Shadow Wolves February 2023
The boyz discuss what they're watching/reading and talk about The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years (1988)!
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About a third of the way through Adventures in the Screentrade. If you haven’t read it you really should, fantastically fun read.
Really appreciate the Boyz getting real about people who are forced to live out on the streets- it’s a fucking tragedy that we should all be talking about
We need an “Action Boyz” movie and a Kickstarter asap. I want to see a dolly in shot of Gabrus, lens flare and all, saying “We got company” and a wife witnessing a throat pullout. Maybe a Joshua Tree podcast trip turns into mistaken identify and the fun/action ensues? 🤷🏽♂️ I’ll volunteer to Steadicam op it.
Goose flesh
Does rodgers really have a new podcast?
Outside of his own talent, one of the reasons Graham Norton gets the types of interviews that he does is that there's an open bar in the Green Room, and guests get to bring their drinks onstage. They're pre-gaming for a good while beforehand.
That Mustaine quote reminded me of the Megadeth behind the music, “being addicted to heroin is like making love to a gorilla, you don’t stop til the gorilla stops” ..and the uh, Chris Holmes looks a lot like Greg Olsen right?
Shaq’s insistence that you can save money by filling up your gas tank with $20 when it’s half empty would be a good Shadow Wolves opener
Bautista was good in Hotel Artemis with Jodi Foster
Remember that song Alice Cooper did for Friday the 13th Part 6? AND HE'S OUT TONIGHT AND HE'S WATCHING YOU *AND HE KNOWS YOUR HOUSE* (???)
Also “hard rock summer in the USA”.
Have we all lost something on a field trip?
Action faction, I got to recommend this french movie that just came out in the states; Full Time. My movie of the year so far. Single mother hanging on by a thread, movie takes place over a week where transit employees are on strike so she is always racing to get somewhere on time. She is trying to hold onto a hotel job while applying for a better one. Heart was racing basically the whole time, put your phone away for this one.
Do you think Ozzy actually ate that raw bacon?
This was a terrific Shadow Wolves. The movie wasn't quite the Great Courses series I was hoping it would be that went deep into the history of metal and its different subgenres, but it was still a great watch. I remember seeinga clip of a guy emptying a bottle of vodka in his mouth while floating in a pool at some point in my childhood, and now I know where it came from. It's funny what lives in your long term memory. Did anyone see a documentary called "Shock Rock" that went deep into the Satanic and harmful aspects of metal and rap? This would have been in the late 80s when 2 Live Crew was on the scene. That's where I learned about "I Used To Love Her" by Guns n' Roses.
Sorry for being that Shadow Wolf, but Graham Norton is Irish
I am irrationally stoked for next month’s all calls ep
Gotta disagree with Ben - Hair metal was unfortunately alive and well in 1988 and was until grunge killed it in a day when Smells Like Teen Spirit was released. Was my freshman year of high school, and I remember it vividly. Pearl Jam wasn't too far behind Nirvana, and Poison was an uncool joke inside of a month.
To me, Spinal Tap was spoofing 70's and 80's bands like Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, and Rainbow and some NWOBHM bands who aren't hair metal bands, but we're their progenitors in some ways. I was a "real" metal head - I liked bands like Metallica and Slayer and Nirvana didn't really hurt them like they did bands like Poison, Ratt, Warrant, Dangerous Toys, etc. The hair metal guys were a separate group of "poser" metal heads primarily interested in those bands to get laid because girls liked hair metal, but they were definitely still around when I was a freshman in suburban Kansas City in September of 91. As soon as those girls started liking grunge, the dudes who like hair metal dropped it like a bad habit. Seattle was a microcosm like LA, but LA had already spread out, and Seattle usurped those LA bands in every way, save for maybe GnR, who had fans in the "real" metal scene and the hair metal scene.
Definitely recommend the book that The Knock at the Cabin is based on. I've been on a Paul Tremblay kick lately and loving it. Especially Survivor Song and Head Full of Ghosts
Check out his book The Little Sleep. I feel like the Boyz would like it, too. It's about a private eye with severe narcolepsy (including hypnogogic hallucinations, memory loss, other issues) investigating a case of blackmail. It's great.
Great ep. Much as I love the laughs on the podcast, some of my favorite moments are when you guys get stone cold serious about the worst aspects of the industry. I'm enjoying Last Of Us but absolutely agree that zombies are beyond exhausted at this point. Recently finished the final episodes of Walking Dead for no reason besides inertia and it was an incredible slog to the finish line. It basically ends with ads for three more spinoff shows, just wild hubris on their part. But who knows, maybe they'll do well. Personal film viewing recently, had a blast with the Shaw Brothers' 1985 "Hong Kong Godfather". Multiple machete battles, buckets of blood, full frontal nudity, organized crime drama galore, and a final ten minutes in a shopping mall that is balls to the wall. Did I mention a little kid gets a wrestling backbreaker and then defenestrated?? It's brutal, it's cheesy, it's action movie heaven.
