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May 6, 2021

Wargaming

She's not wrong

Comments (80)

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Janet Lunde · May 10, 2021

TRUTH

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A Lys Lindheim · May 10, 2021

"It's the internet. Always assume the worst." THIS is the line I need on a shirt.

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Alex · May 8, 2021

No, she's not wrong. (and I hate to bring up real world worries considering) The other concern is Swatting or Doxxing, as being a gamer can attract a-holes like that for any signs 'rejection' she might show.

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Daryl Sawyer · May 8, 2021

All she really needed to say was, "remember when you first met Clinton? Now imagine having to deal with that every day. "

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Creepy Cat Lady · May 9, 2021

This EXACTLY.

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Prettydragoon · May 6, 2021

Marigold knows from the internets.

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David Durant · May 6, 2021

Agree with everyone else but just wanted to say - wow Jeph that close-up is a hella good piece of art

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Comics Ladybird · May 6, 2021

Even if the scenario here is… oddly specific, I don’t think it’s a bad illustration of what can happen with a sufficiently large, unmediated audience.

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Sam Bak (they/them) · May 6, 2021

Yeah she's being completely 100% rational when it comes to protecting your identity online from fucking weirdo creeps.

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Randall Norman Pick · May 6, 2021

This is an entirely sane level of precautions

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Chris Crowther · May 6, 2021

Yeah. Marigold is 100% correct in this assumption.

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Joseph Bonnar · May 6, 2021

Marigold is right, sad to say. She's 100% correct.

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Stephen Wells · May 6, 2021

I would think Marigold was overthinking this, if this didn't literally happen to people :(

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Patrick Mac Manus · May 6, 2021

And you're telling Hanners this???????

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Nick Hodgson · May 6, 2021

Yeah, that's realistic for sure.

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Ben Russell-Gough · May 6, 2021

Marigold speaks Jeph's angst about the on-line 'rando', I think. Still, you can't say that this is wrong. There are far too many freaks out there who can't control themselves and are very dangerous when they develop an obsession, positive or negative.

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Shane Wegner · May 6, 2021

Like I said in my last post about my streamer friend entering the witness protection program variant, this kind of thing happens. That one streamer doxxed my friend down to her street, and _despite not living in her part of the country, was seen in her neighborhood and was looking in her house's windows and stuff._ Even I don't know the full story, but I assume to get into the protection program there needs to be threats of violence too. So, yeah. A medium percentage will do the creepy things like saying they "love" streamers and the nudes requests and f knows what else, but a small percentage will take it even more inappropriately IRL. Brain cells can just go haywire and think "But this makes sense! We're in love! We're fated to be together, this is my birthright!! I'll kill anyone who gets in the way of my noble quest!!" People thinking they are right when they are not is a fascinating phenomenon. The depths of the internet is a scary phenomenon.

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Dean Reilly · May 6, 2021

Marigold has 200K followers. If as few as 0.05% are potentially violent obsessives, that's still 100 dangerous nutcases.

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SilverbackRon · May 6, 2021

Marigold is right to be hyper concerned. Any woman who gains a following on the internet is bound to get a lot of weird shit in her life. And if she got doxxed? This is no minor worry.

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Chris Driggers · May 6, 2021

Hanners as the voice of reason. 🤣😬

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Bagge · May 6, 2021

She's more surprised than anyone

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darklion · May 6, 2021

Man, if I was as concerned as Marigold seems to be, I wouldn't have even told my friends.

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Captain Button · May 6, 2021

She told her one friend who must know something about coping with wealth and avoiding public notice, since she is a daughter of billionaires who walks the public streets under her real name.

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Pejo · May 6, 2021

Hanners merely adopted the Internet; Marigold was born in it, molded by it. She didn't see the real world until she was already a woman. By then, it was nothing to her but blinding.

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Miyaa · May 7, 2021

And thus that is how the Burger Oni was grilled!

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serriberry · May 6, 2021

I'm still a little bummed I missed out on getting an "Everything is Ruined Forever" shirt.

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Jen Myers · May 6, 2021

Yeah, the assumptions are a little low key, tbh.

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Absentia · May 6, 2021

She's not wrong tho...

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Todd Perkins · May 6, 2021

Have you guys seen the message boards about Jeph? OMG.

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Jeff Hartley · May 6, 2021

Nice conversation along with the death head

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Cole Blackblood · May 6, 2021

Sadly accurate for anyone putting themselves out in the world like that. Fans can get crazy

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Mad Marie · May 6, 2021

Also, Jeph: really fantastic work with the gradual zoom in to enhance the emotional dimension of her words. Nailed it!

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Mad Marie · May 6, 2021

This. (Sadly)

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Davis Fay · May 6, 2021

Yeah, it sucks to say it but that scenario is all too plausible

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Jason Zions · May 6, 2021

This is depressingly and maddeningly accurate.

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Yohannon · May 6, 2021

NO LIES DETECTED.

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Hugh Eckert · May 6, 2021

Marigold is wise.

