UNCUT - Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

Josh - "Good for him for being alive" High praise indeed 🤣

Lex "Destroy the Superman franchise" Nuclear Man "Easily done" Finally found time to watch this one. What a turd of a movie. Shame this is where CR's Superman signed off. Also came out the same year TNG started. And without saying too much, the first TNG movie is fairly cinematic and has some sequences that are impressive to this day, and that's only 7 years ahead of this movie. Just makes this one feel even more embarrassing. Looking forward to Returns though. The movie has some missteps, but it captured the spirit of Reeves' Superman and benefitted greatly from 20 years of advancement in film making.

I am interested to see your reaction to Superman Returns. It's usually not a fan favorite. I happen to like it; I think it is a good movie, just not a good superhero movie.

Mark Pillow (Nuclear Man) does convention appearances and is on Facebook. A good guy. He truly reminded me of a professional wrestler in the movie.

Just wanted to mention that for this entry, only the famous title motif is by John Williams. He didn't write the score for the rest of it - all the other music is by Alexander Courage, composer of the Star Trek:TOS title theme. Everything comes back to Star Trek around here.

It’s a Golan Globus movie. They don’t care about anything but spending as little as possible to earn as much as possible.

The movie was 90 minutes cut down from somewhat over 2 hours. Things that were dropped were an entire prototype Nuclear Man sequence, a fleshing out of the Clark/Lacy relationship including their parting. More about Luthor playing the US against Russia to rebuild the nuclear stockpiles. A sequence where Nuclear man actually becomes a missile to threaten to start WW3, Nuclear man first meeting Lacy and becoming infatuated, Superman actually visiting the boy at school to tell him personally he could not rid the world of weapons. The budget was slashed due to studio troubles and it shows. The reason why Superman rebuilt the Great Wall with beams from the eyes was because it was cheaper than the original plan of animating a super speed Superman rebuilding the wall.

You guys should watch Supergirl (1984) as part of this series. It came out between Superman III and IV, and is so 80s and weird. Same producers as Superman 1-3

So many terrible moments to pick from. But my favorite awful scene has to be Mariel Hemingway breathing in space.

Imagine a group of teenage comic book junkies, aged between 16 and 19 years old, all getting together to see the highly anticipated “Superman IV” in the Summer of 1987. The summer before, we’d all gone together to see “Aliens”, “The Fly” and even “Howard the Duck”! But this was going to be THE MOVIE EVENT of our young lives. Now imagine the looks on all our faces when this celluloidal shit stain on Humanity’s trousers finally rolled credits. I learned then and there a very important lesson about filmmaking…if you ain’t in it to win it, then get the fuck out of the game. A lot of broken hearts were had that day. Such is the power of cinema. P.S. At least our faith was restored two years later when “Batman” hit theaters in 1989!

Hope you guys give 1984’s “Supergirl” a watch at some point. It came out between Superman 3 & 4 - and is very much part of the Christopher Reeve cinematic universe!

Yeah, this one is BAD. And I don't fault Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Margot Kidder, etc. - they gave it their best. Apparently, this movie was originally budgeted for like $35 million and got cut down to $17 million because they farmed it out to Cannon Pictures (who were low budget action movie makers in the 80's). Further, about 45 minutes of footage was cut from the film. The movie still made $80 million at the box office, but was such as critical failure it put a nail in the coffin of the Superman franchise for about 20 years. It has some enjoyable moments, and I will always love Christopher Reeve as the Man of Steel. But congrats to you guys for sitting through it!

"Why not drop him into the dark depths of the ocean?" Because that's a lot more expensive than a moon set!

I always liked Nuclear Man as a villain. Plus Jon Cryer went on to play Lex Luthor in the Supergirl show. He was actually pretty great as Lex too!

The Batman/Superman Movie (1990s, animated, much superior version of Batman V Superman!)

It’s crazy to realize how undesirable comic book properties were back then, that Canon would buy the rights to freakin’ Superman and then put such little effort into it.

Dear God no

I haven't seen this since it was at the cinema. I went with my buddy and we were the only ones who didn't walk out - only because my dad was picking us up and we had been threatened not to wander off. 😂 (Incidentally - years later I found out that the dude who played nuclear man v1 in the deleted scenes lived down the street from us 😮)

Wow. A Patron should pay you triple your rate to sit through this.