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November 25, 2021

Radio War Nerd #305 — The First China-US Cold War (Part 3): The KMT-CIA Opium Trafficking Racket

Guest: Carl Zha, podcaster

Recorded: November 19, 2021

In part 3 of our RWN series on the first US-China Cold War, guest Carl Zha of the Silk & Steel podcast recovers the lost history of the US-backed KMT units forced over the border from southern China into northern Burma, where they set up what would become the center of the global heroin trade — with help from Langley.

Listen to Part 1 (EP #301) and Part 2 (EP #303) of RWN's series on The First China-US Cold War.

Check out Carl Zha's podcast Silk & Steel. Follow Carl on Twitter.

Total time: 1:39:34

Direct link to this episode's mp3 here 

Comments (20)

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The Jewish Napoleon · April 15, 2025

You guys should bring back Carl to either do another part of this or on China's currently evolving position!

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Sean Atkinson · January 18, 2022

Wish this were MUCH more widely known.

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xnfec · December 12, 2021

Here is a (very friendly) interview with Steele: https://news.sky.com/story/christopher-steele-confessions-of-a-former-british-spy-on-boris-johnson-vladimir-putin-and-donald-trump-12438095 Quite hilarious really.

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orc · December 9, 2021

Ibis Trilogy is amazing

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Shad Narcher · November 27, 2021

An interesting thought came up when you guys were discussing the economics of opium trade. In colonial possessions, it appears to be a very effective stand-in for sovereignty, i.e. the ability to print money, where none existed.

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Mark Ames · December 2, 2021

That's a great point.

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Dorst Savijeski · November 26, 2021

Off topic: I was just researching the Falklands war, and see a pattern from Alliendes social reforms. The hero syndrome goes strong for stupid people with a job, they best should be demoted.

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Davide Melia · November 25, 2021

My Dehong Dai friend Along told me that Dehong Dai/Shan language is about 50% intelligible with Thai language - some of the other Dai languages, like Xishuangbanna Dai, may be even closer than that. And of course, there's a lot of cultural similarities, like religion. Dai people almost universally adhere to Theravada Buddhism just like the Thai people, except for a (n apparently non-negligible) number of Shan converts to evangelical Christianity in recent years.

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Divad Kong · November 25, 2021

Oh btw I'm sure I'm a dumbass but where do I get the newsletters? I mean it took me about a year to realize I was listening to a pirate feed so..

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a clash of purple · November 25, 2021

I believe they've said if you e-mail them, they can send you the back catalog.

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Divad Kong · November 25, 2021

Yes dude this is my kind of territory.

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Carl Zha · November 25, 2021

I am just here to listen to the bit where my wife watching anime in the background made it into the recording

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Samson · November 28, 2021

what was the anime

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Benjamin Cheney · November 25, 2021

Just outside of Taipei (in the amalgamated “New Taipei City” which is mostly urban but has some extremely rural/wild areas) there’s still a “Little Burma” dating from the late 1950s/early 1960s. No dope peddling there these days though

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Gengeros · November 25, 2021

Can we get a follow up about the Kuomintang Islamic insurgency?

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Henry Nichols · November 25, 2021

Absolutely cannot wait for Carl Zha’s Chinese Civil War series, whenever we will be blessed with it.

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Gengeros · November 25, 2021

Also hoping for Carl Za series of the Manchu invasion of China

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Henry Nichols · November 25, 2021

I’ve been waiting for this

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Brian Rowe · November 25, 2021

So excited to listen to this, putting EVERYTHING else on hold to make time

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SammyG · November 25, 2021

FIRST