UNCUT - Suspicions (TNG S6E22) | Star Trek Journey 268
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Forgot to say in my initial comment, but only 30 TNG eps left to go
Could have easily bought the Ferengi out
I like this one, somewhere between a B and an A. I love how when most main characters do combat it’s mostly double fists, sucker punches and the odd kick, but when someone threatens Dr Crusher she unleashes a spinning heel kick then phasers a hole in the guy, before cranking that phaser up and erasing him from existence.
Meh. Should have been a Geordi episode. He'd be the one into the tech. Why an MD?
Although when talking to Picard in the Paklads episode Geordi said Worf was the expert on shields even though he almost never is shown to figure anything out technical. But yeah...in past episodes when people discuss anything technical outside of Medicine she has shown zero interest or aptitude. But hey...m
Definitely one of the better Dr Crusher episodes. Great to see Guinan again.
I want the Nagus to be DS9's Transfigurations. AKA The greatest episode of the entire series
Did you forget how much you enjoyed "Ethics"?
No
I hate this episode In order for Beverley to solve the mystery the entire cast had to sit on their thumbs. In any other case the whole bridge crew would be pulling double shifts to solve the caper and look out for each other. Instead of helping, Riker is telling her to take the 'L', Picard can't be bothered to lift a finger, and Data is business as usual
I was completely checked out during this episode. Boring as fuck. I prefer episodes I can hate.
For me, I really like Gates McFadden, so it's great to see a Beverly focussed episode, but something just seems off here. The plot is fine, but some of the characterization bothers me. We've seen Dr. Crusher be good at problem-solving and gathering evidence before (Remember Me, Clues, etc.), but here she just seems kind of reckless and eager to jump to conclusions. Even in Man of the People, when Troi's life is at stake, and Beverly is adamant about doing an autopsy on Alcar's "mother", she still only proceeds once Picard has given his permission. Yet here, it seems like she risks her career a little too easily for my taste. Even ignoring that, she puts her own life on the line by stealing the shuttle, assuming it was sabotaged with very little evidence. Just doesn't quite work for me, but I can understand if I'm in the minority here.
Jo'bril is a brave man. What if Beverly decided it was necessary to remove his heart or even his head in the autopsy of his 'corpse'? I doubt he could survive that...
Shes not an expert on shields, she just happened to be at a science conference and thought Reyga's ideas were interesting and that he wasn't being taken seriously enough
Gotta say this episode does make Worf look bad as a security officer. Can't help but think Odo would have been on top of this
Dr Solar is NOT on the Enterprise the whole time, they said she was head of the Vulcan Science Academy which makes her a super big deal and she would be on Vulcan most of the time
That was the other Vulcan in this episode.
My guess is the death ritual is some type of certification- without it they can't authenticate and sell the body parts
I like this episode and it is a good Crusher episode, but it is nevertheless yet another example of the trend that as far as the actual practice of medicine Crusher just winds up being the worst or at doctor we see in the franchise, or at least the one that we see doing the least in the practice of medicine. We see McCoy practicing medicine a lot, and to great effect. We'll see the doctors in the other series do more, though obviously anything specific would be a spoiler. For as unpopular as she is, we even saw Pulaski practice more medicine more effectively in one season than we have seen from Crusher in all the rest.
I thought it was... pretty good lol
I'm confused so did the feringi scientist kill himself? or did that guy kill him. I assume he did kill himself and that beverly was wrong about that
Hilarious take, I love it
For expansion on Dr. Selar, try the Star Trek: New Frontier books by the recently departed Peter David (he has some iconic TNG books to his credit, too). We're deep enough in that the first few shouldn't contain spoilers.
At the start Beverly is wearing pantyhose. Did she pick that up from the Dixon Hill holodeck program
I like this episode. It backhandedly addresses concerns I've had about the plausibility of Klingon culture actually spawning scientists and scientific advancement.
