Eddington Movie Night (Premium E299)

Alien Resurrection is fun as fuck y'all and has Ron Perlman and Michael Wincott!

Watched this movie on max. This is the don't look up/leave the earth behind/civil war type of thing that tries too hard to seem like it says something significant but never really does. Even worse, it's just boring.

Relistening to this in preparation of watching this movie on Max

Ignoring any notions of authorial intent, I think the best reading of the Antifa super soldiers aspect of the plot is laid out here, a nod to American Years of Lead, Strategy of Tension type stuff: https://parapowermapper.substack.com/p/eddington-conspiracy-cork-board-an

I think people are being generous to Aster saying the “antifa super soldiers” were “obviously” hired by the data Center. I think there could have been more time dedicated to at least leading to that. And of course I don’t mean it needs to be explicit, but to me it felt like putting a jigsaw piece in the right place but not having any of the surrounding pieces. But even if I let that go and say sure - the data centre. The synopsis of the movie implies “pitting neighbour against neighbours”. It would have been interesting to explore the community more, but actually the final third is committed to just random faceless people from out of town?

Please consider taking a look at amazon's War of the Worlds for the next movie night, the whole film is so incredibly cooked.

Hard to hear this criticism of this movie when I feel like it was the best crack at conspiracism in america we have ever had in a work of fiction. When I left the theater I was really impressed. There was no mention of the data center hiring the “antifa super soldiers”

Hard disagree but I love this podcast more than any podcast and all the hosts equally okay so pls Julian be not sad and mad. Makes me sad. Also the super soldiers were tech hires it was canon but. Anyway Liv Agar.

I loved the transition from pathetic to paranoid. It was a great satire of self-righteousness. To me, the movie demonstrates what happens when each side’s caricatured fever dream of the other manifests in the world

It's so crazy and so typical that the conspiracy theorists HAVE MK Ultra! They "won" that one, it was real, it was crazy, it was fucked up and incredibly unethical. But NOOO! That's not good enough! They still have to play make-believe. Like with Epstein. Real is no fun.

It might be one of the A.I penises that they're doing nowadays.

I must agree with Jake—for the story to be germane, the sheriff should have died, but I would make it due Asthma complicated by the Covid. Then his wife would run for mayor, exploiting his death and even going deeper down the rabbit hole. At the near end, I would have her mother die from COVID, yet she still refuses to acknowledge its relevance as her world begins to crumble all around her.

“I was given moonshine by a guy who said he was Palladian!” Yeah, who hasn’t? That’s just called being Appalachian-adjacent.

The majority of the comments critiquing this episode and Julian are very fair, and I say that as a film snob and Julian being my #1 (of the og’s, besides liv of course) .. I largely agree with Julian’s takes on eggars/lanthimos (although dogtooth and sacred deer were plus films) but believe Astor is better than them and that his “Influence wearing” and not so subtle audience winking is intentional and what makes him one of the better modern directors in that he’s not afraid to both go hard and be “2025 and a bit lame about it”. Im saying I think he understands we live in the lamest time ever and to not add a bit of that lameness in this moment is disingenuous. Also, his first two films with a budget are in one of the toughest categories to do well: higher brow/zero campiness horror films. I mean come the fuck on dude hereditary is a pretty masterful first attempt at making a horror movie, and midsomar when it came out was a great follow up that showed growth and was commendable in its weirdness while also maintaining the mainstream… this guy makes movies that my coworkers know about, it’s not fair to hold him up next to European avant greats…. It’s fair to be hard on film makers, but this guy deserves his flowers and I think Jules was absolutely too hard in his critiques passing into a realm I’m familiar with….. “I’m talking about movies in front of my friends and everyone is obviously annoyed as I’ve made my point twice already and am about to make it again” territory. It’s okay, we all fall in this trap, but it’s fair to say if you’re gonna go there, you atleast should have seen the actual movie and not a fucking shitty rip on your cell phone. That’s pretty weak and you owe more to the film than that. Greg turkington would be very disappointed. Send me the qaa address and I will have him mail a quality VHS copy and yall can retake this episode

Emma Stone looks like she eats her own boogers and smells like pee

"There's no art about the Spanish Flu" Jesus Christ, guys. You need to read Pale Horse, Pale Rider by Katherine Ann Porter. I read it while on lockdown in China with my newborn (yep, that was my pandemic experience) and the portrayal of both the first world war and the Spanish Flu have stayed with me forever. "No more war, no more plague, only the dazed silence that follows the ceasing of the heavy guns; noiseless houses with the shades drawn, empty streets, the dead cold light of tomorrow. Now there would be time for everything." I dare you to say that didn't nail March 2020

Rare miss on this episode. Julian acting like a movie snob and missing the very basic premise of the riots and “antifa” super soldiers being part of the corporate data centers plan to take control of the town really shows how he already had his mind made up about the movie before seeing it. Not sure if it’s because Ari Aster is the director but there is clearly something up Julian’s ass over this one. I also think your guys interpretation of Ari Aster being more “hard” on libs than maga people is a misinterpretation of what was being portrayed.

