Ramble: The Ghost of Evermore

HE’S STILL MY FATHER

One place I worked tried asking people to do "volunteer" hours being on-call on weekends. I guess not many showed up cause they eventually started talking about "mandatory volunteer" hours in meetings. I never signed up and ended up quitting before I found out how serious they were about it. My most direct co-workers were all young immigrants on work visas, fresh off getting their bachelor's though (who were already working late regularly) so I imagine the company got what they wanted in the end.

I feel as if unfortunately the official tagline of Evermore would, at this point (yes I’m aware it’s long closed and I’m late) “Evermore: It Costs Extra”

I’m getting a very disturbing impression that “media training” here means “wow they’re so much better at hiding the abuses and or crimes the company was committing anyway. And that’s framed as a good thing!” I’d prefer bad PR that exposes how abusive a company is. I’m not on the company’s side.

I know it’s 2026 and nobody is commenting on this any more. But I’ve watched this like 4 times and it annoys me every time that the rhyme in Maxwell’s song is “fight against villainy” and not “fight against tyranny” it would work better in multiple ways. There, I’ve got it off my chest. I can go back to comfort binging the rest of Jenny’s Patreon now.

I love the compliment of the manager of, despite not seeming media trained, she was articulate and answering questions fairly well just for her to immediately say “hold my beer” and answers the subsequent questions in like the worst ways possible

one thing I appreciate about you jenny is youre overly generous and kind to these bad actors

in the ghost story, I am almost certain he is mispronouncing Bedlam as Beldam lol

it's so funny how they deny implementing things bc of jenny's video when they did super specific things she mentioned like adding lights to one specific path she mentioned and no other paths, putting letters with quests around the park, and doing repeating storylines

as an av/lighting tech all the fiber optic cable he allegedly buried under the corpse of evermore is calling to me like cursed pirate treasure. i wouldn’t dare take it but not because i fear the law, i fear it would grant me three wishes but in awful and twisted ways.

My quest to watch all your Evermore content continues, and wow, things just get weirder with each installment. I can't say for certain if you're right about the campfire illusion and the portal, but the reasoning seems sound. And it's a shame, because I'm a sucker for optical illusions like the Pepper's Ghost. Oh no, Tip-Top! What a grotesque fate.

Holy shit I should have become a patron WAYYY sooner. That interview was the biggest trainwreck I’ve seen since Megalopolis

omfg I cant believe you brought up MagiQuest!!! it was my ex's favorite place as a kid and they took me to some and had the wands and all this gear. apparently it has gone downhill in the last decade, but its still pretty cool!! ofc I have also only been to a Wolf Lodge version, which is way simpler. every time I listen to the Evermore video I think, this place should just work like MagiQuest, it would make soooo much more sense.

I do think that is Kanye, even though I agree he looks weird. apparently theres a rumor he came to check out the technology of The Grid for his house (lol), which I think is way more likely and he didnt step foot in Evermore

Your sympathy for leaving Bob on the screen had me rolling XD

Take a shot everytime they say skull 😂

watching this for the millionth time and it's still crazy to me that Bob is here. is he still here? I hope so. that's so funny. that shocked me so much when I first watched this. it's just. it's just absurd.

''is she like. a spider knight?'' ''i am the spider princess'' ''okay 🤨'' this scene operates on dream logic i love it <3

Hearing that they were getting writing fatigue after only a few years is so crazy. Ive been going to a fantasy ball who’s lore has been going on for 20+ years and they’ve yet to lose steam.

Dude straight up if Meow Wolf is involved?? I'd for sure go! Use it as an excuse to visit my cousin who moved to Salt Lake City for work or something

(Re)watching these Evermore/Staircruiser videos really helps me recover while I’m sick. It’s like they have medicinal properties baked into them.

“How does it keep getting worse?” “People have ptsd from working at this park.”

"He's still my father!!" We don't have time for that right now Jeff.

Doing a complete Evermore Saga rewatch and I just noticed for the first time that the "skull witch" story guy from this video and the "I'm not sure if you are aware but you are now becoming a bear!" guy from the Return to Evermore are the same dude, just based on their voice. I'm like 90% sure.

evermore definitely had a problem with sexist pay. my mom was the costumer director, and was paid A LOT less than the male directors in the creature shop. she had decades more of experience than all the other men in the same working space, but was never paid as such. or even respected as a well seasoned costumer. she was treated like some silly grandma who just sews, instead of an artist trying to tell a story. she was also surprise fired. we gave up on ever trying to get the money ken owes us. ken was also proud of the fact he poached my mom from her other job. it’s really healing to see strangers out of state see the harm ken did.

im on rewatch one million and realized what the bob & new vp chat felt like to me: a portlandia sketch if it was about salt lake city instead of portland

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I do appreciate a gauntlet being thrown because I do want to see what Jenny would do with a theme park

There's a MagiQuest fan channel that interviews people who worked on it, and you might get a kick out of this actor's name:

the art behind the "tales of evermore" audio drama text is so obviously AI, this is sooooooooooo embarrassing and cringe when one of the only things that ever made the park look appealing was the lovely concept art

STEP…THREE

This is an extremely old video, nobody is talking about this anymore. but I'm just now catching up on the evermore lore. I have to say, I could be completely wrong, but just from what I've seen, I would bet a lot of money that some incident where a guest assaulted an employee happened every single day that the park was open, for its whole life. I just really think not a day went by without something happening, even with how few people must have come most days and their extremely limited hours. They really did not do a damn thing to prevent any of it, all but openly encouraged their guests to assault their employees. I'm so glad that park is finally permadead.

