Many quality-of-life improvements to CD in VR
Yes, I'm talking about https://store.steampowered.com/app/3321460/Crimson_Desert/
I spent an indecent amount of hours on this one, and it's starting to look almost like a native VR game now. In fact, it's arguably the best-looking game you can experience in virtual reality these days, although it wants a beast of a PC in order to run at high resolution and frame rate with ray tracing activated. But which game doesn't, really? Ray tracing is being pushed so hard, yet basically no consumer GPUs are ready for it.
And of course in VR we pay double the price: literally, because the card has to render two eye views, and figuratively, because NVIDIA does not allow us to use their Frame Generation hardware, which is the only thing that makes RT remotely viable on current generation GPUs.
So... back to CD. First of all: I fixed the UI for good. Everything draws in its proper place now; HUD elements are gathered in front of you, while world markers are at their correct depth and stick to the objects or NPCs they belong to.
Honestly, the only gripe I have with the GUI right now is that the all-important hints the game gives you (like, which buttons you're supposed to press, and in which order, when you need to use a new ability or combo), are confined to a very small area in the top-left corner of your field of view, and drawn with a tiny font, which makes reading them and especially making out the button glyphs quite challenging. Please write back in the comments if you can find any third-party mod that allows you to fix that issue satisfactorily, and if you include a short guide on how to configure its settings I will add it to the post.
The R.E.A.L. VR framework will automatically switch to 2D rendering inside the headset when menus are detected, so the map, skill tree, inventory and so on will no longer show the glitches and usability problems that used to require manual switching every time you wanted to access the world map for example.
You asked for it, so I ported over the new camera system that I first implemented for BG3, giving you more control over the degree of tilting that the horizon is allowed to have. You will have three presets to negotiate the tradeoff between feeling queasy and having to crane your neck up and down ;-)
I fully rewrote the frame synchronization code for this game to get much better stability, especially when DL(S)SS is active and your GPU is pushed to the max and struggling to hit the refresh rate. The sporadic rendering hiccups present in the initial version, where it looked like the left and right eye wanted to swap places for a moment and DL(S)SS appeared to desync, should be a thing of the past.
I also fixed photo mode, so that it renders in beautiful 3D while at the same time allowing you full freedom in controlling the camera, even the field of view. Even though photo mode might not be a priority in most games, this one has such breathtaking vistas that you'll probably want to take some nicely framed shots to send postcards home!
If you haven't started your playthrough of CD in VR yet, then I'd say it's time to do so now []-D
Get all the gory details in my game-specific post, and the link for the latest Early Access release of the R.E.A.L VR framework can always be found here these days. Enjoy! Carry many cats around!!
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Hi. 2 things, first why cant i access High on Life post? I cant find it on PC and on android it says I must upgrade membership (like i wasnt a member already)? Another thing, why is High on Life acting like i was holding up arrow? I tried to turn off every peripheral but it didnt help. Thank you...
Luke hasn't redone that post yet. All the old game posts are hidden because he is redoing them under the new format. I'll try HOL later to see if I have the same issue. The character is just moving forware/up all the time? Or the camera?
I have the following problems in the game are there ways to improve the experience? I went from “well I don’t understand what it is well I’m going” to “I have a thousand things next to vigour that weren’t there before and you don’t understand what the fuck they are”
Can you add Crimson Desert-style cinematic letterbox/comfort mode for cutscenes to other R.E.A.L. VR games?
He just didn't remove the letterboxing for CD, which he doesn't for other games often. 007, there is the option in the REAL overlay you can uncheck to get them back.
Problems so far. Writings and mini-maps are too small. Opening the documents is impossible without the 2d. When you feed the animals at the beginning you see the fondness bar and then no more. You also have these problems I’ve been playing for this 3S!
You can only gain so much trust at a time with animals, so maybe that is that issue? Do you only see the trust meter one time and then not a second time? The mini map is pretty small naturally, which is why there is a mod on Nexus to make it bigger 😉 https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/275?tab=files All the setting menus and such should be in 2d, which displays them properly. If that is what you are talking about.
Hello Mods/Support, I have much success with many different LR VR Mods...man, so awesome, thanks for all your work to bring this to us! Now, I'm getting around to attempting CD to run in VR. Essentially, I got the mod into the right directories, I followed all the recommended settings from the blog post, I see VR enabled during the scene walking the load in to your last save point. Once I'm in game, the VR loses its hook, & I'm stuck in flat screen. Any suggestions on how to resolve this? thanks. note*: I'm on a 4090.
Make sure you are using the version of REAL that Luke put out a couple days ago. The game was broken by an update, and it sounds like you might be using the previous version. Drop the new files in and run the config.bat file again to update.
007 First Light looks great
Yup, looks fun!
Hi Luke, Just wanted to say I’m having an absolute blast with the framework. I’ve been burning through my backlog of games I never thought I’d actually get around to playing (already finished seven titles and counting). I think the framework works especially great with older games. It lets you crank up the graphics and see those worlds in their full glory again. So I hope you won’t focus only on newer titles and will keep giving some older ones love too. A couple of humble recommendations: Prey 2017 just a fantastic game, and Control, while we wait for the new one. Anyway, honestly, I’ll play pretty much anything you add to the framework, so you do you. Thanks again for bringing back my passion for gaming.
