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January 16, 2024

[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep020 “Later Than You Think"

Tick tock. Tick tock. What time is it? How much is left? Can we have five more minutes? The gang's investigation has pierced the veil of the Citadel, and peering back at them through the penumbra is the great iron face of a clock, hands moving up and down, rotating and returning like the silent islands in the sky. Hands that hold you back, spin you round, or throw you, gasping.

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We are

Brennan Lee Mulligan

Erika Ishii

Aabria Iyengar

Lou Wilson

Produced, designed, and scored by Taylor Moore  at Fortunate Horse with exquisite design and editing help from Jared Olson.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: Tazer Army, Shannon, and Amanda Freberg.

Album art by the great Corey Brickley

Comments (54)

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gramps · August 22, 2025

Re-liestening and nothing hurt worse that "your not ready for it" like a punch to the chest

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Jonesey · May 13, 2024

Layers shield each other From that which needs to be done Cloaks ripple in time

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Sil · March 15, 2024

When you relisten and realise Ghost is a ?Humanoid jewelhopper 😔 please tell us she hasn't been killed or portraited...

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Ashley Teatum · January 31, 2024

"Given 40 years, what will your cottage look like" 😭❤️

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Incite Astrology and Tarot · January 24, 2024

Let it be known I would die for Wizard Sly

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Sil · January 23, 2024

"Let me be clear. There is nowhere you need me that can keep me from you." I felt that so deep in my BLOOD, Aabria 😵 so much that I think I need to see it as ink in my skin. When I do, you'll be the first to know. Does Cyril have a handwriting font? 😉

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larkermouse · January 23, 2024

Hi, normally I listen to these in the Youtube music app, but it this episode still isn't up on there. Is there normally this delay?

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Chris Kagamine · January 23, 2024

I'm calling it now: Brennan is evil enough to title an episode "Kalaya's Lost Years" (ATLA reference) that the majority of the episode is going through Kalaya's time in Umora. And it starts with her coming out the portal and thinking her brother is pranking her. She keeps jumping behind random trees to scare him: expecting he is there. Then it switches to a scene where it's raining and she can't find shelter. Brennan will fill a pool with our tears

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Dan Estabrook · January 22, 2024

I'm so into Sly and the OoPCD (or as we call it around here, the "Oopsie Dee")

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Michael Munene · January 20, 2024

This episode had me in my feelings all the way through. Also, we totally need a storytime of Sly's shenanigans with Grandmother Wren at some point.

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Phoenix Johnstone · January 19, 2024

Holy moly, I got a mad case of the shivers at the end before I realised those were Citadel skyships. 🫠

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CommodoreBlue · January 19, 2024

Was The Stranger among the paintings that Soft freed 22 years ago?

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Sil · January 23, 2024

WHHYYYY WOULD YOU PUT THIS IDEA THOUGHT IN MY HEEEAAADDD

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Lojaan · January 19, 2024

Anyone else get the feeling that Hanna made those shields? And she had to stand by while they were just... given away?

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Matteo cooleo · January 19, 2024

Pomeroy having a hint of Mark Hamill in his voice just makes me love Brennan even more 👌

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Moe · January 18, 2024

I feel so powerfully for the artificers that that part made me cry...at work...at a job that is consistently taken for granted. I'm so tired of hearing "without you guys, no one else in this place would have a job" from the higher-ups. It's empty rhetoric meant to sway us into false security when we are underpaid and have to work overtime just to pay rent. Most people do not care about an easel when it's holding a painting. They see the terrible beauty of looming towers but not the foundation that keeps those towers tall and strong. Metaphors, metaphors, capitalism is the bad guy, etc.

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Sil · January 23, 2024

I feel this in my blood. For what cause on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one? Solidarity forever to you from AU, my friend. Let's not talk about how the Citadel would be the equivalent of a union-busting billion-dollar-multinational 😉

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Christie Joesbury · January 18, 2024

They stole their lunch break! Terrible workplace 🤬😔

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Frankimer · January 18, 2024

Uncle made me tear up on the bus 😭

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Charles Shields · January 17, 2024

This is not the place for this question, but it just came up as I'm watching it. Did the name "Worlds Beyond Number" have anything to do with Brennana saying it in Episode 5: Reflections, 2:09. I see it says Brennana right now but I am not going to correct it.

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Charles Shields · January 17, 2024

Episode 5 of "The Seven" in dimension 20.

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Evelina Meiklejohn · January 17, 2024

This podcast brightens my commute every time. 💖

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Bryan · January 17, 2024

We need a Sly and Fox one off quest where Brennan has to play every single character and we get to hear him slowly dip into the murky fog of GM insanity

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Sil · January 23, 2024

I need a flashback to Ren & Sly, undertaking a mission

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embraceweird · January 17, 2024

The tonal changes this ep are wild! Absolutely amazing work all around

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Tom Web · January 17, 2024

Brennan's diction when Pomeroy gets mad makes me think of Basil Fawlty. That's all I can picture for him now.

