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I actually appreciate that Marten messed up a bit here. I feel like their relationship has been going so perfectly, its unrealistic (or maybe im just jealous o-o). But anyways, I have faith that he will do better soon.
No different than Bubbles's last advice to Faye, but Marten is the world's worst boyfriend?!. (I think Bubbles and Marten are both GREAT partners. I don't know why he's getting so much flak.)
Bubbles actually listened to Faye all the way through though.
I would totally say "Control the part you can control now, the exams, and don't worry about the part you can't control now, everything in the future after the exams. " That, however, is what I always say, and it turns out only to be appropriate about a third of the time. Except to me. It is always pretty much the thing to say to me.
OK, so suppose one were in a better state than Marten when one came home from work, and picked up that this is a dutiful, tentative baring of a particularly sensitive wound of which she is maybe ashamed. Suppose that one were in one of those transient states of alertness, and got the story from her. What would be the thing to say? I hear sometimes that you don't have to say anything but only listen sympathetically, and maybe that is true sometimes, but other times the person is playing a tape over and over in their head that is making them nuts, and playing it out loud for you is just going to make them a little more nuts. I remember once I worried out loud that I was unprepared for a test to my wife and she said, flatly and unsympathetically, "That is not possible. I watched you prepare. You are scaring yourself out of your preparation." That was useful. So, what should he have said? Clearly he should have listened enough to find out what is up, but what then? Just indicate that he understands her feelings? Exhort? Advise? Console? Inquire further?
I don't think we or Marten have seen Claire struggling before and there's no way to know in advance what kind of help/support works for a person. Only Claire can offer guidance on what she needs. So maybe ask something like: "What would support look like for you right now?" (Maybe with a slightly less group therapy wording).
Because "Don't worry" always works.
Wow. So many people here think Marten should be a mindreader. smdh
A mind reader? Claire was literally in the process of telling him what was up when he interrupted her with a well-meaning but dismissive comment. He doesn't have to read minds, he just has to listen to his girlfriend, because she's in the middle of telling him that she's upset and why.
Somehow from that last panel, I sense that eye-Twitches are On the Way. ;)
Next comic: Marten gets a bucketful of dildos on his head.
If Pintsize doesn't do something horrible to him after that, I'll honestly be disappointed.
Poor Claire... I know exactly how unhelpful the phrase "don't worry about it" is to one who is clearly and uncontrollably worrying about "it", whatever it is. Marten... THAT HAD BETTER BE THE FINEST CHINESE FOOD THE CITY CAN OFFER AND YOU STILL HAVE TO HELP CLAIRE THROUGH THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE USUALLY BETTER THAN "DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT" YOU COMPLETE SANDHEAD!!!
Right up there with "well, try to cheer up" to a depressed person, really.
From the early days of QC, I liked to read Pintsize as an unconscious part of Marten himself. I still enjoy this interpretation a lot.
Marten what the FUCK?
He's doing an 'established couple' thing: Only pretend to listen when you ask "How was your day, dear?"
Much as it cops large amounts of flak, the "I will listen to see if I can help somehow" approach has the advantage of indicating that one is actually listening.
"How can I help?" is incredibly underrated as a response.
Everybody derps sometimes
The award for Least Observant Boyfriend 2018 goes to... Marten! Seriously, Claire, this looks like it's going to be tough. I suggest that you follow him and keep talking to him. Yes, I know that having to explain your anxiety to Marten will likely only add to it but I can't see any other way forwards here!
Great! Just when we get a plot line involving Marten again there will be nothing but endless complaining about how he's a terrible boyfriend.
Not terrible; he's just failing to observe.
Hmm. So why is she reading about the "Principals of Library Science"? Shouldn't Library Science be about more than just the Principals, but also about the teachers, the students, and various other people at the school? ;)
Because she’s super stressed and reviewing every old book she has.....or, Jeph doesn’t know the full curriculum of an MLS/MLIS. Granted, no one does besides those of us who have done it really, and even then, it varies depending upon specialization and school.
Why is no one understanding that Marten did exactly the right thing to restore Claire's confidence in herself?
Then why is she back in the "EVERYTHING'S FINE" face?
Unsure why everyone is blaming Marten there. Sure, he could have picked up on that, but he just got home from work and he's hungry. That being said, there will be an epic meltdown shortly and Pintsize will beat Marten with a dildo until he realises something is wrong.
