Episode 5 - Lisbeth Salander & Mikael Blomkvist in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2005 / 2009 / 2011)

Please please consider watching Mannen på taket, a film adaptation of a decent novel by Swedish Marxist crime writers Maj Sjöwall and Per Wahlöö, basically invented Nordic noir.

I haven't seen this movie, but... does a Manic Pixie Dream Girl Spit on Your Grave then have Daniel Craig fuck her brain "normal?"

Archangel!! My god, I love that series

you three gotta do harriet the spy at some point - one of the more crueler kid detective movies from childhood memory

YES UPPSALA LIVE SHOW COME TO MEEEE

I don't think it comes up in the American movie, but in the book Mikael and his editor are explicitly doing poly, she's married to another man. I always thought it added an extra layer but I'm not articulate enough to say WHAT that layer is. Just a neat book detail I wish they had included. This was my first BGSC episode and I loved it!

How 'technically detective media' can something be before it's no longer valid for the show - will one day we have an all trans woman review of the Dresden Files? Probably not, there's a tv series but I don't recall it being that good. And also this seems to be focusing on more traditional detective fare so far.

Oh, and could you do the anime series Detective Conan? (not all episodes, but in general)

In the books Mikael is polyamorous, or at least ENM. The editor is married and her husband acknowledges their relationship. Mikael was monogamous with his ex wife, but as soon as they divorced he got back together with her again. I read the books being a relationship anarchist (a very Swedish thing) and feeling so sorry for Lisbeth not knowing about Mikaels way of doing relationships when discovering them.

Did anyone else hear Mia say "Stellan Scotchgard" or is that just me?

Hey if you want to get New Zealand with it and you need a trans woman from Auckland who owns a microphone, I’ll come on for The Brokenwood Mysteries

I really hoped you would have talked about the differences from the swedish book and english one, because there's a lot of gross shit in the english version that's not in the swedish one. Stuff like making her entire back tattoo into a tiny shoulder one, changing the descriptions men make of her where they comment on how they hate her black lipstick and piercings to just remove that. In one sentence they change it from almost unnoticable breasts to childlike breasts. There's a lot of referring to Lisbeth as a girl and not a woman (like the title). At one point She and Mikael has a conversation that starts with Lisbeth asking how they are going to solve the case and then declares someone close to Mikael knows something, in the English version Mikael starts the conversation and Lisbeth is basically nodding along asking questions.

Re: future episodes: Columbo featuring Hesse Deni when?

Oh my god I remember now, the english versions of these books were so fucking bad. They added misogyny were there was none. Look up the changes they made and get real mad

Also polite suggestion that you cover Veronica Mars at some point? Super fun but also touches on some surprisingly heavy stuff for a teen detective show

I'm intrigued at where this podcast could go without being bound to one specific form. Could we get the first season of True Detective? Could we get a season on The Wire? Could we get the episode of Homicide called 'Three Men And Adena'? Could we get the first season of True Detective again and then over and over again forever? Also Mia's accent made me want to rewatch the Phoenician Scheme.

what I've gathered from the pippi longstocking thing is that stig larsson was basically doing the Male Feminist Ally™️ equivalent of the song about barney the dinosaur being killed by a 4x4

My favorite story to share about my Great Grandma Doty, a towering woman despite her modest 5-foot nothing stature and curly head of thin white hair, is that, at 92, she texts me, her then teenage great grandson, while at the movie theater on the opening day of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, the message “dan craige is a looker isnt he” with no other context or follow up. I miss that woman dearly.

Mia's gummmmmi voice is giving me 2026 Swedish woman dysphoria 😅

I find it interesting to use "pornographic" pejoratively towards a rape scene. The too-precious, not-for-eyes approach to rape scenes is, ime, far more damaging than them being explicit. I find it far more cathartic as a survivor to have a rape scene depicted accurately or in a heightened way rather than have it turned away from (and I don't even like watching rape scenes in films).

In my head, the movie Lamb (2021) with Noomi Rapace is where Lisbet ended up in the end.

The reason its a Sony advertisement is its a Sony distributed movie.

But I don't understand, Mia doesn't sound ANYTHING like Trixie Mattel??

For extended research scenes with lots of paperwork, my favorite has to be the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Series with Alec Guinness.

Knitted sweaters/cardigans for the female gaze: I didn't know Mr Rogers was secretly dressing hot

At some point they have to do Batman: The Animated Series (as he is at times referred to as the world’s greatest detective).

Men Who Hate Women is suuuch a good title

Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWXEfXGWtA

New rule: only unfiltered Svedish