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January 9, 2024

Fireside Chat for WWW ep19 "Kith and Kin"

PERMISSION TO BE WEIRD: GRANTED.  Except for you Devonte, put down the trains! The triumvirate returns to "discuss" kith, kin, pvp, and oh let's see what else, oh right, PLAY BAG IT OR TAG IT.  Airhorn sound.


Comments (142)

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Emi · August 11, 2025

More lore from the "Lou-niverse!"

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Nick Lerche · March 9, 2025

Is crazy frog public domain yet?

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Vanessa Seatang · February 25, 2025

"I forget that people exist if they're not in front of me" ... Babes that's peak ADHD

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Felix · November 7, 2024

Laudna leaking into other podcasts, as she does

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Anne Procter · October 18, 2024

So pleased to see Craig back

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Zach K · September 8, 2024

CRAIG

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Erin Michelotti · August 26, 2024

I need a compilation list of everyone's favorite books, movies, video games, etc. I want to know what other grown ups who shared the same child nerdy fixations as I did consume now.

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Laramie Hearn · August 26, 2024

Oh Erika just….describing the way ADHD people process relationships and time. I felt that in my soul lol

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kayce. · August 22, 2024

kudos to whoever came up with the name (at least i HOPE it's a kath & kim reference lol)

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Elizabeth Leedham · November 1, 2024

This title made me realise Kath and Kim is based off this phrase!

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Daniel Puck · May 14, 2024

Devonte is my absolute favorite guest at 8 mins in 🥰✨

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The Wizard Cyan · April 13, 2024

Oh my gosh! I paint white Santas and elves brown in my house too! I didn't know multiple people did this. 🤣

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Katie P. · March 13, 2024

Who else started a timeline and a Miro Board for the lore? It can't just be me

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Julia V · March 1, 2024

I had no idea what Crazy Frog was, so if it is any consolation Lou, I thought Taylor DID create an original theme song.

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The Ugly Goblin · February 22, 2024

God what a stellar episode xD

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Ashley Teatum · January 27, 2024

When you grow up in NY, you just *don't* do the touristy things 😅 didn't see the Empire State Building until I took my now husband to the city. "How have you never BEEN?" IDK you just DON'T 🥲

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Just_another_queer · January 26, 2024

I thought I was a just a horrible person until I learnt about object permanence and ADHD now I don't put pressure on myself to just remember like everyone else seemed to do and will even set alarms with people's names to remind me to talk to people and less self loathing when I straight up forget people exist

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Melissa Shilale · January 25, 2024

Not me silently wheezing at work during the bag it or tag it theme

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Zagreus_the_knight · August 20, 2024

I loved Lou saying " he kept the money so here's the theme he made" and it being the exact same crazy frog them from before lol

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Cait Batchelor · January 23, 2024

You can get a lot done in a month - followed by yeah, had me on the floor

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DrHolliday · January 23, 2024

The Overcast app says “Not Authorized” on this episode only and still hasn’t let me play it :(

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Daemonique Arts · January 24, 2024

I have the same problem. I have tried all the troubleshooting suggested by Overcast and Patreon and no luck.

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CommodoreBlue · January 19, 2024

Soft was “careless,” but I think he may have ACTUALLY been careless. Chances are at least some spirits in The Collection are destructive forces that would kill innocents. And it sounds like he just let them ALL out, which is an understandable reaction to seeing the horrors of The Collection. But what if The Stranger was in there? What if Soft released him? Or some other evil. Grandma Wren took a much more strategic approach. She was surgical. One spirit at a time, likely after some kind of review to ensure she is in fact freeing an innocent spirit. Way better than Soft’s approach

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Zander Jenkins · January 19, 2024

What is murder if not divorce from life

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Trish Shirley-Temple · January 18, 2024

I feel like Erika would love Chants of the Sanaar; highly recommend, great game for decyphering alien languages and exploring civilizations 🥰

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jmjs · January 18, 2024

I was just able to download every episode except this one / it’s in my feed but I’m getting an error that tells me I’m not authorized. Any fix?