Or maybe he'll open that door and the box of dildoes will fall on top of him, and knock some sense into the boy.
Good talk.
Well, there's nothing quite like an attentive boyfriend... and Marten? That was <b>nothing</b> like an attentive boyfriend.
Meh, my wife appreciates me bringing bringing her food more than just about anything else.
Yeah, cue meltdown. The don't worry about it response is the *worst*. If I think I'm going to fail or I'm just majorly stressed about something, dismissing my problems and telling me everything is going to be fine is the opposite of helpful. There needs to be acknowledgement of the fears and worries at the very least.
You know you rolled a natural one on your Wisdom check when Pintsize succeeds his check.
YOU INCOMPARABLE DUNDERFUCK
I don't like where this is going..
Oh Marten! That's boyfriend obliviousness taken to the next level. Wake up dude, Claire is falling apart!
The glasses. They're getting larger. And larger! This strip may soon be nothing but one giant optical prosthetic.
I see the axiom that Faye and Marten can't be in relationships at the same is still holding.
How do you figure that? They <b>are</b> both in relationships. Sure, Marten missed the ball on this play, but that certainly doesn't mean he's heading for a breakup.
Jeph, this... this guy used to be your main character, your "relatable" protagonist long, long ago. Have you outgrown him or has he outgrown you? <_>
There is hope for him however— remember the time he tore his shirt off to bandage a snakebite?
Who is this guy? I sort of remember him from a long time ago.
Cue delayed cognition over noodles.
If she's stressed, wouldn't the whole "it's no big thing" response be good? To indicate she's stressing needlessly?
Except that right now she needs to talk it out more. After hearing what's going through her head, Martin can then provide a more nuanced response.
It's bad when Pintsize is more on the ball than you. Roboto Steal Yo Girl's gonna happen.
Ughhhhhh Martin is the weakest character in the strip. Martin, pls
OK, seriously everyone. Martin is a dude's dude in his obliviousness. He'll need the clue by four, and then apologies profusely. This is how this HAD to start out.
Make it the clue by four with nails in it. This is Marten we're talking about here. The regular clue by four is barely sufficient to get him to notice something.
I'm one card short of a full deck I'm not quite the shilling One wave short of a shipwreck I'm not my usual top billing I'm coming down with a fever I'm really out to sea This kettle is boiling over I think I'm a banana tree Oh dear I'm going slightly mad
I knew Marten was passive but damn. Claire’s gonna have a meltdown shortly...
It's not so much passivity as it is continuity. As far as Marten is aware, this is all that is needed because it's all that was needed before.
MARTEN PLEASE. Have you learned nothing?
This is the sort of thing that will cause the robot revolution. The more robots get sucked into trying to help, the more they will realize that humans desperately need supervision in every part of their lives.
Cue Willliamson's Humanoids.
Swing and a miss, strike one. Keep your eye on the ball, Marten.
Pintsize's art installation needs to fall on Marten's head and knock some sense into him. Grrrrr.
Now Pintsize is going to have to talk to Marten.
I live in a part of the world where I can not order Chinese nor Tex-Mex. And I am sad. Really need to learn how to make chimichangas on my own.
It's pretty easy, just make a burrito and then deep fry it.
That last straw is bending wildly
Also I really wanna see her just fucking CRUSH that exam. All the while terrified that she's making horrible mistakes.
The exam is only half of the concern. She's also extremely worried about getting a job after she's done.
Oh Marten. Oh sweetie. Oh honey.
Bless his heart.
Sorry, Claire, but Marten is used to Faye meltdowns and Dora freakouts. You're gonna have to be a LOT more demonstrative before he starts taking your seriously.
i feel like Claire is minutes away from a full on breakdown
Marten you fucking IDIOT. Quit being so passively supportive and open your goddamn EARS!
PASSIVENESS INTENSIFIES
Maybe pintsize should have recommended Bubbles?
Marten, please.
Oh fuuuuuuuuuck
BUCKETS of Fuck.
no wonder they get along so well. they're BOTH kinda idiots.
*exasperated noises*
GOD DAMMIT MARTEN, YOU COMPLETE DOOFUS
this is where you put your foot down and say "I need to talk yo you! listen damn it."
This. So much this. Sometimes, you just really need to be blunt with people.
/facepalm
Omfg -_-
