BONUS - TRUST ME: THE FALSE PROPHET
This week, James and Jimmie discuss the Netflix documentary series 'Trust Me: The False Prophet'.
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Content warning:
-sexual abuse
-sexual abuse of minors
-religious cult trauma
Comments (143)
I only just got Orgasams now. I can be a little slow.
Does it count if my parrot ate my trim? 🤣 🤣
The white leather jacket and Bentley bro…I can’t 😅
I was abuse as a child, and I hated the world for a good long while. I don't get how anyone can get brainwashed like these people? Maybe having been around predators for so long, some people just recognise it..
Yooo I live here and deal with tons of these people. Just like all religions there are good people and some are pure evil!
When torgo almost gives it away by telling them to not give the 9yo a stand so it'll show how ,, he almost says small or young ,, then catches himself.
I agree with both about who's fault it is. Moroni was the first believer because it was his redemption thinking he was now forgiven and brought the others in. Torrence definitely an idiot
I need trim money!
Im on the 3rd episode and I dont think I've closed my mouth yet!!!
Im binge watching rn and then gonna listen. Then I gotta go watch The Crash.
This is brutal
I need part 2
On today's episode of cops are fucking useless....
Nomez was giving Manson girl. She’s better now she has a tick tock…
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How did they guys not catch it when Sam told his wife to to "to just cheer up, babe." Omg I laughed so hard.
I started listening to this episode before I watched the documentary. I listened to like the first 5 minutes, then stopped because I had to see this insanity. And omg! You guys have gotten so many little details I missed!
Oh hallelujah James and Jimmie are the answers to my prayers! So, when will you be here to put my trim up? It's in the barn and needs painted before install, but it's here. I'm off next week Monday through Wednesday so I'll see you soon! 🥰
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Ok I’m embarrassed. I don’t really know what trim is. But when Jimmie said if you can see light through your door, you’re in trouble, I said uh oh. I do have a strip of duct tape that keeps most of the light out, but… I think I need trim help.
Pleaaaaase do 8 hours!
Can we have a bonus where Jimmie tells the story? Lmfao
Could we get your thoughts on Robert Wone for an episode?
WTF how come I can never meet such idiots, that just hand over all their worldly possessions, for no reason 😂😂 That ridiculous white leather jacket omfg!! 😂
LOL I moved into my boyfriends weird house and there’s no trim in the living room 💀🤡
The police are 100% compliant in this pedophilia ring
My house has trim ✅
11:56 "no draw"?!? Excuse me, did you not see his white leather jacket?
I just watched this today. I laughed out loud when I saw the jacket.
Just watched all four hours and.. Eh I gotta say the stuff about the adult wives/victims was not my favorite take from you guys. Also surprised you guys didn’t mention the DCS’s incompetence and how it made things worse. They didn’t communicate with the FBI about them taking the minors into custody. Then DCS accidentally revealed to the girls that Christine was the informant AND the girls were kidnapped while in DCS’s custody.
After listening to the show, I had to watch the documentary. The rage simmering inside of me is a living thing.
🤣 I didn’t have trim on my walls when I was going through my dissertation 🤣 it’s true. I was not ok
Yo, you got trim money? What about carpet in the bathroom money?
'Mumbly stubby little nothing' and 'Fat little popcorn fart of a person'. That paints such a portrait! I love you guys so much!!!!
Popcorn fart! 🤣🤣🤣
I’m here for the free trim. Need about 100 board ft of 1x5 pine. I prefer the knotty stuff
So i just finished watching before listening to this. And not even 15 min in the whole time I just thought this guy (Samuel) is just a nerd.
I thought Samuel was special needs. He seriously seems like a child. He never finishes a sentence or makes any sense at all.
I dont have plaster on half my roof and definitely no trim 🙃
I watched the documentary earlier after listening to this episode. I'm surprised that James and Jimmie didn't talk about the moment where Sam is holding and kissing a swaddled infant. But he's not just kissing the child, he's holding the baby up, kissing them on the mouth and there's just this look of (what I can only describe as) ecstasy on his face. It's just a moment but the complete pleasure on his face in that moment is so utterly disturbing. I cannot believe he didn't get life in prison. If he's ever let out of prison, he'll do this again. And possibly worse. His comment about not taking pictures with the young girls because "that's how they caught up with Warren Jeffs" let's you know that he knows what he was doing was wrong.