I occasionally will go back and rewatch these videos and up until this most recent watch I had no idea who Brandon Sanderson was or what he writes, I have (unrelated) started reading the Mistborn series since then though. From what I understand the castle/bookshop wouldn't be themed to any one series, but even if he had wanted to use Evermore as like a walkthrough location, I'm guessing the rest of his series are similar to Mistborn in that the vibes would decidedly not be whimsical or cute. In the case of Mistborn, more like, dilapidated buildings and a barren landscape. But hey it would have been easy to convert Evermore to that.

genuinely why are all the evermore actors like fundamentally bad at improv. why do they always say no. did ken bretschneider never tell them to "yes, and". like the guy who said he's never heard of guilds. why not say "woah! That sounds interesting! You should talk to xyz, she's more of a social butterfly than me!"

new patron who signed up in large part specifically for evermore, hello from the future everyone! on my second watch of this video, and the image I'm stuck with in my mind is of ken delivering canned lines to new management about the park like it's a dirty kitten left in a wet cardboard box, and how the previous managers mistreated it, how it's a beautiful thing under all that muck, and YOU are the one who's going to save it. and then the new hire reaches out to hold the sad kitten and take it for a bath and then falls through a big trapdoor. into hell. and the trapdoor has 'THE PROBLEMS BAKED INTO THE LOAF' written on it. ken starts laughing evilly, another hopeful fallen prey to his dastardly trap, his true passion project; cause as much pain and suffering to nerds as it is possible to inflict through a theme park.

My favourite thing about all of these Evermore videos is how much the employees and actors seem to not want anything to do with the guests who try to speak with them. It feels like guests were rudely intruding on the actors' private larp sessions

Watching all these videos in a row, the biggest thing that bugs me? Why do they all talk with English accents?

I can't believe they got Hbomberguy to perform in Lore 2023

That ghost tour skull story might be me new favorite Jenny moment

PLEASE DO A FNAF VIDEO

"I want the melodrama and the weird stuff I don't understand." 😂

This Q&A is a trainwreck and hard to watch. How did this go live?

That guy telling that skull switching story sounds like he’s sharing the very first story he’s ever written in his life, and just happens to have the misfortune of (either by choice or cruel design of fate) presenting that story to the public. Kudos (not sarcasm) to this guy if he’s able to weather that embarrassment because I certainly could not.

I lived in the East Bay for a few years in elementary school and I LOVED Marine World. So relatable

I will still just never get over the REVEAL of Bob being a PATREON MEMBER

It felt INCREDIBLE hearing the question @ 1:36:58 get read out JHGHFHFHF

Jenny's Evermore content feeds my bottomless appetite for Jenny's Evermore content. I can't get enough, it's such a gut buster every time!

Ken is so Greatest Showman coded

"Only 3% of revenue comes from returning guests". This blew my mind. It means Evermore always needed to be an national/international destination to work. But then why have a season-long plot that requires you to visit regularly to keep up with the story? They just needed 3 themed groundhog day-style stories per year (cycling through the themes of fantasy, Halloween and Christmas). Give the creative directors a set budget and total creative control. Now every time it's open, it's a true event. You can charge wayyy more and people have a reason to fly out 2 - 3x per year to see what magic they've spun this time. Gosh. This all just goes to show that a "vision" ≠ a sound business model. I consult with startups for a living and the pure ego & delusion of Ken is all too common.

Just realized on rewatch the new doll story wasn't even an original plot. It's just a clumsy, massacred retelling of Vasilisa the Fair. I guess calling the witch the Beldam instead of Baba Yaga made it sound less shamelessly plagiarized.

1:39:30 is the most surprising and captivating fourth-wall break I’ve seen in any piece of media

Wow, that interview is shocking. “You’re just a pussy, welcome to the real world” especially is just a classic abusive boss response to people complaining about mistreatment. As you said, clear lack of media training!

the "certain number" thing basically confirms my theory about why he opened it in Utah, aside from cheap land: that Mormon Christofascist police state government will protect rapists at all costs as long as they are white men and no, calling the police there would not have helped at all. Evermore's abuses are a symptom

2:05:00…is there a reason for the jarring costume change or?

I feel like everyone who reads this is probably already aware….but another rich person bought the failed park, launched a scavenger hunt to discover/choose a name for the new park, and ultimately landed on Realm Town. Honestly, it sounds like it’s gonna be just as bad as the original park.

Very late to this video- but the two Evermore employees featured in that chat made me audibly yell! Particularly that woman saying she MET YOU and how lovely you were! The smirking egos that took root in that place, my lord. I can only hope they’re embarrassed by how they conducted themselves on public platforms and will make smarter decisions in the future!

I'm sure this point has been made, but I'm waffling between baffled why Evermore doesn't run more like a Renaissance Faire, which would probably be more successful (or at least, there are currently several successful ones around the U.S.), and confused as to how Evermore is different from a Renaissance Faire (they're trying to market/present it as more than it is?)

I love how Americans’ idea of “fantastical” and magical in movies, TV, theme parks, etc. is almost always just “have them perform vague non-region specific British accents” 😂

Thank you for the content warnings

There is so much weirdness around this park, so many bad business decisions, so much stupidity. It's odd it even opened tbh. It also seems that Sleep no more will end in September this year. A bad year for "interactive" theatre not that evermore was that in the end.

So, I know I'm super late (returning patron lol), but: A couple of people in the comments have pointed this out, but the theory that Ken was just bluffing his way into more investor money makes so much sense. One of the comments mentioned that this is how things work for tech, I do want to add on that it is not JUST for the tech industry. That the park (unfinished as it was) was just the Minimum Viable Product - the MVP. This is a very common thing to have for any brand looking to get investors on board. So all those locked up buildings and vacant construction sites, really just served a single purpose: to be part of Ken's pitch. To be his MVP, his prototype, something tangible that the investors could look at and go "Oh, this could work. I'm gonna put money into this and eventually get a return." Well, we know now that this didn't work, but still, it boggles the mind. If you're making a prototype of something to show investors, one of the rules you have to follow is that it needs to be as cheap as possible for a working prototype. So why waste so much money with purchasing the land and building on it, when he could have just made a small, scaled model of his idea for the park on a piece of styrofoam? It is shocking that Ken did all this for what was, essentially, just a prototype. The world's most expensive MVP. Yikes.

https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2024/08/12/evermore-park-property-has-been/ the saga continues lol

I think the Evermore environment itself is rather beautiful and parts of it are downright classy, in spite of its unfinished state. So much better than an artificial indoor foam construction like many other themed environments. I hope someone does something with its remains. It's such a shame to leave all that to rot.

