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The Art of Intelligence with Donald & Elon (E290) (1 of 2)
August 16, 2024

The Art of Intelligence with Donald & Elon (E290)

Donald Trump is advancing novel ways of denying reality. He claimed that an authentic photograph of the crowd at a Harris rally was somehow generated by artificial intelligence. This bizarre claim was a bridge too far for even some ardent Trump supporters. 

The former president also attempted to boost his languishing campaign by publicly chatting with Elon Musk via “X Spaces” on the microblogging platform formerly known as Twitter. Julian listened to the ghoulish conversation in its entirety, nearly sapping his will to podcast.

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SOURCES:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/elon-musk-trump.html

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219121/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x-twitter-crashes

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-02-26/elon-musk-las-vegas-loop-tunnel-has-construction-safety-issues

https://www.californialawreview.org/print/deep-fakes-a-looming-challenge-for-privacy-democracy-and-national-security

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-frontline-interview-jim-dowd/


Comments (104)

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Samantha Chambers · March 14, 2025

Jakes laugh is everything 😂

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callie · December 1, 2024

this aged interestingly

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James Mason · August 30, 2024

Does anyone feel like some of these episodes have just gotten reactionary with very little substance? As mentioned above, the radiation discussion has legit merits. Trump's right to try program allows people like me (dying from an incurable terminal illness) an easier path to trying experimental treatments. I would have appreciated a little more honest discussion about it instead of "lol dying losers want to die faster" or whatever they thought their jokes were saying.

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TacoSnep · August 24, 2024

The Elon high speed transit discourse fired me up - finally writing some of my local reps to push for better transit funding 😤😤

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Anita Bonkit · August 22, 2024

The garage door opener joke is one of the best in QAA history. Julian is so wrong

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Paper Street · August 23, 2024

It was the highlight of this entire episode!

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Cory Waring · August 21, 2024

I remember when The Hodge Twins just talked about sex and they’d always get up in the camera and act they were fucking something/someone. Do they still do this or is it all politics’ bullshit?

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psidew · August 21, 2024

nah it's not a lisp, every twitter space sounds like shit because it's a glorified phone call hosted on a dogshit website

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Charlie · August 23, 2024

He could also be having trouble with his dentures. My grandmother sounded similar when she had issues with hers.

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Samantha Falcon · August 20, 2024

Before listening to this episode, I checked out the merch store link! Swooping in to say that while I don't wear baseball hats, I LOVE that embroidered version of the logo. The current logo is beautiful, but something about that "lineless" version makes me want one real bad. If y'all do another round of merch, a mug or something with that version of the logo would be awesome!

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Schwartz666 · August 20, 2024

Ssufferin' Musskotassh!

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Gregory Moore · August 20, 2024

Pro garage clicker analogy over here

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How may wills will Will Smith smith if Will Smith will smith wills · August 19, 2024

Garage clicker analogy is surprisingly apt. This is actually that.

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Prue · August 19, 2024

Jake go and see the ENT. It has made such a difference to my life. I no longer wake up with a sore thrroat and croaky voice. I had deviated septum and had it sorted along with endoscopic sinus surgery. Of course I do live in Australia and it was free but 100% would pay.

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Tom Stanton · August 18, 2024

Where can I find the song from the autoQ?

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Wayeb · August 18, 2024

Always impressed with how well crew breaks down current events, but the way Jake explained Trump's behavior in this episode was exceptional. The garage door clicker analogy really helped me conceptualize things. Thanks, Jake! You're brilliant.

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Tamara Dean · August 18, 2024

Long time Patreon supporter here — may i suggest a song that i wrote called Elon Musk ? 🥰 My band is Style Shop. It’s out everywhere ✨ My fav line “spending a fortune to buy twitter only to flush it down the shitter” 🥹

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maskington · August 17, 2024

I just saw Leon’s tunnels last month for the first time, they’re lame

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Comrade Cat Lady · August 17, 2024

That is 100% the new dentures lisp and/or the ill-fitting dentures lisp.

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Chloe Showalter · August 18, 2024

Or the “didn’t put in dentures” lisp

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GeorgeDBugge · August 17, 2024

Now I am picturing a Sid & Marty Kroft style song about “Friends going to the ENT together”!

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harpy · August 17, 2024

Team garage door analogy.

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LeftoverSushi · August 17, 2024

Deep cut from An American Tail

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Daniel · August 17, 2024

This is NOT AI, the garage door clicker analogy was perfect.

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TheDeadman · August 17, 2024

I don’t know why I listend to this. I got 2 more podcasts about the interview and I want to clean my ears with a rusty fork whenever I mean Drump or Musk.

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Laura · August 17, 2024

I loved the Hodge twins bit. Sorry, Travis!