BRB. Haven’t seen it I’m Back wow
Looks like the Trust Me podcast has 2 episodes with Nomz telling her story
I listened to this and then went and watched the series and now I'm listening to this again. Holy. Fucking. Shit. This was an absolute Trainwreck!
I'm missing Trim!!!!!!!
Omg!!!! Just watched it. The high toes of the whole thing is when Christine asked the chihuahua what to wear to take down a pedophile. That is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard
I love you guys, but also .... My husband died like 3/4 of the way through the remodel of our house and I definitely don't have trim..... 😂 I don't even know if it exists in the garage or something.... So if you're giving out money for home repairs, I'm your girl!! 😂😂😭😭😭😭😭
I'm so sorry. 🫂
Thanks guys, I really needed the laughs today 😂😂
“God hates this man” literally just made me do a spit take. 😂
I dont have trim!!!
Hiiii! We tore our trim down before we had a baby….. 3.5 years ago. Then life happened, SOS #trimmoney
All I could focus on was how Sam looked like human Shrek! 😂
It was spoken. Many will come in my name as false prophets and do harm.
This was SO much more disturbing to watch than a lot of similar documentaries, due to so much first hand footage showing what these women were really like with Sam. So glad they were able to take him down! Also - did James actually take up bowling as a hobby, or was it simply a hobby suggestion? 🤪🎳
My mother-in-law has been slowly remodeling for 10 years. She still doesn't have trim. Does that count?
There's also one series called THE UNCHOSEN, I can't remember which channel Netflix or Paramount
Honestly, I could use trim money unironically 🤣🤣
I assumed that jacket was a Tony Alamo creation for sure. One cult leader honoring another cult leader
Sam WISHES he could have an Alamo jacket! 🤣
I just looked up Moron’I. I thought it was Jimmy Carr at first 😂
Great episode! Love you guys!
Hey, I can definitely see light from my front door. 😒 Wtf
I am glad you covered this because I knew there was no way I could sit through the show. Absolutely infuriating that these men got away with this for so long
I feel like "I can't believe these men got away with this for so long" should be the title of every textbook on American history
I left my first husband when I realized the Big Dream House we were going to build would never have outlet face plates and NO TRIM ANYWHERE! Fast forward to now - I am happily remarried and word from the kids is the Big Dream House is still missing face plates and HAS NO TRIM!!! I came out ahead in the end
Sometimes--maybe all the time--the trim is NOT the issue
I’m from Northern Ireland in the Uk… We use religion as an excuse to fight and kill each other… What the fuck is going on with religion over there!! 😳🤯🤣
Americans' favorite thing is when we have dominion over another/others. Offing them is too simple...we gotta control them forever instead. See: Colonization Slavery Religion Billionaires
I’m glad y’all did this episode because I wasn’t gonna watch that doc. To the guys’ point, it’s 2026; I’m not gonna keep watching people sign up for this religion and get abused. The story is always the same.
It's ALWAYS the same.
“Heavenly father didn’t even give him the ability to run” 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think I watched this Oompa Loompa hop them rocks 20 times, laughing my ass off. 🤣
I couldn't wait for the dirt bike part lol my 14 yo daughter has the race version of that bike she says the air cooled one is too slow lol
This was so awful to watch! The trailer full of brainwashed minors was disturbing 😳 Him watching / participating in the s.abuse deserves endless beatings! 💔
Only 13minutes in so far and can't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂
The mispronouciation of orgasm reminds me of biology class and we were taken turns reading aloud and a friend kept saying orgasm instead of of organism. Once she realised from all the sniggers she went SO red and just wanted to disappear into the desk.
Yes it was a very disturbing one. I cannot believe it took so much for the authorities to start to look into it.
I agree with it being creepy when the girls started singing in their group hug dressed in their 1880’s outfits.
Ewwww.
Nomz is on tik tok and is doing great. Other ladies are on there too
I feel attacked 😅 I have no trim... I ran out of reno dollars
How could J&J talk about the Murdaughs in a unique way?
Hey man, it's that man's prerogative to look like an ass wearing that headset.
This ep wasn’t long enough, I could listen to James and Jimmie talk shit about Sam for hours 😂😂😂😂
Watching the doc now. What the fuck is with the hair? I spelled out wtf because this is some grade a shenanigans. Mind if I come in your beehive, baby?
