[BONUS] Episode K - Eddie Valiant from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, featuring Devon!

While it’s not the same class (what is?) I think the movie of Chip n’ Dale might suit. It has a detective element and covers cartoons from the early eras to the 2000s co-existing with humans

I was just thinking while watching this film that you needed Devon on to appreciate how hot Bob Hoskins is in this movie

The kind of movie to make you think about how racialized American cartoons are in general. The whole white gloves thing is a holdover from minstrel comedy.

Sami Landry mention 🎉🎉🎉

Shoutout to Devon and the Harkness Test reference (two famous Cardiff exports)

A remake of The Long Good Friday where everyone except for Bob Hoskins' character is played by muppets

I also hadn't seen this movie before, and watched it in anticipation of this episode. Roger Rabbit feels like the equal and opposite of Leslie Nielson in nearly every single conceivable way, lol. A liked how the frame rate drops to filming on 2s whenever they were in a toon area. I know that's so the live action people line up with the animation, but it also makes the world feel like animationness is sort of contagious, lol. Personally I like the internet fan canon that the Rabbits are an ace couple. "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." And she literally plays pattycake with the cartoon chaser? It just feels right that they're ace, IMO. Eddie Valiant is the kind of guy to say "I am racist, but..." The thing about only having seen this movie /after/ learning a little bit about the history of animation, racialising all the toons makes you think a while lot about why they all have those specific gloves... The bit about do destroying your soul reminds me of Buu in DBZ, because death was more of a timeout in that show due to the Dragon Balls, so when Buu went to the street life to kill everyone in heaven that fucked me up.

Fun fact about Acme: it’s not one company. Per Chuck Jones’ memoir, Chuck Amuck, companies in the 1940s-50s had to have actual words in their names if they wanted to be listed in the phone book. If you sold hang-gliders or Batman outfits or whatnot, you couldn’t call yourself AAA Hang-gliders. The first word you were allowed to use was Acme. The gag was that the coyote was simply picking the first listing in the phone book for anything and everything he ordered. If he wanted a hang-glider, explosives, or whatever, he flipped to the explosives section of the book, for example, and the first listing always started with Acme. And, of course, companies that stick Acme at the top of their name, so they’ll be listed first, tend to have inferior products, which is why the things he ordered always exploded or otherwise failed in spectacular fashion. It’s even period-appropriate for Marvin Acme to call his novelty joke shop the Acme Corporation in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. He probably changed his name to Acme, just like Nathan Huffheinz changed his name to Nathan Arizona because nobody would buy unpainted furniture from Unpainted Huffheinz. In fact, the first couple of Road Runner cartoons had the coyote using things from different companies. It wasn’t always Acme this or that. Everything coming from an “Acme” store was one of the rules Jones developed after his one-and-done “chase satire” cartoon became a hit. Chuck Jones really hated Tom & Jerry style chase cartoons.

I think it would be cool to start using other alphabets like greek, cyrillic, devanagari once you run out of latin letters.

I think you can only see a dying toon's soul if it's funny. Being dissolved in acid just isn't funny

Honestly, considering the racially charged history of cartoons back in the 30s and 40s, it is very interesting to try and explicitly do “toons are black”. Like, they meant that back then too, but in an EXTREMELY malicious way.

My question is the same as the Cars-verse: How did the World Wars happen here

Just wanna say in WA state and I think most if not all US states judges are elected, please comrades vote. Don't just do that, but vote

Can’t wait for the eventual Great Mouse Detective/Basil of Baker Street episode

I appreciate you acknowledging not only the T4T of it all, but also that Bob Hoskins is absolutely hot (c.f. the male henchman body type https://www.tumblr.com/adamsmasher/750306207688949760)

So, for World of Darkness Toontown, might I suggest Changeling: The Dreaming?

*bows*

my older cousin put this movie on at a family reunion when i was a bit under ten and after the first 20 minutes my mom came in and made us turn it off because it was too lewd for a young mormon boy to be seeing. to this day that twenty minutes is all of this film i have seen

Bob Hoskins was Badger in Wind in the Willows too, famously a neighbour of the weasels - I do wonder how the weasels influenced his infamous portrayal of Mario Mario though

Episode "L" set-up: Death Note (anime)

Teenage me saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit first-run multiple times in the theater on the biggest screen at Century 22, which was across the street from the Winchester Mystery House. They shared a parking lot. My memory refuses to tell me if I saw WFRR opening day. Two scenes would get spontaneous applause: 1) Roger flipping through the patty cake pictures, and 2) the "you do/you don't" want a drink exchange. Best part, especially with the patty cake pictures scene, was feeling the audience realize what was happening and break into applause.

Just sitting down to watch it again. I love how tooney the real people are. There are folk that that look like they have stepped straight out of a Norman Rockwell painting and Eddie’s ex is clearly referencing pop art style in her micro polka dot dress

So this probably came up in research and got cut but this movie was based very VERY loosely on a 1981 novel named Who Censored Roger Rabbit? by Gary K. Wolf, which is almost nothing like the movie and is well worth the read. Roger is a comic strip character who speaks in speech bubbles! It's neat!