I am thankful for this doc, otherwise glam metal might have kept on trucking. I think Megadeth comes out alright in the aftermath but otherwise it’s all stinkers.
The history of heavy metal by Andrew O’Neil is a pretty great(and very subjective) view at metal.
As a child growing up in the 80s, the M*A*S*H theme “Suicide is Painless” is my trigger to change the channel after Saturday morning cartoons are over. Still have never seen a single episode. Lot of trauma.
ABZ Library has been updated with books mentioned/recommended over the last few episodes: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/162873.The_Action_Boyz_Library
I just recently joined Goodreads. Is there a way I can subscribe to this list that I’m not seeing?
So who do we think that kid rocker's dad is? She definitely hauls that kid to shows trying to get backstage to introduce him to his dad.
Very glad to have this comment section (where only the smartest wittiest funniest people are allowed to post). This is a good outlet for me personally so I don’t inflict things like the Friedkin voice on my friends/family. Stay safe Wolvez,
We're all riding the high of being class clown
I love kids in the hall but I think the state holds up better these days
KITH is pretty timeless, and their new season is a back to form sensation (streaming on Prime). The State is good, but doesn’t hold my affection like KITH does. Prime also has the documentary, Comedy Punks, which is about their rise & fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF_AtsT-V1Y This is the Barkley video that made Stangers mom a fan. It's worth watching the whole thing, but the elbow (1:15) is preceded by a hard foul that Chuck takes exception to. The only thing that would make this clip better is if it was former shadowwolves star, Pat O'brien throwing it to Marv Albert instead of Costas.
Growing up in Phoenix and having Barkley on the suns was a real treat. I wish Jordan gave him a championship like he gave one to the rockets. That series was exciting but heartbreaking. There are so many great stories out there about him being a cool guy. Barkley is forever my favorite basketball player.
Back in the day our roofing crew frequently called into Tawn Mastrey’s 93X show to request songs and rip on our boss Keith. Later that summer a couple of us stopped by her radio booth at the State Fair to say hi. She put us on the air and we zinged Keith before introducing A Perfect Circle tune. Cool lady. RIP Leather Nun and Keith.
Anyone check out the film Aftersun? Favorite movie ive seen in a long time. About a kid on vacation with her dad in the 90's. Autobiographical, and soo damn good if you let it wash over you, do its thing. Small Scottish movie, but the dad got an Oscar nom for it. Great stuff.
Plus the dad is trying to teach her karate. So good.
I love this show so much
Me too. Ever since I started listening, it's been the only podcast I want to listen to. I'm 40+ episodes behind in my Hollywood Handbook feed because of this podcast, except for the Ben Rodgers episode that jumped to the front of the queue.
What is their issue with the pec deck?
This doc may have a collection of the worst musical performances I’ve ever seen. I saw this years ago, but this time it really hit me how bad glam metal was.
The occasional cut to a wideshot of a very unenthused crowd is **chef's kiss**
Tightrope (1984) is grim fun. Clint Eastwood, in maybe his most believable role, as a detective who loves to fuck. Geneviève Bujold, from Coma, is great as a counselor for rape victims. And set in New Orleans, for fans of James Sallis's Lew Griffin books, or James Lee Burke's Dave Robicheaux series.
I’m with Gabrus, I definitely think the pegging video is staged.
Agree. The timing is too suspect.
Happy Declineruary everyone !
I would give Southside on hbomax a watch. Great show. Really funny.
I think I remember a story about Spheeris where David Spade said she basically made him fuck her while he was on a movie she was directing? Anyone else remember this? Can't find it in a quick search.
That was actually Amy Heckerling and Chris Kattan. Sad I know that without googling
I’m stunned people in the US ever liked Corden. He is a first class bellend who I thought had left British telly because people had finally tired of him. I couldn’t believe it was due to huge success in the States.
There's gotta be a dozen episodes of M*A*S*H you could cherry-pick that The Boyz would love, or at least appreciate. I used to dig it as a kid – mostly the later stuff post-laugh track – even if it was dusty as hell and I didn't get the innuendo. Maybe I just loved watching TV...
I can’t stop laughing, almost forgot about that Kelsey Grammer clip 🤣🤣🤣