I agree, seeing older games get the VR treatment often gives them new life and is a real treat for us older gamers 😊
Hey has Indiana Jones VR functionality been broken by a recent update?
Looks that way, I tried it and could only get flatscreen
(Probably asked this in the wrong place originally)In horizon zero dawn -I get constant weird hand and feet glitching on characters in cutscenes. According to what is written here I should turn of cinematic letterboxing in the display menu but I cant find it.. There is also a mention of nvidia reflex low latency which I also cannot find in the menu. Is the guide outdated? Apart from the cutscenes the game runs and looks great! But if there is an updated way of fixing the cutscenes that would be great to know since it distracts alot from the experience.- I just realized I do not have the remastered version but the old one.. probably answers my questions mostly! I will probably get the remastered one, didnt know it existed until now!
Yes, I'd go with the Remastered version. It has DLSS which is quite helpful and it looks much better overall.
Hi! I got a question: since the last update CD doesn’t work anymore I know and I rolled back to a previous version allowing me playing in vr with the last RealVR update. But I got an issue the game even rolled back with Brandon’s version doesn’t start anymore, it freezed… do you have an idea ? Thank you ❤️
Same issue here! The game freezes even after rolling back with Brandon's method. Hope Luke finds a fix soon!
not work after 1.0.8
you suck. i haven't had access too everything i've needed to access and spent a bunch of time overseas. i emailed you saying to cancel my membership and i've gotten nothing off you but i get on today and i'm still active. you suck hard mofo
Why wouldn't you just cancel your membership through Patreon??? If you can access Patreon, you can easily just cancel your membership.....
I have been playing Avatar Frontiers of Pandora non stop for a couple of days now. Finally after 2 years or so I nailed the settings for my system and this game is so freakin great in vr.. I am absolutely blown away.. I regularly feel shivers down the spine and several times I have been of the verge of tears. That rarely happens to me in games but its just so f'in good.. All that said I wonder if there is something I am missing when it comes to aiming while on the Ikran. I dont understand how to hit enemies. I can hover right in front of an AMP and I have seen some random shots connect the times I have tried. Is this something I have to live with or is there maybe something I just dont get or some settings I can adjust? I do not have aim assist on btw. Thank you for yet a marvelous experience in VR!! After playing in VR I thought I had to check how the game looked with max settings on my tv and I was shocked that it was not really that much of a difference! Apart from the fact that it was flat, boring and not at all enticing :D
Luke redid the cameras after the last big game update for AFOP, so aiming from the Ikran should actually be pretty accurate at this point. As long as you are using a version of REAL that was released at or after that point.
What is the most fun vr game you guys have had from Luke? I seem to struggle to get into these because I’m tinkering way too much with cables; settings etc. open to any suggestions to start with. Thanks!
Well... Dark Souls games for me, but that probably won't be a popular opinion. Totally depends on what type of games you really enjoy.
I managed to roll back and get FPS cam mod working its super cool. Is there any way to get the resolution higher in the ini files? I know I would need to turn other settings down but manually editing to native crystal light resolution?
You can put a custom resolution in the user_engine_option_save.xml file. It is located in: AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save Look for this line: OptionInt2Vector Name="_viewportSize" _value="3920 3920" and put whatever resolution you want in there. Yes, of course, you will have to mindful of performance and frame stability :) and it should also be a 1:1 resolution.
Hey folks, I keep having this issue with Dark Souls 3 where it CTDs rather often. First few times, a couple of versions back, was on reload after death. But just yesterday with the latest version, it crashed when initiating some random combat encounter. Going to try a 2nd fresh install and see, but has this happened it anyone else?
Have you tried disabling Steam input? Though I think that would cause more than an occasional issue if it was the culprit. Next time you get a crash, feel free to put a copy of your RealVR64.log file on pastebin and post a link here. Maybe there will be a clue in there. You can also check Windows Event Viewer to see if it gives you any crash info.
Thanks for another great mod! I know you’ll probably be busy with it for a while because of the new game updates, but have you ever considered the Yakuza series or at least the newer games on the Dragon Engine? There are already 10 games on that engine, including the upcoming Stranger Than Heaven
Let’s hope Luke will work his magic for a Forza horizon 6 VR mod! That will be super amazing!
AI upscaled textures look fantastic in VR https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/2618?tab=files looks, you may need to give up RR & RT depending on your setup, but i think the trade-off was worth it.
Dang, they have been hard at work. I looked like 3 or 4 days ago I think and there were only a couple files 😁 Definitely have to install all the rest and try them out. Never mind, he just had to break them up :)
Cd broke after the recent update. If you want to roll back for now, here is simple instructions on Steam. Open Steam Console (Win + R) paste this in the box: steam://open/console Paste this command in Steam console: download_depot 3321460 3321461 8432047928063861989 It will download to your C or main drive. After it downloads, just drop the files from inside that folder into the updated Crimson Desert folder in your Steam games folder. Edit: I had to clean this up, but it should work now. You may need to restart Steam if it doesn't try to download initially.