The tangent of Kanye at Disneyland is something that I think more people should know about.

interesting ken bretschneider adjacent update: Digicert (ken’s cyber company) just had a massive fuck up having to do w the security certificates it provides to customers. probably going to get sued from a bunch of different directions as it’s causing a bunch of their customers (BIG companies) some serious issues.

Five Nights sounds like a fun topic! I know absolutely nothing about the intense fandom of it and I just know you would be able to explain it perfectly a la MLP

Wow! Your section on MagiQuest brought back a lot of pleasant childhood memories of playing at the Myrtle Beach location before it closed. I remember begging my mom to buy me all the cool accessories for my wand. It was a really neat sort of introduction to LARP for children and I'm glad it's still around at the Great Wolf Lodge

I hope nobody ever confused this park with the Taylor Swift album! I bet it would be a good to set some kind of litigation in place if so.......... Lol. RIP Evermore. Your management never deserved the cool people who tried hard to make your park work.

I was at the Taylor Swift Amsterdam concert last Saturday, and kept thinking about these videos while she was talking about her Evermore album 😅

I feel like “Evermore” is the “Lauren” and Jenny is the “Nicole” (re: Jenny’s Hallmark Channel Video). “Evermore” seems like the type of place that would put dry ice in a bowl and call it a “recipe”… or water in a bottle and call it a “craft”. Does that make “Bob” the “Thea”?!?!

The Beldam story they tried to pass off as original is a twist on Coraline

This is nothing to do with anything, I just need to make shrieking noises about you going to Europapark. It's like the One Good Theme Park that we could drive to as a kid, because we were always visiting family in Germany and it's roughly on the way, and I loved it there. (Plus we went once with school, that was fun)

Jenny I joined the Patreon FOR the extra Evermore content😂

I've been hankering for some Scandinavian Sour Swimmers from Trader Joe's and to see the just as superior Bats & Cats in the corner is such a tease.

As someone who attended the opening weekend of the very first Magiquest - I screamed when it was mentioned. I spent half of the Star Wars hotel video thinking that experience would've been improved by Magiquest type technology. The one I attended had some animatronics !

I've organised (and played) larp for over 14 years and the Evermore saga seems so similar to all the problems I encountered there (sexual abuse, shady money constructions, power imbalances between players, lack of diversity). In the end - it made me quit, because nobody seemed willing to sacrifice their fantasy for real life safety.

I’ve lost some respect for Bob

I know you're done with Evermore, but now that Evermore is super extra double closed, I was wondering if you would consider doing a final Ramble, for last thoughts about Evermore? Now that it is closed... forever more...

Their spooky Halloween sounds as bad as the one at my local theme park Worlds of Fun. BUT no one but babies goes to the haunt at World of Fun. In Kansas City we have an entire haunted house district. People have bought up old factories and built multistory experiences. They are all like 30-60 minutes long and the two most popular ones sell a discounted joint ticket. Plus they have scare actors entertaining you in line and in the lobby, and sometimes even evangelical Christian’s protesting which is its own form of scare actor. Highly recommend if anyone is ever in KC around Halloween.

1:42:50 Evermore disguise outfit reveal now? Now that they're closed?

When I got to the convoluted ghost story a thunderstorm rolled in and it made everything 10x funnier. I hope that woman figures out what to do with all of her skulls.

Its so weird, its like the creator secretly wants it to die? Theres a cute little illuminated forest walk in a park "near" me called Foresta Lumina because people here are kinda obsessed with projection art I guess, idk. Anyways they are a relatively small budget art project but started with their initial funding going into things like renovating the park's walkways, and lighting it in a way thats safe at night, with mostly simple effects which were not spectacular but certainly effective and novel. I dont get out that much but have been willing to drive several hours twice now to go see it, when it first opened and again recently- its a fun thing to do and its a fun city project that they keep working on and adding bigger effects. Its fairy themed and its twinkly lights in a forest, its small scale and cheesy, but still, thats great to look at! I really don't think anything explains evermores financials other than a big ego getting in the way of something inherently very desirable as a day trip with the kids. Kids need things to do in the summer, I know a family that went to the zoo every weekend last month. At the right price and the right offerings families could be a steady source of income, it's so nuts to me they make no money in the summer... the only operating season for this random small forest art installation. I mean I guess it doesnt hurt that the town is centered around a major ice-cream factory which is both whimsical and summer appropriate but still , its in the middle of nowhere with not much else around and by design takes place only at night, but both times I went it the bookings were pretty full for the entire summer and into fall, and it was full of kids having a great time. Oh and guess what they have a gift shop full of generic fairy wings, glowsticks, and light up wands and guess what all the kids have...

obsessed with Bob. Hi bob if you see this

Hi Editing Jenny! The incoherent ghost story is a mangling of a traditional Russian fairy tale about Baba Yaga. A lot of the beats are traditional beats for this story. The threat to replace one of her old, stale skulls with a fresh one. The promise of freedom if the visitor does an impossible task, etc. Imagine someone who's only ever heard *of* Hansel and Gretel, trying to tell you the Hansel and Gretel fairy tale. You'd recognize it, even if it were horribly mangled in the telling.

He was cancelled by his suppliers for not paying his bills

Jenny I went to magi quest as a young boy at great wolf. It blew my mind and I loved it. I moved to Minnesota and It used to be in the mall of America. I was very sad to find out that it had closed by the time I moved there. Happy to see someone else talking about it.

The part of having no one walk them to their cars is insane. Even just being a bouncer for a period of time, it was never spoken or told to us, it was just known that you always walk the female bartenders to their cars and make sure they leave safely. It's insane that with incidents happening often no one thought to do this.

Your hypothesis on Bretschneider's thinking in "the bluff" is basically how all tech startups operate. You get more and more funding based on slide decks (concept art) and tech demos to hire people to build a minimum viable product that you release and then get more and more funding to grow it. They got to the Minimum Viable Product phase it sounds like and never really got the funding he expected after releasing it.

While watching this video, i wanted to visit evermore but it's closed now. However! That's not the sad part. The sad part is how the employees found out.

It was so funny seeing Jenny talk about how people defending Evermore always say certain things and blame the problems on the last managers, and then when someone from the park is asked about her video she says the *exact same things.*

Marine World, the Six Flags that you mentioned, is in my hometown! I can tell you that no matter how bad you remember it as a kid, it is 10x worse now! I went in January 2022 and for one of the animal shows it was just a cat. Like a house cat. It didn’t even do any tricks or anything. We just sat and watched a cat walk around for ten minutes and get some treats.

