Worse Than Murder - Starkville, Mississippi
This week, in Starkville, Mississippi, a marriage that has a lot of bumps, along the way, including one of the children not actually belonging to the husband, explodes in violence, and terrible excuses. Even an appearence on the talk show "Montell Williams" couldn't solve their problems, but a murder ends everything. All signs point to the wife, but she blames it on her teen brother, and the prosecution blames them both, even claiming a strange, incestuous relationship between the siblings! Does the truth ever come out??
Along the way, we find out that no town should attach the word "Vegas" to their name, and expect us to believe it, that daytime talk shows may not be the best alternative to marriage counseling, and that you can only blame so much on others, before you start to look ridiculous!!
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Comments (98)
Where are we at? Have we just discovered fire for the first time or what…well it seems like it after this horrible incident and story! It’s like when fire goes out and disappears we find it again and go like: “-WOOOAH, what’s this…we shall name it……FIRE!” People are just plain dumb, so sad it’s our kids and other minorities that too often has to pay the biggest price n take the hardest punches at the end. The conclusion and definition of stupidity in mankind remains unchanged after all. Step in the same hole every time but in some hope of getting a different outcome. What a sad, sad story but thank you guys for all your hard work! Love ya!
I know this isn’t the point, but no teenagers in your hit squad! I learned that like 493 episodes of CIS ago!
Starkvegas was coined by LSU baseball coach Skip Bertman in the 80s. He's from Miami. He had no love for the dumpy little town.
I screamed and clapped in my car when I heard that he was found not guilty.
Jim Cornette would love that this one from Starkville
It always upsets me when courts dismiss social workers as qualified clinical psychological assessors. 😭 we literally are licensed to do so
Jimmie's Katie Porter's whiteboard reference was fantastic !!
These prosecutors and lawmakers are absolutely ridiculous. He’s a child. He never should have been charged because the police wouldn’t let his mother be with him…which is REQUIRED. The US is just so corrupt and stupid with crime and prosecution. Add in Mississippi and you reach a spectacular level of stupidity never achieved before. And that medical examiner testimony and the pathetic smiling judge just go to show how the case was fixed from the beginning.
One of my brothers had blonde hair when he was little, lost it around 11 or so like Jimmie. Now he has dark brown hair like everyone else in the family.
It’s scary how logical that is
I can't stop yelling "You fucking inbred hicks!" Throughout this entire episode
“Starkvegas” might actually be referring to Las Vegas, New Mexico, a terrible dump of a town. That would fit.
I love when Jimmie does math, like calculating how long 13 year old Tyler might be in prison if he’s not eligible for parole until age 65. Let’s see, 65 — 13 = 42? Once again, James corrects Jimmie very gently, “no it’s 52.”
Jimmy I adore you. You ask questions I never would think to ask, but need to know. Does he still have both legs? 😂
I have never been so happy to hear it when you announced he was found not guilty! Sounds like Tyler did well… Kristie was a awful human being
Thanks for the spoiler 🙄
155th Armored Brigade of the Mississippi National Guard! DIXIE THUNDER!!! I’ve worked with those guys, pretty good dudes. They scream their motto “Dixie Thunder” all the time and it’s hilarious.
I'm so glad to hear that Tyler has had a successful life since his exoneration. Who knows what horrors he had to endure during the years he was kept in prison as a child. I'm glad his experience didn't break him.
That episode was a 10. The irony of the bible being in the jury room and its effect on her conviction and subsequent reprieve.
Perfect episode you guys! Bravo!
It's easy to question the education system based on these peeps, but their law enforcement and justice department aren't much better
Another great episode! Thanks
I live in Illinois and a lot of times we put Vegas at the end of the town as a dig that it’s a shitty town. Rockford is Rock Vegas because it’s a shit hole.
Wow!! You both are both amazing
She was the WORST! I was terrified that kid was going to be in jail forever. A great episode - one of the best! Thanks Boys!
