The Geronimo video isn't my white whale, the Karankawa are
There's no way to discuss them, but I feel morally obligated to, which I hate. I hate when people treat knowing Native American History or learning about it to be some charitable act. It's silly. I learn and teach this stuff because it's interesting. Get over yourself.
The Karankawa certainly are! They rescued those conquistadors, developed a reputation as cannibal giants and great babysitters. They fought a pirate, they kicked the French out of Texas and caused the abandonment of two Spanish Missions. They are a study, also, in the tribes which did not get treaties.
The fact is there is not a single "pop history" book on them, which makes me feel obligated to communicate some actual stuff about them. I have read too much about them to let them be as ignored as they are by broader culture. But I have continually failed to find an angle, all I have is a bunch of disconnected stuff. Here's some stuff:
What is the joke here? I've read this a dozen times and sent it to friends, asking for their help. I think a sentence is missing, what is the god damn joke.
Anyway, I have once again abandoned my Karankawa video for something that, frankly, you're probably more interested in.
Tenskwatawa was a Shawnee Prophet who belonged to a proud tradition. Always at the American frontier, there were one or more Indian prophets who claimed that they had received a vision prophesying the end of the white man. You just gotta return to the old ways! Stop drinking liquor, using a flint-and-steel, and wearing the white man's clothes! Don't marry white men or women! Also, kill your dogs and cats. They stink!
I'm going to use Tenskwatawa's colorful life story (alongside his more famous brother Tecumseh's) to examine the history of Native religious movements, pan-Indianism, and the absurdity of returning to TRVDITION. It's just silly. Don't kill your dogs.
The discussion cannot avoid the Ghost Dance and Wounded Knee, for obvious reasons. In that place, I'll be more tactful.
Of course, the Shawnee (and all the others) were right and justified in romanticizing the past. They were, unmistakably, right to lament their circumstances and pine for an earlier time. I want in this video to NOT take the (incorrect) position that, actually, the whole past was terrible! Any and all "progress" (a very poisonous, loaded term) is great, actually! Eat the bugs!
Rather, I want to criticizing larping an idealized and poorly-understood past. Tenskwatawa, famously, used information taken from a white man about an imminent solar eclipse to his benefit, foreseeing the sun being swallowed up, to the amazement of his followers. Very Cremony of him!
Tenskwatawa had predecessors and successors, but is among the more colorful of this cast of characters. Although I've developed a soft spot in my heart for another one. Do NOT judge me if this next portion is in the video, verbatim.
Among Indian prophets there was also Smohalla of the Wamapum, a band closely related to the more well-known Nez Perce. Like Tenskwatawa, he too utilized foreknowledge of eclipses to advocate for a return of the old ways. How did he know of these eclipses which he used to support returning to the old way?
He owned an almanac.
“[Smohalla] showed me [Major MacMurray] an almanac of a preceding year and asked me to readjust it for eclipses, as it did not work as it had formerly done. I explained that Washington (the Naval Observatory) made new ones every year, and that old ones could not be fixed up to date. He had probably obtained this one from the station agent at the railroad, now superseded by a new one, who had cut off Smohalla's supply of astronomical data. My inability to repair the 1882 almanac for use in prognosticating in 1884 cost me much of his respect as a wise man from the east. (MacMurray MS.).” -page 720 Mooney
A note on Smohalla: I sort of love him. He said the Chinese had tails and that the white man ruined horses.
"He repelled the idea that the Indians had profited by the coming of the whites, and especially denied that they had obtained ponies from this source. His statement on this point may be of interest to those who hold that the horse is indigenous to America:
"What! The white man gave us ponies? Oh, no; we had ponies long before we ever saw white people.
The Great Spirit gave them to us.
Our horses were swifter and more enduring, too, in those days, before they were mixed with the white man's horses." - page 724.
Horse race-mixing.
It’s no good!
Tenskwatawa, despite decrying the malevolent influences of flint-and-steel, muskets, white man's clothing, food, and everything else, didn't have a bad word to say about horses either. The point of the video will be nuanced, but I suspect, since it'll deal with a trendy topic (tradwives and the less-trendy primal influencers) it'll attract a broad audience who may miss the nuance. Liquor had been (and unfortunately remains) a brutal corrosive agent in Native communities, and Tenskwatawa and other prophets had great success in reducing its influence. Not everything Tenskwatawa and his ilk said was wrong, in much the same way that just because we progressed to something, doesn't mean it's an improvement.
The video will be out by mid-June and is the last video before I finally do Geronimo. This, then, will be the penultimate Yeehaw hoedown.
