S4E21: The Usual Suspects

verbal has the same hairline as Dracula flow

Catching up on older episodes, so I'm late to suggest this: given how much trouble you had figuring out what his deal is, Kaufmann Star for "Kobayashi"?

Two weeks late bc I did stop until I watched the film for myself BUT on the topic of the homosexual themes: if we assume the crew were real, I'd like to make an argument that Fenster and McManus were textually gay. Mostly small things, like Fenster saying in the police lockup he had a finger up his ass and making jokes about seeing someone else's dad. But also McManus' very sentimental insistence that they bury Fenster with their own hands, that Fenster was "his partner for five years" (probably not how that word was intended in the nineties, but it colors my reading nonetheless), the fact that to my knowledge he was the only one who didn't crack a gay joke at Fenster OR push back about the "honeymoon in California." That being said, I don't think this is impactful on the SCUM score, and might even complicate it if the read-as-textual gay guys are the foppish one and the guy in a racist hat.

Taking the opportunity to once again suggest you look at Heist (2003). I grant that David Mamet (who directed it) absolutely blows, but the cast is stacked and I think it has some interesting things to say about masculinity!

Excited to hear the gang talk about tilda Swinton more.

This is wicked late in the comments, but ... is 1986 Iron Eagle a heist movie? It has two heists: one, stealing 2 fully loaded F16's from the USAF. Two, a prison break (so stealing back a person).

I wonder if y’all are doing point break 1991, point break 2015, or both. Reckon I’m gonna plan on both.

I know it doesn't strictly fall under 'heist' season but I'd love to hear an episode on 'LA Confidential', one of my favourite films (along with 'The Grand Budapest Hotel' and 'Josie & the Pussycats' - I'm eclectic!)

Random thought, could Glengarry Glen Ross be a heist movie?

"this is a movie you can get spoiled for you" yes, indeed, by this very podcast! see, s2 ep 2.5 winter kills

So something i don't quite get is that Keyser Soze orchestrated this entire elaborate plot in order to assassinate the one guy in the world who knew his face. And then at the end he gets away, but now there's a whole police station who knows what he looks like. So it doesn't seem like he's really gained anything out of all of this.

I would like to nominate the unnamed Hungarian man burned to a crisp and still give a description of the devil for the Good Night Cross. Also, would you please consider looking into Kelly’s Hero’s?

Lots of good out of context Devon clips in this one, “I love you Kevin Spacey” and “I could kill so many presidents” being the two most notable so far.

90 min podcast, no mention of the name being a reference to "round up the usual suspects" from Casablanca. THat's ok, I'll keep listening.

I don't know whats wrong with me but every time "Keaton" is mentioned my mind goes to Michael Keaton who is not in this film

I love Tactically Getting Yourself Beaten Up, it's such a film noir mainstay. Done amazingly well in Brick where it's basically the protagonist's superpower.

it’s been a little aggravating to still hear this disdain from abi regarding the technical side of filmmaking - a bit rich from someone who in the past has referenced her wanting to write and direct her work

All the discussion of Zenigatafication makes me think some sort of Zenigata Sheild would be a much awarded addition to heist season

Compare and contrast: Frank Oz's "The Score" (2001), a heist film starring Edward Norton, Robert De Niro, Angela Bassett and Marlon Brando (in his final role), in which Edward Norton pretends to have an intellectual disability as part of the heist plan.

kevin spacey got the dracula flow haircut in this

I swear every like 5 years Bryan Singer gets accused of noncing and all of Hollywood gets factory reset and he still finds work

Spacey was working on a Gore Vidal biopic when shit came out. I woulda loved it. Shame on him for a few reasons.

I love the Great Audiophile Hour!

On the subject of "Technically a heist movie" it might be good to talk about Reservoir Dogs. A heist movie where you don't see any of the actual heist

You left out a major role on your list of Kevin spacy evil genius performances, namely his appearance as the major antagonist in the fictionalized palmer luckey biopic "call of duty advanced warfare"

The Three Homos merch when?

Speaking of Zardoz, my Trans Date and I are gonna take acid and watch Zardoz this evening.

Falling asleep to my Quebecois French instructional cassette and waking up sissy hypnotized.

As a person who is wayyy to involved in the American car and street racing scene, I'm saving all my criticisms for your reviews of the fast and furious franchise lol

You gotta do Baby Driver, the movie where Kevin Spacey has groomed a vunerable young man and loudly praises that young man's balls.

I feel like Abi is making a specific joke about Finnster but I'm really not online so I have no idea what she's talking about 🤔

This was my favorite movie that I watched waaaay too many times back in the day. Very well made movie, sadly. One of my favorite, tiny easy to miss bits is that early in the movie Agent Cullion say "You know how to catch a criminal? Arrest the guys you think who did it, and keep them in the cell overnight. The one who falls asleep is your guy, because he knows he's caught and he relaxed." And then when you look at the scene of the criminals in the cell after the lineup, the only calm and relaxed one, lying down on the bench, is Hockney. The guy who did steal the gun parts.

Where are the drops

Please watch "3000 miles to graceland" for heist season. Its the best worst movie. It will break the SCUM record hands down.

Looking forward to the Zootopia and Bad Guys episodes after this one

Zardoz finally being recognized as a work of unparalleled genius.

Does anyone else think that the Hungarian guy saying Keyser Soze sounds like Mike Myers doing a Scottish accent?

I thought the homophobia was interesting because whatever else they might be the star and director are gay so I looked up the writer. As far as I can tell he's straight and is also the writer and director for the most recent mission impossible films which is interesting for a different reason because that franchise in its earlier days was a sort of tasting platter for different well known directors.

I'm a random nobody, what would some rich prick like Kevin Spacey care if I called him a murderous rapist pedophile? Which he is. Delete this comment if you need to, but I'm not retracting that statement.

My first thought was "Pedophile hour? What an outrageous lie. There's no way this is only an hour long."

Hell yeah, JFK Reloaded! Fun for a few hours of dicking around alright.

If this episode is less than 50% beeped out libel, you have failed!!

Ok, the intro threw me for a bit of a loop because I sounded so much like a fakeout. I starting thinking oh, who else is there in this besides Spacy and Singer. Is James Woods in this? Phenomenal actor. Might be a guy-I-love-to-see if he weren't such a reprehensible cunt in real life.