S3E25.5: KJB Q&A #10
Recorded just moments before our Johnny English Live Shows, we pull down the curtain and get a little bit real. Finally, we're breaking our silence on the following questions: Whats the best type of Dog? What's our fancast for a Zardoz remake? How did we feel about I Saw The TV Glow? And finally- What did James Bond dot to that guy?
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Friend of the show Blake is fundraising for gender affirming surgery
It would mean the world if you could help contribute to her fundraiser!
https://www.gofundme.com/f/blakes-gender-affirming-surgery-fundraiser?lang=en_GB&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link
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FREE PALESTINE
Hey, Devon here. For the past few months I've been talking to a family trapped in Gaza, working to cover their daily living costs amidst repeated displacements in the Genocide. Their names are Ahmed and Layla, and their 4 kids are Jana, Malik, Lana and Amir. Anything you can contribute would mean the world to me. They deserve to live. They deserve to survive.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/a8jzz-help-me-and-my-family-get-out-of-the-gaza-strip
https://www.map.org.uk/donate/donate
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I just listened to a playlist of all the Bond theme songs in order and I’m pleased to find that November and I agree that For Your Eyes Only is the best one. I also think it’s the one you could most plausibly do a queer reading of.
On the topic of films that are out of our depth but would be excellent for this podcast: “Wadjda”, the first full length film shot entirely in Saudi Arabia AND the first female directed Saudi film, its a girl’s coming of age movie set in modern Saudi Arabia and has a lot to say about Saudi patriarchy and how it’s both reinforced and discretely dismantled. I watched it for my ME&NA Studies class and it’s honestly a really well done film and really insightful.
"For the next two nights there is no top": me when my dome leave gets cancelled 😔
Also contender for best marsupial, Mountain pygmy possum!! They're tiny and cute, they were thought extinct until their accidental rediscovery, and they have plagiaulacoid lower premolars! Very few things do, just some other marsupials, a small number of primates, and a huge extinct order of mammals that lived alongside the dinsoaurs and went extinct while rodents were evolving. Those fossils are a bit like weird rodents, google 'Arginbaatar', their teeth got bizarre and I like knowing that there's a cute little mouse-y guy scurrying around mountains having re-evolved weird teeth like stuff from the Jurassic period. 'Autism' is a condition in which—
Speaking as a person for whom KJB *was* my Pink Opaque, I have to say that my first step was pledging enough to get the bonus episodes, but not enough to be eligible to have my name in the credits. I knew I didn't want that (yet). I played it on repeat in my reverse-dysphoria woodworking dungeon. I replayed and re-replayed the episode that told me to just transition, so it could give me permission. It's been two and a half years since I came out, and as the machinery of the world aligns itself against us, I am understandably distraught and terrified, but only because I finally have a life I'm afraid to lose. I finally have a life worth living! And I can point directly to your podcast saving my life. Things will be more difficult this way, admittedly. But I'll be alive the entire time, and I've already received happiness, contentedness, joy, and love in abundance. So regardless of outcome, regardless of anything yet to be suffered in my future as a direct result of transphobia, I have already exceeded my hopes for a happy life, because up to that point I didn't truly know what happiness was, *at all*.
For No Notes Only
You guys should do “Lucky Numbet Slevin” for heist season because it is fucking bizarre, has Lucy Liu, josh Hartlett, Morgan freeman and Ben Kingsley in it, and no one has watched it.
1) oh my god Bound 1996 for heist season and 2) i'm a disability studies PhD student and I'm dying for some material about disability and trangression/deviance in a lot of the films you've discussed and have touched on re deformed bond villains. I do cultural studies/textual analysis/literary criticism about lesbians and pain and have definitely been considering some scenes/entire films you've covered in my dissertation. I'm biased, but the documentary code of the freaks is a really fun entry point to disability studies film criticism !!
Devon, the letter Ain gave me trouble for a while cause I didn't understand the instructions I was being given ("like an A but you're being strangled"). The thing that finally clicked was realizing it's an Arnold Schwarzenegger noise, like one might do in an impression after "get to da choppa" or "come on, do it! Kill me!"
You honestly might have saved my life with this one
Just occurred to me that The Anderson Tapes is a heist movie. Stars Sean Connery and a strikingly young Christopher Walken.
Oh, I didn't ask if a Trillbilly would ever be a guest
Fake fan. Princess Celestia has a flying chariot pulled by pagasi.
Also please I beg of you please watch the musical Spies are Forever at some point 🙏
Ok first of all putting a fish in a submarine is not like prison it’s like a car or a train or something. And second of all sharks are little darlings who have been stereotyped but are relatively docile compared to, I don’t know, pregnant detecting dolphins and boat eating orcas.
absolutely hooting and hollering about a sci fi season. kjb if you cover the abyss my life IS yours
god AND a blindsight mention... truly this q&a is for me
A very obscure suggestion but for heist season I'd love to see you tackle the near forgotten (even here in Ireland) 1997 flick 'How to Cheat In the Leaving Certificate'. It's a indie dark heist comedy made for about ten quid that still managed to get a national release in Irish cinemas and got complained about by the government. Graham Jones who made it posted the entire thing for free on YouTube a few years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Od5clyN0M)
I would absolutely love to know if The Fifth Element counts as a heist movie? (And, secondarily, would you cover it?)
