PATRON TAKES - TNG S7E6
TAKES WILL BE READ 8/4
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I really like this episode. It's so "out there" that it manages to actually play with Data's humanity in a novel and non-cliché way. And Data gets to be Scary Data™, which is always fun. This is definitely one of the better S7 episodes. "A" tier for me!
Kill zem... Kill zem all, before its too late.... A very weird story, going from Data's dreams causing problems, to the crew dying from some out of phase creatures. I don't know what it is, but I really like this one.
Very Season 7, but in good ways.
"I will feed him." "Perhaps that will be enough."
Weird…freaking…episode D for Deanna cake
They're trying to be a bit experimental in Season 7 but this one? No thanks. Skippable.
This immediately became one of my favourite TNG episodes for the sheer weirdness of it. Especially that cellular peptide cake. With ~mint frosting~
Yum!
It's always bugged me a little bit that Data consults Freud rather than Jung. Jung is all about dreams, communication with the unconscious, and the realization of the individual. I can only guess that because Freud's work came first and has been so latched on to because of the sexual undertones, that he just has more of a TV shorthand persona. Still, if Data wanted to chat with an historical human psychologist about his dreams, you'd think he'd have dialed up Carl Gustav rather than Sigmund.
Freud is more (in)famous.
Is this the one where Worf and Data eat Troi? I mean- wait. No that's what happens in this episode. Huh. Welcome to season 7!
In all honesty I remember liking this one, haven't seen it in a few years though.
I really liked the surreal nature of this episode Data in his classic method of seeking the best advice chases after Sigmund Freud‘s particular bend of mental healthcare Followed by Deanna’s advice “the next time you wanna talk to somebody talk to me and not Sigmund” I think they could spend some more episodes examining Data‘s dreams, but I particularly like the nightmares as a Halloween episode
A meme worthy episode. And a really good one!
IMHO season 7 is worse than Season 1 in many ways. So many stories in this year have interesting ideas but feel flat in execution. There are a couple gems, but this ain't one!
Ahh, the cellular peptide cake (with mint frosting). Mind bending with a touch of "Shining" vibes. Low B.
"THAT DAMN EPISODE! REACT TO IT, WILL YA?!?"
Ah yes, the episode where Worf eats Dianna. This is NOT my favorite Season 7 episode.
Yo, Data moving into the bed when spot is there is wild! YOU NEVER MOVE THE CAT! Also, why didn’t they just go back to the station they just rolled out of to fix the enterprise ? Also, also…. DATA IS TERRIFYING!
Cool to see a follow up to the Data dreaming subplot introduced in 'Birhtright Part I'.
This is a flawed episode... but it is a guilt pleasure of mine. The true Admiral of inconvenience is back. Then: Nakamura: "Deal with Commander Bruce Maddox." Now: "You coming to this banquet? Need a Tow?"
Philip K. Dick would ask us "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sleep?". Kind of a trippy episode, even more so than Frame of Mind. Not sure how I feel about it, but I do think it's worth a viewing.
My siblings and I will randomly end each other’s statements with, “With mint frosting!” because of this episode. A kinda creepy mystery…a bright spot in, my opinion, a lackluster Season 7.
This episode is somewhere in my top 20 TNG episodes. "Creepy" goes a long way with me.
Very trippy!!
I love this episode because it's so out there, and it's got mint frosting. What's not to love???
Give me some Jammie Dodgers and mint frosting, please
The Enterprise gets another bum warp core. Can you imagine Picard ringing up Starfleet Command - "Bloody hell, man! We are the flagship of the entire fleet! Why do you keep giving us this substandard shite!"
Not one of my favourites but I do appreciate the plot being totally absurd
The Data-Worf-Spot scene was gold.
So does this make Data the first Android phone?
This is what I mean when I say that season 7 gets weird. Most of the "good" episodes, or guilty pleasures, are like this where either something or everything is completely out there. They're fun to watch at least.
This episode always seemed so random. I wouldn't call it E because I don't think it's terrible from a entertainment standpoint. But it really adds nothing to the cannon...the "lore" if you will except for "hey look Data sometimes becomes a murder machine"...which we already know and have seen plenty of examples of. You could erase this episode and aside from the funny bits of eating a cake and Data seeing Sigmund Freud over Troi you wouldn't be missing anything. Basically a big old shoulder shrug for me and a low C minus.