I used to work at a independent zoo that was more on the theme park side than the conservation/research side of animal attractions. Every summer would end in a "We're Rich!" period, followed by overspending on a halloween attraction in the fall, followed by a "We're probably closing :(" period through the winter until school field trip season started in the spring. Great business model 10/10!

I know this vid/post is a few months old but I would genuinely love your take on FNAF, whether it’s the movie or the game series or whatever. I have still yet to see the movie myself but I know the whole franchise is such a huge thing for the “kids these days” that I’d love to see it get the Jenny Nicholson treatment, even if it’s just a short 20-min or so movie talk.

I was so excited when you brought up MagiQuest. It's been a beloved part of our family for most of our kids' lives. We mostly do the Great Wolf Lodge version, which is fun, but our introduction to MQ was that very Tennessee venue. It was such a blast of nostalgia to see the interior again. I own rune necklaces and we all have wands and plushies. :) If MQ took over Evermore, it would be so much fun.

As someone from Utah who moved away before I even learned about evermore, it’s just so odd to follow this story knowing i coexisted alongside it. I also find it funny evermore was basing their survival on competing with places like fear factory for the Halloween crowds. That place is housed in an old factory parked right off i-15 with huge creepy statues and giant projections on the side of the building during the fall. It terrified me every time we drove by it when I was little, and I didn’t even know evermore existed until Jenny.

This manager saying "evermore was simply paid a flat fee upfront to be used as a venue for this quincy thing" does not AT ALL square with how the event played out and was advertised. (In my experience as an immersive actor) places that are booked solely as venues are not then made to advertise for said event, why would they waste money and effort doing that, when they've already gotten their payday and allegedly are seeing none of the ticket sales. If this was a quincy and co organized event, why would they go about adding all this extra non-quincy stuff to draw people in? From all the details you provided about how it was organized, from the catering to the DND sessions to the park admission to the fact the event had a stupid evermore-esque name like ~The Convergence~, it seems obvious that this was an event in collaboration with quincy's team to try to bring people to the park. Claiming they were merely a venue used to house the event is like seeing a celebrity will be at your local comic con, and assuming that celebrity is the one putting on the con and handling the billions of logistics around it. I'd maaaaybe doubt that claim less if it seemed like Quincy was trying to headline and organize some kind of major recurring event, akin to when fan communities get so big the fans themselves end up organizing the largest fandom events a la bronycon, but this was obviously a one time deal. Evermore acting as if the small management team of some guy who's kinda big in a highly specific tiktok niche did alllllll the event planning minutia and got alllllll of those sweet sweet vip ticket dollars is simply laughable.

Are you going to do another video now that Evermore HAS completely shutdown?

And it's offically closed now as of April. I did see an instagram from @hownottodm that the land all around Evermore is owned by Brandon Sanderson, so seems pretty likely he would try to buy that up too.

Just subscribed so I can hear these update videos. Been wanting to for awhile but can finally afford it and I’m so hyped

GIVE ME A SANDERSON LAND PLEASE!!! 🥹🥹🥹

First Patreon video I’ve seen in so excited to watch them all now this was so good

lol I am so late but PLEASE make a FNAF video lol

that ghost story being told at evermore about the skulls reminds me a bit of the russian fairy tale Vasilisa the Beautiful - the skulls on fenceposts, the gate being locked, asking the boy to do a task for her... a lot of differences but it does remind me of it

This Ghost headband is so derpy and adorable, I love it ! Where is it from ?

Honestly would love you to do a book review/reading on the Fnaf books

"Bob at Evermore" aka secret patron Bob made a video about the full closure of Evermore if anyone wants more info

News broke today but officially evermore is dead. The landowner hopes to make something of it but for now evermore legacy is your videos for me lol

Yoooo I’ve been missing your stuff on YouTube! Someone told me about your patreon and I’m so glad

An over ambitious guy trying to pretend hard enough to male his dreams a reality? The Evermore and Tommy Tallarico crossover we need

The bald scientist guy reminds me of hhbomber guy

Josh Steadman came to speak at my college a couple of years ago! Really nice guy with an interesting artistic background. This was before Evermore completely went under, but the impression I got was that it was a very chaotic time

the GALL of Bob to complain you “jumped to conclusions” when you specifically said you were making a conspiracy theory, allegedly, and on a PATREON EXCLUSIVE VIDEO 😭

I’m too adhd for the actors slow delivery and too autistic for their fake British accents.

Super forgot to comment here, but thank you for this video: I watched/listened this the day after it came out as I was decorating my brother’s house for their baby that was born that evening!! This was perfect to listen to as I untangled the streamers that immediately got tangled after I took them out of the package. So again, thanks for the great content like this that’s perfect to listen to while doing things!!

Random question have you ever heard of/been to Galaxyland?

Maybe the oriental land company can buy it...just some real investor....

i love seeing evermore updates from jenny, i feel like if people are tired of hearing about it they should just watch her other stuff…nbd

If I had to pick one other place with some kind of vague equivalency in execution, if not in concept, to Evermore, it would be This Is The Place Heritage Park up in Salt Lake City. I low key kind of recommend it next time you're in Utah. It has a similar vibe to what Evermore has ultimately become, albeit they've reached this place honestly and have never tried to be more than what they are. It even has some light LARPing elements, with actors who will occasionally give performances in the town and a Schoolhouse with unique lessons given every day. It's a small recreation of a pioneer village from the early days of Utah's settlement. It's mostly geared towards kids and is overall meant to be an educational experience, but it has other cool stuff and lots of Utah themed merch in the gift shop. I'd say if you go with LARPing in mind, most of the employees would probably play along. The only real negative is the food. There is a good donut shop and a creamery, but their one sit-down restaurant the last time we went only had snacks and drinks, no kitchen prepared food, so I'm not sure what's going on there. It does have two trains, one actual train on rails, and another that's just a big truck done up to look like a train that does tours, but it DOES have a caboose you can sit in!

