UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TNG S3E17 - Sins of the Father

Next to Worf, Picard was the most Klingon person in that room.

once again, captain picard shows us why he is one of the best characters in television history

Klingons do live a long time. Some Klingons from TOS appear on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

also, great to have a visit from Tony

BANGER. AFTER BANGER. AFTER BANGER.

If you're going to court you know you want Picard on your side!

"What if the blunt end hit" I'm pretty sure Klingon nannies know how to throw knives better than that. No missing.

Top tier episode for sure. I've been saying for years, Worf is like the guy who marries into a Jewish family and takes the traditions more seriously than the lifetime adherents. Everything he knows about Klingons is literally textbook. Whatever he could learn while growing up with humans. He built this mythos up in his mind, and worked his ass off to live up to it, combined with the best traits of humanity that he learned from starfleet. Now that he finally sees not only klingons, but the leadership of the Klingon Empire for what they really are, he has to come to terms with the fact that they're all full of shit. He viewed himself as a pretender, but in truth he's the keeper of the flame. He's what klingons SHOULD be. I love when Picard says "what does this say about an empire that holds honor so dear". There almost no question that spits in the face of a klingon more, but they know they can't say anything. Kurn is great as well, and you'd expect no less from Tony Todd. Probably should have made the guy a rare steak though. I appreciate his devotion to stand with his brother, but Worf was definitely playing it smart here. Can't regain your family's honor if you're dead. I don't know if K'Mpec and Duras were the only ones who knew Kurn was Worf's brother, but when Worf says "you must also, brother", I just imagine one of the councillors being like "what? I heard that". Despite being very much a Worf episode, I think Picard is the real MVP here. From seemingly denying Worf leave only to follow up with basically "we do this together"(which I think surprised Kurn), to agreeing to be cha'DIch without a second thought, to flat out defying the Klingon high council in defense of one of his crew, Picard shows more true honor than any klingon in this episode aside from Worf or Kurn. Telling Duras he's not afraid to fight him to his face, as well as taking out the assassins, was also pretty badass. Fantastic episode, and great development for the klingon plotline. It's a shame that no matter the culture or the place, politicians are gonna politician.

I wonder sometimes if Kahlest acting depressed was a test of Picard. Maybe she wanted to see how he would act.

Today is a good day to die

Klingon "Imperial Empire" ... hey Ron, you might have wanted to wordsmith that a bit more.

Welcome to Ronald D Moore true calling in Trek.

Notice how it took only 2 Klingons to shank Kurn but it took 3 Klingons to *almost* take out Picard? I am not convinced these Klingons are the warriors we've been led to believe.

Yesterday’s Enterprise, the Offspring and Sins of the Father three episodes showcasing trek storytelling at its most diverse and demonstrating just how good TNG really is and yet for me we still haven’t seen the best of the season 😅.

Deja Q is a C-list episode, only John Delance being in it raises it to a C level.

The planet was the Klingon homeworld. It has not been named yet in the series.

This episode won an Emmy for Outstanding Art Direction for a Series

I love the Klingon Great Hall designed for this ep by Richard James which won an Emmy for Best Art Design for this episode. I love the relationship between Worf and Kurn in this episode. The way his command style aggravates the crew to such a great degree, though I understand how it added to the story, is still a little hard for me to swallow. I mean seriously did they really expect anything less from a Klingon? Especially after Riker's experience aboard the Klingon ship. And after all the years they have served with Worf? But that minor point aside I still really liked this one.

Great e-Isolde and really develops Worf showing what an honourable person he is

There is more creaking leather in this than there ever was on any stage of Judas Priest. And if you ever saw live aid 1985 I don’t know how Rod Halbert got on stage with that much leather in 100° temperatures

I'm still getting a left-ear thing. But at least I can watch it now

The difference between a great episode or just a good episode for Target Audience: "Does it end on a scene rather than an Enterprise shot? Yes/No?"

Ronald D. Moore is now officially "the Klingon guy"

The holy trinity of season 3 episodes for me… Yesterday’s Enterprise, The Offspring, and Sins of the Father.

I just realized what a bad actor Patrick Massett was as Duras. He could barely speak his lines through those fake teeth. It sounds flat and robotic. Or if he's ADR, then that's even worse.

39:20 He's not just "the judge guy." He's the leader of the Klingon High Council and of the entire Empire.

Narendra III of Yesterday's Enterprise was 2 years before Khitomer. Narendra III - 2344 Khitomer - 2346

I love when Troi laughs when Kurn mentions resisting killing Riker, as though it's a joke and she totally gets it! lol

*the videos been removed?!* You may test that assumption at your convenience.

Like, was there some error or technical issue or something that showed up in the video?

anyone know why it was removed?

Hoping we get an email when this is back up so I can stop refreshing.