I having issues rolling back too I cant work out how to get console working Hmm is there any expected window for this to get fixed? I hoping to get in on the fun. Thank you Luke and Brandon. I will keep trying when I get home as I hope to see this game about bought it for vr
I have the VR MOD that works partially, it goes into VR only just before the game starts, then at the game I'm left with a giant 2D image, does it happen to others too? The 11 GB update came out today!
Wuh oh, looks like today's update broke the mod! The game flicks between 2d and 3d screened during loading, and either starts the game as if 2d forced screen mode is on, or starts in 3d for a second or two, then reverts to 2d; and in both cases, cannot be toggled. Tried uninstalling all mods, different window types, and restarting (which seems to make it start in 3d but lock into 2d on the first launch after restarting, instead of the always-in-2d startup)
Me too!
Hey has anyone tried this ? TrueFirstPerson V1.1 at Crimson Desert Nexus - Mods and Community https://share.google/fRAZrk6BIZpZfURch If it works with the vr mod I will buy today
Yeah, I tried a previous version of it, and it was working for me. Not sure about this current version but I don't see why it wouldn't. I have tried a number of camera mods at this point, and they all worked unless they were not updated for the game version. The update today broke VR support though. Hopefully there will be a fix soon from Luke 🤞
Update broke game and my backup files are gone. Trying to download depot in steam console fails saying no license for depot?? Is there no way to roll back?
Open Steam Console (Win + R → steam://open/console) Paste this command: cmddownload_depot 3321460 3321461 8432047928063861989 This worked for me. I didn't double check that the build ID etc. is correct though :) But it was when I asked GROK last time. Feel free to double check if you want, but it is downloading for me right now. You can also try restarting Steam if it keeps not wanting to download.
Latest update for crimson desert has broken the framework. After re-running the config the display appears as a flat screen in front of you, the VR is lost at the moment it.
I noticed the same just about 5 minutes ago.
Does anyone have Nvidia rtx 5080 and can tell me what fps you are getting? I am thinking of buying a 5080 and I would like to know if it gets better performance in VR than RTX 3090?
should we get this game on steam perhaps?? : ) https://store.steampowered.com/app/2183900/Warhammer_40000_Space_Marine_2/
Have you ever thought about doing a metro game? The 2039 trailer got me excited. And because its the A4 engine and not sloppy UE5 it might be a candidate? ;)
hi luke / brandon . with this update I have single core bottlenecks I had not before. 5800x3d and 5090 here. did you met this issue ? someome esle having this ? any help appreciated. overall cpu load is like 20% an gpu like 50% with almost all settings on medium no rt res 2300x2300 quest 3 and virtual desktop. dlss on quality.
Why are you running so low a resolution with those settings? It would make sense if you were using RR, Max lighting, RT and/or DLAA combo but without RT and using DLSS quality that seems very low, which could explain why you have such low usage. Are you saying you are unable to hit your fps cap with those settings or something? That doesn't sound like a bottleneck at all with that kind of usage on your CPU and GPU, they are both low. That just looks like you are underusing your system :)
I noticed that I have to use legacy alternate eye rendering with pimax otherwise right eye flickers this was with avatar. I put oclus meta runtime on. But only thing to fix was legacy aer. Looks great.
Make sure you disable Pimax sharpening :) Someone said Pimax is working with Sboys3 to support more of their headsets beyond the Dream Air, so that will hopefully work wonders with compatibility.
Would Forza Horizons 6 be absolutely nutters to add to our testing Joy's? I remember hearing a lot of cries for 4 and 5.
Would Forza Horizons 6 not be absolute nutters for our testing Joy's? I remember hearing many cries for Horizon 4 and 5 back in the day.
Hey Luke, Would you ever consider adapting FORZA HORIZON 6 to your framework? The FH franchise is the only thing that is an "open world" driving sim (although it's more fun driving than sim per se), all the rest is track based or point to point. It's puzzling that Microsoft isn't making VR legacy on FH considering they do offer it for Flight Simulator (even on PS5! haha)... and it's not like adding VR to a driving game is an actual implementation challenge (lots of racing/driving games on PC have VR support). Sadly the only options right now are some pathetic vorpex style solutions, and if you could properly adapt it to VR I think you'd become a giant hero to the PC VR racing community :P PS: - it's possible that any modification would disable the MP aspect, but personally I can live with this limitation. - another potential hurdle is that FH seems to be using a proprietary engine, so things may get complicated. PS2: I want to thank you again for bringing Death Stranding 2 to VR, it's a fantastic experience.
Hi everyone, I honestly need some help because I'm completely lost. I'm running a decent setup with an RTX 4080 and a Quest 3, but no matter what I do, I cannot get an acceptable image quality, and the game is constantly lagging and stuttering. I’ve read all the comments here and followed every single guide, but nothing works for me. I see some people saying they play in "Mono" mode to fix performance and sharpness, but frankly, what's the point of playing in VR if you disable the 3D stereoscopic effect? To me, that completely kills the immersion and defeat the purpose of using a headset. I’ve tried everything, including tweaking all the in-game settings (low graphics, disabling Ray Tracing and Max Lighting), changing the dominant eye, and even installing OptiScaler with FSR 4 as suggested by genz0r. It’s still a blurry. The only thing that gives me a noticeable FPS boost is reducing the FOV directly inside Virtual Desktop. Curiously, the horizontal and vertical FOV sliders inside the R.E.A.L. mod overlay don't seem to change anything for me at all. Is there anyone with a 4080 and a Meta headset who managed to get a smooth AND sharp experience in FULL 3D stereoscopic VR? If so, what are your exact settings? I really want to enjoy this mod but right now it feels impossible. Thank you!
