PATRON TIER LIST TNG S5E10
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The first sign this episode was mediocre was Geordie excited about this new technology. That would be like a car guy who builds hot rods and offroad beasts being excited about the tesla car and cybertruck. So you jump on this wave that is fired from one planet to another. What if you have to take a detour? What if something fails and you fall out of the wave? What if the wave destroys another world like it almost did here?
Meh. Just Meh. Not dreadful enough for a D. It’s “alright”. But not one I’d rewatch. It’s just there.
Eh. I don't hate this episode. But I also don't really care about it, either. I do find it fascinating how many children the Federation puts at risk on front-line starships, though. C.
This episode is one I skip.
What I like about this one is seeing Worf, well established as a workaholic, forced to stop and take care of his family, like any other single parent on the Enterprise. Whether you like Alexander or not, it’s a good story for Worf.
Dorf! Returns! Oh, I fell asleep
C tier for me, nice development for Worf but feel the b plot kinda gets in the way. Never hated Alexander as much as so many seem to. I like this side of Worf being explored.
I love the choice to make Worf a father. For real now.
Some good character for worf, but not much beyond that...I hate to say it but Alexander's child actor always felt like the worst child actor on TNG and could have been cast different. Unfortunately the main focus of the episode is worf and alexander which is what brings this episode down. The new propulsion system should have been the A plot whilst worf and son the B plot. Just a very mid episode for the middle of the season.
How was he a bad actor?
I Wish K'Ehleyr Was Here: The Episode
Eh. That's pretty much all I have to say.
I like Alexander but feel like Worf-as-dad is underused. They don't make it a permanent part of his character. Alexander just waltzes in every now and again. It could have added more depth to Worf, showing a side of his character that he really struggles with, but they ended up doing it better with other characters in series yet to come.
Geez a lot of Alexander hatred in these comments. I didn’t know he was such a divisive character.
Yeah, I thought Wesley was hated! LOL!
Who would have thought I could like an episode with Alexander in it? Till that episode shows up this one sucked, except for the sideways fall. F for fuck off!
I literally fell asleep while trying to re-watch this.
Really not a fan of Alexander episodes, and this one is the Alexander episode. a D for me. While I know that Alexander is really good for Worf's character development, I just can't get into them.
Alexander sighting! The warp test ship is the same model as the Mar Defense Perimeter ships in Best of Both Worlds P 2.
Which I think were built from Red October model kits.
Wesley vs Alexander? Who do you dread showing up next? For me, give me Wesley please.
As long as neither of them sing, I'm fine.
Another Season 5 returning character when Alexander comes to live with Daddy because he's being a brat to Grandma and Grandpa. He isn't much better with Worf, but they are bonding some at the end when Worf gives him a choice, and Alexander decides it's better to stay on the Enterprise instead of being shipped off to Klingon school. This is one I have ranked as “Enjoyable”.
I would say I can't believe what I just watched, but I do believe it. On a show promising to boldly go to where no one has gone before, I was subjected to some cliche family crap that could have been lifted from any show of the 1970s. Had it at least had a slow melancholy rendition of the Brady theme as Worf gave the TV dad speech it would have been S. As it is it's a D.
That's what I think about when I watch TOS. So much emotional, soap-opera drivel... supposedly sophisticated and enlightened Vulcans killing each other over mating rights... repeated posing and prosing displays of lust and masculinity usually resulting in barbarian fisticuffs...
D for Dorf. And for a technobabble plot that good acting cannot save.
Regula-1 scientists develop Genesis to create life, it ends up being a doomsday weapon. The Enterprise crew try to reignite a dying star, end up destroying the whole system. These guys develop a warp drive alternative, and it ends up being a planet destroying superweapon. I'm sensing a pattern here. Also Dorf returns!! I guess Worf finally found the milk and cigarettes.
Having Alexander in this episode ALMOST makes me wish for Wesley to return! D for the annoying child!
At least he's supposed to be annoying. Alexander's mother DID NOT raise him to emulate his father.
Dorny* is on top form here, and Marina's great too. For me the episode just creeps into a B on the back of their performances, and I'm fine with annoying kids when they are supposed to be annoying and it progresses the story. We'll just ignore the whole Planet Destroying Warp Speed Doomsday Ray that would undermine the whole show though... * that's what Marina calls Michael Dorn.
D for dorf episode, nah in all seriousness I don’t think this episode is actually that bad to me, I liked the worf adrenaline moment to save Alexander because his fatherly feelings actually kicked in for once, and I guess you guys will like the Deanna and Worf in the turbo lift shot when the doors open and you can see Picard sat in the big chair in the background, data and riker at one of the science stations behind him out of focus while the focus stays on Deanna and worf, my real grading C for making me feel some feelings and a fairly interesting science side
There are a handful of episodes with kids that are good. This... is not one of them, IMO. I barely remember the other plot; this is thoroughly forgettable episode. Barely cracks a C rating for me. It does have more Worf than it might otherwise, but at the cost of his obnoxious and poorly-acted kid.... I dunno... there's a point at which the price you pay for Worf content just isn't worth it.