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Gabriel · August 17, 2024

God can’t get enough of the garage door clicker joke. Rewound the ep twice

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Paper Street · August 17, 2024

I thought Jake’s garage door clicker analogy was the highlight of this episode. It was the greatest analogy possible for this specific situation!

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John Engelbrecht · August 18, 2024

I agree, i was like I totally get that reference

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Ignatius P · August 17, 2024

I hear more jowly than lispy

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Elsie Hupp · August 17, 2024

The effects of nuclear radiation are somewhat different in reality than in the popular imagination. For instance, Hiroshima and Nagasaki had very little lingering radiation because the bombs had relatively little “fallout”, or contamination by leftover fuel. By contrast, Chernobyl (like Fukushima) wasn’t a nuclear bomb, but rather an uncontrolled release of nuclear fuel. In both cases, most of the effects of the radiation happened within a very short window of time. Even the lingering radioactive contamination from Chernobyl (like Fukushima) is relatively diffuse: most of the exclusion zone is perfectly safe. The problem with the Chernobyl exclusion zone is the pockets of accumulated radioactive contamination, mostly within buildings, which is difficult or impossible to remove. And radioactive contamination other than within buildings is somewhat unpredictably distributed, hence why the entire zone is considered contaminated by default. With Fukushima, it’s also worth noting that the exclusion zone has been reduced in size over time: most of the evacuated areas were subsequently reopened once the immediate danger was gone. In a way, the issues with nuclear power are not dissimilar from the issues with, say, coal power. The biggest difference is that the damage from coal power is constant and gradual, without catastrophic short-term incidents like nuclear meltdowns. Coal power is worse, but coal power is less scary. As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki: as I recall other bombing raids during the war, such as the firebombing of Tokyo, actually killed more civilians on a per-incident basis. The problem with nuclear weapons isn’t that they necessarily kill more people. The problem with nuclear weapons is that they cheapen the slaughter, in that any single attack takes significantly less effort. So the taboo against nuclear weapons is just the taboo against killing civilians, at least the taboo against killing civilians in a way that appears particularly careless. So the issues with nuclear power and nuclear weapons are different in degree, not different in kind, from the issues with their conventional counterparts. The issue with nuclear power and nuclear weapons, then, is that we don’t trust idiots like Elon Musk and Donald Trump to manage them responsibly.

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Samantha · August 17, 2024

Screaming over the toxic sludge song oh my god

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Tyler Gordon · August 17, 2024

Anyone know what it is? I haven't been able to find it online.

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Shane Laing · August 17, 2024

Kill me please. The worst circle jerk ever aired. Elon as trumps sub provides some schadenfreude satisfaction but that's as deep a delve into that conversation I'm up for. Thanks guys.

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Lcfitz · August 17, 2024

The twins bit…so funny. Also anything Jake says is funny and entertaining and you can’t convince me otherwise

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AppliedJest · August 17, 2024

I propose Jake do a deep-dive on Elon Musk’s various projects and promises. He seemed to still be under the delusion that hyperloop is still a thing, which worries me. Now that Julian’s taken psychic damage in listening to that “interview” I think it’s time for Jake to take the baton. Jake’s always been quick to still have hope in and enthusiasm for grand sci-fi solutions exactly like what Musk peddles, so it’s time a literal reality check, I think. Can’t have a single host still capable of childlike wonder and hope. But seriously, he and Travis could do a great piece on the modern sci-fi snake oil salesman and how wealth, intelligence and moral righteousness is thought of as correlated in the US despite all evidence to the contrary.

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Nicholas Maher · August 18, 2024

They should get the True Anon crew on. They did amazing multiple episode deep dive a couple years ago

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Russell Halberdt · August 17, 2024

woohoo! Jake Trump! we love to hear it, don't we folks?

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Spliffy · August 17, 2024

I've never felt worse about the future Deep Dish please have mercy on my anxious soul this is bad

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skrrt vonnegut · August 16, 2024

"Check out our website, where we have the 'i want to beep elon musk and donald trump' hat and hoodie!"

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David D. · August 16, 2024

If Julian and Jake going to specialists together is not the next QAA miniseries, then what are we even doing?

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Leo · August 16, 2024

What is that beautiful song in the auto Q?

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Elsie Hupp · August 17, 2024

“Closing Time” by Semisonic: https://youtu.be/xGytDsqkQY8 (If you’re under age 35 this is “oldies” now lol)

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RiotingPacifist · August 16, 2024

I was Litterally crying at the twins, couldn't even pretend to be working.