This game is pretty tuff at the moment. Since their DLSS implementation is pretty bad, it leads to about as much shimmering as any other upscaling or more. Lower resolutions should look better as you decrease your fov because the quality of the remaining image is higher, more PPD. So that is one route to making things look better if you want to not use upscaling at all or DLAA. I would say go with Ultra lighting and RT on because RT has very little cost along with Ultra lighting. Then decide if you want to use upscaling or not. People use Mono because it looks better since it is only the image from one eye. If your brain picks up more on other depth cues it can still look like there is some amount of depth, although there isn't. I have played games on my monitor that looked more 3d than others because of other cues and effects. But yes, there is an obvious visual difference for most people probably when switching back and forth repeatedly. I personally can struggle to tell if something is not in stereo 3d at times until I switch back and forth and see the difference. Binocular overlap in a given headset probably is a factor in this as well. Nothing wrong with people using it or you not wanting to, personal preference. There just is no best answer for this game currently. You are going to run into issues using RR and DLAA because of performance or visual issues using upscaling. They really need to work on their lighting system more and DLSS implementation. Despite people saying it is well optimized, I am inclined to agree with Daniel Owens. Good optimization means there is meaningful impact at different settings levels. This game doesn't have that much. It is basically, looks pretty at max lighting, RT and RR with crazy high-performance cost or mostly the same below that with little performance gain as you go down. Unless you go all low/minimum perhaps. But only a few settings really seem to drive visual quality at all. I think it will definitely improve over time though. You can try forcing preset E for DLSS, it doesn't have as much flickering. I use that or K along with this graphics mod (link below) and the only problem I have left really, is the garbled shadows on people. They can look terrible depending on lighting. E or K gives you better performance and seem to have less flickering to me. E is not as sharp, but I use Reshade sharpening, so that doesn't bother me much. You will have some shimmering and trails with upscaling I think no matter what. FSR seems to have more instability with hair and a kind of film grain when you move your head. No really solid solution at the moment outside of crazy performance costs and limiting fov etc to get there. If they fix DLSS and those shadows, it will be far easier settings wise. Plus, their lighting at night 😉 https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/651
This isn't related to CD specifically, but is there any way to bind the recenter key to XBox controller input(s)?
Just figured out I can do it with Steam controller customisation. Long press of system button to recenter keyboard input works perfectly.
is there way to make Luke's dxgi compatible with Shader Toggler by Otis? Luke's dxgi doesn't seem too recognize ShaderToggler.addon64 - - tho it has the same interface as Reshade - - it needs Rehade Add-on support, renaming it to d3d12.dll trick doesn't work either
Not currently, no. Implementing compatibility for Addon support would probably mean rewriting the framework around the latest version of Reshade, which would be a major undertaking in itself.
Is there a way to change the comments section from being sorted by the number of likes to being in chronological order? It seems this was switched recently (at least for my account), and it can make it harder to find information on game updates, mod compatibility, and similar topics. Thanks!
click on the two arrows on the top right of the comments?
Forza Horizon 6 now released in advanced access and next week regulary. There are already mods out there and reshade is working without any issue. With all that, would a VR mod be possible? Please please... this would be the first open world arcade racer in VR and it would be amazing.
Luke, will you create a mod for Forza Horizon 6?
dying light the beast please
Hi guys, the only....... mod....... I need in CD is the ability to always stay in first person. I tried, but I can't! Can anyone explain how to do it? (I used the More First Person XML file, with UCM and the version.dll.) But all this prevents Luke's framework from working. Is there anything special I need to do? Thanks.
I just used that latest version of the Json mod manager to install asi mods like that and it worked fine for me. Was able to use UCM fine as well though. Does the framework run if you revert back to vanilla with UCM and delete version.dll?
Indy update has borked VR again, I roll backed and got it working but couldn't use my saves with that version. Hope a Luke fix soon. I was on a roll going for all trophies and collectables. Pesky godam updates.....
Hi,please can you fix the Indy mod after the update broke it? Keep up the good work! Thanks
Yup, sorry, I should have posted a message about Indy :( It is currently broken after the latest update. I already let Luke know but it probably would have been nice if I had let others know too 🤦♂️
Here I go again with my fancy issues... this time for Indi. Haven't installed this on my new PC before so this is a fresh setup. I was going with the video guide posted somewhere in here to check if I am inputting everything correctly and I could not spot any difference but my Indi launches in a flat quare and fails to swap to VR. Identical to the function "toggle 2D screen" in the second tab but ticking that checkbox on and off doesn't do anything as I am already in that 2D mode. Monitor setting is Window mode and well everything is set just as in the video. Here is my log: https://pastebin.com/Qp8eHVCE And this are my overlay settings: https://pastebin.com/2xSWTHfs It's the Steam Version + DLC. Sorry for being so difficult.
