PATRON TAKES - DS9 S1E12

Another episode that doesn’t quite hit the mark for me. DS9 is still setting up its cast and story direction. I do like how Quark and Odo are progressing.

Lies, lies and more lies. Personally, I don't trust people who lie to me even once, let alone every time they open their mouth. But you do you Odo.

“”How much of it was true? any of it, any of it””

Imo, this one sets a high bar for S1 character development. The nebulae shots are gorgeous, Odo's conflict between his sense of justice and desire to know who he is and where he comes from is well done (he even tries to hide his intentions from Quark while questioning him). Rene Auberjonois's (Awe-bear-zhone-wah's) ability to express such deep emotion while wearing the full Odo mask is a credit to his skill as an actor. Now we know those living in the Gamma Quadrant call shapeshifters Changelings! Odo longs to know where he came from but he is a very introverted/guarded character. What other tidbits do you want to learn about Odo and how would you like them to unfold?

Ah yes, the "I'm a security chief not a combat pilot." episode. A nice homage to TOS's "I'm a doctor not a (fill in the blank)." quotes.

The Journey of ODO’s quest to solve the mystery of his past begins: Now we can call him Frodo

Time to play, "What detail derailed your entire watch of this episode?!" Here was mine: THEIR CHOKERS WENT THROUGH THEIR NECKS! Am I the only one that hyper fixated on this?! That was so weird!!! Also decent Odo episode

This one falls short of its potential for me, unfortunately. I like Croden and I think the actor did a great job, I like the teasing of Odo's origins, I like Quark's scenes. But somehow it feels like the episode is less than the sum of its parts. 6/10 (low B). Still a good episode, but it should have been great.

The alien guest stars are somewhat annoying, but it’s a nice Odo story.

This is one of those season one episodes that I will occasionally see on reruns and think it's from a later season because I don't remember season one having as many good episodes as it actually does.

Great Episode for Odo. for the first time we see him humanized, he's not 100% about duty, but doing whats right, even if it flies in the face of "justice"

Love that they fleshed Odo's story out a bit more in this one and just enough to get everyone's imagination going, including Odo's. Were you surprised by his decision with Croden at the end?

- Great guest characters. - Solid Quark an Odo moments. “How DARE you suggest that my brother set up this robbery!” “What an interesting theory, Rom.” 🤣🤣

My wife and I are both authors. My stories tend to be plot driven and they happen to have people in them. Her stories are about people that happen to be going through stuff. But when we work together on stories, we get interesting settings, characters, and plotlines. That's what I love about Deep Space Nine. It's so character driven, but not at the expense of story telling. Really like this one , odo is such an intriguing character it's always great when we get to learn bits about him . Engage

Two inches forward. Ten inches back. In which direction does Odo--?:GUNSHOT:

Good episode giving some hints to Odo's back story. I think the lead guess actor was good.

Inquiry, does this make you more interested in Odo? or did you feel it was more like an annoying bunch of questions with no answers ?

I like the whole premise of the episode, but the introduction of the Miradorn was a highlight. Cool ship, like the whole Twin thing, just think they were a cool concept. But I hate them too. Leave our Odo alone 😂

Oh no, a shapeshifters greatest weakness: ROCK!

such a tease. both character and episode. Love it.

I liked this one a lot, even if some parts don't make a lot of sense (as others pointed out - how the heck does Odo get knocked out? He literally has no centralised brain in what he has shaped into his head). Odo needed some more depth to his character (as they all do this early on, but give it time :-) ) and he gets it. Good guest star, too! He made me care about his fate and I was so happy when he and his daughter got to safety with the Vulcans.

This episode is where I became invested in the show when it originally aired. I liked that it was largely not involving Star Fleet or The Federation. It is also a great illustration of how separate they are from the core of Federation territory.

Another season 1 lets-invest-in-character-lore episode. Can't complain! Loved it.

This episode was our first tiny piece of Odo’s origins that left us wanting more.

Starting to rummage through the depths of Odo's mysterious past? Hell yeah, I'm in. I wonder if you guys have any theories yet of how his character is going to grow? He showed a level of compassion for Croden that I didn't expect.

Odo is a fave character of mine so I love this episode - again it’s another grey area ending and Odo’s origins are a compelling mystery

5/10. U can cut like 50% of the episode and it would still retain its value, like a borg cube! I like how Quark word things right to not incriminate himself.

Despite his fascist tendencies we learn Odo does have a heart. A strength of this series is even in an action heavy space battle adventure episode we get a heavy dose of character development. This is a top 3 Season 1 episode.

While more Odo lore is appreciated(more of a hint at his origins than lore really) I never much cared for this one. I get why Odo let the guy go, but he was a murderer, so it seemed rather out of character for him. Also how do you go from mace to the face being no issue in the pilot to getting knocked out by rocks?

For me the Episode starts kind of "meh", but to be honest at the end an easy A if not S. There are few episodes in all of Star Trek where I do a complete 180 about a character, but at the end I was glad about the happy ending for the guest character. Also Odo for sure is not afraid to adjust his moral compass when new circumstances come up. A very good trait to have!

Odo gets hit in the head by a rock, and it knocks him out. Does that make any sense? He doesn't actually have a solid brain inside of a solid skull to get knocked around after all. I feel like in hindsight this should be something he could probably deal with more easily?

A nice little show starting to explore Odo and the mystery of where he comes from more, and showing his perspective is more about Justice rather than the law.

There can never be enough Odo in an episode. A disappointing ending though, but I suppose that was the point.

This has always felt like a "we have to address the mystery we set up with this character, but it's too early to reveal anything" episode to me, so it feels very much like it's spinning it's wheels a bit. It's fine. Its necessary. But its also kinda bland.

Honestly how can Odo even be a glass like how does he exist like that

I know this is an Odo episode. Howevet, Avery Brooks really impressed me on how he plays crazy.

One thing DS9 does well is spotlight characters. Here we get our first real "Odo" episode and some lore about his origins and just what exactly he might be.

Question for you guys: At what point in the show, if at all, are you hoping the mystery of Odo's origins will be revealed? Do you want answers or would you like it to be teased out over the entire series? (It was at about this point in season 1 of TNG that Data's mysterious origin was fully answered in "Datalore".)

Do you have any prediction about Odo’s origins, or if we’ll ever find out the truth?

It's weird AF that guys realized a reaction to "The Changing" the other day with no knowledge of this potential Odo lore in this episode.