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Steelhammer · January 17, 2024

Question for the fireside: I hope Brennan comes back from Panama soon because I'd be interested in hearing him talk about the trickiness of role-playing a diviner. (I thought Brandon was a real smooth when Eursulon asked sly if Sly already knew what Eursulon was about to ask and Abria was delightfully devious in stealing a ruby that Sly supposedly divined that no one would steal.)

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Christie Joesbury · January 17, 2024

This was tough! Unionize the mills! So sad 😭

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Brandon Carbaugh · January 17, 2024

Man Sly is like an network engineer at a tech company. Just a weirdo stuffed in a back room, foresaging problems 200 years out, but they're so specific and complicated that nobody listens to him, because to even begin to explain why he's right, he would first have to teach you 37 other things.

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Leo Burn'd · January 17, 2024

100% - especially the fact that no one notices a brilliant IT worker that prevents problems because they seemingly never 'fix' anything

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hairy_spice · January 17, 2024

The SCORE for the wizard Sly! Brilliant brilliant brilliant.

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LightningIdle · January 17, 2024

Ame, presumably nudging Eursulon with an elbow: I have never known Suvi not to be speakin’ for herself Eursulon, missing that this is supposed to be the bit where they razz their friend while she’s standing two feet away: oh don’t worry it’s just a saying :) Ame: …… alright

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Jules Vance · January 17, 2024

Shoutout to the Wizard Sly. One of my favorite things Brennan does in worldbuilding is to follow the existence of magic to its natural conclusion -- if you possess an insanely high level of divination magic, what steps would you need to take to actually act on the information you're getting? What if the powers that be didn't give a shit about what you knew was the most important? Absolutely incredible.

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WWMSudoku · January 16, 2024

I assume Sly saying Suvi and not Sky was a mistake, but if not, hoo boy

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The Witch of Welkins Vast · January 16, 2024

Huh. Sly says "Suvi" not "Sky". 👀

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Albert · January 16, 2024

Uncle Sly is a variant of Arthur Aguefort

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Stephen Laster · January 16, 2024

Minus the megalomania and questionable preferences in partner, but this is EXACTLY what I thought.

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Julia Whitmore · January 16, 2024

Brennan: This is my wizard NPC. He has timeline fuckery magic and loves birds. He is strange and powerful but has vital information for the heroes' quest. Me: Don't do it ho Brennan: The wizard says something cryptic and then immediately teleports away. Me: What did I just say!!

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FooldiverDX · January 16, 2024

Having recently become a new DM I definitely like these characters even more, especially the Wizard Sly.

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Connor · January 16, 2024

The idea of ordering your quest list by what imaginary food is nearby adds a layer of realism to these characters I really enjoy 😂

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The King of House Cabraescuro · January 16, 2024

Sly is the fucking man

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FootnoteLovenote · January 16, 2024

Everyone who was there for the "HOUSE" finally singing, "Enjoy yourself... It's later than you think..."

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Cloud · January 16, 2024

“My mom used to be a diviner”… you mean at one point we had Sly and the Wizard Stone??

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Meghan Lewis · January 16, 2024

Listen, Brennan’s food descriptions lately are SO off the chain. I don’t know what the bit-to-reality ratio was on “you don’t actually need a menu,” but we’ve come a long way, baby!

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Sil · January 16, 2024

Also, my headcanon is Wizard Sly and Wizard Sonder, down at Candle Street, swapping notes about things the Citadel could just be better at

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Sil · January 16, 2024

"You all heard Eursalon v Goat, are you ready for Wizard Skye v Coven of Elders (probably/mostly Merara and her wickedness)?" Taylor but in an announcer voice, probably

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Justin Smith (Barbarossa Builds, LLC) · January 16, 2024

I'm only 12 minutes in and all I've said was wow wow wow. Brennan has made me loathe a character already.

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Michelle Spurgeon · January 16, 2024

The way you phrased at the end, as Steel comes home to her citadel, after we learned how shitty and corrupt the citadel can be, make it sound like she is complicit and or responsible for it being that way. 😬😬

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John Folmer · January 16, 2024

Spoilers . . . . . . . . . I really loved the way that Sly gave prophesies. I enjoy a direct prophet over the indirect ones, and the way that he told Ame how to solve her problem was helpful without being too revealing. Just wanted to write my appreciation.

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Eagledink · January 16, 2024

Love the show and love you guys- just a minor thing could there be a little less like chewing and groaning into the mic please!

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Steve Cartwright · January 16, 2024

Love it when I get an episode to listen to on my lunchtime walk. Really appreciate you guys arranging the release schedule to suit GMT dwellers

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Sven the Scribe · January 16, 2024

Hop in that Dimension Duber and let's go!

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Ralph Chavez · January 16, 2024

Bruh, my sleep can’t even

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Worlds Beyond Number · January 16, 2024

https://youtu.be/6liD8TdlJFA?si=x-nJymHRy8Jxplc4