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jmjs · January 18, 2024

Using Overcast on iOS and haven’t had a problem with any pattern RSS feeds in the past.

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Daemonique Arts · January 17, 2024

Anyone else not able to play the fireside chat episodes? Overcast keeps saying I’m not authorized.

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Josh H · January 16, 2024

So does Brennan just not do these anymore?

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Josh H · January 16, 2024

Oh, I guess he’s in Panama. ☺️

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shining oak · January 16, 2024

I'm so glad Craig came to visit. It makes so much sense he's family friends with Devonte!

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Christie Joesbury · January 16, 2024

My pocket casts app stopped updating the fireside. Is there a different URL I need to enter? Thanks.

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Jill Paxon · January 15, 2024

harold faltermeyer is gonna come for all your asses

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Tony Silvestri · January 15, 2024

I'm in literal tears from the crazy frog bit

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RuviGaPo · January 14, 2024

Divorce on the orient express one shot 😆

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Ruka · January 14, 2024

I was doing chores when the bag it or tag it theme kicked in and I started crying laughing, earning concerned comments from my family.

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Cicatrixtwigs · January 13, 2024

Taylor, please NEVER change the Bag It or Tag It (BITI? Is that a thing?) theme tune. It cracks me up every time :D

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Katelyn Buchta · January 13, 2024

I laughed until I cried at bag it or tag it. Please keep these very eligible contestants coming.

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The Wizard Schmutz · January 12, 2024

Does anyone know of a character list anywhere?

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Ian Sisson · January 12, 2024

If fuck magic is Canon, that means there has definitely been a wizard Sex.

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Cicatrixtwigs · January 13, 2024

The people NEED the wizard Sleezy 😂

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Zac · January 12, 2024

I don’t know what’s funnier, Lou commissioning a theme song or Taylor saying hold my beer after a bit and Lou feeling the need to pay

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Liuba M · January 12, 2024

Oh, a Burrow’s End reference from Erika with the ‘beating heart on the battle map’ 😝

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Witpending · January 12, 2024

I know it's been weeks but I'm still laughing about "he is employed as a child"

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Thomassen Honnor · January 12, 2024

The chat is great, but I'm so excited for the Bag It or Tag It when Brennan is back

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J · January 12, 2024

The first movie is actually really fantastic - I feel like it had a cult resurgence in 2015 or something? but now I have to watch a fuckin sequel too

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Zac Felton · January 12, 2024

The things you can get away with by being hot/being a wild one is the exact same energy.

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Virgil_dendrict · January 12, 2024

Outer wilds, so good

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Ivo the Mad Sorcerer · January 11, 2024

Been loving these talkbacks! I am also very excited to hear Brennan and Aabria talk about the process behind the creation of the citadel. I wouldn't mind giving ten minutes each to how the courts were designed, what the seeds were behind the different archmages, how additional flavor like the unfamiliars and the tumori were invented, where the bloody carnival came from, all that. Also, how do you start making a setting that's clearly oriented at one of your players interesting to your other players? I just want to hear as much inside baseball as I can haha

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mguin · January 11, 2024

big fan of the expanded Lou-niverse 💜

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Stephanie Heinz · January 11, 2024

My brain when Erika asked my question simultaneously turned into goop and a firework. As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, learning that relationship degradation was a *thing* and that a lot of people naturally experience it changed my entire understanding of interacting with humans 😂

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Mackenzie Moyer · January 14, 2024

When Erika mentioned the "I forget people exist" thing, I was immediately like oh honey that's the AuDHD neurospicy brain 😅

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Bryan · January 11, 2024

I wanna watch these three play Lethal Company and observe their sanity unravel over the course of about 10 minutes

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Sean Kelley · January 11, 2024

There ain't no way, THERE AIN'T NO WAY— TAYLOR WITH THE STEEL CHAIR AND CRAZY FROG FROM THE TOP ROPES—

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Sean Kelley · January 11, 2024

Devonte and Craig have never been seen together in the same room. Coincidence? I think not.