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Chris Foss · August 16, 2024

Once again I am writing in to say that I LOVED the Jake garage door analogy. Greatest analogy folks, the rest are AI’d

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J · August 16, 2024

🎶 Toxic Sluuuuuudge 🎶 Excellent episode boys

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Garth Hansen · August 16, 2024

Listening to trump and Elon talk wrecks my vibe

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ASL · August 16, 2024

Trump's lisp sounded like my mother in law when she doesn't have her dentures in. Mark it. Trump wears dentures. You heard it here first folks lol

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Bill Engvall Wilder · August 16, 2024

He’s gotta be rich enough for veneers. Maybe the cause was whatever crazy uppers he’s on.

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Brian J. Lancaster · August 16, 2024

The Chernobyl reactor is totally fine now. Kids play there all the time.

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Neely McCormick · August 16, 2024

Elon is sounding a lot like William F Buckley.

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mysticwerebadger · August 16, 2024

It was a good analogy, Jake!

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Claire · August 16, 2024

Guys I really liked the notebooks. Can you make a new little notebook wit the new cover? Thanks

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Andrew Desforges · August 16, 2024

Julian’s write ins are definitely AI, but I love how unhinged he’s getting.

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Argent You Glad I Didn't Say Banana · August 16, 2024

harrit walg 2024

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Ryan Henson · August 16, 2024

Holy shit, fam. I can't even listen to Trump and Elon talk in the context of making fun of them without my cringe defense mechanisms making me press pause!

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Joan Guenther · August 16, 2024

I have to opine here that Trumph is rich enough to have his bad teeth entirely replaced with implants the biggest whitest and shiniest of implants … or maybe my psyche cannot deal with the thought of thith man thitting around without hith dentures in … I remember the day I realized I was seeing a fat elderly malevolent guy in a Spanx Full Body Suit for Men … thank god I was with a friend who supported me until I got home and climbed back into bed …

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David Moore · August 16, 2024

I actually did really enjoy the garage clicker analogy. Those are called “DIP” switches and imagining trump just clicking the wrong clicker at kamala really work.

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Xpensive Cardboard · August 17, 2024

I'm now imagining Trump showing up to the debate with an acme style remote with a big red button. He see Harris standing opposite him and instantly becomes enraged. He whips out the remote and pushes the button. In true looney toons style the button fails to do anything, so he furiously presses it over and over. All the while the shadow of an anvil slowly grows over Trump ad a whistling noise slowly gets louder.

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CharlieInsomnia · August 16, 2024

People sh*t on Julian, but the man puts in the work and has a solid view of reality, which is rare these days. To listen to those two morons, must’ve been taxing. Much respect.

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Schwartz666 · August 20, 2024

Sir, how dare you call Travis and Jake morons!? 😜

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Fuzzy Dunlop · August 16, 2024

The Elon voice you do is great lol

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LeftoverSushi · August 17, 2024

I love how he sounds like Q Jr as well

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Bobby Dubs · August 16, 2024

Jake becoming a fact checker is truly the culmination of his journey through this podcast's lifespan. Cracking episodes chaps.

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ABAYARTS · August 16, 2024

Laughed many times in this episodes. The hodge twins bit was gooood.

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Robert Hostert · August 16, 2024

Garage clicker… best analogy of all time. The funniest, most clear most effective analogy

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Schwartz666 · August 20, 2024

Many people are saying this. All the of them, big tough guys with tears in their eyes.

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Hugh Kearney · August 16, 2024

I just did the double-double of the latest Knowledge Fight followed by this episode. So much Trump/Musk. I'm bleeding out of my ears, which do have a lot of bu-lood.

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Jordyn Clementi · August 16, 2024

The most blood out of every human a lot of people don't know this folks. They don't want you to know it's fake news they say other people have blood but it's just ai folks.

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Fuzzert · August 16, 2024

Millions have written in and jake is vindicated! Wveryone thinks about trump as a garage remote! People have been saying!

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Daniel Greene · August 16, 2024

I spent a lot of time just scrolling Facebook recently, weird AI garbage like crab Jesus and such. Dispersed among the absurd and obvious AI imagery was some that may have been real posts by real people. I began to doubt everything after a while. I remember a post about a pink lake in Australia which I immediately flagged as BS (color is due to algae and is real lake). I’m glad Travis pointed this out. The danger that seems to be emerging is that real images/content will be viewed as fake or with suspicion. AI is going to flood the internet with so much garbage we will can’t trust anything anymore.

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Schwartz666 · August 20, 2024

So long misinformation, hello uninformation.

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Ben Schwabe · August 16, 2024

Omg Elon bragging about the Las Vegas loop makes me want to redacted. It's the shittiest people mover in the world. A fleet of golf carts would be better.

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CharlieInsomnia · August 16, 2024

People really believed he was taking humanity to mars.

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Heather B · August 16, 2024

The song at the end is just.. amazing.

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Lee · August 16, 2024

I attended the Harris Walz rally in Philly. The place was packed. Definitely not AI. I suspect robots.

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Fuzzert · August 16, 2024

What about harrit and wald's rally?