Apropos of absolutely nothing, it is exceptionally rare for a pair of handcuffs to have unique keys. Most of them just have a single post that you can knock with a toothpick, hairpin, or paperclip. There’s usually a circular gap with a metal post sticking up in the middle, and a notch for the handcuff key. Slide your implement into the notch, and work it around the metal post. On the opposite side of the notch is where you’ll usually find the clicky thing. Push it and the handcuff should unlock. Just in case.

Acme is the supplier for everything used by Wile E Coyote in his pursuit of the Road Runner. Unfortunately, the coyote and roadrunner are NOT in Roger rabbit. But ACME is cartoon canon

I don't want to go on a rant about how Britain's rich systemically devastated the possibility of working class actors like Bob Hoskins ever appearing in the future. But. Um. Yeah. Honestly though what a fucking talent. Can't believe Chris Pratt got cast in his role in the Super Mario Brothers remake.

"You can't have a jazz outro."

There's this unavoidable moment when you start doing critique on cartoons, exemplified here by Lucy when she says "there's a theory that Judge Doom is in fact Pistol Packin' Possum" and is met with a chorus of thoughtful assenting noises. It's important that when this happens you follow the rules of coyote time and don't look down - don't think about how silly you're being, because there -is- juice to be had here, there -is- something important about how a few lines on paper can touch hearts and minds. You just have to reconcile yourself to occasionally saying "what does Mr. Dinky's presence mean for the future of Creepy Route" or local equivalent

OMG! OMG! OMG! I love off of I-70 in Maryland. Whenever I go to Pittsburgh, we have to drive through Breezewood. Every. Single. Time. I drive through it I get in a near-miss accident. It is a cursed place. We call it The Wretched Breezewood, exclusively.

The first couple times I watched this I missed the moment at the beginning of the movie that establishes that he and his brother come from a clowning family, which is INCREDIBLY thematically important and also explains why he can improv a vaudeville act at the end of the movie In the mid-2010s I showed my wife the first five or 10 minutes of Looney tunes back in action and she frowned asked if we could turn it off. Like 10 years later she expressed interest in watching it because we had rewatched the Roger rabbit. Speaking of Wolf of Mungus, if you do a Fables episode you have to point out how extremely and explicitly right wing it is.

Some context from an American: Local judges are elected, but federal judges are nominated by the president and voted on by Congress.

So on the topic of hentai, in the novel this movie is based on, Jessica Rabbit leaves to star in Tijuana Bibles, which were the original rule 34.

The Stargate rewatch comment is entirely too real— I’ve watched X Files front to back at least four times… watch something else? My st4t couple is on screen!

Okay, I'm going to be that person. The short that is being filmed is stylistically more like an MGM Tom and Jerry cartoon, not a Loony Tune. When Eddie is speaking about LA having a great public transit system it's not an alt history joke. LA County had an extensive system of interurban trams in the form of the Red Car and the Blue Car which were two interurban tram companies. When my dad was kid he could ride a tram from Pasadena to Santa Monica. This would have been in the late 1930s to early 1940s. If you want more info on mass transit in LA there's an entire chapter on the rise and fall of it in the book "City of Quartz." Now back to you regularly scheduled programming.

The thing that makes me unsure about the "Judge Doom is Pistol-Packin' Possum" theory is . . . the possum in the poster has the gun and the hat and the red eyes, but his big cartoon gloves are white or light-colored, I think? And Doom's terrifying shape-shifting animated hands are yellow. The yellow paint is even part of the evidence in the Roger frame-up.

We need a Soylent green episode

My first exposure to Bob Hoskins was the excellent 2001 Lost World miniseries on BBC One which was made by the Walking with Dinosaurs/Beasts team, and I choose to believe that when he was acting against the dinosaurs he was actually picturing giant weasels.

Actually if you change the naming scheme to use the letters independently (so AA, AB, . . . BA, BB, . . AAA, AAB ), that makes for 7732 episodes until the KKK episode. which would then be released on the 20th july 2174, so i think you are actually just fine on that front.

"I want to watch Stargate SG-1 for the 18th time instead of watching this good movie." She's so real for this 😔 Side note: I always feel so seen whenever Mia mentions being a fellow Stargate fan. It's one of those classic sci-fi franchises that it feels like got memory-hole'd into oblivion, so hearing it get the occasional mention on BGSC always gets a little cheer from me.

Re: Electing judges in the US -- some states have elected judges and some have appointed judges. California elects them. It was originally meant to be less corrupt than appointing them, but in practice there are numerous issues and if you want to know more, there's a Last Week Tonight episode.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a heist as soon as I heard about the Disney porn archive.

06:00 insane pull of both me and Mia being Swedish trans women who grew up on Looney Tunes: Back In Action (I had the PS2 game too and was obsessed with it!)