How was he poorly acted? He was supposed to be bratty and obnoxious, and it seems to me he nailed it!
Alexander is such a little bastard! He has NO honor! C also, wouldn't that soliton wave push everything in it's path to warp speed? so you'd have a ton of space trash zipping around the galaxy at warp speeds destroying everything... so maybe a D for a bad propulsion theory.....lol
There is only one, maybe two episodes with Brian Bonsall playing Alexander that I like, this isn't one of them. The story with the soliton wave was just dumb. C minus
I gave this one a B tier. There is a lot of hate for Alexander in the fandom. I personally think he's a decent addition to the show. This episode isn't great by any means but I also don't think it's as bad as some people say.
I couldn’t initially remember this episode and had to rewatch. I was going to go with a C as a fairly standard storyline but the action was surprisingly good as was the acting so I’ll give it a B
Good luck Alex and Josh. C for inoffensive but annoying and dull. At least now Worf isn't the WORST father for abandoning his kid. Just an incompetent one.
Alexander the not great - D - but I liked the scenes with Worf’s mother.
Worf and Alexander episodes do have some nice character moments, etc, but I feel like they usually end up covering the same ground and the same arguments. C.
This episode is the very definition of fine but kind of uninteresting. It does give some added character development to worf and it's nice to see his mom again, but I'd rather watch Qpid twice than this one once.
Meh. D-orf. Skip.
While Alexander is definitely annoying to most (as the other comments attest), I can’t help but enjoy episodes where Worf learns to be a parent. It adds good conflict and contrast to give the warrior a fight he can’t win with sheer physical strength.
The "plot armor" of having to go through the wave to catch up with it is ridiculous. They should easily be able to go around it. And the concept of warp without warp drive is flawed. It would violate relativity—something warp drive, surprisingly, does not! Best worst thing about this episode? There's a fire on the ship, three people are in the room with all the smoke and flame, and NO ONE is coughing!
The sequel to the death of K'Ehleyr. This is an average, run-of-the-mill episode. It's not quite a bottle episode since it adds Alexander. I think Troi is pretty good in this. Worf is out of his element, so that's probably fun. This is a huge example of new technology that could be revolutionary but ... is it?
It was nice to see Worf's mother again. Sad thing is Georgia Brown, who played her died from surgical complications on July 5, 1992. Just 6 months after this episide aired.
Worf shows off his lack of wisdom in this episode and that humanizes him (no pun intended) in a way I think no other episode could or has. Alexander is a little shit in this episode. The most interesting thing in it, however, is the "Soliton drive." I thought this idea of a cheap, economical alternative to the standard warp drive was kinda neat.
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It's a C to me. Worf has to confront a problem that he can't fight or flee. It's a cool concept, but not well executed here. Star Trek has done the "fish out of water" motif better in the past and the ship in peril trope feels tacked on to satisfy the requirements of a sci-fi element and giving the rest of the crew something to do. But it squeaks in a few bonus points for featuring Sully (Richard McGonagle) from the Uncharted games.
I like Worf’s parents. I don’t like Alexander.
Well he's a brat.
Oh lord... Alexander... Where do I start? How about with a "D"
I think that caused the problem in the first place...
Eh
D for Dorf
Whereas I usually watched each episode glued to my TV I’m pretty sure I was cleaning my room or folding my socks when this one first aired. Nice to see Helena Rozenko return and appreciate the reunion of Worf and Alexander, but man Worf is just a horrible dad here. I get it, you can’t have plot without conflict, but you know it’s bad when Picard of all people tells you “the meeting can wait, go take care of your kid”. D for “dont Dad like Worf”
Worf and Alexander are the 90's precursors to the Mandalorian & Grogu! 😄
No, more like Obi-Wan and Anakin in The Phantom Menace, but much less exciting.
This one is a skip in my book. The plot points and stakes feel very contrived. And for that reason I’m sure you guys are going to love it.
Beyond contrived! LOL! Well, Worf's situation isn't, but everything else is.
nothing about this interests me - D
But but but ... Klingon stuff ?
What i really like is the shift of Emotions on Worf Face when dealing with Alexander and his Teacher. Besinde the not so good Child Actor, i can enjoy the development of an relationship . Strong B
I think the child actor was fine. Alexander is supposed to be a problem child.
You killed off Kheleyr for THIS?! D for Dorf.
Overall, good episode. Nice, sometimes awkward moments with Work and Alexander. Worf having to face the facts of being a father and that kids, even Klingon ones, don't always "have honor" and tell the truth. The B-plot is okay but nothing special. Overall, B rating for me.
Nice to see Alexander return. Worf thinking that being a single parent is easy is hilarious. B grade.
The idea of warp without warp drive is cool, but would the this technology be feasible for responding to distress calls out in the middle on no where? Or just short planet to planet hops?
It wouldn't be feasible at all. It would violate Relativity, faster than light travel of matter. (Warp engines do NOT do this, as the Warp engine creates an isolated pocket of the universe around the ship, and that pocket is pushed faster than light. The ship never actually moves inside that pocket of space.)