They should be doing private rentals daily... some other girl made a video about LARP and how they have to set up games and rent spaces, they should exclusively rent to LARP games...

imagine if jenny's foolproof disguise was just being in the back half of a two person horse suit lmao

The best part about the horribly confusing Lore video is learning that the southern cowgirl whose entire family was eaten by werewolves seems to be still there. I’m happy to know that for some reason.

So I found something interesting but not really surprising I guess- the ticket buy page for The Convergance is still up, and has numbers for 'tickets left' in each section. Doesn't that mean those numbers are 100% fake? The page I'm looking at tells me there's still tickets available for an event in the past, with the dates right there, and takes me to a payment information screen if I go further. I'm unsure if it actually lets you pay them for an event in the past because I don't really want to give them my card info to find out, but... At least take the site down? Or redirect it? It's on its own URL so it's still being paid for by someone, or they paid for the URL for way too long a time period EDIT: I have a link but I don't really want to post a direct link to a page where you can give Evermore your card info.

This has become a horrifying expose. the park should be closed immediately. Sounds like a breeding ground for predators to run free with their fantasies, like westworld

I choose to believe Judge Adkinson from the ebooks is somehow related to Judge Adkins from Troll by Emma Clark.

the bob reveal was absolutely priceless omg bob if you’re out there please tell all. what do you know robert

Also, I want to note that Brandon Sanderson hosts a convention called Dragonsteel every year at Salt Palace. I feel like he could host the con at the shopping/dining/castle area.

It's so witch of the village codded thing to come to you knowing which you are and say "you have a lovely voice, you should do audio books"🧙‍♀️ and LEAVE like she put a curse on you🤣 old crone core

I’ve worked in a haunt as a scare actor and it’s hell. Asking someone to do it for free is insane

The last of Evernote’s petty cash was used to pay to ship antique stained glass windows to finally finish the church for the park’s funeral.

I hope that Management Q&A went straight to an employment lawyer. Jesus

Evermore makes me think of Boomtown. It is a similar concept with attendees interacting with actors across multiple districts located out of time. Except it is a music festival. They have to rebuild it in a cow field each year but, the immersion looks wild. I recommend falling down the rabbit hole with them as well. They just did a storyline reset due to the pandemic but, the pre-pandemic storyline was out there. There were ARGs and videos during the off season to set up the next story. There was even a devious mayor storyline like Evermore.

Man, the lady saying "Oh the actors just like to complain!" or whatever she said feels so much like all the interactions I've had in menial jobs with a member of middle management who likes to put out the cheerful "My office is always open, come to me with any problems!" persona and then when you show up to try to resolve a problem they just find a way to blame it all on you so they don't have to do anything.

I write murder mysteries for friends to act out at parties and so many of the clips of stories you show at Evermore remind me of the overly convoluted first drafts that I have to carefully edit and pare down to be understandable to normal people. Editing is important!!

where is Bob??

I cannot get enough of you talking about Evermore. It is by far my favorite saga.

Yes, I would love to see a more casual video like 5 nights at Freddy’s or anything else really. The epic videos are great but I miss the short casual stuff you used to do too.

Hey just found Jenny's Patreon, this is great I thought she retired or something, every few years I'd watch her stuff on YouTube and now I finally get to find out what happened to Evermore.

I would *absolutely* watch a yearly Evermore video

As a local I wonder if it's still worth going for the last few days it'll probably be open 🤔

if there is a "wrong way" or "wrong time" to go to a themepark, thats on the park not the customer haha Thanks for a fantastic surprise 2.5 hour video!! I could listen to you ramble for hours

I love hearing what you have to say about Evermore. And I'd also love to hear what you have to say about FNAF!

I feel like the weird ghost story is based on one of Hans Christian Anderson’s works. I don’t remember the tile, has anyone else heard of it?

I love your Nevermore updates, one of my favorites patreon videos of yours!! I understand some people might be tired of it but I also like some topic less then others so it's only natural.

would love to see a FNAF video!

you should totally do a fnaf video i really like those kinds of your older videos

Some MagiQuest locations did have actors! Not for the FMV role since I guess that would be difficult to keep up with so many guests needing your attention at the same time, but going there as a kid (at the standalone locations, not at Great Wolf Lodge ones lol) I remember the staff wore costumes and tried to speak in character when you would ask them where to find a certain component for a quest. I haven't been in a long time so I can't say if they still do this at some locations though. The big one in Myrtle Beach where I first went as a kid was the most immersive, with stuff you could point your wand at all along the boardwalk outside the building too, but it closed sadly :(

plzzzzz do a fnaf video it would make my life good

I am utterly fascinated by the saga of Evermore. And Ken's complete lack of soul. I'd honestly up my pledge if there was more. It's a topic that has everything: hubris, dragons, and rank incompetence.

I love your deep dives into Evermore because at this point the “lore” around it has become its own epic drama—paralleling (Class) Action Park from decades ago! I wonder if there are any other parks/attractions out there with equally crazy stories waiting to be discovered…👀 And to your ending question—would love to see shorter reaction-style videos in between your big projects!! I have to tell myself (a perfectionist artist…on the side—gotta pay rent!) that even half finished sketches make money. They may not be a multi-day masterpiece, but most people eat them up and love the “authenticity” Anyway, don’t hold yourself back by not posting more casual/shorter videos if you want! Sometimes the raw/first draft ideas are the ones that people find most compelling/beautiful/entertaining! ❤️

COVID is going around again and I really hope Jenny isn't getting it! D:

The offhand reference to the idea of "the equivalent of Halloween scare mazes for Christmas" intrigues me. Somebody should do that. Scare actors dressed as Santa Claus. Brightly lit rooms full of tinsel and inflatable snowmen. Christmas music playing at full blast. There could even be licensed mazes at Six Flags that are themed after famous Christmas movies, so park employees dressed as Will Ferrell in Elf jump out and scream in your face.

“If TV shows were written like this”…isn’t that basically the original 1960s Dark Shadows?

Before watching the video I assumed "The Ghost of Evermore" was the title Evermore employees had given you in their hushed conversations

Does anyone have a link to that Evermore Q&A?

