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January 6, 2025

PATRON TIER LIST TNG S5E11

What tier do you rate Star Trek TNG S5E11?

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Comments (59)

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Boggle · January 9, 2025

Honestly one of my least favorite episodes of the whole series. The kid is annoying, the B plot is so generic, and we've seen all of the same Data stuff before, only better. And again...How many children does Starfleet get killed by having them in numbers on so many starships? D.

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Cranky Grandma · January 9, 2025

I was on the border of B and C, but gave it a C as it’s not really fresh ground. I expect you will like it more than I do.

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Max Yoder · January 9, 2025

I predict that you guys will really like this one. Its similar to the one where Worf helps the boy grieve his mother's death but in a very uniquely Data way

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Ian Westcott · January 8, 2025

I still gave it a B, but I liked this episode better when it was The Bonding.

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Thicketdweller · January 8, 2025

The child actor in this one is marginally better than the child actor. In the last one, still an episode. I fell asleep on. I love season five, but we’re here looking at a couple of episodes that could’ve been erased from Canon

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Ken R · January 7, 2025

This one was not as bad as the last one. Was it all just so adorably sweet you might die from a diabetic attack? Yes, but the kid was a cute little nice kid, and they worked his trauma into he needing to break through it to save the ship. I don't know what the deal is with TNG needing so many kids, but this was a well told little story.

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Dr. Soong · January 7, 2025

Trauma? Data? And the question of humanity? Yeah I love it. How often have I wished to be an Android like Data.. just so I wouldn’t have to feel. I think the episode had great potential and could have been more. Still a personal favorite for the question of trauma and how different people deal with it. What did you thought about the topic of trauma and avoidance in this episode? Do you think Data comes closer to humanity?

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Darren · January 7, 2025

Two child centric episodes in a row isn’t a good choice but I think this is the stronger of the two. The boy copying Data makes sense to me based on his circumstance. Low B for this one I think

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TheKnightwatchOfficial · January 7, 2025

I was not a fan of The Bonding, but something about this episode really stuck with me. The kid was definitely a better actor (not saying much), and it was a Data episode, so that helped. Troi was actually rather useful this time, too. And Iiked the reveal at the end where Timothy thought he was responsible for what happened. Now he and the boy from The Bonding can form a Survivor's Group aboard the Enterprise. "We have another parentless child aboard the ship? What are we, Councilor, an orphanage?" --Picard, probably.

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Sixto · January 7, 2025

This episode is so sad man Data/Troi mvp team for the emotional episodes and this is top emotional ! By the way… was Picard extra insensitive or was that just me ?

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Matthew McKinnon-Gray · January 7, 2025

Solid episode. Not only does the kid do a good job of mimicking Brent Spiner’s mannerisms but we also get to see Troi being both plot relevant and good at her job.

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Thomas Cole · January 7, 2025

I think the guys will enjoy this episode, as the B story and A story are kinda the same thing, and it is mainly a about a kid dealing with his grief and bonding with Data. A solid good effort.

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tyranusfan · January 7, 2025

Data always has the good shows. Seeing him and the boy bonding was sweet.

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#MaxwellDidNothingWrong · January 6, 2025

Does this solidify Data as the best parent? Between Lal and this adopted kid for a week, they aren't insufferable at all. Worf and Bev could maybe learn a thing or two.

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Matt Everkoul · January 6, 2025

Keep in mind the show was going for a family audience, including appealing to younger viewers - by introducing characters around the same age they can relate to - so brace yourself, as it’s possible there will continue to be episodes like this featuring child actors throughout TNG & beyond.

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KatWithAttitude · January 6, 2025

Another kid episode, but this kid is a better actor than most of the others. Certainly better than any of them on TOS. He's carrying around a lot of guilt for something he thinks he did but he really didn't do it, which makes him to me more sympathetic. Still not one of my favorite episodes, but I do give it an “Enjoyable” ranking.