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bigphoton · August 16, 2024

I love it. Must and Trump obviously have no clue what the fuck they're talking about. Musk tries to minimize nuclear war using the logic Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked and now they're fine. Each of those two cities were hit by one fission weapon of between 15 and 21 kilotons. In the aftermath the cities were rebuilt by both the Japanese people and the power of the preeminent, undamaged economy of the US. In a modern nuclear war cities would be hit with multiple nukes, of ten to hundreds of times more power than their WWII ancestors. Example= according to a simulation by Princeton University each major population/economic center in the US would be hit with between 5-10 thermonuclear warheads in the event of war. During the peak of the Cold War London, England would have been hit with up to 30. All military bases would be hit, including the 450 ICBM silos in 5 states. Each of those would be hit with ground bursts, thus producing thousands of tons of fallout which would rain down on people to the east. This level of destruction would also include destruction of military and infrastructure targets (dams, factories, powerplants, civilian airports, harbors, etc), thus obliterating a nation's ability to rebuild, even if that nation's allies in a position to help were undamaged, which is doubtful. Nation's such as Japan, South Korea, the UK, and NATO would be targeted because of US bases and treaty obligations. Musk and Trump's comments on nuclear war are meant for their chickpea brained followers. IMO electing competent people, who understand modern warfare, to public office is job one. Electing morons who fuck up the economy, install partisan judges, or devastate safety nets are recoverable mistakes. You can fix those problems. But there is no comming back from nuclear war. It's game over, good night nurse, so long and thanks for all the fish.

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Hanes Leyes · August 16, 2024

Guys, a CPAP will change your life. Highly recommended. Also the song at the end slaps.

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Mr.Crispy * · August 16, 2024

Julian, We salute 🫡 you for saying what we all wanted to scream.🤣🤣 Fuck these people into the sun

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Royce A Murray · August 16, 2024

Mind you wasn't it just a few episodes ago where they were Tisk Tisking , and wagging their finger at someone who said pretty much the same thing with how she wished the bullet would've made it's target

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Michael · August 16, 2024

Being anti-nuclear is so fucking dumb guys, just because it is Elon doesn't mean he is wrong about radiation poisoning not being a major issue with modern nuclear power. Also, Fukushima is barely worse than background now, and it is widely regarded as a mistake to have an entire city uproot their lives, which lowered life expectancy of residents more than the increased background would have.

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John Swan · August 16, 2024

Scientific illiteracy spans the political spectrum. It's like watching a person step onto a rake when some political commentator starts spouting about stuff they don't care that they don't understand.

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Big Rob · August 16, 2024

I literally lol'd when I heard the garage opener joke. So good work!

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HonestEd · August 16, 2024

Saying something then demanding it be beeped out is coward shit. Say it with your chest boy

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Schwartz666 · August 20, 2024

Oh yeah? Lemme know when the "HonestEd wants to kill the President" podcast drops online

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Clean Shirt Piggie · August 16, 2024

Maybe trump didn’t do rallies or leave Florida for a while because he had a tumor removed from his tongue. And the surgery has caused him to lisp. Bake this please boys

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Braonán · August 16, 2024

Fwiw I hate the guy but Elon is fully correct about Fukushima. Even under the pretty conservative LNT model the exposure results in completely undetectable increases in cancer rates.

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Moira · August 16, 2024

Theory is he didn't have his teeth in because it was audio only.

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ASL · August 16, 2024

Definitely no dentures in.

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John T · August 16, 2024

Trump's a dysfunctional garage clicker, 100%

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Brent · August 16, 2024

I got a ceiling fan remote, works the same way

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Dee Loves Ketchup on Eggs · August 16, 2024

Jake! I got the garage clicker joke 🤙

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Kolya · August 16, 2024

Donny should do a rally in Fortnite he could probably get a billion attendees

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Andrew Billings · August 16, 2024

It just shows how QAnon has infected the culture, that a random technical hitch is instantly spun as a malicious deep state action. Occam’s razor is thrown away and everything is blown out of proportion.

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Geraldine Kawabe · August 16, 2024

Occams beard is out of control...

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Mikachu · August 16, 2024

ur always so real julian

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Shiv · August 16, 2024

To me, this older Trump clip sounds like a lesser impersonator vs how I’m used to him sounding now (‘Silence of the Lamb’)

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Shiv · August 16, 2024

wow in this Elon chat he sounds like Sylvester the cat

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Johanna · August 16, 2024

Don't elect him again.

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lady8jane · August 16, 2024

Seriously, the rest of the world is watching this with horror and disbelief.

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Agent Dana Scully · August 16, 2024

I'm sorry boy

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Bryony Shipston · August 16, 2024

Garage clicker is the superior analogy.

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Rylan Visser · August 16, 2024

Gleeb