S4E5. Ocean's 12

I like how they have to begrudgingly accept a hetero Zenagatafication. It's like like Mace Windu telling Anakin that he's on the council but not being granted the title of Master. (Incidentally, I whenever they say "Zenagatafication" I always here it to the tune of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly.)

Cheering at the Nightshift shoutout. Great channel to watch with a hot cup in the morning

dev screaming at the top of their lungs about mr beast is one of the best moments of the entire show

dev getting genuinely furious about mr. beast is my everything

Love to be one of the more Rumpelstiltskin-ass trans people listening going "You'll never guess MY name tee hee hee hee"

Righteous Fury Dev is my personal hero

Ya’ll keep sniping me every time you mention Hunter Schafer (no relation as far as I know tho)

$110M of Catherine/Brad eyecandy is money well spent

The 'dead name sniper' bit is great but it will never beat my friend being dead name sniped, both first and last name by an episode of Yu Gi Oh Zexal

Oh heck I’m still playing catch-up with these and listening to Pierre Novellie’s ‘Why Can’t I Just Enjoy Things?’ 😰

Have you guys referenced the movie Out of Sight in regards to the Ocean's movies? It could be Danny Ocean's backstory

After the Van de Woude heist I was expecting Catherine Zeta-Jones to turn out to be the Night Fox. She has a motive to get back at Brad Pitt, the knowledge of all these elaborate heists, as well as confidential access (VDW's codes). Also a fox is woman coded. But no, the Night Fox was just a random guy.

Dutch Is A Real Language Fun Fact: Hoofdzaak can be literally-translated as Headcase. (It is a Pune, or play on words, because 'zaak' also means 'business/shop' and hoofd means head and hoofdzaak means main point or most important matter)

You didn't get my name but Alice ALMOST got my deadname when I thought it was all over xD Also Abi, PLEASE you do not want open channels to Mr. Beast. Worse things are done by this man every day. Please do not associate for the love of everything lmao

Honestly please do bring canes back. There's a wide variety of custom canes I've been considering lately on account of needing one to walk more than a block or two. If more people buy the fancy canes they might be easier to get a hold of. All stores normally sell are basic ones which are wonderful and supportive but typically have fairly boring decoration.

ALPHA PROTOCOL MENTIONED (It is a very good idea to keep the podcast just about movies, but I admittedly do want to see Alpha Protocol get separate SCUM scores for Suave/Professional/Aggressive Thorton) e: the marketing even outright named the character types the "three JBs": James Bond, Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer

I have an unusual but biblical deadname, so I was really hoping you'd guess it xD (it doesn't hurt me)

I just wanted to say, I've been burning through the back catalog, and the stealth Xavier Renegade Angel references keep making my day.

I just want to say that as a gay man, I am offended to my core by the suggestion that not knowing who Topher Grace is, is in any way comparable to not knowing who Liza Minelli is.

Yeah, so you totally nailed *my* deadname this time lol

Thinking I'm safe from November's name shout out blind fire, only to get sniped through the dome immediately by Abi. 😵

Can’t help but say that I think “Confessions of a Dangerous Mind” would be a good bonus or regular episode during this run. Clooney’s directorial debut, features Brad Pitt and Matt Damon and Julia Roberts from right after the first Oceans movie and is a spy movie. Probably his best directed movie too.

i want to say that i went on a date at the met opera recently and because i was running late and had abby’s story in the back of my head, i wound up sprinting from the 57th street station to the met opera house in a full suit in the space of about 6 minutes. i did, in fact, make it right before the doors closed, so thanks for that. did find it hard to focus on la bomeme for the first 20 minutes because my heart was about ready to beat out of my chest.

The way I shouted at "kit-basher". Banger episode!

Is anybody else not seeing the episode art on Patreon?

Really looking forward to Escape from LA! It's a very silly movie. I'm also kinda hoping Devon cosplays as Snake Pliskin at some point

Regarding Brother roles I recently saw Sing Street for the first and by god does Jack Reynor Brothermode the fuck out of that movie.

The film does actually foreshadow that they stole the egg multiple times by pulling the same trick as Usual Suspects and having the camera repeatedly watch the backpack in EVERY scene. They also explain that they had to act like they were stealing it so that the Night Fox didnt realize theyd already stolen it and have him come after it and them. In fact, many of the elements of this film are done the same as Usual Suspects now that I think about it....Also Linus' mom has REAL credentials, its why she and her husband are such legendary theives, theyre COPS AND THIEVES so they can always get away with it!

Ngl as someone who rewatches these movies to an embarrassing degree I love this one, but it's a MUCH more fun watch the second time around knowing that you don't need to worry about the heist and you can just enjoy hanging out with the characters. The first film is undoubtedly the best of the trilogy, but the next one I anticipate a couple pleasant surprises for you all.