Also, would hot fuzz count as heist season? I’d argue it’s at least heist adjacent
Much as I like it I think 'Hot Fuzz' is 100% a cop movie and best saved for a police/detective season.
Nova if you like small marsupials, would recommend Australia tree kangaroo. Funky and very rare tiny little guy. Once saw one in northern Queensland
Looking forwards to Now You See Me in heist season and watching the crew get increasingly irate at the blatant wizardry.
Our cat is named Singham after that very movie
The end of I Saw The TV Glow is that I, the viewer, transitioned. I've watched so many trans stories that didn't resonate because they were about the euphoria of transition. It took the movie about the unending hell of repression for it to finally click.
Was the "what did James Bond do to that guy?" From Octopussy? I thought it was Dr No, but they might have done it twice.
I know you might want to move on from the 1950s and 1960s but there's some banger French robbery movies in there like Le Cercle Rouge and Rififi.
SAMOYED SUPREMACY! Brushing a Samoyed daily is good - and Necessary- for the dog, and its good for you as a bonding activity; When you bring a Sammi into your daily routine you can use the time when brushing as meditation time! Also this allows for your Sammi to be exposed to being tumbled around as you brush legs, belly and withers without reacting badly, which is good for vets and when they are due for their barber visits 😆 But as November said, as with all Dogs, it takes alot of care for such a dog, but I fully believe its worth it!
Kelly's Heroes and Three Kings would be a GREAT Robbery season double bill! (with a bonus crossover into War season)
First of all, while Princess Celestia does have wings, she is shown to ride in a ceremonial chariot, which I agree should be called Mare Horse One.
Second, if you are still looking for film recs, I hope we cover the Mission: Impossible films this season (very heisty and a spy franchise you haven't covered yet). I also want to see To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything on a bonus episode
I feel the urge again to lobby for two french films for Robbery Season : Max et les ferrailleurs (1971) by Claude Sautet, it's about entrapment, with great performances from Michel Piccoli and Romy Schneider. A lot of Guys in there and a lot to talk about. The other is The Trouble With You (2018, fr: En liberté!), a rare action comedy with Adèle Haenel in the lead role, very horny in a fun way. Matches your respective freaks or so I hope. Thanks for the podcast ❤️
Big fan of HotD. More Abby beating the shit out of polish royalty, please.
I don't know if you guys are still taking suggestions for movies to cover but I'd really love to see you guys cover Kill Bill (vol 1 and 2)
I'm also currently reading Cuckoo. I agree that it's a much different story and slower of a burn than Manhunt, but it definitely feels like Gretchen Felker-Martin is getting quite proficient in writing many unique characters at once in the same story, I'm enjoying it a lot
Opossums are clearly the best marsupial
We meet at dawn! Choose your weapon!
Also Devon, if you can get one cheap, get a Jobo Processor for color dev at home. Needs water supply, but I also jerryrig mine to the sink, so that’s actually not that much of a problem.
Actually met someone a few weeks ago, who does air freight management as a job and he told me about flying horses, which is apparently pretty awkward to do. The more you know🌈
Apocalypse season. Please :)-
RE: the ending of I Saw The TV Glow I went with a bunch of trans people and my *whole row* watched until the lights came up as we NEEDED it to be a fakeout
“ Dog day afternoon “ Please 🙏 💜
Suggestion for heist season: Widows (2017, directed by Steve McQueen, starring Viola Davis)
If nothing else that movie is the most accurate depiction of how American city politics works on the ground - uncanny
Can’t wait for the Hudson Hawk episode.
Yes, pease and thank you!
_Star Wars_ and _Rogue Onei_ are in heist season, for the stolen plans.
Throwing in a suggestion as tangentially a heist movie: “Jackie Brown”
Also, MASSIVE yes for Four Lions and Inside Man!
I literally did pause the podcast to go watch I Saw the TV Glow and I died
From fundraising for a Gaza family to standing against bigotry on your home turf, I heartily salute you Devon!
Did anyone else think Abi was saying that Devon was her favourite marsupial?
If they don't do The Great Mouse Detective for heist season I will be so sad. I think there would be soooo much material there. Especially as a follow up to Flushed Away but like as an actually good movie.
November said L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat was from the 20s. I’d like to have her state issued cinephile license revoked.
The gasp when Devon mentioned I Saw The TV Glow. So worth it.
I’ve already recommended How to Steal a Million for Heist Season, but I’d also like to recommend The Great Muppet Caper. It’s the best Muppet movie (yes, better than Christmas Carol) and is legit hilarious.