I LOVE this drama between Evermore and you!!! It's my FAVORITE internet beef.

loved this video! this was so telling we got so much more info from the inside of evermore i was losing it when they mentioned you. A fnaf video sounds awesome!

PLEASE A FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S VIDEO....this is like a dream of mine jenny meets fnaf

pleaseeeee five nights at freddy video lol

Brandon Sanderson actually just made an announcement that he's interested in building a kind of tourist area themed around his company. Doesn't exactly sound like a theme park, but it features an old-looking castle so Evermore could be a place they have an eye on for building. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L8iJpikvSE&t=286s

HI BOB

I saw some popular dnd cosplayers doing a little dance in my fyp and I instantly recognized the dragons head from the tavern at evermore!!! So I guess that answers ur whose making content there questions!

I'm only halfway through the video, but can I point out how absolutely bonkers it is to hear their management say "We like to plan things out way way way in advance which is why we're already planning for our 2024 year" in August of 2023?? Maybe it's just my frame of reference since I work in finance (which is obviously pretty different from small theme park management), but most healthily-functioning companies have roadmaps for at least the next three years - and more commonly 5-10 years - that they revisit every year to either ensure they're on track or figure out why they're off track to 1. fix it to get back on schedule or 2. retool the roadmap to be more realistic if fixing it isn't possible. The fact that they consider planning for 2024 when they're already 2/3 of the way through 2023 as "planning way in advance" is such an enormous red flag that I had to rewind the video to make sure I didn't mishear her say 2025 somehow. This is also putting aside the fact that planning four months ahead for a theme park that heavily relies on storytelling and interactive actors to provide an experience for customers is so obviously not enough time to create a compelling story, write guidelines for actors (and scripts for the scripted parts), design costumes if needed, acquire decorations / set pieces to help with the atmosphere, and everything else that I'm not even thinking of because I'm not the one who's working in management at a theme park! It's genuinely kind of impressive how Evermore is managing to screw up every possible element of running an even semi-functioning company - like Ken was successful in the past, was he just sorta hands-off with the management of his other projects and more competent people handled the operations? Did he just get lucky? Is running a theme park just a vastly different endeavor to any other kind of business? I need answers and I'm never going to get them TT_TT Sorry for the comment rant - I work in project management which involves a lot of long-term roadmap development and shorter-term project planning, hearing that one sentence shook me to my core and I need to make other people understand because holy shit

Your impression of an adorkable evermore actor was so on point it was nauseating to listen to, great job

seeing as this will be your last evermore vid for a bit, it’s just so crazy to think about how much potential this park had. people love the ren faire and want to have a place they can escape to and they fumbled so bad. my local ren faire is awesome, and while there are many i assume employees there, almost everyone is in character. evermore just tried to create so much lore that isn’t tangible to all visitors. they could keep the lore about what evermore is and the portals lore or whatever that all is. people obviously want to have a similar dnd adjacent and feel like they are on a journey but i think that is an experience that is more or less impossible to recreate in such a small environment. such a shame!!! but ren faires reign supreme with their yelling men selling pickles

you are my comfort youtuber. this month has been rough, as is for most people during the holidays when deadlines are closing in. i've missed your videos and decided to subscribe to your patreon once i realized you post other videos here. not to sound parasocial, but thank you for always being here, i rewatch your videos a ton and im so glad you post here.

The fact that this season pass costs more than the gold Dollywood pass that gets you so much more is crazy.

“I’ve been a Patreon subscriber just to keep eyes on the Evermore situation.” I laugh as Jenny makes a funny face and begin to rub my weary eyes. My hands instinctively recoil as they meet a foreign shape. They begin to shake as I look with these unfamiliar eyes upon hands that are not my own. “He’s among us! You guys, he’s here!” Her words barely making it through the panic overtaking my body. I sprint to the bathroom and without daring to look in the mirror, turn the faucet on and begin splashing water on my face. As my dripping hands explore a foreign face, desperately searching for anything familiar, a flash of memories. A tripod, a camera, a manager without media training sitting next to me. Questions. viewers. Blacklists. “This can’t be possible!” I try to talk myself into believing. “I’ve never been to Evermore. I haven’t even been in Utah state lines and over a decade.” But these statements fail to convince me, and like Quincy during the Convergence, all other possibilities disappear before I can engage with them. I slowly tilt my head to look in the mirror and confirm the horrible truth I already know: I was Bob the entire time.

You, in particular, doing a Five Nights at Freddy's video sounds fantastic. You doing a horror video game sounds ironic. But it is about an animatronic restaurant, which is technically among your specialties.

I'm quite literally begging you to make a fnaf video

yes please fnaf!

YES! Five Nights of Freddy video please!

Jenny, I can't believe you did six hours of Evermore videos and only now mentioned they have novels for some reason.

a fnaf video would make people go so insane, if you want to do it you definitely should! thank you for another amazing video thank you for all the work you put in:)

Omg I lost it when she read "ozymandias nodded"

Evermore using AI generated images on their website and audiodrama is truly exactly what I expected they would do

Please do a Five Nights at Freddie's video!

just so you're aware, Brandon Sanderson just announced plans to build a themed bookstore in Utah. they said it's in early development and that they're still looking for land to purchase in the Utah county area (the area Evermore is located). they didn't mention Evermore by name, but their plans for the area surrounding it was ambitious enough I wouldn't be surprised if they're considering that spot

I'd love to see a fnaf video, the movie was such a weird mix of fun ban and bad bad

Not only is it astonishing how bad she made the park look, the Q+A woman reminds me of many managers I've had. The type of person who will step on the employees under her and throw them under the bus in order to raise her own standing. I thought Bob really sucked for just accepting all of her answers uncritically until I remembered she is his boss, I guess. The whole thing is so bizarre.

jenny i would like to say that a fnaf video would be wonderful and if you want to do it please do! thank you <3

I recently joined your patreon because I wanted more Evermore trainwreck videos so I'm glad to see you excited to talk more about it, and possibly create more Evermore content in the future.