I just remembered you guys had no problem going to see Sound of Freedom in theaters to review it. Weird. Why not just wait until you’re all available to see this one in theaters?

I feel like the commenters missed some depth to the portrayal of the protesters, which is that they're inarticulate because they're kids, some are insincere and doing it for the wrong reasons and pivot to grifters, they're unfairly maligned and false flagged, but also they're fundamentally correct. Listening to the ep now, hopefully the hosts don't have the same shallow interpretation

The diversity of comments here, the depth, the shallows, all point to a thriving QAA community. Cam rip or no, this episode is the sunken ship that creates its own unique ecosystem. We’re all bottom feeders, but especially Julian.

"Movies? Overrated! I give it six dongs out of 10."

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This movie was amazing. This ep was like 5/10

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait, I am not going to listen to this until I have seen the filum.

The discussion of teenagers during Covid has come up across a couple of episodes now. I graduated high school in 2020 and still went straight into college in the Fall. It was absolutely a fever dream of a life transition. It's reassuring that Travis, Jake, and Julian have empathy for people like me. It can be a demographic of the pandemic that's easy to overlook in light of everything else.

When has Ari Aster literally ever done "it was all a dream"? How is the end of Hereditary that? It's a horror movie about witchcraft lol

I do not understand why quite a few Patreon commenters seem to flat out hate listen to this show, or think about it- and overreact to the hosts on a weirdly personal level- to a degree I find uncomfortable. Anyway. I found this to be a great episode.

Agree with basically everything here. I was so hyped for this movie and it was ultimately pretty lame.

I’ve not seen this or Beau is Afraid, but Hereditary is a masterpiece.

Liv agar

Cam rips are the most proletarian way to watch a movie. I demand that you only watch movies this way for the show or else have your leftist credentials revoked

Yeah I overall agree with this take. Acting was good, cinematography was good (you missed out if you watched a shitty rip), writing was good albeit heavy handed. Agree that as social commentary it veers into South Park territory too often and the antifa ex machina final act is confused and sloppy. Even if we're supposed to clock that the antifa supersoldiers are really mercenaries for the tech company, in a way that's more cartoony and lame than if they were just meant to be a catch all cultural bogeyman. Really couldn't believe I was hearing rattles and flutes etc used to score the scenes with Pueblo characters. I also give it 6.5 Joaquin peens. Is Ari Aster just M. Night Shyamalan for the Trump era?

Are we saying there are no cocks in ship shows?

Just saw this fuckin flick let's go

Julian was hard to listen to here… And it seems like maybe everyone missed the major parodic point that the “antifa super soldiers” were hired agents for the data center (the film opening and closing with the data center - clear framing in satire)

Julian's angry tweets responding to these comments has made me realize this podcast is lacking one key component: Someone to bully Julian as much as Julian bullies Jake. Lovingly of course.

You guys couldn’t shell out $12-$15 a person to see this in a proper theater? Why?

Should be marked E299

Okay,so probably not the best review of not the best movie but still great to hear you guys getting along and having a good time. Respect to Ghostbusters ! Respect to all ! 🫶

i don't care about stealing from ari aster but this is worthless as a review of the movie. you guys did not watch the movie. you missed the point of the data center entirely. you missed out on one of the best surround sound mixes i have ever heard in a theater. why did i pay money for this episode.

I like QNN better.

6 and half Joaquin penises.

You had me at Jacob's Ladder. My favorite film.

Romana didulo update when?

After all the respect at the end of the episode, just got to dole out some disrespect for Jakes love for The Bike Riders. A film so thin on plot and characterisation it felt like a straight adaptation of one of those air line magazine articles covering a local history topic of the destination you're flying to

Come on guys. Pay for the movie. First off, you guys all have enough money to afford to. Also, it’s a “business expense” so you can claim it on your taxes. Or go to an afternoon matinee and it’s super cheap. There’s really no excuse to do this. You can’t review a movie properly off a bootlegged version, you guys know this. But secondly, and more importantly, respect the creative people and the crew that have put in the time and effort to make an entire movie. You paywall episodes of your podcast. Shit, you guys just made a whole other service that you paywalled. You wouldn’t want everyone ripping off your podcasts.

