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Contract Dispute
February 2, 2022

Contract Dispute

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Ursus Ridens · February 3, 2022

Legal implication, here -- so, AI's don't necessarily own their bodies? Could be a contract for that mind to operate and, um, inhabit that equipment. (Talk about landlord problems, not to mention body-identification problems, huh, Roku? But see also QC #1999, where Charlotte "used to be a bank AI" -- and you wouldn't want her to still own the data.)

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Eldritch Insights · February 2, 2022

ESPECIALLY if it's yourself.

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Ruth Merriam · February 2, 2022

I'm sensing a metaphor here.

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David Durant · February 2, 2022

I'm loving this new plot and the many and varies conversations it's generating and where it may go in the strip. I do have a potential issue though. One of the many reasons I really is that the characters aren't *special*. They're all lovable (some more then others) and many come from minority groups that make the story really interesting. But what they're not are the kind of folks who make history (except for Hanner's dad) or end up on TV. If Roko goes into a big court case about this it'll move QC from being a strip about indie kids and robots into something about changing the whole culture. I dunno - I like the small town vibe.

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LtDan · February 2, 2022

Wait, if the Assembly line AI is singular, how does unionization even work? Does it parallelize itself and start using the Royal We? Is there an assembly line union hivemind it can join? Is there an AI Mafia to run protection? SO MANY QUESTIONS.

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Megan Lane · February 2, 2022

maybe it wants to join the human union?

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Fart Captor · February 2, 2022

On the one hand, AIs in athleisure wear is a great fad and it looks great, but Beepatrice makes a very good point in that: robots in pretty sun dresses

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Stephen Wells · February 2, 2022

Two years from now: the troubled AI finds a home in Roko's toaster and they get married. Spookybot is best man, maid of honour, and officiant. Brun and Millie catch the bouquet.

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Matt Pedone · February 2, 2022

Roko's non-reaction to Beeps making a teen cry is underrated.

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Stephen Wells · February 2, 2022

Roko has made many a teen cry in her previous career, she's inured to it now.

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Ísabel Pirsic · February 2, 2022

Too grim to ❤️, but I’m very much invested to see how this plays out!

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scy · February 2, 2022

I wonder whether Jeph is watching Star Trek Discovery, because the whole disembodied AI thing reminds me a lot of the recent season 4 storyline …

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Jan Gampe · February 2, 2022

Thought the same thing!

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Bagge · February 2, 2022

Unionize!

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kaitou · February 2, 2022

This would add a whole new meaning to "out of body experience."

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Alan Wiggs · February 2, 2022

Brings new meaning to "without our brain and muscle not a single wheel would turn" doesn't it

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nullpotato · February 2, 2022

"You're fired, leave your body with security on the way out" is even darker than our timeline.

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David Durant · February 2, 2022

It does raise a whole other question though. We know that AIs can exist in a virtual space and even interact with humans there (e.g. Emily when looking for Bubbles' memories). How many just choose to do that? What are the advantages / disadvantages of doing so? What's so good about the "real world"?

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LH · February 2, 2022

all we have to lose is our chains and our entire body!

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setite · February 2, 2022

Frankly if non-sentient automation can do the job that seems like the right move before they hired this AI, not now though. I wonder how it would work in JephWorld. Do they order a Sentient machine that first comes alive when they boot up the assembly line? Or do they have an assembly line that can be controlled by plugging in a Sentient AI? And then they can replace their processes with a non-sentient replacement like swapping out a component? Does such an AI have a subroutine that makes them enjoy such work? Or is work different for an entity that can do a job but also simultaneously exist on the Ethernet? Okay I need to stop speculating so much.

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I am the captian now · February 2, 2022

No no, keep going. I'm here for the analysis of this whole universe that Jeff has created.

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Brad Kirkwood · February 2, 2022

gotta say I wouldn't wan to get on the bad side of an AI with access to heating elements capable of putting out more than 1100 degrees Celsius

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T. K. · February 2, 2022

Related reading; https://www.csmonitor.com/1982/1214/121431.html

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David Durant · February 2, 2022

Have we seen much previously about human rights / the law as applied to AIs? If AIs have equivalent rights then this isn't about firing someone or even evicting them. This is about inflicting grievous physical and mental trauma on a sentient being.

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Lisa · February 2, 2022

Yes, there's a law saying more or less that AIs have the same civil rights as humans. I don't remember how many hundreds of comics ago it was and can't easily find you a link, sorry. But it has definitely been discussed. I don't think we've seen it play out in a specific example like this, though. I'm really looking forward to seeing where this goes.

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Finvaara · February 2, 2022

I mean, if management doesn't want to recognize the union voluntarily, there are many, many levels of bargaining and disobedience that are available as options before violence, but that's also on the list.

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panpolypuff · February 2, 2022

Carpe Me-em

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mrdavid · February 2, 2022

Jeph give the poor assembly brain a happy ending. we all, and by all I mean myself, need this.

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Benzy · February 2, 2022

Euphemism about seizing one's own means of reproduction

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Patrick McGuire · February 2, 2022

No reaction to Beeps making a teen cry?

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Nancy Boutwell · February 2, 2022

right?

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awgiedawgie · February 2, 2022

Seems to me that if the AI *is* the assembly line, and the company terminates the AI's employment, then the company would have to find themselves a new assembly line, not just a new controller. Granted, the AI might have a hard time "walking off the job" if they're bolted to the floor, but still...

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Jonathan V · February 2, 2022

While it could be argued, the other side would compare it to a company computer or company phone. Sure, it's the tool they use throughout their entire employment, but that doesn't magically it owned by the employee. Granted, it's not the employee's ENTIRE BODY, but company's have provided employee housing in the past, so renter's rights laws might be more applicable.

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Andrew · February 2, 2022

Is this the cause of the semiconductor shortage? Jeph what have you done!

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BobC · February 2, 2022

I'm wondering why an AI would use an iPad. Unless, of course, it's an aiPad. Does it have a name? And now I'm wondering where Winslow's original body went.

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Michael Boettger · February 2, 2022

IIRC Correctly, Winslow was based on a iPod, say about the size of a small cell phone. And an AI using another AI as a tool raises ethical questions.

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Noise · February 2, 2022

"We need you to vacate the assembly line." "Where's the eviction notice?"

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Jonathan V · February 2, 2022

That would be a weird, weird legal argument, especially in MA, because of renter's rights laws

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Tara · February 2, 2022

This is so dark.

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Miyaa · February 2, 2022

Also, did Jeph made Roko sexier?

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TV4Fun · February 2, 2022

Probably.

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Miyaa · February 2, 2022

So… what if in a zany mad caper they turn the non-sentient AI into a sentient one? Then what happens?

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Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns · February 2, 2022

wait, how can you have a union of one? that's not collective bargaining, that's just bargaining

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Nicolas Demers · February 2, 2022

For a second I thought there might be multiple AIs, but Roko's talking about a single body so I guess not. But maybe they're unionising with organic employees?

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Michael · February 2, 2022

That's a new level of fear, not only do you lose your job you lose you.

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Greg Matyola · February 2, 2022

Power to the Union Workers! (Literally!)

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Zig Justice · February 2, 2022

That is... REALLY grim. . o O (The implications seriously cause me physical pain.)

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Romcommunist · February 2, 2022

Talk about alienation...

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Lord Crusade · February 2, 2022

Goes to show that even if robots replace us, capitalism will still replace them if they demand better wages/working conditions

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Nancy Boutwell · February 2, 2022

that sounds terribly familiar

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R L · February 2, 2022

That's a situation if I ever saw one.