Thanks for your patience and support as always! Know that even when something doesn't pan out (fucking Karankawa) I am always working and trying to give you the best video I can. Timothy F. Seiter is making a book on them, I hope it's the missing piece.
DJ PC
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So I don’t have a lot of context here, but I think I get it? Like, the joke’s not funny, but here are my shakes at it: I think the horse comes into play because, if they knew how to horseback ride, they could be saying he was trying to run off with it. I.e., the source is saying, “The guy was so greedy he wanted to eat it for himself and was asking for an escape horse.” Though, it could perhaps be that he was promised a horse as a gift if he could get a deer for the prestigious guests, which could be potentially left off. Perhaps they decided that him being employed was enough of a hint at this nature. If that’s the case, he’s asking for the gift of a horse he was promised because he did do the job, despite the fact he purposefully pretended not to so he could eat it himself. In this case, it’s the writer trying to show them as greedy, cunning folks. Either way (if I’m right, which I’m probably not), it’s not a funny joke.
Just subscribed I rewatch your videos every late night and I love to see updates ... I also read the Geronimo autobiography because of you it hit me in the same way 1984 did by the end, also bringing up Moby dick in the blood meridian vid was perfect
Hey Peach long time fan first time talker, Im writing this at an ungodly hour outta my mind on some shit but I fear if I do not speak now I will never do so. (excuse the schizo shit) I really wanted to say that you actually got me into history, there was a time where most of what I knew about Rome was from Fallout New Vegas as cringe as that sounds. You were one of the early sparks against the stone that ignited my love and fascination with history. I was one of those indigenous gamers in the audience and I have to say I felt like one of those apes touching the Monolith in a Space Odyssey. This also coincided with another change in my life at the time and I went from never reading to genuinely reading for pleasure. My first dive back into reading had me going into Tolstoy's Confession and The Death of Ivan Ilyich, that shit hit the depths of my soul, next thing I knew I was hooked. I ended up reading No Longer Human, The Fire Next Time, Geronimo's My Life. I really spiraled and went head long into all of this for a minute it really shifted and expanded my perspective on everything... I can't wrap this up neatly in this state but I'll say you made a substantial difference in my life and I'm honestly considering a career change cause of it. Also, I just remembered the entire reason I wrote this was so I could recommend "Aguirre - Wrath of God" to you, because there is something that unsettled my soul after watching that movie along with your Spanish Colonization series, and now I cannot stop thinking about it.
Always happy to spread a love of reading! I've wanted to watch Aguirre for awhile, as I love Herzog's documentaries. I'm now very busy on this project, but will keep it in mind for the two days I give myself after a video's completion to relax
Yeehaw summer rides on. Genuinely I cant thank you enough for your skitzo dives down the historical rabbit holes. It has inspired a new found love for reading and im just to the moon. Remember to microwave a cat for at least 5:45. That is all
Can’t have them frozen at the center! I’m real excited about this video, think yall will love it! I always think that but still
Might actually need to pick up that Seiter book for myself.
Kwash was sent to hunt a deer for guests. He came back acting disappointed and did a bit of trolling to make people think he failed. Then after everyone accepted there was no venison he revealed he did, in fact, kill a deer.
But what does the horse have to do with it? It makes me think there’s some overlooked detail that wasn’t included. Also that’s not funny there’s no slurs
I am a dumbass following a much smarter dumbass on the internet, so please excuse me if this is a non starter: The Karankawa strike me as a group that never got to speak for itself in any way that would matter. As a people they existed as a warped mirror of how primal bros view thier glorious goatfucking ancestors. They were both a fascinating people with alot of nuance, but the people calling upon thier histories dont want a neat story, if they did there would be a pop history book. Basically everyone that calls upon the history of the Karankawa or Euro-cavemen do so because they have an idea they want pushed out there and there's no living voice to dissent from thier selective history. Liver king invokes idealized primal savages for the same reason settlers told of huge cannibal ogre men in the woods: its a useful tool that isn't going to correct you. Trad larping is just fascinating to me because of it's relationship to the "anyone who disagrees with this history is a libtard" line of thought. It's the same level of willful ignorance but positively spun. Maybe that just makes it normal racism? Sorry for making you read this Im sure I've repeated myself at least once but Im just corksure enough to put my thoughts out there and not regret it until it's too late.
Oh man, classic Kwásh. Guy's a riot.
Professor Cobbler, will Zizek’s Against Progress be required reading for this upcoming video?
I did not endear myself to my college student friend when I left that one lying around. It'll be in the video's bibliography but please don't read it so that I seem more clever
Looking forward to it