Man, 'it wasn't realistic' ? did you guys even search the data center name? It opens the fucking movie. Wait... that's right, you guys didn't watch the movie, you watched a trash cam rip. Fkn shit the bed on this review. The white kid trying to get the girl wasn't a leftist or representation of woke, he was harassing the black cop via his ex gf in an effort to cause racial violence to achieve superiority but the sheriff beat him to the punch (also in an effort to achieve superiority). Solidgoldmagikarp. My only reccomended change would be Jonny Greenwood do the score.

This movie sucked. Like, I’m mad at it from a moral standpoint, too, but that’s not what made the writing assshit.

A little disappointed in you guys reviewing this movie after watching a shitty cam rip. It’s hard to take your criticism seriously knowing you watched the film in one of the most distracting, and underwhelming ways possible. The experience of watching this in the theater, fully immersed, not knowing where it was going to go next is one I’m actually kind of sad you guys missed out on. Sorry for being a scold, just thought this was an uncharacteristically misjudged way to review a film like this one. I’ll get over it I’m sure.

Ok so I also thought that it was antifa corporate jet until after the movie my friend that I watched with pointed out the SOLIDGOLDMAGIKARP logo on the jet………..

This sounds like a shitty movie cam version or not

Bootlegged this snot rocket of a movie in hopes to watch it and make sense of this white noise episode. No joke the cam rip is f*cked and the french subtitles are....tres fuqued. Settled for the trailer. 3/10 will wait for non cam rip to bootleg and leave it on some hardrive to watch when the internet stops working for like a month or something. This crap makes me sad for real movies. Oh well, was glad to not hear more blah blah about Epstein or some other horrific detail of reality. Tulsi Gabbard has my vote for a revisit. Some say she has knowledge of the exact location of the Vance sex couch and possibly one of the gloves.

Ngl, Lotta respect lost for making this episode based off a bad cam rip of the movie. That decision is un-sub worthy, really. Gonna not be too reactionary & sit on that for a bit, but this was a really bad idea. Not gonna finish the episode.

Julian going out of his way to consistently sip that hateraide at every turn based on some pretentious bullshit. Maybe spend a buck and see a movies on the big screen, Truffaut.

Also, what’s the opposite of a jump scare for when Julian says he went to Film School and also self outs as being “Cunty”

Almost wrote a novella of a comment, my anxiety got the better of me. Wish they had liked it more, seems like some things just didn’t pop to them as being as obvious as I saw it. But it doesn’t hinder my enjoyment of it. Saw it two days in a row, on second viewing, so much more of the subtle things became clearer and deepened my interest. Have contemplated going for a 3rd time before it disappears from my local theaters. A bit too divisive it would seem for this Northern California haven amongst the redwoods 🤷‍♂️ Ultimately I think any Ari Aster movie is going to be the most enjoyable when going in without any preconceived notions of what will happen or what it means. This particular subject matter makes that nearly impossible, and is bound to cause a prickly reaction from most viewers. I do believe this was his intent and he certainly got it.

What is it they say? “Politics is downstream from culture?” Might be turned on its head these days

And did anyone else spot the Andrei Tarkovsky easter eggs littered throughout this masterpiece?! 😏

I agree, Julian, certainly no Fellini. However I did detect a slight influence of Akira Kurosawa with a sprinkling of Kubrick and a hint of Bergman . Didn't enjoy the excessive touches of Polanski though!!😜

Annie does Tradwives?!? Goddamn, I'm so in.

Alien Resurrection fuckin rocks

Redo the episode!

Sorry I don’t want to be confrontational, but like, please if you’re going to watch a current movie to review it on the show, actually go watch the movie in theaters, instead of watching a cam rip. I think it does both a disservice to the material and impedes your ability to actually engage with it if you’re watching such a fucked up version of it. You can afford to go to the theater, and it’s a small business expense.

What if the cult leader was played by Barry Keoghan 🤔

"Ah yes, the dark heart of the grill pill" I wonder if 8 years ago Travis could have imagined himself uttering this phrase.