Their engineering department has a lot of duct tape! I'm dying! Jimmy you crack me up man
I used to cook at waffle house and we were slow one day. A lady came in and then a man. They were talking for a while and just drinking coffee. The server happened to walk up and check on them just as the woman asked the man for a divorce. It was hella awkward she said. We had a other couple that just ordered and the man's phone went off. She got mad and started yelling at him asking who it was. He ignored her and unlocked his phone so she snatched it and ran to the bathroom. He asked of he can get the food Togo cause she wa about to come out of there swinging when she read the texts. Had a lady beat up her boyfriend with a bag full of Togo food at 3am. Had a other one that found her boyfriend with another girl and tried to run them over when they walked to his car. There were so many more stories I could fill a book. Waffle house is the place for domestic disputes.
Waffle House is where you can get great comfort food and see a show for free if you're lucky.
Another great great show. I so appreciate your research. Awesome!
James is thinking of the Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase and his son Ted Dibiase...Jr. whose case is currently on trial I believe after he attempted mistrial its a Crime in Sports currently bubbling to perfection.
I live in Walmartville and yes, kids did skip school to go to Walmart. When Walmarts were 24/7, kids would go just to hang out and goof off.
WTF is the matter with these good old boy law and judges
Montel Williams is former VP Kamala Harris ex.
It was the Temptations that sang Ain't to Proud to Beg. Jimmie you are correct that TLC also had a different song with the same title.
For profit incarceration needs to end. Along with for profit health insurance. For you young uns, it hasn’t always been this way, and it was a better system, in both cases, before.
Paternal reveal or smoking? 🤣🤣
The book “The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist” is a fascinating book about Steven Hayne and his credentials, or lack thereof. He’s evil.
"Imagine going to Northern Mississippi for higher education " Jimmie cackles. We love you Jimmie!
Listening to this as I get ready for my 2:30AM Friday shift 😭😭😭😭 I agree, weird
Redacted tits, is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
Jail acne vs public school acne GOT MEEEEEE 😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Yayyyyyyyy
Idk about you all, but after hearing Tyler was found not guilty after his appeal, I cried! I cant imagine my 15 yo son in any of these circumstances. Ugh.
Lucky I was working alone while listening to this episode because yes, I teared up a bit lol.
Leg cancer may be a type of bone cancer called Osteosarcoma. Often, its found in the long bones (arms, legs). But what an episode, gentlemen. Holy cow. I hope Tyler is living his best life and his sister can go fvck herself.
As a Kristi, I'm getting real tired of other Kristi's horrible behavior towards dogs
As someone named Karen, I understand how you feel.
Man people suck
I’m so excited—Can’t wait to listen. Whole family are Miss State fans 😂
I yelled YES!!! When Tyler was found not guilty. 🤣
I was holding my breath, and I let it all out when I heard the "not guilty"!
I screamed YES! when he was found not guilty! I also teared up a little too because I was so happy he finally got what he deserved, his freedom. No child deserves what he went through. CHILDREN SHOULD HAVE A MANDATORY LAWYER WHEN THEY ARE ARRESTED!
My oldest will be 13 this year and he's definitely a "10" 13. This made me so sad.
Yes! My youngest will be 13 in September. He loves video games, watching other people play video games on YouTube, and fishing in the neighborhood ditch with his friends. I still have to fight him to shower and brush his teeth 😭 he’s a BABY! Literally wears a youth medium and is like 75 pounds…. Not even a hint of puberty yet. It’s just unfathomable
The intro to this episode was hilarious because I have several engineering coworkers who graduated from Mississippi State😂😂😂.
The bible he left was the swear in bible
It's a passive aggressive move baliff's do sometimes.
This is depressing as fuck!!!
It is entirely possible for teens to have idiopathic (no known cause) hypertension. My nephew was diagnosed with it when he was 17. Of course he stopped taking his meds when he moved out, but he's no longer my problem
James, did Oliver Diaz write the opinion overturning his conviction?
Date with Dateline covered a bunch of Blood Relatives eps during the pandemic. They all have a creepy crawly critter of the week. I need to look this episode up now.
Comment here if you find it? I love Date with Dateline!
As a mom of a 13 yr old boy… this episode about destroyed me.