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Sean Kelley · January 11, 2024

You know, if I had a PENNY for every time Lou came on and pretended to be a completely new guest... I'd have a Devonte Penny.

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Cody Davidson · January 11, 2024

Loving the brand new original bag it or tag it theme song !!

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Matthew Curtis · January 11, 2024

Outer Wilds goes hard! be sure to play Echoes of the Eye (the dlc) Erika!

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Zachary Livingood · January 11, 2024

RIP to Lou’s $150

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Dillon Franca · January 10, 2024

mr penny is easily my new favorite guest

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Wiring Careful · January 10, 2024

Was Ghost one of the voices (Kith and Kin 1:12:10) in the collection?

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Conor Steinke · January 10, 2024

Ride the divorce train and ride it (woo woooo) irrec differences it's a choo choo ride it (woo woooo)

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Connor · January 10, 2024

I love Lou doing some world building to allow them to play “Bag it or Tag it” 😂

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Mary Davison · January 10, 2024

Ooooooh, I have a suggestion for a Play-system to use with Mini Christmas Villiages! Has anyone else heard of "Hometown Holidays" by Nick Tourville? It's a one-shot TTRPG based on Hallmark Holiday movies and would actually be perfect. Not sure if it's ok to post a link here?

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Mary Davison · January 10, 2024

https://kidnick.itch.io/hometown-holiday#:~:text=Hometown%20Holiday%20is%20a%20comedy,interest%20and%20complete%20secret%20objectives!

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Alissa · January 10, 2024

You can really feel how much heart and effort Taylor put into that new theme song.

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Edward Terry-Smith · January 10, 2024

Erica: Does anyone else forget people if they're not in front of them? That fish head from Sponge Bob: Breaking news! Erika Ishii has ADHD!

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Alsritt · January 10, 2024

When I tell you I absolutely lost it at the theme song, I mean that I got strange looks from my coworkers from across the entire cubicle farm

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Demelza Walkden · January 10, 2024

Guys I think Brennan and Lou died in Panama…

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Demelza Walkden · January 10, 2024

They’re gonna have to start using Taylor as a stand-in for Brennan

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Rowan Sauer · January 10, 2024

A Choo Choo to Devonte Penny!

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Nessa_Vives · January 10, 2024

Bag It or Tag It has to be one of the best mini games, it never fails to make me laugh

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Charlie · January 10, 2024

Outer Wilds is an AMAZING video game. For those who really liked Outer Wilds, might I also suggest a game I just finished and loved for the same reasons: Dredge. Very cool, very Maine, very Cthlulu, very thalassophobia. Very similar to Outer Wilds. Highly recommend.

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Strange Universe · January 10, 2024

Any word on when Brennan will be back from South America?

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Phoenix Vizva’i · January 10, 2024

Taylor’s already done so many incredible soundscapes, but the Bag It or Tag It theme is truly hauntingly beautiful. Best work yet 11/10 👍👍

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Brandon Carbaugh · January 10, 2024

That moment between the three of them in the gallery honestly felt like the kind of foreshadowing thing an author drops in book 1, when book 3 has the former friends tragically leading opposed armies and shouting recriminations at one another from across battlefields. I was like "OH NO STOP FIGHTING BE FRIENDS"

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Cur · January 11, 2024

If that bolt hit I was going to cry.

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Sydney Nylia · January 10, 2024

My favorite thing is that I honestly have no idea if the theme song is Lou's bit or Taylor's bit. 😂 Perfection

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bitterbaldguy · January 10, 2024

Love y'all

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Sean Case · January 10, 2024

Ahooo hoo and crackle crackle

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BakingBad · January 10, 2024

the shut up was the moment my knitting tension changed again gosh darn it devontae, first aabria now you im crying here

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Neal · January 9, 2024

OUTER WILDS LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

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faizaan723 · January 9, 2024

When it was crazy frog again I lost it, so fuvking good

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bitterbaldguy · January 9, 2024

I need this as a TV show or animation

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Blue Jones · January 9, 2024

I knew the crazy frog was coming. But it was still too good.