An emotionally wrenching time-travel story involving changing history. An even more heartbreaking tale of personal love and loss for the show’s least emotional character, featuring an unforgettably beautiful score and marking the debut of the show’s finest director. A deep dive into the culture of an alien crewmember, depicting his homeworld on screen for the first time and deepening his bond with his captain. But we’re not here to discuss “The City on the Edge of Forever,” “This Side of Paradise” and “Amok Time.” With “Sins of The Father” (and yes, that is how the title is capitalized onscreen, as awkward as it looks), TNG accomplishes something very few science fiction shows have done, producing three consecutive episodes that are worthy of perfect 10s. "Doctor Who" did the same in 2007 with “Human Nature,” “The Family of Blood” and “Blink,” but that achievement is slightly less impressive because “Human Nature” and “The Family of Blood” are a two-part story. “Yesterday’s Enterprise,” “The Offspring” and “Sins of The Father” are separate and unrelated installments of an episodic television series, which could have aired in any order at any point in the season. The TNG staff (now including Ronald D. Moore) developed “Sins of The Father” from two separate scripts: “Brother to Dragons” by Drew Deighan (who receives story credit on the finished episode), about Worf’s father being accused of treason, and “Our Brother’s Keeper” by Beth Woods, the co-writer of “Contagion,” featuring Worf’s brother. Credited co-screenwriter W. Reed Moran left the project after the first draft, with Moore and Michael Piller finalizing the script. “cha’DIch” was my late mother’s favorite Klingon word due to both its sound and its connotations in this episode. The word means “second,” and shares two of that word’s meanings in English: the ordinal form of the number two, and the assistant or backup to a person engaged in a duel or other affair of honor. For example, John Travolta’s character takes part in the climactic street race in "Grease" because he is the cha’DIch of another character who sustains a concussion just beforehand. “cha’DIch” does not mean “second” as in a small unit of time, since the Klingons have an entirely different measurement system; the closest equivalent to our “second” is “lup.” Linguist Marc Okrand, the creator of the Klingon language, suggested multiple names for the Klingon homeworld for use in “Sins of The Father,” but the finished episode simply calls it “the Homeworld.” In “Heart of Glory,” Korris refers to the planet as “Kling,” the name which Gene Coon (the writer of “Errand of Mercy” and creator of the Klingons) originally intended, but TNG’s writers rejected that name during the development of “Sins of The Father.” Much later, however, the Star Trek franchise would acknowledge Kling as an alternative name of the planet. As Alex and Josh recognized, Charles Cooper (Klingon Chancellor K’mpec) also played Klingon General Korrd in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier; K’mpec even wears the same cloak as Korrd. (It would have been unlikely for the episode to acknowledge K’mpec as Korrd’s descendant because Gene Roddenberry disliked Final Frontier so much that he was encouraging fans and writers at this time to consider it non-canonical.) Cooper also played a physician-astronaut in “Voice of Infinity,” a 1960 episode of "Men into Space." As Alex and Josh also recognized, Tony Todd (Kurn) played the title role in all four "Candyman" films. Finally, on a less positive note, “Sins of The Father” marks the approximate point in the series when TNG’s writers became conscious of the fact that three of the show’s regular cast members had delivered finer performances over the last two-and-a-half seasons than those of their colleagues. This was largely because these three actors had received richer scripts that gave them better opportunities to display their talents than their castmates had experienced. Nonetheless, the result was that TNG’s writers began to give these three actors even more imaginative and challenging scripts to take advantage of their abilities. Therefore, the three gave even more memorable performances, which in turn inspired the writers to give them even better material ad infinitum. Meanwhile, the rest of the cast, shut out of leading roles in the show’s headliner episodes, had to make do with fun sci-fi mysteries, cheesy comedies, and ill-conceived love stories. I do not think I need to identify the three actors who were now more equal than the rest of the ensemble. This situation was not their fault, nor was it the fault of their colleagues, all of whom (except, arguably, Wil Wheaton) were as talented as they were but had not had the same good luck with the show’s scripts. (It did not help matters that Ronald D. Moore was a major Klingon fan.) Although they would continue to deliver unforgettable performances in their iconic roles, and TNG would always remain far more of an ensemble piece than TOS had been, five of TNG’s regulars had now, in a sense, fallen behind, and would never catch up.

Looks like I watched it just in time. Guess I'll have to watch it again once it's back again. I remember back when you weren't too sure about Picard yet. He has now raised badassery to an art form. Do you suppose Worf enjoyed ordering him to be quiet?

Removed by the Creator?

Picard friggin passed the BAR on Earth and Qo'nos.

WTF?! Where is it? I just sat down to watch!

My right ear is lonely. Much like Warf after discommendation

"Holy shit" - indeed!

great reaction to a great episode. btw caution when looking up actors or characters it could lead to spoilers

GAH. now I have to wait 9 hours before I can watch it. But let's gooooooooooooooo!!! The start of the banger Klingon episodes. And now I can watch Offspring... the emotional sadness from that episode will get slapped aside when followed by this banger.

Ah, forgot that this one was next. Looking forward to checking this out after work.

"You may test that assumption at your convenience" - Most starfleet way of saying fuck around and find out

I do not know why the audio keeps only being on the left side. I’ll try to figure it out and fix it

Is it just me or is audio on the left channel only?

Is it just me or is this one's audio only on the left channel for some reason?

"Where are the good episodes, guys????"

LFG!!!

This is another one of those "am I going to skip work and get in trouble" episodes. Looking forward to your reaction.

I am so excited for this !!!!!!

15 mins till I finish work, can't wait

Excited for this one! So much Worf lore!!!

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