Nope, this one is nothing to do with you :) The recent update broke it. I already let Luke know after the update.
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle is cooked with the new Steam update. Please include a fix in the coming update.
https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/2583?tab=description This is a pretty good first-person camera that still has the player body visible. Not perfect and you have to be careful about moving your IRL position, but it keeps you in FP while in combat, gliding, mounted etc. Has an optional file to go 3rd with bows and guns. Does require Ultimate camera mod install. But that allows you to adjust things manually, so that can be a plus.
great finding! EDIT: Ultimate Camera Mod failed to install it, oh well
Try the DOMINENT EYE setting !! Yesterday, I had a completely unexpected revelation. I didn’t even know there was a setting to choose the dominant eye. So I had been using the right eye, which seems to be the default. Then I tried switching it to the left eye and, honestly, magic. I’m not exaggerating: everything changed. For the first time, I really felt like I was inside the 3D world. With the previous setting, there was this almost invisible problem, the kind you can’t really identify unless you know it’s there, but I could definitely feel that something was off. After changing the eye setting, the difference was honestly radical. Now I genuinely feel like the 3D environment surrounds me and includes me. Before, it felt more like I was watching a VR scene from the outside, not truly being inside it. I’m not sure I’m explaining it perfectly, but seriously, it changes everything. I’m probably not the only one who never paid attention to this setting, and there may be others here in the same situation. So if you’ve never touched it, try switching the dominant eye setting and see if it changes anything for you. Honestly, it completely transformed the experience for me. It’s so much more immersive now that I almost want to replay older games just to experience them properly.
I wonder why this is? I early on found and changed this setting to left since it is natural for me to aim by closing the right eye(cyberpunk) So if I did not change it I was unable to shoot properly. I never noticed the difference you seem to describe here though.. Curious.
Thankyou! I have a request though. Can we get some racing game love for VR? Specifically Forza Horizon 5 would be awesome, or Forza Horizon 6 that just came out. I have a really nice racing wheel that I never use but could dust it off for Forza. I know there are sim racing games in VR already but those aren't my thing. I don't want hyper realism or racing on an enclosed track. Forza Horizon games are right up my alley though.
Would love forza 6 especially with a wheel
Anyone else notice that the last game update seems to have fixed screen judder issues when frames are unstable? I can run through the city at 50-60 fps and things seem to stay stable now. Don't even need to set a cap with Riva Tuner anymore.
Well, after finally receiving my Pimax microOLED optical engine, I went back to The Great Circle, to try to finish the game one more time. Brandon, to summarize the prior experience, I played the game without issue using my MeganeX 8K. At the point in the game when Indy started the Egyptian part of his adventure, I received my Pimax Super and started testing it. In this testing process, I could not get my MeganeX to work again after starting the Super 50 PPD testing. After determining the 50PPD optical engine required even more processing power than my PC could provide, I could never get my MeganeX to work again. Now, after swapping the Super optical engine, I cannot get either headset to work, using release v2605.8.2. The game consistently crashes several seconds before the first game splash screen with the REAL mod installed, but works perfectly without the mod. I have cleared my PC (local) configuration and save files, as well as reloaded the entire game again. Any suggestions for this baffling problem? By the way, did Luke ever resolve the one frame issue with Pimax? Can Pimax OpenXR be used with REAL mods yet, instead of the Oculus runtime work-around?
No, Pimax has not resolved the frame delay issue with their driver. That is not a Luke thing, that is a Pimax thing and they will have to fix it on their end. Do you have Steam Input enabled for Indy? It has to be enabled now for some reason or the game will crash, same for the DOOM games. If that is not the issue, then maybe you need to ensure that the Pimax or software is killed off in task manager to get the Meganex working? I have to restart my PC when switching back to my Aero sometimes or the Varjo software won't register my headset. So maybe rebooting would help when switching. Not sure, but things can get finicky when using different software's these days. If the game is crashing on startup, it sounds like it is probably Steam Input though, hopefully 🤞 Yup, 50PPD is unrealistic unless you have a pretty small fov and you are not playing something like Indy 😉 Just saw that there is an update today, hopefully it didn't break things :)
I’m having a very strange camera issue and I’m trying to figure out if anyone else has experienced this. Here’s what happens: * When I launch the game, the initial screen appears very low, so I have to physically look downward with the headset. * If I use the Quest recenter button, menus become correctly positioned, BUT first-person mode ends up at the character’s feet/shins level. * If I do NOT recenter, first-person height becomes mostly correct and immersive, BUT all 2D menus and inspection screens appear extremely low. The biggest issue: When inspecting objects/letters/documents in-game, the camera switches back to the “low” offset mode, making it almost impossible to read or interact with them because the inspection view gets stuck far below my natural view direction. Any idea what could be causing that ? Does this happen to someone else ?? Is a pitty because first person is waay more inmersive.
That is definitely not normal behavior. Maybe something with your play space is messed up? You might want to check that and make a new one. Perhaps the floor level is incorrect or something.... Are you using a Meta headset? They have a recent bug with play space issues. Not sure if that is a factor here or not.