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Yonatan Zunger · May 6, 2021

Sorry, Hanners. Marigold is not just right about this, she's right in detail to the level a professional in the field would be. Source: am a professional in the field, alas.

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VGreenGoblinV · May 6, 2021

I hate that Marigold is not wrong. Because that means that’s her paranoia is justified and she has to be scared now and that’s just not fair to women in general. Goddamnit...☹️

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Carin Maja Brooks · May 6, 2021

It's not paranoia if they're actually out to get you... And honestly, that was the biggest thing I've learned with transitioning. Being a woman is dangerous in this world, and right now the best hope is that someone else is an easier target

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melloncollic · May 6, 2021

And another quote- and very shirt-worthy saying from Marigold.

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Todd Ellner · May 6, 2021

Actually pretty optimistic. The doxing, vicious sexual harassment, SWATTing, fake nudes, targeted insults and physical violence are all probable for a prominent woman on the Internet

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Miyaa · May 6, 2021

Andy Warhol was wrong about everyone being famous for 15 minutes. It’s more like various degrees, strata, and caste of famous.

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Carrie · May 6, 2021

↑

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Eric Lusby · May 6, 2021

Normally these scenarios are spiraling anxiety thoughts (I know from experience). But on the internet, especially for a woman? Marigold is being totally sensible.

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Izzy Omega · May 6, 2021

This is the anxiety I have from streaming, and I haven't fully even set up a channel yet.

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ducksauz · May 6, 2021

It's terrible that being a woman on the internet is rife with peril.

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David Johnson · May 6, 2021

Marigold has seen enough to know what's possible.

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Darnel D Cooper · May 6, 2021

Note to self: read comments before commenting.

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Darnel D Cooper · May 6, 2021

oboy. well,... she is not wrong,......

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Lin · May 6, 2021

RIP my first reddit account before I learned about infosec. Marigold's got the right idea, unfortunately.

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Jenea Ylinen Fredrickson · May 6, 2021

The internet found that psycho cat and person killer from background information. And that was them using their powers for GOOD! Many people know what can happen in cases of doxxing and it's not pretty. Trust your instincts, Marigold.

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Vilinda · May 6, 2021

And it doesn't take long. Once the first name is figured out, it's game over.

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Simon Green · May 6, 2021

Rule 34.

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kaitou · May 6, 2021

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

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Victoria Blue · May 6, 2021

Alternately--is it still paranoia if they really *are* out to get you?

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Yelling Bird · May 6, 2021

JUST WAIT TILL 4CHAN HEARS ABOUT THIS SHIT!

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Morgan · May 6, 2021

Yeah, the internet can figure things out uncomfortably well when properly motivated, and horniness is sadly really good at motivating people.

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Lyzz · May 6, 2021

It's a terrifyingly plausible scenario tbh

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Wednesday · May 6, 2021

This is *underplaying it.*

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Grace Serenity · May 6, 2021

Marigold has lived on the internet her entire life. This is not a scenario, it's a gorram recounting of actual events!

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Mindi Young · May 6, 2021

+1 for gorram!

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Nessa Vaccaro · May 6, 2021

Being friends with somebody who got doxxed and faced extensive harassment, this is a big freaking oof

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Techy · May 6, 2021

Marigold it's wrong. But she needs to relax and breathe.

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Giant Speck · May 6, 2021

If anything, her scenario doesn't even actually assume the worst.

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Dean Reilly · May 6, 2021

She didn't even mention the inevitable flood of rape and death threats.

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MikeT · May 6, 2021

She ain't wrong

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AstralAegis · May 6, 2021

Senpai?

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Seidmadr · May 6, 2021

Fun to see Hanners as the rational one in a scenario!

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mooviies · May 6, 2021

I beg to differ... it's the internet after all

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Stéphane Lapie · May 6, 2021

The sad thing is, it's not even THAT far-fetched; it ain't paranoia when you're right

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Grace Serenity · May 6, 2021

I mean, someone tracked down Selena and murdered her in 1995. That's before the internet as we know it!

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Michael Boettger · May 6, 2021

To be fair, Marigold, you're not wrong.

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Max D S · May 6, 2021

Pintsize can force airdrop goatse to all the assholes phones

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Nicole Hands · May 6, 2021

Pintsize might *be* one of the assholes. Although, if he isn't, this would certainly be within his wheelhouse. Not sure it fixes anything, but retribution feels good sometimes.

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Erinnyes · May 6, 2021

The internet at large figured out where a flag was that could have been anywhere in the world by using the stars and aircraft contrails. Never underestimate the power of a large number of smart people with time.

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Brooks Moses · May 6, 2021

Also the time Tom Scott challenged people to figure out where he'd watched a recent eclipse from, based on some _very_ generic photos of midwest-U.S. surroundings with essentially no other data, was quite impressive. He had to reconstruct his location to centimeter accuracy to rank the top dozen or so entries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqEBvlmFAQ.

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Terry Parry · May 6, 2021

I mean, she's not wrong....

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Chris Weigert · May 6, 2021

She is absolutely not wrong…

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Alacrity Fitzhugh · May 6, 2021

She's totes not wrong.