"Haha!! I stole that egg before I walked in the room!"

welshwashing

You perfectly articulated my feelings on this film versus Eleven. The first one grants you some nuggets of interesting shots and foreshadowing on a rewatch (kinda like the Usual Suspects), but Twelve's answer to sequelizing this is just "MAGIC! (jazz hands)"

I cheered at Kit Basher.

KJB Highlights Called shot for "They call him Basher, short for Kitbasher"

hope devon has a better time watching oceans 13, which is much more of a sequel to oceans 11 than oceans 12 was. this movie is so weirdly empty and shot in such an odd style it is a genuinely boring movie

Sorry to hear you didn't like this one. I get why many don't like Ocean's 12, but I think it's a clever sequel about the challenge of making a good sequel, which also asks what makes a heist movie work and comes to the conclusion that it's not actually about the heist. It's also just a great hangout movie. 12 is weird and shaggy and unconventional, but I'd take that over 13, a totally solid sequel that retreads familiar territory and doesn't leave much impression. Just my (unasked for) two cents. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the remaining Ocean's.

George Clooney has to go through a whole movie to steal one beautiful egg, but they just show up for KJB live shows

talkin about getting sniped by yall, I am an Amsterdam based lawyer😂

Laser capoeira was the only thing I recalled from this movie despite having seen it no less than 10 times in the late 00s. I thing it fundamentally changed my brain chemistry.

Topher Grace was the actor in Brad Pitt's first scene in the first movie. I think the point is, Brad Pitt went from a broke dude babysitting spoiled Hollywood types, to being a very rich dude babysitting spoiled Hollywood types

frank ocean

I saw this in the theatre but had absolutely no memory of the plot. I thought that was due to having been a horny teen making out in the back row throughout but I now realise the movie was also to blame.

Every time the Faberge egg was mentioned my autism brain would not stop screaming WHICH EGG?? because I had a brief Faberge egg hyperfixation about nine years ago, so I looked it up. It’s (a replica of) the Imperial Coronation Egg, made for the Tsarina in 1897. The Faberge eggs usually contain a ‘surprise’ (sometimes multiple layers of them), like a very expensive Kinder egg, and this one has a 4-inch long replica of the Imperial coach that the Tsarina rode in to her coronation made of precious metals and featuring moving wheels, doors that open, shock absorbers and a folding step-stair. It is also literally the one that comes up if you put ‘Faberge egg’ into Wikipedia. If you’re ever looking for a Wikipedia rabbithole, I highly recommend going through the list of all the Faberge eggs.

Time to pick a new name.

omg november w da shoutoutsss not only did u get my name but also *technically*? still mormon!

I've heard Novemeber mention "In Bruges" twice now. Please tell me you're watching it this season 🙏 🙏🙏

The resemblance between Middle Easterners and the Welsh may explain why the only Welsh James Bond briefly joined the Mujahideen.

Gooning Uniforms?…. GOONIFORMS!!!!! IT WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!

The best symphony to take an Ambien to would be Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique, which is about ODing on opium and hallucinating that you've died and gone to hell.

Welshmen Michael Sheen has played a vampire and a werewolf

If only this movie was made later they could’ve leaned into the natural dynamic the actors have of Da Crime Dads and their Socially Awkward Son. Wait fuck fuck fuck it’s THE BIRDCAGE but an FBI guy has to go after his criminal mastermind dads fuck copyright copyright

Thank you for stopping mid-bit to spare a thought for the afwul reality of Italian prisons. Can I suggest the lake of Iseo for your takeover? It's just to the west of the Como one.

As a fellow drop out, stop being mean to November. However, a Glasgow Kelly has to be something terrible right?

Richard Harris, a.k.a. King Limerick! (Jared's line in The Terror, "It says Limerick next to your name on the manifest, but that's not what comes out of your mouth" gives me flashbacks)

I can't wait til they get to the Fast and Furious series, largely due to the very strange politics of the films. Like I genuinely couldn't place the political stance of it myself because it gives off about 20 different vibes all at once

Y'all deadname sniped me in 2 with your scattershot.

Richard Harris .. https://youtu.be/sD-zTwi3_GU?si=OsSz0TCSJamJXThH You're welcome!

YES BRAD PITT FACE

Look I know this movie is nothing but I always enjoy seeing people having fun in Italy, don’t even know what happened in White Lotus season 2, just clapped like a seal. The next ocean goes stupidly big, I love it.

Bernie Mack was doing his sitcom, The Bernie Mack Show. Now you know, Abi.

As an Anna, I was seen. Thank you. 🤣

I dunno about Nova saying certain music isn't soothing. I quite enjoy relaxing to Sister Ray by the Velvet Underground.

Oh! I Learned why there's Mediterranean features in Wales & Cornwall.. It's TIN TRADING! Gotta mine that bronze!

Love Abi's "Who?" at the mention of Liza Minnelli.

At 40:50 Abigail accidentally summarizes the plot of This is How You Lose the Time War