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Cirk Bejnar · January 6, 2025

This episode has always worked better than "The Bonding" for me. Plus a mention of the Breen. A

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Sainjl · January 9, 2025

Were the Breen mentioned before this? I only know about them from later on.

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Tim Nikiforovs · January 6, 2025

I think a lot of people, myself included, tend to mix this episode up with The Bonding for obvious reasons. Patrick Stewart directs again, and once again it's a Data centric episode. I'm sensing another pattern. It was also during the filming of this episode that the cast and crew learned of Roddenberry's death.

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T’Pynyn of Vulcan · January 6, 2025

Most child-focused episodes are torture for me! The kid's acting is a little better than most but overall I wish they would have stopped after TOS "And the Children Shall Lead". The worst Star Trek episode ever! I gave it a low C.

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Gruzz · January 6, 2025

Second episode in a row were we get to see Diana being a counselor, which as always nice. This time with Data's problem child rather than Worf's. Good performances once again elevate it to a B for me, and this time the B-plot is far less daft too.

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Justin B · January 6, 2025

I give it a C on memory, but I'd like to revisit it with you guys. I expect you'll enjoy the themes of trauma and how children try to cope with it. Even so, I've never held this episode in high regard.

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LonghillAndy · January 6, 2025

The writers go back in time after seeing how much Alex loves the bonding and write the bonding 2: Timothy I am an android! The most memorable part for me is the whole sequence on the bridge with data once again saving the day and Picard trusting data to drop the shields at the end, that level of trust between them shown here shows how strong their bond is which could lead to The bonding 3……… nah ok I’ll shut up now B Tier!

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John · January 6, 2025

This has some very uncomfortable moments for me. I'm not as big a fan of the trauma episodes as you guys. I'd rate it a C myself, but you guys will probably like it more than me.

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T’Pynyn of Vulcan · January 6, 2025

Agree about the trauma stuff.

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reactive1 · January 6, 2025

The Bonding 2.0 with Data this time. Season 5 continues its focus on kids. Nowhere near as good as Season 3's "The Bonding". C for me.

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Jovet · January 7, 2025

I didn't enjoy either of them.

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The Travelers Travels · January 6, 2025

he's such a terrible android... lol C+

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Worf and Riker Ride Again · January 6, 2025

B for me, not outstanding in any way but decent acting and theme, with P-Stew in the director’s chair. Spiner does a good job as always.

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Spencer Loften · January 6, 2025

I'd probably put it somewhere in the C tier. The kid isn't as bad of an actor as some we see in Trek. The story itself is very average and has been done better in other episodes.

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Jeffrey · January 6, 2025

Repeating past plots. I like this better than The Bonding, but you two liked that a ton more than I did

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Nolan · January 6, 2025

Hey look, two kid focused episodes in a row! Decent mystery, and good attempt to look at processing trauma, but treading the line of average.

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Paul Rymer · January 6, 2025

The kid actor in this, Joshua Harris, was in Dallas as Christopher Ewing from 1984 to 1991 as a regular cast member which explains why he’s a step above most kids in the show. I give this a C, it’s not a favourite but better than the prior episode.

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ByRikersBeard · January 6, 2025

Solid B, not much else to say!

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Pykeman · January 6, 2025

Long time watcher first week Patreon and voter. This is one of those episodes where the concept was pretty great, but the execution was a touch sloppy perhaps? I cannot fault anyone on their acting in this episode, especially the kid, he was not given an easy task. Mostly due to concept is why I rank it a Banger, but if I was to vote purely on execution of story, it would be lower.

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Jovet · January 7, 2025

Welcome to the fold!

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Joe Concepts · January 6, 2025

Kid actor? At first I would've always assumed you guys would dislike one of these, but you didn't mind the kids in "Disaster" so I'm not so sure. I think think you'll give this a C, but maybe a B given it's so Data centric. The guest actor isn't bad, and feels sort of like an authentic kid to me. It could have used a little more substance, though.