Hey Luke ,what do you think about REAL for FORZA HORIZON 6 after release ? This will be a banger The Forza series is well optimised and notoriously known for not having any VR implementation
I guess there was a DRM free leak of the game already. You could end up with an 8000 year hardware ban if you use it though 😂 It doesn't look like the Steam version will have any kind of third party anti-cheat, which is nice. I'd hold off and see how performance is and if the game is actually good before trying to get people asking for it :)
Hi all, you should all use this mod. It completely transforms the game and makes it even more 3D-like. Crimson Dersert Visual Redux Reshade by Skytex https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/12?tab=description
It is basically a reshader preset, isn’t ir? Makes grass less satured and things like that , or does it affect in some other way?
Hello again, I just wanted to revisit Spider-Man Remastered but the game crashes always shortly after the first game screen with the framework overlay. I tried the latest early access version, the free version and an old version v27_0_1. I tried all three settings for Steam Input, enabled and disabled DLSS in the starting settings window, always the same result. Am I missing something? Here is my log: https://pastebin.com/vph87BSq
Hmmmm, seems like the patches are applying fine and I don't see any errors right off. Maybe try matching the resolution in game settings to your monitor, it looks like it is trying to start at an odd resolution. I'm reinstalling now to see if it works fine for me. Of course, double check other game settings while you are there :) I think I remember you having issues with this one before, right? Quest 3 and VD?
I just learned its possible to roll back the version to 1.05 in Steam incase anyone didn't know. Follow instructions here (this worked for me) https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/comments/1s87396/you_can_roll_back_to_a_previous_version_of_the/, i am mostly only doing this for 3rd party mod reasons at the moment Steam console > download_depot 3321460 3321461 1068302266533705006
If you wan't to make it a bit simpler. When you see an update, or if there is a specific version you want to stay on. Just copy the game folder to another location. Then you can let Steam update the game and drag the files from the copy over to the updated game folder. Essentially same thing but you are just making a copy of the game instead of having to download it again :)
Hey Luke, unfortunately CD just had another update and the game appears to be broken again. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it going again. Honestly this one might be best to put on the back burner until they slow down with the updates. I know it has to be exhausting to keep up with it when they are happening weekly like now. Others may disagree, but I personally would be cool with you focusing on something else for a bit while the development settles down on this one. Maybe just let everyone know upfront after you fix it again that you will be pausing on it, so they have the chance to make a backup copy of the game in its working state for now if they want to. So many other stable games are out there waiting. Dying Light the Beast is just begging for your attention... 😁
Actually I went back and tried again and the game started up after 3 tries. Seems to be working fine after all....Still like Dying Light though LOL
Also I'm new here. How does Luke select his next game? Does he do polls? Or is just random?
It is kind of a mix of what he is personally interested in and what people seem to ask for most. But sometimes it is a sequel to something he did or previous game in the series as well. Player base is also a factor. If nobody is playing a new game, then I wouldn't bother asking. Honestly, I don't think there is a hard and fast formula though 😁 Which makes it kind of fun. You never really know what is coming next most of the time. So, if you have a request, just throw it out there...... or here.
Any chance you'd bring 360 camera movement to the older profiles? I mean tilting the camera. Such as Last Of Us, Spider-Man, SW Outlaws, Avatar, Ghost of Tsushima etc.. I'td be awesome to have full camera freedom on those.
Probably (my guess). Haven't heard any plans on if and when yet though :)
Incredible work as always Luke, much appreciated! The game is getting consistent QOL patches so I'm sure it'll only get better and better to experience in VR too. I'm already absolutely stunned with the level of immersion your framework provides, especially when switching to first-person mode. I'll dare to say CD is the Skyrim of our generation, a little janky and the story isn't great but the combat and exploration are top-notch. Thanks to experts like yourself the game will get even better and I hope the publishers appreciate the sales boost the framework provides. Only a few weeks ago I dreamt about experiencing this world in VR and you've delivered in spades. Looking forward to experiencing more and more of your work. While most big corporations are abandoning the "VR/metaverse" you're truly carrying the entire VR medium forward and keeping it relevant for headset owners both old and new, making VR something that everyone has to experience in their lifetime.
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General question. . .I ordered the lighthouse version of the Dream Air a while back, and it should be arriving within the next few weeks. I'm excited to try out the sboys driver for it. Will this have a positive effect on Luke's framework vs only utilizing Piman Play?
Yes, Sboys3 driver fixes some issues that Pimax has using Oculus or PimaxXR. Should have better compatibility from what I have heard.
for some reason the loading screen and "Walk towards the light" portion was in perfect vr but as soon as the game world actually loads it switches to 2d for me while Realvr is still on. (similar to main menu screen and ui in the game) how can i fix this?
Make sure your game is up to date and you are using the latest version of REAL. Still working fine for me after the update. Are you using other mods? Though I find the game usually won't start if a mod is broken by an update. Was it working before for you at all? What headset? Running any overlays or gaming software?
can someone share settings for 5090?