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Cody Hasselbring · January 9, 2024

ERIKA IS PLAYING OUTER WILDS!?!? I will not be normal about this. Erika how do you like it so far. You should play the DLC too it’s amazing

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Killjoy Toku · January 9, 2024

I didn’t expect to read my name

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Brendan · January 9, 2024

Good thing I’m single, I can ride all the trains I want!

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Divanté Malachi · January 9, 2024

Hearing my name in this feels wild, don't really hear it out in the wild too frequently

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eve · January 9, 2024

bring back unkie deaux!

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Peydon Bush · January 9, 2024

The word wizard comes from the old English word “Ard” for person, and the word “Wise”. So, wise person 😎🧙‍♂️

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Jamie ßuçklānđ · December 20, 2025

I didn't think "are" was for person, it was for strong/too much. So wizards are "too much wise". Drunkard is another example.

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Lojaan · January 9, 2024

So in today's parlance it's pronounced "jizzard"

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THEY Agenda Productions · January 9, 2024

I'm imagining Craig & Devonte (Lou) switching seats when a question is posed to one of them.

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Ocean Man · January 9, 2024

That themesong killed me

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Sander Goldman · January 9, 2024

God Outer Wilds is the best game ever fucking made

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Sean Hakala · January 9, 2024

If we’re being honest about rail-based divorces it’s mostly because of the spouses of train crews not being able to handle the terrible hours their partner has to work and the fact that their partner can’t plan events in advance because they’re always on call.

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Chris Kagamine · January 9, 2024

49:40 congrats Erika on the ADHD, lol. A lot of Neurodivergent people forget about people when they aren't there, but feel like no time has passed when you see the again. I and most of my friend are neurodivergent, so we've forgotten about each other for months, then talk like no time has passed. Unfortunately, only my Neurotypical friends have gotten married, so I don't get invited to a lot of weddings: cause I wasn't on top of maintaining the friendships (aka I forgot for too long)

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Ms.Peach · January 9, 2024

Erika I'm also in the middle of playing outer wilds!!!! The music combined with the slowly unwrapping story never fails to stir my emotions, and now i find myself humming the main tune randomly >w<

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Kate H. · January 9, 2024

Fuck outer wilds is so good

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lil guy · January 9, 2024

Railway divorces is a thing that truly will live in my mind for, maybe ever

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Apple Slapple · January 9, 2024

Can't wait for Brennan to play bag it or tag it

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johanna · January 9, 2024

Bag it or tag it full song drop when!!

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Sasha · January 9, 2024

Nothing could've been funnier than Lou building up all that hype for an original song, only for Taylor to play crazy frog again😂

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embraceweird · January 9, 2024

I'm crying at the Bag It or Tag It theme 🤣

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Sean Endress · January 9, 2024

Ok but when do we get the spin-off podcast, Train Talk?

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lil guy · January 9, 2024

YES!! The people are begging!!! Clamouring!!!

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Dan · January 9, 2024

Omg Taylor did such a good job on the theme song, $150 was a great deal for Craig

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THEY Agenda Productions · January 9, 2024

Incredible!!

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Lucas Boyer · January 9, 2024

Seriously though, why did Brennan quit doing the fireside? Is he leaving the pod altogether?

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Worlds Beyond Number · January 9, 2024

Brennan will return.

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zoozle · January 9, 2024

Okay but "Romance on the Rails" is suddenly something I need.

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Kai Calvert · January 9, 2024

I really appreciate that the prison metaphor for spirits is one of those classic “Brennan does a sort of horror of humanity take, while also pointing to areas of nuance, and the characters being introduced to this situation get to take a stance.” Like as someone who literally talked with my therapist yesterday about “The power of metaphor,” it is a really nice like kneading of the imagination.