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Collin Freeman · January 6, 2025

Another nice episode capped off by Brent Spiner's performance. Good interaction between him and the Timothy character. I think the guest actor, Joshua Harris, does a better than serviceable job. Here the B-plot of what happened to the Vico ties in nicely with the main characters' story (for example, Timothy's guilt). (Where is O'Brien in the transporter room? Day off?). Overall: B+

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Wrestling With Gaming · January 6, 2025

I usually despise kid actors but I thought this kid did alright in his role. The plot is kind of whatever but the added insight into data raises this one to an A for me.

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Sainjl · January 6, 2025

So this is TNG revisiting the orphan child theme again. QUESTION: Did it feel like it was retreading old ground or did the Data stuff keep it fresh? Not having watched TNG in order the first time around, I liked this episode, but my feelings have faded overtime. Still a cute episode, I suppose.

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The Ninth Doctor · January 6, 2025

Low C, aggressively average. Watch once, then skip.

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Jon1701 · January 6, 2025

Gene Roddenberry passed away during the filming of this episode. Production wanted to carry on as normal but Patrick Stewart (as director and No1 on the call sheet) made the decision to stop for the day.

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Jovet · January 6, 2025

The only good thing about this episode is Data figuring out that the shields are the problem. Nice little twist.

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Jovet · January 6, 2025

If Data had a son. Oh, wait... If Stewart had a director's chair...

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FreshBread · January 6, 2025

The Bonding II: Data for a Day Solid B with some grieving drama taking the form of yet another one-on-one Data bonding experience.

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Darin Wagner · January 6, 2025

I usually skip this one. D-tier for me.

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Jovet · January 6, 2025

I don't care for this one, it's too personally cringy for me to watch. Once was enough. I don't give it a "D", though. The "drama" is okay and the writing is fine, as is the acting. I like the intellectual twist at the end that saves the ship. It's a low "C".

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Jeffrey P · January 6, 2025

A good episode, but not one of the greats. We see Data perhaps being a better parent than Worf. The episode goes from "C" to "B" by virtue of not making the kid the threat to the ship.

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Aramis Calcutt · January 6, 2025

A pretty average episode. Another one focusing on a kid. Bleargh. At least it’s not Alexander.

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Gregory Foster · January 6, 2025

I always loved this episode. I remember watching it as a kid when it first aired. It is reminiscent of The Bonding. I'm glad they finally pointed out that security is built into the control panels. Not just anyone can press buttons, and stuff happens. This also prevents accidents when people brush or lean against consoles.

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Eric Singer · January 6, 2025

A slightly better child episode than the last one. The kid being an android was cute. Nothing that interesting here though. "C"

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Greg Quinn · January 6, 2025

Another orphan episode. Still this is pretty good.

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Keith S · January 6, 2025

Average episode I found it kind of funny when Data was trying to brush the boys hair.

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Call ‘Em Greg · January 6, 2025

Two kid-centered episodes in a row, and this is the better of the 2. Joshua Harris’ performance as Timothy is much more genuine and less forced than the kid that played Jeremy Aster. His scene in the ready room with Troi, Data, and Picard is good stuff. Side note: it was this scene that was being filmed when the producers informed the cast and crew of Gene Roddenberry’s passing. Production was shut down for the remainder of the day. B for “Be the best android you can be”

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ComMix · January 6, 2025

I really like that episode. In my eyes also a quite good child-Actor. The strong bonding with an Non-Emotional Charakter to cope. The caretaking of Data is so nice and also the Demand to lower the shields in the End - classic Data. A for me.

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Prof Moff · January 6, 2025

KIDS!!!!!

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Evan Guthrie · January 6, 2025

Great moment of implicit trust between Picard and Data. “Drop the shields.” No explanation needed.

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Captain Chris Dorn · January 6, 2025

As a person with autism, this episode resonates with me. This is why Data means so much to me. He aspires to be better than his own program just like I try to be a better person in every day life. B grade.

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Gregory · January 6, 2025

Not one of my favorites, but don't we all look up to Data?