[BONUS] Episode D - Who Shot Mr Burns?
On this bonus episode of Be Gay Solve Crimes, we blow the lid on a 30 year old case by analysing the classic Simpsons two parter 'Who Shot Mr Burns?'
"But wait, I thought it was the baby?" Oh ho, my friend, I'm afraid you could not be wrongerer.
Join us for an unexpectedly jazz-filled extravaganza as we tap-dance over the minefield of Nova's competing podcast contractual obligations, wax nostalgic over the queen of our hearts Waylon Smithers, and witness Lucy go a bit Pepe Silvia from digging into the dark Lynchian underbelly of Springfield's suburbia to determine once and for all just how guilty Maggie Simpson is.
Thank you so much for subscribing to our Patreon! We really hope you enjoy this one, we had a whale of a time recording it!
Tune in next time as we make a frankly jarring shift in tone with our first Scandinavian murder mystery, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, and Mia does a wonderful job of lifting our spirits by unveiling her full unaltered Swedish accent in all its glory.
Comments (51)
Is Lucy saying that Marge completed the course at the Springfield Police Academy, and as such was able to shoot Mr. Burns from across the parking lot and still achieve the desired effect?
I *also* got a bit fucked up by Burns threatening Smithers to get into the model plane! I did not realize there were two of us.
The model 10, before it was called the model 10 had at least one recorded fatal accident when a sailor dropped it and it went off. The design of the rebounding hammer was changed to make it safer.
Yeah I grew up in the south in the late 90s early 2000s, and I think the Simpsons was seen as evil because it was both progressive, and it was a cartoon for adults at a time where a bunch of people were not familiar with the concept and assumed that cartoons were inherently for kids. so basically, it was some sort of liberal Trojan horse designed to make your kids cuss and be disrespectful
On the Simpsons continuity horror, I remember being younger than Lisa and watching the show, and now I'm rapidly approaching Homer's canonical age of 38. Shit's fucked. As someone who lived in the tropics most of my life, the idea that the sun sets at any time other than 6PM plus or minus ten minutes is just a foreign concept to me.
Mia's microwave line reminded me of Woody Harrelson's character, Marty, in True Detective. Another detective struggling desperately with masculinity.
oh you better *believe* that’s a future episode
jesus I cant believe it took me so long to get this but its a trans transvestigative podcast about trans investigators, I get it now
This is possibly the most amazing podcast episode I’ve ever heard. I’m so glad I subscribed for Nova’s birthday. Oh my god, Lucy, I love you. I was a teenager during the 90s, and yes, it was like being kicked in the head by culture. And yes, we were constantly asking “when did that low-crime white suburb get a swat team?”
I'm sold. Send Bouvier to the Chair
Abra haomer artolome... abe Jay & Bart are the same person living in a stable loop
Ephesiocrates: Mighty over the Citizen of the Later City Saint Ephesiocrates clearly a bellicose saint who slew some high priest of Artemis in the dismantling of her cultic site in Asia Minor
Smithers: folks is it gay to be an accessory to an exiled lord of the underworld
Oh my god, I first learned about gay people from Homer's Phobia. They get to the stinger on the break where Marge tells Homer that John is a Ho Mo Sexual and of course I have to ask my mum what that is. Very formative. Like oh! You can do that? Interesting.
No Gods, No Mayors Quimby bonus mega episode! Every single Quimby appearence commented on! My late teens and early 20s too place int the 90s in the USA and it was a bit like getting kicked in the head by a horse but having been kicked in the head by a horse in the 80s there a several important differences. Marge Trutherism...I'm convinced.
Re. the Simpsons being woke enough for bisexual lesbians, it IS woke enough for trans lesbians, as evidenced by the ‘This lesbian bar doesn’t have a fire exit!’/‘What was her problem?’ joke in Fear of Flying Also, TheRealJims on YouTube has a series of videos on who really shot Mr Burns, one of which is the Marge case and as I recall it’s one of the more convincing ones, so Lucy is not alone.
Speaking of weird Simpsons bits that freaked us out as kids, I hated the part where Dr Hibbert looks into the camera and says ‘Well, I couldn’t possibly solve this mystery. Can you?’ (Strange that there are two separate ‘Hibbert looks directly at the camera’ moments, this and the mirror one from Treehohse of Horror). I hated any time a cartoon character looked directly into the camera- I was afraid of Roadrunner for the same reason. I was not diagnosed with autism for about another ten years.
"Mr Burns and Smithers are like The Duke of Burgundy" is such a good bit
MIA OH MY GOD also howled laughing in an Arket at "surely you can just use a microwave"
Love, love, love this podcast, so much fun, genuinely a pleasure to listen to x
To the point of "everyone who guests on this has to be a trans woman or honorarily trans" - consider: a "those French special forces guys in the grand Mosque siege in Mecca" approach where Outsiders are permitted exclusively if they at least nominally transition. Non tgirl guests are allowed exclusively on the condition that they take estrogen that day.
The Ken Rex McElroy murder has so many fascinating details, from him being shot by at least two different guns in the crowd, to the way the sheriff declared to the gathered crowd that there was nothing he could legally do about the dangerous thug McElroy, before getting into his car and driving straight out of the city, just before before the confrontation and shooting happened.