This game is pretty hard to recommend definitive settings for :) There are some major pros and cons no matter which way you go. I also went down a long rabbit hole the last few days of looking at all the xml files people have modified in the modding community for this game. I am actually questioning how many of those changes actually work like they say they do after that 😂 This game makes it very difficult because a sudden lighting change can drastically change how things look. I have a save where two NPC's look almost perfect when I load in, then the light changes just a bit and they suddenly are covered in garbled shadows. I also downloaded a mod that used an xml change to stop the game from forcing Max lighting when using Ray Reconstruction. It does, but fps and lighting essentially stay the same as you lower the lighting quality 😁So you can move to Ultra instead of Max, but you get the same results as Max 😂 Also, at night, when I turn on the lantern, it seems to greatly darken all the other light sources around the city. If I turn off the lantern, they all brighten up again. This game still needs some major work to its lighting 🫣among other things.
Hi Luke, how is the dream air running with crimson desert?
there's a new update that was just released, game boots fine, but i had a couple crashes in extended playthrough, i can't tell if these are new or existing stability issues since i only just got the game.
Looks like we survived the 1.06 update?
What is the reason for recommending restricting FOV to 0.7 and 0.63, i get black edges when doing that, is it worth it?
Restricting the fov will definitely give you black edges. It reduces the fov that the game is rendering at, which means it is rendering a smaller area of your fov. It enhances image quality of that area, which means you can then lower resolution to achieve the same image quality with more performance. So instead of running at 3920x3920 at 100% fov, you could run half of that resolution at 50% fov and get the same PPD or image quality to improve performance if you are using things like RR, max lighting, RT and DLAA. 50% fov is not at all recommended of course :) just as an example. If you were to run 3920x3920 at 50% fov, that would essentially double the PPD you are running at, so no fps gains because you are now running at a crazy PPD with the lowered area the game is rendering. In practice, you could lower the fov to say .9 or .8 on both and gain a bit of image clarity or be able to lower resolution to account for the cost of those settings while keeping similar image quality.
Would the camera tilt option be something easily added to other past games such as Elden Ring, Souls, etc. Or is it more involved and not worth the time investment?
What is this camera tilt option thing? Ive read that in some comments and idk even what it reefers to lol
Hi guys, thank you Luke for this mod. But is it just me or on Crimson desert it feels quite blurry, i am on 4000/4000 and everything in ultra; but the halo around the items and characters make it quite blurry
Yeah, really hoping they fix their DLSS implementation or improve upon it so we can use DL(S)SS with better results. I can stand in front of two characters in the camp on one of my saves and they start out looking quite good. Then I watch as the sun goes down and it gets a bit darker and they suddenly have all kinds of garbled artifacts on them. Fortunately, they are working at quite a furious pace on improving the game :) So chances are they will improve things graphically as well.
I have played CD quite a bit in flatscreen, but it won't load with the mod. I just get a black screen with a circle. I have a 5090. Any idea what it might be? I have a pimax CL. Updated Nvidia drivers, still the same.
Are you using Oculus runtime with the Pimax CL? Make sure frame gen isn't enabled. It has been turned on for a number of people now after they install the framework and it will keep it from launching. Nvidia app can also turn it on if you allow it to "optimize" the game. Also be careful of other mods stopping the game from launching after an update.
Huge thanks, Luke, for this new version of the mod. With the first version you shared, you gave me the chance to experience Crimson Desert in VR, and it was already a truly “frustratingly amazing” experience. With this new version, it simply becomes amazing. There are still a few small issues, for example the map display when assigning tasks to camp residents, but overall the improvement is massive. By the way, has anyone found an alternative to the “no letterbox” mode, since it apparently no longer works? Those black bars are really frustrating, especially in VR. I also wanted to take this opportunity to say something I hadn’t said yet since everything that happened earlier this year, unlike many others. I’m genuinely happy to pay a subscription every month. My gaming life has not been the same for months now, ever since I started playing games with your VR mods. Even when I already have the mods I want, I know that my subscription helps you keep working hard and hopefully bring us VR mods for future games as quickly as possible. It’s simple: without Luke Ross, my experience of video games, and especially VR gaming, would simply not be the same. Thank you again for everything, for your work, and for your courage. And as for the haters, they can simply go somewhere else.
Thank you so much for the kind words, Cyril. Comments like yours are what keeps me going when the going gets rough. The No letterbox and Better Subtitles mod still works! I'm using it and it completely gets rid of the bars in cutscenes. Maybe you just need to reinstall it after the update?
"Hi! I installed the REAL VR mod for Crimson Desert, but when I rename openvr_api.dll to openvr_api.dll.bak to play in flat mode, the game won't launch at all. Is there a way to switch between VR and flat mode without the game crashing?"
Is not that file that u need to change the name. Rename dxgii
CD is sadly not for me, but SO looking forward to First Light eventually (fingers crossed).
CD is sadly not for me, but SO looking forward to First Light eventually (fingers crossed).
"More First Person" mod is highly recommend. Flying and riding in FPV is amazing.
The previous version would allow you to move the camera to whatever game position and then hit F10 to lock it there, which was really nice. I hope he implements that again instead of just trying to keep it in first person all the time.
I am keen to hear how you travelling with the Dream Air? becoming your daily driver over the Q3 or pain in the rear to use with the mods and just too expensive and time consuming to set up? I think you wanted to write up about it in some time so I am keen to hear it..