The movie is presented as a kind of Rorschach test but the end gives it away. The main theme is big tech and capitalism

it's still the COVID era right now

Speaking of Yorgos Lanthimos (the Greek director whose name Julian can’t remember) I think you might want to take a look at his next movie, a remake of an early 2000s Korean movie about a super pilled guy who kidnaps and tortures the ceo of a company who he believes is an alien sent to earth to destroy it. That also feels very much “of the moment”

So wait. Did the gang completely miss that the ANTIFA super soldiers are mercenaries hired by the data center corporation posing as ANTIFA?? That’s why they were on a private jet with the data center’s logo on it. It’s kind of the whole point of them coming for the Sheriff. Am I crazy cuz that’s what I thought was clearly going on.

Doing a movie podcast off a cam rip is stupid. Just go to the theater.

Liv Agar!!

Eddington was excellent. 10/10 for me. It’s is a brilliant modern satire. I actually expected the fellas to focus on the flaws because they’re so close to the subject matter. What I didn’t expect was the portrayal of the identity politics obsessed kids to strike such a nerve. Pointing out the hollowness of their performative actions wasn’t South Park. Look back on the long list of celebrities who latched onto BLM marches in 2020 and where they are now and tell me there weren’t opportunists all over the place. Anyway great film.

What does Julian think about Gaspar Noe?

I am hoping to see the movie next week. Thanks for the review.

The best movie about Covid was made 9 years before the pandemic. Contagion.

Tossing this one out there. This mostly makes me curious how a movie reflecting on covid might look 10 or 20 years down the line. When the film is being made more for an audience that didn't really live through the pandemic.

They should make a movie about my COVID experience. Riding around drunk on my bike, petting street cats, playing Animal Crossing...sidewalk concerts where the stage was a pickup truck bed...great times.

Much more Curb Your Enthusiasm than South Park, and (imho) it’s supposed to be disassociative and breaking from the narrative because the movie is less about all the pieces of Covid derangement and more of one man’s personal radicalization within a physical and digital ecosystem of rising tensions and constant infection/dissemination. Also, I really doubt Aster hated progressive politics, so much as he was dramatizing the way in which progressives ate away at their own selves in an attempt to center themselves in the historical moment as the young and misguided forces of society, while conservatives ate away at their families and communities to deny that they are controlled by the forces of history/society.

Comparing this movie to anything Fellini has done is pretentious bullshit. If anything, it’s far more Verhoeven. Sorry it doesn’t reflect our melted reality perfectly, and only makes fun of the dumbest sides of it.

Both sides is when one side is murderous and the other is annoying

Bummed they didn’t see it in a theater.

julian is my icon of the european sterotype

I live in NM and this exact same thing happened in my small town (conservative sheriff against liberal mayor and mask situations)

I think the whole movie is about the data center, regardless of whether it’s “inclusive, progressive” big tech or “anti-woke, patriotic” big tech. Think the plane is connected to the data center. I’m from Memphis, TN and that’s led me to believe these bastards are bringing this shit to ruin our communities no matter what.

I lived in a small Texas town during the peak of Covid that skews heavily white, and I don’t think that there were any black people participating for several of the BLM protests we held. It was just the reality of demographics, but as we gained more visibility, we did have a few black people protesting with us.

Imo no one is doing it better than Ari right now and I can't even imagine who is making movies that could please what Julian wants. Ari has said he sees the BLM protesters as closest to him, and as someone who was in those streets in 2020 it's quite accurate to the time

There are penis's everywhere for those with eyes to see them

I’m proud that my first comment is me saying that after being a listener for like 6 years, Jake is surely the greatest and most loving friend to ever exist. We should all aspire to be so.

Julien, I was thinking “I wish Fellini was around to make a film about these times,” about a full minute before you mentioned him. If you’re a pretentious asshole, then so am I.

Someone’s gotta say it- Liv Agar!

Great episode, everyone’s engaged and incisive.

I want to hear the films Julian thinks are brilliant. Modern ones I mean. I'd guess Tár, but still interested!

I loved this movie and can't agree that is has more contempt for liberals than conservatives. I think the "hate" for liberals is a self hatred, liberals can be annoying, self flagellating, and two faced, while conservatives do real harm, murdering multiple people in cold blood including a child. the movie presents it in a way that feels worse for the liberals but that's because we are looking at it from the perspective of a conservative. the actual deeds committed by conservatives in the film are clearly worse than anything liberals do.

me and this episode go together like peanuts and cherries

I am once again begging you for an ep on Eurovision 🙏🏻

Julian is thinking of Yorgos Lanthimos

Pedro Pascal again?

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Love you guys