Missed Opportunities
There are a lot of cross-pack missed opportunities in the game. Maxis has historically done a weak job at integrating new features with older packs, and it shows every time a new system gets added in isolation.
I plan to use this post as a running collection of “missed opportunities” mods: small additions that connect systems which should logically interact, but don’t in the vanilla game.
Starting point: Secrets.
While testing, I ended up dealing with the Scandal system. Since my current save is locked to Royalty and Legacy, I worked around it instead of removing it.
As it stands, secrets can only be discovered by:
purchasing them
witnessing them
or using a limited set of specific objects
That’s a narrow design for something that is fundamentally about hidden information. Occult gameplay, in particular, is completely disconnected from it.
So I went back to basics and built the first two mods in this series around that gap.
These mods require the Core Library
Scry For Secrets
(Realm of Magic + Royalty&Legacy - Requires Life&Death for the animation)
Strange that you can have nobility, royalty… even frogs... yet no evil witches.
This interaction allows Spellcasters to uncover hidden secrets by scrying through a mirror.
Unlocked with the Knowledge is Power perk.
Beware: those afflicted by Scrambled Spells curse may not like what answers back.
Extract Secrets
(Vampires + Royalty&Legacy)
Vampires excel at bending minds to their will. Now, they can pry hidden secrets from other Sims.
Unlocked with the Mesmerize power.
Be warned: forcing a mind can have consequences.
Consult the Dead for Secrets
(Paranormal + Royalty&Legacy)
The dead can be persuaded to reveal secrets... but not on command. Unlike other methods, you can’t choose the Sim whose secrets are uncovered. The spirits decide who to speak about.
Unlocks at Medium Skill Level 4, or always available to Necromancers.
A Little Bird Told Me...
(Cottage Living + Royalty&Legacy + Enchanted by Nature [Optional])
Birds observe more than they let on, quietly listening and carrying secrets across the world. Those who earn their trust, or know how to truly listen, can take advantage of their reach.
Unlocks by befriending the birds, or always available to Fairies with the Fairy Insight perk.
Scan Mind for Secrets and Erase Secrets from Sims Timeline
(Get To Work + Royalty&Legacy)
This one took longer than expected.
Aliens are one of the most underdeveloped occults in the game, so I gave them the strongest tools in this series so far.
They can now:
Probe a Sim’s mind for secrets
Erase secrets from a Sim’s timeline
On top of that, if another Sim knows they’re dealing with an alien and has a friendly relationship, they can ask them to erase a secret directly.
All interactions added by this mod are grouped under a custom Alien category for clarity. I plan to move EA’s existing alien interactions there as well in a separate package.
The only exception is Ask to Erase Secret, which is placed under Friendly > Gossip.
WIP: I got annoyed by something else while testing with aliens, so it's something unrelated.
Comments (36)
Am I doing this right? We have to download each one by one
have all these been updated for the latest patch?
Thank you
I love your work, i am a big fan :)
I do not own 2 packs. Life and Death and Royalty and Legacy. Now I want Royalty and Legacy! Please do more of these cross pack mods! I swear, this game could be so much more if EA had just put a little more into gameplay and with your mods, it's possible! TY!
Zero is always making it make sense. These are great
Oh Zero... I love you so much!!! Thanks for all!!!! Greetings from Argentina!
Awesome!!!
This is unrelated, but is it possible for you to update your Assign NPC's mod to Royalty & Legacy?
Its always such a letdown when EA just doesnt want to integrate older stuff into the game. Thank you for this!
i thought it was strange spellcasters couldnt turn royalty into frogs. unless i just missed it which i guess is likely because im stupid. i like the way one of these says a little bird told me. thats a funny name that makes sense
Messing with the frog is on my list but where is it?
this is amazing! thank you for all your great work you truly make the game so fun
Thank you SO much! Your mods are always amazing
You will be the reason I decide to move my version lock from 1.119 to 1.122(or whatever the hell we are at now)
These are great ideas. Any plans for creating new secrets?
There is a new one already in the vampire package. I wouldn't go around advertising having added new SECRETS now, would I?
Love your work. Thanks so much!
stop omg all of your mods are so interesting, my mods folder is gonna be bloated 😭😭 your ideas are so good!!
Pro tip: you can merge my mods cause they have no scripts.
Thank you for doing their work like always. EA doesn't even let the secrets function properly, countless nonsensical bugs about it; random witness, triggering secret when there none, scandal disappearing, scandal time prolonging, etc. Also poorly designed mechanics: secret child only valid for 7 days. After that, you can romance ur own parents, good god.
I only had problems with the scandal time prolonging so far, it's because they rely on a commodity. What really annoys me is the permanent visible buff while the scandal is active (that I already tweaked by the way, I'll eventually release it) it's like they think the players are so dumb that everything has to be permanently visible in the UI, as if there isn't a visual reference on the notebook, in the relationship panel and from the stupid balloon.
This is great! I am so glad we have people working on cool things to make the game better when EA completely drops the ball. Thank you.
Yeeees!!!!
Aliens, and Mind read :)
doing the lords work
I love these! I am still waiting under the flirtation menu to offer to buy a drink/ask to buy a drink. That definitely should have come with city living, imo.
if you wanted to include werewolves or fairies, werewolves could intimidate for secrets & fairies could hypnotize/put someone in a trance for them? maybe something similar for mermaids/sirens
I have plans for the fairies, not sure about the others
Oh my God yes ! One I've been wanting for a long is raising bugs from OR like you can in AW ... Also we can have famous pets but not take pets to a spa for a spa day!
If you haven't heard it today...you are awesome!! Love this idea!!!
I love this Zero, you are a genius!!! 💜
what about for rent secrets- it would make sense for secrets to be discovered in the same ways and times as scandals and scandles to be discovered the same way as secrets
I've never encountered those... we'll see when the game forces me to engage in that feature
Oh! That’s great!!thank you!
this is AMAZING.