Muppet rock
There was one episode where snog marry avoid basically detransitioned someone. In like you're going to stop wearing makeup and only wear boy clothes from now on
If you’re looking for Egyptian Spy movies, Boy from Heaven could be really interesting to talk about I think
RE: Robbery season; start with Heat, Fast and Furious as your long runner, Ocean's as your live show series. Watching the three of y'all on stage talking about some of my all-time favorite films? Yeah, I need that.
Just b/c his name was dropped in the recording: What does Tim Walz say about masculinity?
If you do a Wong Kar Wai season I can help organise a live show in Hong Kong.. maybe Chung King Mansion!
The best dogs are Swedish Vallhunds which are the husky corgi ones but they're actually their own thing not a Corgi X!
Please ruin us on Iranian movies! Give us A Taste of Cherries and Marmoulak and and and! (Can consult if desired)
FWIW, it should be possible to get I Saw the TV Glow via most places that sell VODs, so you don't need to see it in theater (not sure if that's different in international markets). As of like last week, it was announced as coming to Max (guess I'm a commercial now...), so that's another way it would be possible to see it. No, I'm not just sharing this because I dream of a bonus episode on it so you can get into the meat of the film... Just mostly. But I also get being afraid of it hitting too close to home. I was, too. And in a few places, it did.
Fake fans, Princess Celestia has a chariot pulled by four pegasi.
Still hoping for the Kingsmen series. Or at least just an episode on the stinger after the credits of series prequel The King's Man(2021)(ww1, spy), that stinger had me Citizen Kane clapping and yearning for thier ww2 movie
Kingsmen is a series of three movies, so we're holding it in reserve for potential live shows
Holy shit! My question was answered!
Kelly's Heroes is a two for. Heist and war movie. I would die happy if they did a Fast and Furious season. Fast Five is an actual heist movie. Heists are not the center of most of the other pictures, especially Tokyo Drift. I'll volunteer my services as SME for the Fast franchise.
I just opened my phone to drop a Kelly's Heroes mention. You are doing the lords work
Is Goodfellas a heist movie?
Please, please do Thief (1981).
I think it would be possible to fold kidnapping season into robbery season! Like this you could potentially talk about Rush Hour and get some good kung-fu on either the main feed or the bonus. It's also a good entrypoint into buddy-cop films! Once again I am on my knees, presenting my sword as allegiance to you three. But the sword is actually a copy of C.R.A.Z.Y. by Jean-Marc Vallée on DVD. It follows the story of Zach through his childhood and adult years, fighting against his homosexuality and struggling to find acceptance in himself and his family. But it's also so much more!! I'm straight-up willing to buy a copy and mail it to a KJB po box if need be, it's a good film I promise
For heist season I would like to suggest The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. I know it sounds like a joke but they are definitely heists. They assemble teams, they make elaborate plans, they execute the plans (which go wrong), and they show the aftermath of their heists. In the case of LotR it's a reverse heist too which I think is fairly novel.
Suggesting for romance season - Tootsie! Gender AND acting!
Alas it is not available here
Heist movie suggestion: The Great Muppet Caper.
Can we get KJB does nostalgic kids films - I want to hear you all talk about Don Bluth films and what it has to say about masculinity, and the live shows become ALL the Land Before Time films.
Is Ghost in the Shell (1995) a Spy Season pick?
Part of the sub-species cop movie
Throwing Gattaca (1997) into the ring for a somewhat sideways robbery season pick (you can steal an identity right?) - has a lot of topics to discuss including some interesting trans and masculinity takes; also a fantastic performance from Ethan Hawke!
It's absolutely a heist movie, I second that.
I now require Nova to show up to the next liveshow in a shark costume.
The first time I ever listened to this pod, I skipped the q&a's, and then months later I finally came back and listened to them and discovered that they were the source of a decent amount of the shows lore, including the first mention of Uncle chops and the spray bottle.
for heist season can you guys watch Snatch please
I asked a ska question and I'm a little sad that they didn't PICK IT UP PICK IT UP PICK IT UP.
Last episode of Robbery Season as it leads into War Season: ✨Three Kings✨
For heist season, I'd love it if you watched The Town with Ben Affleck
I've never watched Snog, Marry, Avoid, but with your description I now need Milo's Kier Starmer to narrate a segment on dressing respectfully
I think the real question is "WHY did James Bond do to that guy?"
Carol (2015) mentioned! Really looking forward to it.
A good odd ball robbery season pick would be Sexy Beast
It doesn't explain Everything but tbh it explains enough that youse were dog kids
I maintain - if y'all ever need a legit Japanese studies correspondent, hit me up! I'm a Japanese politics specialist who works largely in anthropology but also does (and did) both contemporary and more historical Japanese history - I can show off my degree and also my student ID at a legit Japanese university too (plus I speak Japanese)
also to be clear this isn't even parasocial I just love talking about Japan and Japanese cinema
Nova turning into Frank Reynolds in the intro - “Hi ladies, I’m Frak- SHIT”
Ready to get parasocial!
Also, my god, I Saw the TV Glow. What a masterpiece.