The lighthouse version along with Sboys3's SteamVR driver fixes Pimax compatibility issues. That requires an extra investment if you don't have lighthouses, but who knows if/when Pimax will fix things on their end. I am hoping they do because I also would like to pick up a Dream Air at some point :)
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the (unlocked) camera tilt! I've always wanted that in your mods like UEVR has. Crimson Desert is so much better after your update.
Great work, I'm getting 72fps with RT on, no idea how. I do not really understand the new FOV sliders? They do not seem to change the fov.
They (fov sliders) only work with Meta headsets using Meta Link. The RT cost for this game is tied to the Lighting quality setting. Ultra lighting quality will have a pretty small RT cost for example, while Max lighting will have a much higher RT cost.
Doom eternal is on sale on GOG (UK) and I can confirm the framework works with it and you will be able to stop any further updates.
Amazing work, I look forward to playing it once i have finished Avatar, Kcd2 and Indy.
We could significantly reduce artifacts by toning down or disabling this crazy in game wind. Crimson Weather mod allows you to do this, but unfortunately it seems to conflict with RealVR (whether in its Reshade or .asi version).
You can also disable the weather effect in the game settings :) That way foliage blows around less.
One little omission I found : the right stick Y axis is not locked
There’s a new drop down menu controlling that! CD tab
The amount of work you put into this is impressive. Love the detailed write ups and the progress!
just tried it out, nice work!!
Tried that. Noticeable improve in performance with same settings. Great that hud is working good now and also map since the flat implementation. For the ones that are using dlss and complaining about it ; use fsr 4 with optiscaler. Better results.
For nvidia user, FSR4 with optiscaler is better?
Incredible your dedication making all these tweaks, your precious work is greatly appreciated !! I've never had any problems with any of your VR mods over the last couple years since I have been one of your Patreons, but this Crimson Desert I just can't seem to get working. I just updated to v2605.8.2_early_access and the issue is still there. CD runs fine in 2D, no overlays, I am running Pimax Super UW with a RTX 5090 and a 9950X3D so in theory it should be possible to run , but every time after I have copied the files in the correct Bin64 folder and applied the Realconfig as usual and I start the game from steam, I just get a BLACK SCREEN and CD won't load, it just crashes ... Crimson Desert is not Responding. Here are the RealVR64, I tried running it in PimaxXR https://pastebin.com/pmkcxXnx and SteamVR https://pastebin.com/YiqJ3xN9 , i hope you can make sense of it, I would really love to play CD in VR !!! I have made a post similar to this one yesterday but since then it has dissapeared. Hopefully you or Brandon the postmaster can spare a moment this time to find the culprit and give me some suggestions on what to try to make this working ! Tanks SO much !
Could be frame gen. Make sure it is off. You would need to use Oculus runtime for Pimax though. No SteamVR or OpenXR. Pimax OpenXR has a frame delay issue. Oculus runtime should work well. Just download the Meta Link App on your system if you haven't. Then of course extra settings like foveated rendering in Pimax Play may cause issues. Not sure if the ultra wide fov has a negative impact but I don't think that would cause crashing.
Wow, you sure knocked this one out of the park!
Thanks for the 2d menus Luke. I still can't use Ray reconstruction and have so much shimmering with dlss, I just can't get it to look good at the moment. I think I'll wait for more game updates in the hope it improves dlss at least.
This is obviously only my personal preference, everyone else seems to be loving it :)
Look at you go! So rad
Is there no way to run more than one GPU card and have them render each eye independently?
Even if there was some current way of doing that, the amount of people that would be able to set that up currently probably wouldn't justify any effort for Luke to try and account for it. They got rid of SLI. Plus, you would probably die of heat stroke from running 2 5090s 😂
thank you for all the hard work :)
The objects and characters looks very blurry or keeps getting out of focus like wavy. It makes my eyes uncomfortable. Motion and depth scaled is turned off.
If you are using DLSS, their implementation is not very good. Hopefully it improves. Lighting quality is a big visual driver in this game. For example, foliage and game objects seem to look worse the more you lower the lighting quality. What resolution are you using? You also need to make sure you have a fairly stable frame rate, if you are pushing things and your frame rate is dipping, it will cause upscaling to break. Are you using any upscaling? This is a tricky one because the game still has issues itself and those become more apparent if you aren't able to play at max settings with DLAA. You can still see them at that point, they are just less visible. If you watch people playing flat, you can make out a lot of the same issues. Like smearing/shimmering on foliage and lighting artifacts. Welcome to the age of forced RT and RTGI :) They don't seem to have put much time into the fallback SSR implementation at all. I'm sure the game will continue to improve though. They seem very serious about taking in player feedback and improving off of that. Which is great!
Thanks gonna test tonight :)
is it worth trying this with a RTX 4090?
I think so. The 4090 is still a solid performer. Maybe go easy on the Ray Tracing 😬
Been holding off playing this cause I just knew you couldn't let sleeping dogs lie. 🤓
Amazing! We really appreciate your indecency. Thanks man. You are a legend.
Thanx! Will try it out now!
great job , ui and minimap work great now , and fps is more stable in heavy areas
Once I get my hands on a Steam Frame I’m going to check out these VR mods