Definitely one of my favourite episodes, though I can understand others really not vibing with it. Such a weird mix of comedy and drama and mystery, but everything works for me, and wraps up nicely by the end. But even for those who don't like the episode, I hope the attempt to do something different can still be appreciated.
Spot and Worf at Tanagra, his claws extended.
Good episode, lacklustre ending.
Star Trek: The Next “Inception”.
This episode realistically portrays Freud as a total nutjob unworthy of the time of day.
This episode combines a pretty good mystery that doesn't really get resolved until later with enough really weird and different stuff that you can't help get into it. The official Star Trek Cookbook has a recipe for that cake, but for a cookbook it is full of spoilers for later seasons and series and so it's best avoided. I bet the guys may prefer the "family recipe" for Bones' baked beans anyways, which calls for 1/2 cup of bourbon.
Spot was played by several cats during the show, but the is the first occasion that I've noticed that they used two different cats in the same episode. Or was the last scene with Dianna and the cat with white fur also a dream...?
Want some cake?
The Counselor Troi peptide cake! That image is burned into my brain.
The imagery in this episode has stayed with me all these years! On that point alone, I give this episode a banger B-Tier!
FREUD: Describe the knife you used to cut the Counsellor. DATA: It had a black handle, and it was quite long. FREUD: How long? DATA: Twenty five centimeters in length. FREUD: Hmmmm. And what happened next? DATA: At that moment, I had an overwhelming urge to cut a piece out of the cake. I could not stop cutting. ... FREUD: Yes, definitely Fully Functional.
And that is definitely Freudian.
This episode has everything needed to make a banger, but sorely lacks in execution. Continental drift moves at a faster pace. Typically I don't mind ¨slow and boring¨ but this is a surprising case of bad boring.
The Worf and Data scene with Spot is literally me and my dad whenever I get him to watch my cat while I'm away. He has a very Klingon like attitude to cats!
This episode is weird as fuck. I like it a lot.
What do you guys think tastes better: Riker-Brain or Troi-Cake? I mean the straw in Riker's brain is convenient, but the mint frosting is Worf-approved...
Pretty cool that Admiral Nakamura, played by Clyde Kusatsu, returns! We last saw him in season 2’s “Measure of a Man.”
Yes! Good catch!
FINALLY, the "Birthright, Part 1, Part 2," we always wanted. This is among the episodes that might have been my first Star Trek ever. I can't remember cause it was a weekend marathon. But man, what a weird episode. I loved all the imagery here, and how it didn't take millions in CG effects to create a dreamscape.
Always one of my favorites. A Data-centered episode, but everyone has their part to play. And cracks me up everytime Worf says "with mint frosting" about the cellular peptide cake.
I haven't rewatched a lot of season 7 since it originally aired. Literally the only part of this I remember is the Troi cake. I'm sure I'm not alone. Was it a good episode? No idea, but I'll enjoy rewatching it at least I'm sure
Sorry, perhaps contrary view. Bloody awful episode!
This episode always gives me the same vibes as "Frame of Mind". A surreal episode that is definitely out of the box.
Android Nightmares are just as terrifying as human nightmares. I bet you'll never look at a cake the same way again.
I love this episode. I guess some people don't react well to this kind of "weird stuff", but hidden subconscious messages expressed in dreams with bizarre imagery? I eat that stuff up like cellular peptide cake.
All I remember is the Troi Cake nightmare fuel and Data with an analog phone inside of him.
My favorite part of this episode is the slow and believable turn from Worf being honored to take care of his friend's pet to being utterly disgusted with it.
Worth an A just for the Troi Cake nightmare fuel. A logical follow on from Birthright.
"PLEASE! DON'T HURT ME, DATA!"
Imagine you got stoned or absolutely pissed then watched this episode and be like the fuck?
This is prob one of my favorite episodes. I don’t know why but when this one came out it just hit me and has stuck with me. I know it’s not a top episode of the show. Just a guilty pleasure. I know. I’m weird.
It's one of the best of the season! It's absurd and serious enough at the same time, and filmed in an entertaining and memorable way!
This episode is a guilty pleasure of mine. Completely batsh*t but who cares? It is a memorable episode. With mint frosting.
TNG was way ahead of it's time. It introduced the concept of an Android phone over a decade before they existed. Truly groundbreaking stuff. 20 episodes of TNG left
The android phone also had unlimited Data.