Episode 11 - The Nice Guys from The Nice Guys (2016)

Please consider Kiss Kiss Bang Bang for a future episode. As a contemporaneous movie, it has its own set of misogyny-related issues. But as a fellow Nice Guys enjoyer, it hits a lot of the similar notes and is extremely underrated. Same director.

Man I thought being super into menswear pretransition was just a weird me thing! I can't believe its a thing. I've found my people.

They can do laundry at Sven's place. 😉

Is Rorschach from Watchmen a detective?

This movie deserves so many sequels so bad, its such a great film

yall gotta do Scooby Doo

I agree with November up to a point. A Lazy Susan is only for food, but not necessarily cake or patisserie, not sure where that came from. Also I have heard turntable, but generally, I think a revolving platform for a live event is typically called a “revolve”.

Alright, fine, you got me to become a patron. I'm currently financially supporting November on 4 different podcasts.

Little dude laying his pajama shirt over her naked body was such a moment to me. Also the random woman being shot next door at Crowes apartment always gets a big OH FUCK moment if you watch reactor YouTubers. That kind of collateral stuff doesn't happen too often.

Love this movie.

I can inform you that there is one subculture that absolutely adored this movie and did their best to boost it when it came out. Unfortunately, it was people on Tumblr who ship Grunkle Stan Pines from Gravity Falls and Rick Sanchez from Rick & Morty. Not exactly a large or influential bunch, but we were very passionate 😂 (There are dozens of us meme -- no literally, there were like 2 dozen of us.)

“Duty Dysphoria be damned my son would make a great lawyer” a phrase I’m sure my parents have literally said about me. Alongside this, “duty dysphoria” sounds way better than the oft toted “catholic guilt” I hear we All Have. Much obliged as I’m sure it will enter my jargon overnight.

Just leaving some completely unconnected thoughts here since you seem to read the comments: I’m honestly quite glad that Marlowe and Spade exists as backlash to the Great Detective, because frankly, I’m not much of a fan of it! It feels inherently sociopathic and dissonant to me, this posh tosser treating murder like a game of afternoon chess. It only works for me when there’s an implicit acknowledgement of how dark that mentality is, making it either as much of a mask as a tough guy act or just straight up showing it as a sign that someone’s a full on sociopath (Sherlock himself was the only good part of BBC Sherlock), or has them actively make a point of treating this as more than some fucked-up game (Benoit Blanc). I genuinely think Sam Spade, specifically, might be a better person than Sherlock writ large, because at least he doesn’t think he’s ABOVE the dirt he plays around in. He hurts people, he doesn’t use them as toys

Speaking of Master and Commander, when's the next Book review of that series November? It's been a while since the last one.

one of the few times ever, maybe three, that i turned off the pod midway-through after my drive home from work so that i could watch the movie myself before listening to the rest. what a damn film

Yoohoo is more like chocolate-flavored water. It's got whey in it i think but that's it

The phrase "beat the shit *into*" someone is fucking visceral, lol. Walking up to a queer couple and asking which one protects and which one serves, lol.

I’m so glad y’all covered this movie because The Nice Guys is a pillar of the trifecta I like to call “blonde transmasc detective” which is comprised of Holland March, Benoit Blanc, and Tintin

Towards the "Jackson Healy is trans" point, will say that "has never put a single thought into what clothes he (she) wears, buys clothes once a decade" is also egg-coded, as a way to avoid exposing yourself to situations that cause dysphoria (ask me how I know)

My daughter who is 8 is on a real detective kick and one of the great tragedies of my life is that even when she is old enough to watch this film even though it is about a hopeless detective girl dad and his much smarter nancy drew pilled daughter It would be inappropriate to watch it with her. I really need a PG movie with this energy.

I am so fucking happy that you did this. It’s so good and it’s so underrated! It was so perfect for sequels and it’s a crime we never got any!

I did the "steal porno mags from my dad" thing too, when I was a little boy*. I never would have tried it while he was sleeping in the room, though, I got it from his workshed.

Honestly, Ryan Gosling and Orson Welles would be great picks as far as masculinity goals. They both exist on this spectrum of like, bonkers, off-the-charts levels of charisma. Their careers were both eclectic, but my gut tells me Gosling would maybe be more on the Insane Rizz (Comedic) side of the spectrum, and Welles on the Insane Rizz (Dramatic) side.

Disco Elysium is my favorite The Nice Guys related fanwork

Great episode! Detective suggestion Artemus Gordon in Wild wild west. Thank you for all the hilarious and insightful podcasting content

Great timing cause I rewatched this the other week cause my brother wanted to watch it on a whim.

Legendary pull

As an American, it is painful to watch British people either pronounce or spell pedophilia. I'm not sure how you made a stomach-churning topic even more viscerally upsetting, but you did. Good episode besides that though.

I love this movie. Agree, we should have had one of these made at least once every two years.

Yeeeeees!

A lead (to some horrendous suffering, but marketable Schadenfreude, maybe) there is an episode in s1 of Lewis in which Ca0tain Gatso himself wrestles with the fallout of a fellow former Christian sect member who found did not find said sect a barrier to transition, and is now murdering her way through all the sect members who got in her way, slay girl. I would imagine that it is as tropily transphobic as avg 00s media, and watching foxy larry ruin Kevin Whately by association stings, but hey, content.