It was the weird French braid poofs that got me. Only on Planet Sam could those 'do's be considered attractive
One thing I never see discussed is the level of ideological capture of all the law enforcement orgs in Utah. The cops, DAs, Judges, politicians, teachers, all are Mormon and some of them are responsible for being the "church police" as well as the secular police. But there's no secrets, they all know what's going on with these sects but don't prosecute until national media gets focused. They would've left FLDS alone if the FBI wasn't involved.
Gross!
I have no trim in my house😂😭😭 I live in a condo on the water that was built in the 60s… my HOA being more expensive than my mortgage each month doesn’t help either. Absurdity
We need the gilgo beach doc next! I need to hear them talk about the wife’s reaction 😂
Y'all did such a good job on this
Christopher M. Nemelka was the scum bag that tricked Christine Marie into believing he was a prophet. He also has a connection to Nicholas Rossi if you want to go down the weird Utah rabbit hole.
Ewwwwwwww...Rossi is one I cannot stomach.
The footage of the guy showing off because can can amble up a canyon quickly is worth watching the show on its own.
What is super crazy is that Nomz became suspicious of Christine and tried to tell Sam but he told her to shut up. If he had listened , he probably would have gotten away with things for much longer. Seeing how devoted she was with Sam, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone look at someone like that. I’m so glad she woke up and is living her best life.
Anyone else think that Nomz pupils were so dilated due to potential SSRIs? Or something adjacent? (It makes sense of so, im just making assumptions)
I’m 20 minutes in and still confused because you jumped right in like we all knew the story already.
I definitely wish this could a 2 parter!
Yes! I saw the scratches on the glasses too. I thought the same as you!
I have to say, I was so upset and confused about Nomz's unwavering commitment to Sam throughout the entire documentary (I've never been in a cult or felt that kind of susceptibility so I couldn't understand), but was SO HAPPY when she snapped out of the mindset. She's such a good leader and seemed so strong even when she was blinded by her devotion - out of everyone, I was so relieved when she like... woke up.
Nomz has a TikTok and made a video explaining that Sam bought the white leather jacket for $60 from a “trashy online store” and then told the girls to tell Christine and Tolga that it cost $15k. She’s truly out here spilling all his secrets and living her best life.
There’s a podcast called Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Beliefs, and Manipulation that’s hosted by her daughter. The first episode, she interviews her mom and it’s fascinating. I highly recommend it. Thank you for covering this!!!
Not to be political but MAGAMAGAMAGAMAGA
Yay!!! I feel like last year we also got a Mother’s Day bonus drop. Thank you James and Jimmie!
It's so crazy, the older woman have giant pictures of Warren Jeff's in their house. They're complaining about him marriad to underage girls. Kristine kinda seems still Morman. I think she's on an episode of Deadly Devotion. She was tricked and robbed by a fake Morman guy. It's all so gross, I spite watched it just to know what's going on.
I really needed these laughs this week. THANKS you guys ♥️
I felt like I was watching an overgrown 8 year old doing parkour for the first time. 🤦♀️ idiot
I…… haven’t had trim in years. It’s so expensive. Should I send some photos in the chat? Hahaha. You can just push open my front door because there isn’t any trim to hold the door latch……..
And the reason he got divorced was because he wanted to marry his own daughter! The ex-wife luckily refused and left him taking all the kids with her.
Did anyone else notice how filthy the little girls' mouths were when they were yelling at the FBI? That's not Biblical language!
I need trim! Lol
The way james just pulled out every saved by the bell character in an instant 🤣
This episode is hilarious. I watched the documentary so everything they are saying is making me laugh so hard I have tears
Those cops are 100% complicit in those crimes simply for refusing to do anything right away. Wonder how many bribes they were taking from that scumbag.
I bet 97% of law enforcement in that area ARE FLDS
A popcorn fart had me dying 😂😂
Is installation included with the trim? 🥲
Y'all got any of that er... *scratches neck* trim money?