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Ashley P · January 9, 2024

Lou shouting "CRAIG!!" slightly off mic, multiple times, absolutely killed me 🤣

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Elizabeth Lee · January 9, 2024

Craig always has such big mirror from shrek energy during bag it or tag it lmao. It’s one of my favorite parts of the fireside and I can’t wait for Brennan to play bag it or tag it

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lil guy · January 9, 2024

That's such a perfect reference

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Michelle Spurgeon · January 9, 2024

Happy new year. Hopefully Brennan can be found soon. I'm getting worried about him being lost in the jungle.

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Thomas Flott · January 9, 2024

Every time they play bag it or tag it I just want more!!!!!

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Kalunyx · January 9, 2024

I'm glad Aabria isn't sorry. Damnit we should be allowed to be thirsty enough for bathwater ok?

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Emily Stetson · January 9, 2024

Best way to see the Statue of Liberty without a tour is to take the IKEA ferry, you get a nice water view, and everyone else is just kind of there to buy furniture, so no competition to get photos. And then you can get a cinnamon roll at the end. From a New Yorker who never stopped looking up 😊

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Warren Summers III · January 9, 2024

Yes!!

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Joey Sawyers · January 9, 2024

Is it just me or did this not get sent out to RSS? I'm (unfortunately) switching from Google Podcasts to YouTube Music; it brought my RSS to YM but the last episode I can see is Dec 12th. :(

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ngaire · January 9, 2024

it's fine for me (i use pocket casts)

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Sven the Scribe · January 9, 2024

'All she knows is... when you guys walk that fast, and Suvi doesn't know what's gonna happen, *hundreds* of people die.' - Damn!

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Jake the Cake · January 9, 2024

When Ursalon told Suvi to shut up, I wanted her to respond in that quick anger of like "No YOU shut up, don't ruin another thing for me" cuz that's what was running in my mind and would have been spiiiicy 👀

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Kalunyx · January 9, 2024

It hit me super hard cause I was like 'Eursolon! Dafuq bro. Just say things out loud to your friends.. Suvi only sees you messing with her citadel and you know she's not about that. Explaaaaaaain' so Suvi waiting instead of reacting was a jolt. She's growing up, my heart.

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Kier Oldkirk · January 9, 2024

Crackle crackle y'all. This not showing up in pocket cast for anyone else?

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Samuel Elkanick · January 9, 2024

I feel like there's usually a bit of a delay for a patreon show to appear in pocketcasts. Generally if I want to listen before it's up in pocketcasts, then I'll just listen in the Patreon player

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Trickonometry · January 9, 2024

Hello! I’m curious, do we know if Brennan be, uh, “returning from Panama” anytime soon and/or if we should expect him to be an infrequent member of the Fireside Chats moving forward? I only ask because he’s a wonderful presence! Still love hearing these three chatting about the show (and trains), just wondering if I should be resetting my expectations on who will be a regular participant moving forward! (-:

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Justin Melillo · January 9, 2024

At this point it would be very funny if they didn’t introduce Brennan but like 25 minutes in he starts talking

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Sven the Scribe · January 9, 2024

Love that the cast are *also* screaming 'just give me the doc Brennan!'

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The Wizard Ink · January 9, 2024

Brennan remains captured in the forests of panama

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Argenys Maria · January 9, 2024

I miss Brendon.

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Brandon Rilling · January 9, 2024

I miss Brendon but I don't miss Brennan/j

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Mike Garcia · January 9, 2024

Welcome back and happy new year! Ahoo hoo and crackle crackle gang

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Michael Johnson · January 9, 2024

Ahoo hoo you beautiful community ❤️

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Pete · January 9, 2024

Ahoo hoo to you~

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Nairi Malkhasian · January 9, 2024

been waiting for this all morning! first crackle crackle of 2024 🥳🔥

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Kalunyx · January 9, 2024

Happy new year all!! 💜 Crackle crackle

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Jake the Cake · January 9, 2024

Perfect timing. This is gonna make my gym time much nicer

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Caleb Jackson · January 9, 2024

Crack crackle to you!!!

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Sven the Scribe · January 9, 2024

Crackle crackle!