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What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S6E4 - Relics
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Aye Geordi, & if my Grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon !
S for silly super spheres, synthetic spirits and synthetic second officers. S for Sariel Rager at the helm. S for Scotty getting enough to do for once. S for the superb send-off. There’s a bit of dumbassery, but whatevs, it is… it is… it is green.
It's just a really memorable episode for me. I saw it when I was a kid and took Scotty's life lessons to heart!
Good to see Scotty, but the episode as a whole was rather underwhelming to me. I can only rate it a C.
Just tossing some Dyson trivia. I read a NASA study about Dyson spheres. When you are standing on the inside edge, the bulk of the sphere is above you pulling you up (toward the center). The up force is enough to negate the downward force exerted by the hull under you. So no gravity. To spin it is impractical cause the different speeds of the equator and the poles would tear known materials apart. So it sounds like the sun will just suck in everything not nailed down.
By this point in the series I had already gotten bored with the whole, Geordi is wrong for 38 minutes and then becomes correct in the last five. Laforge acts like a dick through this whole episode, again, only to be shown he's wrong to act that way, again.
Honestly, I think Doohan was hamming it up a little bit hard. I don't think his performance style was meshing too well with the '90s. But that's a small gripe in an episode full of awesome.
At this point in his life James Doohan was suffering from ridiculous Alzheimer's disease as well as dementia
It boggles my mind that anyone could find fault with this episode. If you’re going to pay tribute to a legacy character, THIS is how you do it. Solid S tier.
This is a comfort episode for me. I absolutely love it and it’s something I'll often put on if I just want to watch a single episode. S tier without a doubt.
A "B" for fan service. Really not that great an episode. Plus there is a continuity error regarding Trek lore that would be a spoiler at this time.
True, although given the circumstances I attribute it to a moment's confusion.
A. Because a Dyson sphere is damn cool. Wish they'd shown more of it. Scotty was great too, though I hadn't seen TOS at that time, so not nostalgic for me.
Wow. I am always shocked at how much people like this. To me, except for the fan service, there is nothing redeemable about this episode
An aside; One of my favourite things about Scotty's character has always been his polite weariness in the face of Kirk's constant not-entirely-capable micro-management. Like the time Kirk interrupted Scotty during the battle with Kahn to suggest trying auxiliary power, as if that's not exactly what he would have been doing if he weren't on the phone. And in ST:III when Kirk orders 'now!' to open the starbase space doors as if Scotty hadn't been working on that for the last five minutes. Poor put-upon Scotty always just replies 'Aye sir' and gets on with the job. Legend. (p.s. I do love Kirk. I'm just glad I don't work for him!) ;-D
Without Scotty I would give this an A, or even a B because ignoring the Dyson sphere interior was a facepalm-worthy wasted opportunity. But all those Scotty scenes....the TOS bridge....yes, this is an S.
Ignoring the Dyson sphere interior how?
Probably an S back when it first aired, but it's settled snugly into a solid A for me.
Dyson sphere's a cool concept and the VFX was excellent there, and Scotty's never not welcome. Easiest S of my life.
S tier, because no bloody A, B, C, or D...
Came here to say this exact thing! 😂
B tier for the way Geordy treated Scotty otherwise it would have been S tier
I give it an A-Tier primarily for the thrill of seeing Jimmy Doohan, and especially the Bridge of the original E. Doohan's performance wasn't amazing, and the story was simple, so I'd normally rate it as a B, but seeing the Old Girl? Brought a tear to me eye.
A tier for me, probably because I saw this as a kid before I got into TOS, so the fan service never had a chance to really hit me like it would if your first time seeing it Scotty really meant something to you.
A-tier. It hits all the right nostalgia buttons but it's not a "This is Star Trek" level of story telling.
It's S-tier for Scotty and the holodeck scene, and D to Geordi. Personally I don't agree with all the bitchin' about the Dyson Sphere, so it does not strain credibility or credulity for me.
it made it possible for reunion of mcoy,spock and scotty, that alone make this ep S
I always desperately want this to be an S, but I give it a B because I really don't like Geordi in this episode. His behaviour to Scotty is so totally different to the person who's shown Data so much patience in the early seasons. I think the conflict was more forced than it needed to be, Scott could have felt fish out of water enough just by how much technology has evolved.
I totally agree. They made Geordy a villain in this and it wasn't necessary to the story.
The scene in the Holodeck is S tier by itself.
ha True! Especially, in my headcanon, Picard having gifted the whiskey to Guinan alludes to so many private drinking sessions they've been quietly having off-camera.
Scotty is great; so many great moments. The message on aging and how the next generations don't respect or remember their contributions is touching and makes me cry just thinking about it. The Dyson Sphere, however, is SO far-fetched as to be unbelievable (how many planets would have to be completely dismantled to make a surface that can encapsulate a sun? It's just NOT possible)... so this one thing is the ONLY negative in my opinion, but it can't override the "S" for the emotional impact of this episode.
We really don't know what might be possible. Star Trek should = an open mind to everything. A few years ago, astronomers discovered what they were willing to suggest might be a Dyson Sphere. They concluded that it was probably only a dust cloud but left room for maybe not.
It feels rushed, I wanted to see more of the sphere inside, like in the book, fun episode, if a little empty.
The sphere could be a whole series in and of itself
It would’ve been an S tire for me if they hadn’t of made Scotty‘s character so over the top. Also, I didn’t feel that Scotty got the respect that he deserved in the episode. But that’s just me definitely A tier.
Spock is the only TOS character the TNG crew appear to be familiar with. In 'The Naked Now' there is no recognition of Kirk and crew from the Enterprise D computer record of 'The Naked Time'. No fanfare about McCoy in the pilot episode.
S(cotty)-Tier, obviously!
S-tier, nuff said.
S for Scotty, D for Dyson sphere
