING on Voyager, we both like ENT for reasons to be divulged later, I think DS9 has the best writing in all of Trek matched by actors to pull it off
I can't wait for you to get to the end of Voyager so we can discuss this series as a whole.
Neelix…remember that name. Actually, don’t…
"Didn't they warn you about Ferengi at the academy?" Tom and Harry is one of the best things about the show, I really hope you enjoy it. It has its ups and downs like any other Trek, but I think overall its a fun story and Janeway is a great captain, worthy to stand with Kirk, Picard, and Sisko.
You may hear people say" The third season is where *this* show gets good" on every Trek show since The Next Generation, but I think THIS is where Star Trek franchise finally starts getting good... 😉🖖 It's the third iteration of a live-action Trek show, debuting on Paramount's brand-new UPN channel in it's very own premiere primetime slot. The passing of the baton from TOS to TNG in Generations, both DS9 & VOY are in full swing... the best is yet to come!
I'm more in the, "In the fourth season this show becomes serviceable!" camp, but like others still looking forward to see what the guys think.
Tom Paris is probably going to the biggest anti-pop. Especially after Ensign Sito was brought back, it's very confusing to bring back another actor from that episode to play essentially the same character with some tweaks.
In my head cannon, it's the same character. He just changed his name at one point because he was sick of being known as "that admiral's son." Do you think someone's mom actually named their kid "Snoop Dog?"
The voyager of 70,000 light years, begins with a single episode. I think you're going to love this show (after the obligatory 2 seasons at the start that are terrible --- just kidding :) )
Fantastic trailer. Way better than what was done when it first came out. Hollywood is calling you Josh!
Another banger of a trailer. You guys already know so much more than you did a few days ago. I’m super excited for this jour… voyage.
"My friends, we've come home..."
Did you get any rest? Take it easy, Josh😴🛌
Do I ever?
Not gonna lie, this trailer goes hard. Ironic, because it's making Voyager seem way more epic than it is! xD
O captain my captain!
I was going to comment this exactly 🖖
Are there any pre-voyager discussions coming up like you did for ds9? Blind-listen to the intro etc?
Yes
Maybe this is controversial but, of the original Treks, I think Voyager has the best pilot. It's really well done as an introduction to the characters and story.
Personally, I think Enterprise has the best Pilot. Everyone says DS9 does, and Emissary is good. Maybe it's because I remembe distinctly watching Enterprises' pilot when it first aired.
Good cast, good pilot episode. Probably my least favorite of the Berman-era Star Trek shows, but I'll try and give it a go with the TA.
Seriously, enough teasing!!! Can't wait to start this with you guys, it's gonna be awesome.
I like what you did at 1:21 with hits. I see you.
This is better than the actual trailer, no lie.
Really happy to enter the Phase where we switch between DS9 and Voyager. I love DS9, but too much treats all the Time is not good for your Stomache. ^^
I'm pretty sure you'll like Voyager. May you have an exciting journey!
Well, my days of not really caring for Voyager are certainly coming to a middle.
My loathing for the character of Neelix is fathomless, he is an awful, awful character. I have no issues with Ethan Phillips acting, or as an actor though. And Kes was so bland she made Styrofoam look appealing.
Is Alex going to have a new Mommy?
One of the best theme songs in the franchise
True. second best. the best is yet to come. :)
Well. Guys. If your expectations are similar to the ones you had for seasons 1 and 2 of TNG and DS9... you shouldn't be disappointed. Just my opinion... but i think they rummaged through the tossed story options of the previous Treks, and did the best they could. In any case, you guys seem to love the stuff the fans have low opinions about so we'll see.
But Voyager is like a season 1 or 2 for most of its run. Plus not all the main cast are likeable.
I was already excited. Stop it you guys 😂
Maybe the most epic trailer so far? Looks damned good.
Interested to follow you guys along on this one. Of all the series, Voyager was the one that held my interest the least. It's been a number of years since my last watch, let's see how it goes when going along the Voyage with you guys.
Same
No spoilers needed please, but how did they know the direction to go???
Apple Maps
You should never name a ship after an abstract concept unless you want to tempt fate.
A voyage they most certainly will get. :)
We're going home gents... very far away.
Get ready for a wild ride. This was the Trek that I first watched as it aired in the mid-late 90's, every week along with my mother. Its got a special place in my heart (and hers) for that reason.
Can’t wait
DS9 is the best Trek. Voyager is the most fun.
Can I just sleep for 6 days and wake up on the 9th to watch this? Ok thanks 😂