Ken making his professional business statements via personal FB is soooooo Utah

Thanks for the additional Evermore tea! I'm not tired of it at all! But I would enjoy a FNAF quick video if you were excited about it! Looking forward to Starcruiser when you feel able to finish. :-)

The Q&A is a genuinely jaw-dropping combination of what are clearly the "party line" turns of phrase responding to real criticism (i.e. "outdated" observations) mixed with what feels like thoughtless honesty. The lack of media training is so real and it comes off defensive. I get why when you're *all in* but like...clearly this isn't working Ken!!! Do something actually different, like fix your attitude!

Are there any plans to release a preview for the Star Cruiser video? I got really excited when you said last time that it would be out in November. And I know you're busy but a preview would really make my day. You posting a video is really a highlight of my month.

I enjoy the Evermore updates and yes please to the FNAF video!

Omg pls give me yearly evermore updates, I have just binge watched all three videos and have such a morbid interest in this stupid park

This might be the most important video in the trilogy hearing from the park what’s actually going on inside. And to see them directly shade Jenny and her reaction to it was amazing and hilarious. Would love to see a FNAF video, even if it’s negative. I really liked the movie and I’d love to know your thoughts on it!

I gasped multiple time during this one, ESPECIALLY the live QnA. Big Evermore Brother is watching, spooky!!!

where’s the new evermore video she referenced?

FNAF video would be so fun! Also this video was fantastic.

You being directly shaded in an video from evermore people is just wild and killing me

It's wild that people think that going on the wrong day is not a direct sign of a failing business

I 100% wanna hear your thoughts on the fnaf movie. Especially if they're gonna be in the same vein as ur creepypasta videos where you say what you think works and what Doesn’t.

YESS MORE evermor

Ok, the MagiQuest mention got me very excited and hopeful for a Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg related video. It's my fav tourist trap and I would love to see Jenny do a video about it. Also thank you for the continued evermore content, it is getting me thru med school finals prep rn

I'm glad we got that villain tier list, finally! F Tier: Current management D Tier: Previous management C Tier: Management before them B Tier: The skullduggerous Beldam A Tier: Ken S Tier: That dude wearing Tip-Top's skin

I will always watch a new Evermore video

i will never get tired of evermore videos it’s at a point where after almost every video i watch youtube autoplays the evermore video bc they know i will watch it in full and i will do so every single time

Would love an FNAF video! Specifically your thoughts on the animatronics??? I loved the movie personally and am curious on your thoughts

fnaf video sounds so fun!!!

I think a five nights at freddy's video sounds so interesting!!

i need a poster of the cover of that ebook novella

i, like many, am eternally pro-evermore content. also strongly pro-FNAF video!!!

My jaw is on the floor with the sexual assault section of the livestream. I am very sorry for all the current and former employees who clearly are not working in a remotely safe environment.

I love hearing about evermore shenanigans, you think it’s hit its peak and just keeps getting wilder

The Bob among us reveal was a WILD turn

I miss your old random relatively shorter videos, so I'd definitely be interested in a FNAF video.

I would LOVE a FNAF Video from you. Not just because I'd like to hear your take on the super confusing Lore, but also because you really love Animatronics and you bring in a lot of knowledge about that. Haven't really seen someone talk about FNAF from that angle yet. As for Evermore the entire story is just fascinating for me. I don't think I'd be ever bored of it. I completely understand not wanting to make a video on it for a while now, if only to not burn out yourself on that topic.

Love the idea that when this Victorian family's child died, they gave the other kid not just a doll but a VENTRILOQUIST'S DUMMY of their deceased twin. Also, I'm very disappointed they didn't word-for-word copy the origin of the evil dummy from Goosebumps.

Bring the FNAF! Also, I don't get tired of the Evermore story since it is quite a fascinating one.

FNAF video sounds fun!!

I called immediate- IMMEDIATE bull when he said Meow Wolf. I can't believe anyone would even SAY that, let alone believe it...

I hope you do go back every year. I will literally watch all of your Evermore content at least three times. There's something about Evermore and the way you discuss it that I find incredibly compelling; maybe because it feels like such an exciting and immersive idea but it's just not executed well, so it fires my imagination but doesn't give me FOMO for not actually going. But I've also seen videos online of glimpses of what I wish it was: beautiful locations (shot at night, as you've rightly pointed out, since that works best), compelling character interactions, complex stories guests can be part of. I do hope that Evermore does at least one more season like that and that you're able to go, though from the sound of things it's a little less and less every time as they lose money and public interest/goodwill. :( Still, for as long as there is an Evermore, I have hope, and I think that's what these videos both feed and comfort (since they make me feel I'm not actually missing the magical experience I'm imagining).

I'll never be tired of evermore, would LOVE a yearly video

We want the fnaf!!!!!!

I had no idea Brandon Sanderson wants to open his own bookstore, but I love your hypothetical EverSander fusion

The picture really looks like Kanye to me

a ) i'll never be tired of hearing about evermore b ) omg yes please do a five nights at freddy's video

Trapped on an island with Bob from Evermore...

that q&a portion was surreal. like obviously they knew about your videos but how absurd to be a theme park and publicly address it, and to do so in this really unprepared format.

The woman in the livestream saying that if your evermore video had come out a week later the suggestions you made would have already been would have been done is so funny. Like you JUST made those changes the week that video came out? And that's just a coincidence?

The lady in the livestream.. is that the same woman as those Evermore videos with the puppets? She sounds familiar. Also, I'd love to see a FNAF video! It's got that theme park/restaurant situation so your take on it would probably be really interesting :)

honestly i had a good laugh in the return to evermore video when you said you were scared to show your face because i was like, jenny, you’re acting like they have your face up in the back with PUBLIC ENEMY NO 1 written above it……but clearly they kinda do!

i for one love evermore content

i would love to see you make a fnaf video! i know from your twitter youre not familiar with the games and as someone who also isnt i think that perspective makes it like 50x funnier so i think it would be great content

I am like a small Victorian orphan going door to door begging for Evermore scraps to feast upon, and Jenny has provided a hardy thanksgiving meal. There is literally no end to my hunger for more Evermore content, it is just such a baffling story.

I also would love a FNAF vid! I’m interested in all scary movies, and so those tend to be my favorite vids of yours, when there’s anything remotely scary involved.