I always pictured Klingon scientists revered the way a blacksmith is. "Look at this cool new spear-head I made, it stabs AND bashes" So a scientist that works on shields is something they get, but if you're a 'pure science' scientist that just wants to learn things where the practical applications are vague, it's like looking at some weirdo at the forge "Look, I made this weird squiggle thing. That's kinda neat"
I’m honestly as surprised as you guys that so many people dislike or flat out hate this episode! I’d call it a B- (maybe C+ if you think too hard about it). It’s definitely one that you could pick apart. Like, why was Beverly instantly reinstated?? They just gloss over that at the end and it’s a bit rushed back to normal.
For me it's a baseline banger. Nothing extraordinary but fun moments with Beverly, Guinan and a twist I didn't anticipate at all to round out the mystery. Also, the final scene with Guinan has to push it to B territory.
13:10 Of course, none of this would actually be possible. The gravity from the sun would squish you flat before you even thought of getting close.
No "Mr. Worf, Fire" at Beverly's shuttle, eh? I found myself saying it lol, the meme has infected me!
I picture Worf as Danny Devito saying “Oh, no you don’t” before shooting the shuttle. 😂
The dead guy isn’t dead? What is this, DS9?
They literally started off discussing "The Nagus" too, lol.
I don't know there's So many better episodes they have crapped on for less, none of this makes any sense, the guys love crusher and I think it blinds them to the utter raotten plotting. Guessing if it were anyone else we'd get the inevitable "Where's Deanna" but nary a word here. Where was Worf or Geordi, both of whom would merit being in this story. this looked like a contract filled for Bev
This one reminds me of the writing quality of the paperback books, which tend to be told through the eyes of one crew member, and are often read by that actor in the audiobook versions.
Where was worf he’s head of security why is a doctor leading the investigation. This episode is just terrible
This episode never made too much sense to me. This should have been a Geordi episode as the topic was not a medical one but engineering. It made no sense for Beverly to be involved. Plus I hate voiceovers and flashbacks.
I like the small consistencies within this episode, like when Crusher says Jo'brill has organs arranged equally throughout his body which makes him resistant to injuries, so when she later shoots a hole through his body he's like nah all good.
liking the shirts you guys are wearing
biggest complaint was she was relived from duty for a illegal autopsy, not because she couldn't solve a murder, so she shouldn't have been reinstated for solving it specially after stealing a shuttle and disobeying orders, there should have been monologue of the family forgiving her for proving the tech works and earning them a profit
Extremely typical Federation behavior - if you break the rules, you better have had great results from it. They seems to have a very strong ends justify the means culture. Notice how Picard first asked if she found anything from the autopsy, and only after she said no did he scold her about it.
The shuttlecraft Justman...as in Robert (Bob) Justman of TOS?
yeah and first time i noticed it. they did make sure to linger on the name
No mention of Deanna being conveniently absent until the very end, when it's too late to be of any use? Again. Awful.
I love this episode, my second favourite Beverly one after Remember Me. A
Never understood how in the 24th Century one would need to cut a body open for an autopsy when the doctors all have tricorders.
Yet again, a member of the Enterprise crews gets away with something with zero consequences. Who needs metaphasic shielding when you have plot armour?
Takes a bit to find its feet and the narration feeling a little clunky or hokey and times didnt help. IMO a solid B Tier
Based on the comments so far, I may score another weirdo point by saying this is my favorite Beverly Crusher episode (followed by Transfigurations, which is her big Doctor with a capital-D, episode). Is it a little weird that she's championing obscure shield harmonics theories? Yeah, sure. But, based on her established passion for theater, I can absolutely see her getting drawn into the drama and intrigue of the mystery. Plus she's an active protagonist for almost the entire episode, which TNG was Really Bad At when it came to its female core characters.
Transfigurations mention!
Clearly, "The Nagus" is an iconic episode, given how much you bring it up! S-tier!