I have two sons, 23 and 26, and ouch. A 13 year old boy is a BABY. This one was so, so hard. ❤️
Mississippi is 16th in the nation for education (K-12), if I’m not mistaken. Just a little FYI. 😉
yesss Mississippi has made some huge strides in education in the last decade!
This episode is giving me anxiety.
It's pronounced Koz-Ee-es-co. Holler at me for more Mississippi pronunciations.
Fantastic episode and Jimmies sweater is top notch
Good episode and crazy 5 Stars James and Jimmie
The funny thing is Mississippi surpasses Washington state in education about 18 months ago
Dibiase!!!
The "Kite" system used by the inmates in the "hole" (RHU - restrictive housing unit, bucket, the shoe) to pass items or whatever is absolutely insane with the talent used
That just kept getting worse. I was so nervous at the end.
Yeah, that was crazy
This is the only episode of any of their shows that I can’t finish. Maybe in the future but not now. Listening to adults intentionally wrong a child — a child whose rights they were all obligated to protect — is fccking disgusting. How can so many people ignore logic and the fccking law?
Not to spoil the ending but it gets better.
Enjoyed this so much! One of your best! I read that the correctional institute that the poor kid was sent to was shut down. It is now used for adults.
Ain’t to Proud to Beg was a Temptations song
People have even died by the hands of the guards in these places and they do nothing about it, and the cops are so corrupt. My son got railroaded into a plea deal by his public defender, which everybody calls public pretenders cause they don’t do their job they don’t care and this poor kid has to spend life in prison so sad for crime he did not commit.
This episode just really appalls me at the way. The justice system works. My autistic son went to federal prison in Arkansas when he was 35 for a crime that he did not commit. He has the mind of a 14 year-old and is now 40 and out of prison and it is so true that there is no justice in the justice system and the corruption of the government corruption of the prosecutors and this whole story about the forensic pathologist working for the prosecution and the fact that this 13-year-old kid went to a for-profit prison and yes, it is so true that for-profit prisons are the worst. I researched it and everything that James says in this podcast is so true. They should’ve never convicted this kid it makes me so angry.
Sometimes, for a poor, uneducated girl (from Mississippi or really anywhere) sex is the only currency she wields.
Kid you not, Dirty South is the name of a notorious bar here.
Ak-tibba-hay County...try this river, Tchouttabouffa. Add our drawl snd it's a damn mess!
Wait, I was born here, and I’ve always said Ahk-tib-uh-hah county 😳 Am I wrong??
Ok based on comments this will be good. But im still upset I didnt get CIS this week.
I came to the comments here specifically to find out what is going on with that. Before the last episode they clearly said NEXT week is episode 500 and to guess who it is going to be about. You would think they would mention it if they were skipping a week on purpose
Figured the bailiff’s bible was for the, “Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth…” ✋📖 Guess not?!
I’m beyond disgusted about this case. Fuck those cops, judge, pathologist and state officials that not only railroaded that poor kid and keeping that juvenile detention center for profit open. My boyfriend and I couldn’t stop pausing the show to yell our frustrations at each other. If this kid belonged to a rich family he would have gotten off easy but he wasn’t so they threw the book at him. I don’t care what color a person is or their economic status EVERYONE deserves a fair trial period!
They want it to get worse, so they will come back as adults,repeatedly, and continue to make money off of them.
I think Starkvegas has something to do with Mississippi State and Columbus Air Force Base being near each other. soldiers + College students = a good time. I was born there so I may be proof.
Nashville was FUCKING AMAZING. You guys rolled with the shit show like it was part of the show. James, I think your head was about to explode because of how pissed off you were, but you hid it like a fucking professional. Drove all the way from MI to see the show and couldn’t be happier with my time at the Fisher. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication, boys.
Why was James so pissed?? I want the tea ha
Preach James preach. Cunts called Brisbane in Australia "bris-vegas". I fucken hated it. I've never been to las vegas but I'm sure Brisbane isn't anything like it. Love your work guys 😍
Brisbanite here, and that’s all I could think of 😂 BrisVegas baby, pfft. Our casino can barely stay afloat
Joey was such a nice guy.
Thanks for making sure we have a new episode even though James had a mysterious Nashville adventure. 🖤
Wooo! ❤️