Now I'm trying to come up with a Marge Simpson verse for Cell Block Tango, to be performed with the signature Marge rasp.
You would hate to get shot on Shut the Fuck Up Friday
Fascinating to get a Scottish perspective on Groundskeeper Willie. The Italian dub of the Simpsons I grew up with gave a bunch of characters localized accents, and Willie was saddled with the thickest Sardinian accent I've ever heard. Guess they thought "they both like sheep, close enough."
weirdly in the uk Liking Sheep is a stereotype aimed at the welsh 🤷🏻♀️
While Matt Groening may have been the "Let's make money" engine, Sam Simon was the show's heart. They eventually fell out more-or-less over credit for "creating" the show, and then Simon caught the cancer, so he's not around to defend himself anymore
Broke: WS - Waylon Smithers Woke: MS - Maggie Simpson Bespoke: MS - Marge Simpson!
I just want to point out that is wasn't just a television event, this was a parody of a previous television event from almost ten years before. It's so funny that now the cultural touchstone is the Simpsons but back then they were riffing on Dallas.
Dallas and to a lesser extent Twin Peaks
Nova reaching for the exact same Peter O'Toole anecdote recording the podcast as I did listening to it is very funny.
As a milennial in Spain growing up meant watching reruns of seasons (3 to 10?) of the Simpsons, often daily during lunch. Many of those chapters quotes or plots are Manchurian Activation phrases for me and people I know. We reference things with The Simpsons. After all these years I've realise an unexpected perk of those reruns is that we never saw the inevitable decline of the series.
Note on how Krusty and Homer look similar: at one point in development, they were considering having Homer secretly be Krusty, but pulled it back to them just looking similar. Either way, the idea is that Bart respects one of them but not the other.
u can only be a guest if you're a trans woman? damn, you should make riley come on :p
Well exactly! How else are we going to get the mayor edit?
Hello BGSC: I would like to inform you that there is a Rian Johnson neonoir movie set in a high school called Brick. I expect there can be a good 6-7 riffs on the title alone.
When you do Twin Peaks please get the TSTV ladies on that'd be sick
The true horror of the Simpsons is that their present stays current so their pasts shift to make up for it. Homer goes from being a teen in the 1970s to him being a teen in the 90s. At this rate Grampa Simpson will have been a veteran of Vietnam. In another decade he might even be a veteran of Desert Storm.
I really need Lucy to go on Talking Simpsons and present her theory
The make-up joke where Super Nintendo Chalmers walks in and goes "Oh my god..." 90s transphobic unfortunately. There's is no two ways about it BUT I do think the absurdity of someone accidentally putting on lipstick, mascara and blush and not realizing until he looks in the mirror at the finished product is pretty good.
As a person who grew up in the 90s in America: one of the ways you could deal with it if you were a weird kid was to become weirdly hyperfocused on Lisa Simpson as an archetype and role model. You then get baby's first attack of postmodernism via the "these characters will never grow up" bit that Lucy mentions, compounded with the realization that as the show's writing degrades, so does Lisa. Then you write stories about rescuing Lisa from Springfield's crumbling existential purgatory. Now, two roads diverge here - whether you identify as Lisa in this narrative, or whether you take on the Jeff Mangum role and attempt to save her in some sort of time machine. This is down to the individual and their proclivities, but if you'd like an example of the former, read Cate Wurtz' "Crow Cillers." I'd provide an example of the latter but it's better if nobody ever finds my teenage Digimon/Simpsons crossover fanfic
It keeps happening https://www.tumblr.com/adamtotscomix/704000453722226688?source=share
Beautiful job on the climactic sequence.
Matt Goening occupies a weird Epstein middle ground were he was on Lolita Express but girls are on the record he was the only one that treated them nicely.
They did have to message his disgusting feet though.
If memory serves Mr Burns isn't only dressed as a child but he's dressed as JIMBO which makes one wonder if he's only dressed the same or those ARE Jimbo's clothes. And I guess you as a viewer is left to choose if you go "Hah. That's Jimbo's clothes! Easter egg!" or "What has Mr Burns done to Jimbo?" I think especially in THIS episode it'd be pretty on-brand for Mr Burns to send his goons to rob a kid of his clothes without a second thought.
omg you're so right, this changes everything
Pointless architecture tangent re: dirt-floored basements. As far as I know they were a thing in some parts of the U.S., but today a building would have to be suuuper old and/or suuuper not up to code to have one.
Most houses in California do not have basements for obvious reasons having to do with the ground shaking whenever it feels like, but they do have crawl spaces, and those spaces are very much dirt
I have a Simpsons anecdote, and it goes as thus. I was not allowed to watch the 6pm channel 4 Simpsons, largely on my mother's orders. This would not be uncommon, sans the fact that my mother is a staunch anti-zionist, anti-capitalist, and is herself about four bad days away from becoming a Maoist. Her argument was twofold. First, channel 4 had adverts, and she did not want me exposed to adverts (based as fuck). The second, is way funnier. My mother thinks American culture is the scourge of the earth and would do all in her power throughout my life to ensure I became as un-american as possible. This is, probably, why I grew up learning french. And Latin. The punchline, of course, is that I did watch the Simpsons. But only whilst at the house of my dear friend, who lived opposite, and who came from an extremely devoutly Christian family.
You went to Ned Flanders' house to watch The Simpson? Meta!