Honorary S
Filed under it’s fine. Never winning any awards, but it’s neither horrible or great. I can understand why the producers wanted to focus on Beverly, she is sorely underused at time
The Ferengi are only against an autopsy because if you want one, it's not going to be free. Obviously, they must be compensated for the "estimated loss" in value of shares of the body. ;)
They didn't have any latinum onboard to pay the fee. Only self sealing stem bolts
So much that makes me angry about this episode 1) This should have been a Geordi episode. Wtf would Beverly organize a confab of engineers/scientists? 2) Wastes Beverly by making her the focus in a crappy episode. Write her into a good story that actually suits her character! 3) Another reason that would be a spoiler, so I won’t flag it here. The only thing that makes this fun is Bev’s spin kick.
I agree this episode is horrible, plus they would sell parts of the body not bury it. This is such a blah episode, shit I’d watch the nagus 14 times than this one.
I really liked that Guinan pointed out the difference between a patient and a subordinate Crusher has to order somewhere. Crusher does have a full commander rank, so that must be a consideration sometime.
This is one of the handful I remember watching as it aired. I liked the episode a lot at first but on rewatch it’s a fine episode. I think the mixed reaction is partly how the TNG audience feels about Beverly. I always liked the character but I know that feeling certainly isn’t unanimous.
I was thinking about that Vulcan scientist’s husband. He did a decent job playing a human married to a Vulcan. He’s emotional, but clearly restrains himself, probably out of habit
Regarding Worf as the episode lead: > The story went through many versions. Originally, it featured Worf and included film noir elements such as flashbacks, dissolves and voiceover narration. Rick Berman only hesitantly approved this, feeling that the voiceovers would conflict with the captain's log. > Worf was replaced with Beverly Crusher as the staff thought that he was being overused. Jeri Taylor recalled, "What I really wanted was a vehicle for Beverly. I felt we had given Troi some really nice things to do, Beverly has had more to do within a number of episodes but she did not have one that was all hers. We wanted to give her something atypical and not a female role. The idea of her playing a Private Eye or Quincy was very appealing." I think it was the right choice
Always kind of liked this one. Nothing amazing but some good stuff. IIRC the phaser body “hole” was new FX technology, not long after the movie When Death Becomes her. B-
"I saw.....the sun." Cameraman "What are you telling me for? You're breaking the 4th wall dude" So yeah, I guess this is a more divisive episode than I thought. I always liked it. Probably my favourite use of Crusher on the show. I agree with the take that she was never meant to be portrayed as the expert on this tech, and we see her consulting with Worf and Data in areas she's not an expert. It's nice to see her passionate about something, and Action Crusher fighting Jo'Bril in the shuttle was fun. Dude walking around with a bowling ball sized hole in his stomach freaked me out as a kid though. Guess he doesn't even need a spine to stand up. Also good use of Guinan. It does highlight however how little Crusher is used in the show. Aside from missing S2, Remember Me, The Host, and The High Ground are about the only eps I can think of offhand where Crusher takes centre stage. She has fairly prominent roles in eps like Cause and Effect or Ethics, but Ethics was much more a Worf episode, and C&E was an ensemble episode. Anyway, B+. Solid episode
Looked up James Horan who played Jo'Bril. Looks like he has a lot of acting experience, especially voice acting which includes a great number of video games.
What I love about this episode is, it shows all these other species are not just a "planet of hats" (as SFDebris calls it). Not all Klingons are warriors, not all Ferengi are obsessed with profit, etc. I always love when they show different characters that breaks the stereotypes and planet-tropes. I would imagine for example that there are Klingons that detest honor, or anarchist Cardassians that are anti-State. lol Or even Bajroan Atheists that don't believe in The Prophets at all. Society is never end-all, be-all, and I don't care what planet we're talking about. Unification touches upon this, that the youth is beginning to reject the Romulan way of thinking. I dunno...maybe I just identify with the outliers of society. :)
“Planet of the Hats” is listed on TV Tropes and I think it originates from “Partners in Crime” (Doctor Who).
If they did a ST show where every week a guest gets murdered and the crew has to solve the case I would be totally fine with that.
CSI: Starfleet
This is what Beverly gets for coming back to the show. I always preferred Pulaski. ;)
Would you have winked in real life after saying this ?
Ugh, “Suspicions”. I’ll watch it, but I’m not excited to. 🤣
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