Netflix made a conscious decision to AI the minors' faces, in an effort to humanize them, as it can be easy to write-off a blurred photo. I didn't like it either, but once I learned why, it helped it make sense. Pronounced BYE-st-line (I know y'all don't care lol). (Nearly) All FLDS use child labor for their construction crews; that's how they are able to underbid most other GCs (contractors) in the area. White jacket fun- Sam told Nomz to tell all the other wives it cost 15k. (It was actually $60.) Sam watched & saw how Warren was taken down, so he was extremely careful not to do any of those things that were used as evidence against Warren, many of which were pix with/of his underage brides. So Sam never took pix/documented his evil deeds on that phone, so there wasn't anything for the feds to find. Midwest Safety (YT) just released an episode of the body cam footage of when Sam & his wives were pulled over in Flagstaff; it's absolutely wild to watch! It's clear that those police in AZ were not trauma-trained in how they approached the situation. They treated all those women & minors as suspects, rather than as victims or cult members. The situation was handled poorly (due to no fault of their own), but it's easy to see how they approached it, while it would make sense in most situations, was the wrong call here. To be fair to the women/girls, the FLDS have good reason to distrust authority (see Short Creek raids, YFZ Ranch raid, etc.). Ofc they hadn't been trained in how to trust outside (the faith's) law enforcement, or what their rights were - they literally are taught gentiles are out to harm & deceive them, so with that lense it's easier to understand the why behind Nomz's behavior when confronted by AZ law enforcement. Ofc they were terrified! Netflix had 300+ hrs of footage to condense to 4 episodes, so much was cut out of necessity, or for content. One of those things was that as punishment, Sam sodomizes (rapes) Moroni in front of his (Moroni's) wives & some of his children. To publicly shame him. It's mentioned only briefly, but Sam was married legally to his 1st wife. She left & divorced Sam (exceptionally rare in the FLDS) after he told her he had a revelation that Heavenly Father commanded him to marry THEIR DAUGHTER. So she took her kids & GTFO. Which cost her everything, but kept her kids safe. That's a really big part of why Sam was ostracized from his own whackadoodle FLDS community.
Christine Marie tells her story on the YT channel Cults to Consciousness, & Shelise also interviewed Nomz (Naomi) now that she's finished her sentence in federal prison for kidnapping. I'd highly recommend both episodes, along with ones done by Amanda Rae (another Mormon cult splinter group escapee). And Tolga is Turkish. ❤️
I live Cults to Consciousness! I think I went to that channel as soon as I heard about this documentary to see is Shalise had done any interviews. I don't have Netflix so I thought I'd find out something, but I haven't had time to watch yet.
In the black community slang “Trim”. I’m laughing so hard the whole time you guys repeat it. 😜
Of course there's a junior.
I cannot believe how much you guys covered in an hour and 18 minutes, you are amazing! Thank you so much!! ❤️
I wish I could post a photo on this, I don’t have trim on the first floor of my house 😂. There was flooding, so all the baseboards and trim were removed and then never replaced…
Alyssa Grenfell is an ex-Mormon Youtuber who does an excellent job of explaining why the history and doctrine of LDS & FLDS are the perfect pressure cooker for offshoots and abusive groups. One of the central beliefs is the “doctrine of personal revelation”, the belief that God continues to speak directly to them through a living prophet. This basically means anyone can say they've received a new commandment and creates a "revolving door" for authority and offshoot groups. Christine's abuse is an example of how this doesn't just happen in the FLDS, she was in the mainstream Mormon religion.
Can confirm (post-Mo here) & also 2nd Alyssa. Check out the Timesuck episode of Beaver Island, & the Strangeites (another offshoot of Mormon fundamentalism). It's across all religions, organizations, groups & governments. Anywhere where there are people with power, inevitably there will be people using that power to be vile human beings.
My husband was listening to this in the other room and halfway through, he was like "wait. Is this covering the Netflix documentary we watched a couple weeks ago?" Yes babe. Yes. 🤣🤣 great episode guys! Was hoping you'd cover it (Also if you do Prisoner Dating Game soon, that'd be amazing. Thanks!)
Gonna skip this one. I could not care less about the most recent LDS kid diddler.
🙌 we won!! Great take on a really crazy story. It is so crazy that people have to find someone to follow. That they can't think for themselves. And I'm proud of that mother, but I wish she would've spoken up and done something sooner.
Ready for a Orgazam😂
Ngl, that whole thing put me off orgazams for a minute.
I watched about 20 minutes of the doc and I had to turn it off. But I’m glad I got to see this guy and appreciate the guys making fun of him 😂
They don’t finish the houses so they don’t have to pay taxes. It’s on purpose.
"Bleeding the Beast," it's called. Yes, very intentional. Not by all FLDS, but absolutely intentionally by their leaders.
Do D4VD !!
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Was expecting Internet Salad…but actually even more excited for this one! Oh man, I can’t wait 😁
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I'M SO STOKED FOR THIS TRAINWRECK!
I watched this whole thing just because you were doing this bonus episode. I’m sure it’s going to be worth it.
ME TOO