Oh also, the Q&A reactions to talking about the Convergence were so weird. Even if they didn't consider it their event, the park's buildings were closed to guests with no actors during VIP days, right? Are they suggesting that that's all Quincy's fault and he didn't actually reserve the park's actors for the two VIP days? Wish we could get a clear answer on that but pretty weird either way. I don't understand their nonchalance at throwing away free advertising like that while also thinking it doesn't impact Evermore's reputation if an event like that goes sour.

Great video! I loved watching it, but oh my god, I don't think I could watch the part with the manager again. Just so sad and aggravating to hear about those issues from the general manager and no suggestions to do anything about it besides a blacklist it takes multiple strikes to get on. Would love a FNAF video though!

I'd like to see a FNAF video just so I can finally understand what people see in that franchise. In every horror movie discord I'm in there are always like obsessive FNAF fans comparing it to classic horror and saying things like "it's better than anything Stephen King ever wrote" and it takes everything I have to stay my hand. Either these people are all 13 years old or this franchise must be the best thing since sliced bread.

You’re telling me there was a rumour that Kanye West was going to invest in the park that had a feud with Taylor Swift? I wonder why people believed that

Building onto the impossible but lovely dream: if Evermore merged with Magiquest, you could introduce different classes. Instead of only wands, you could have short swords, tiny bows, daggers, lutes, a tiny imp (for warlocks) and so forth. Straight up build off Evermore's existing guilds. Regulars could then collect the different merch and quests for the classes. It'd be LARPing at a new level. That'd be so much fun.

i would LOVE to see a fnaf video

I can never get enough of the rather good but not quite convincing English accents

I’ll never be tired of Evermore and yes 100% do the FNAF video!!

Me watching videos about Jenny watching videos about Bob watching Jenny make videos about Bob's workplace... makes me wonder if someone's watching me type this

yes please talk about fnaf!!

PLEASE do the five nights at freddies video

WE WANT NUMBERS, QUINCY!

please jenny do a fnaf vid

fascinating. like a train wreck

Thanks for the vid Jenny. I would love a five nights at freddy's video

Thanks for another great video Jenny. We know it takes hours and always enjoy your stuff!

While I personally agreed that animatronics was a better fit for the season, and that an Evermore video would be more appropriate in a month or two, I absolutely was not disappointed by this video! The live stream alone made it worth it. My jaw was on the floor pretty much that whole section just... yikes. I almost feel bad for the park rep. I don't think Ken thinks things through enough to intentionally designate someone as a scapegoat (the rest of that clip about the set design guy really sheds some light on the type of person Ken likely is to me), but that is what is essentially happening. I get the feeling she has worked with the park for a while, but I also get the feeling that she not only hasn't done media training, but that her customer service experience is probably limited to basic things, and nothing that requires more nuance (like a guest services position). Because in positions that require any degree of nuance you learn that you've often gotta couch what you're saying so that either what you're saying is possibly taken better, or so that it isn't taken the wrong way. And it's clear that while she is well spoken the rep just...does not have experience navigating those kinds of things on likely even a smaller level, much less on a larger scale (like acting as an official rep in media appearances). But even beyond that, stuff like openly admittedly the park has a huge issue with guests' assault of actors that likely has been a problem since day one and has continued to this day, and openly addressing Jenny's video (at least in this casual a manner) are beyond unbelievable to me. Then of course there's Bob's entire character arc in this video, only to find him in these comments. Genuinely wild.

(I would love an fnaf video.) It was really fun to see MagiQuest! There used to be a standalone one in the town I grew up in, and it was my favorite place ever--I completed all the quests and got as much merch as my parents would allow me to spend my money on. I think I even got one of those wand holsters. I was never brave enough to dress up but always wanted to, so MagiQuest in a place where cosplay is expected would be a dream for me!

Ok, Editor Jenny’s summary of the skull situation was one of her funniest moments…BEWARE!

A Five Night's at Freddy's video would be REALLY good I feel

Sorry, had to skip the whole Discord chat section of this video, I cannot stand hearing "managers" be so disingenuous. "I wasn't here when it happened so I can't speak to that." "Will it happen again?" "No!". These people are genuinely so brainless they don't even realize they display their lies so clearly. I grew up thinking people like this were trying to be clever or devious, but it looks like they're just flat-out mentally dysfunctional.

Was the gaslighter the the random guy on the Jenny subreddit who kept insisting that Jenny's video was filmed the day Evermore reopened after Covid? That dude would not shut up and was just wrong. Was he the park gaslighter? He also insisted that the second visit was all Quincy's fault. Repeatedly.

I was thinking of Trapped in an Island with Josh Hutcherson the whole time I watched FNAF. I would loooove a video on it!

i honestly love the evermore content and i really appreciate how much you focus on actor safety in ur criticisms!! also idk if you’ve ever heard of a haunted house called the darkness? but it seems like you’d rly like some of the animatronics/puppets in the scare maze

loved this video a lot!! thank you for the updates!!! i would KILL to hear a fnaf video from you!!

Right now I'm about 1.5 hours in and in the middle of the video with the manager. It is wild that not only do they have someone with no media relations experience giving official statements on behalf of the park, but that they either did it as a live stream or filmed the video and thought "yeah, that's good, put it out". That absolutely should have been filmed ahead of time and reviewed before releasing it. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we got it. But from a business perspective it is beyond shocking that it is an official, sanctioned video put out by Evermore.

„The Illusion of Building a Theme Park“ by Ken Bretschneider: Learn all the secrets to the „fake it till you make it“ method and (Ever)more! …Although it would probably have to be a what-not-to-do and pitfalls book for it to be credible and have a shot at the New York Times bestseller list (: Maybe then there will be enough money to revive his theme park?

Bretschneider is such a perfect example of the Idea Guys who float around any creative field shouting about how if THEY were in charge they'd totally make the most badass thing ever and show all those dummies how it's done. Turns out when one of those guys actually has the money to take a swing at it he does stupid stuff like blow the entire budget on real gravestones because actually making a theme park/movie/game/etc takes a lot more than just a cool idea. I'm not surprised he responds to criticism by lashing out and moaning about cancel culture or whatever; I'm sure he'll spend the rest of his life thinking Evermore failing to catch on was everyone's fault but his own.

I never get tired of Evermore videos! And YES to a Five Nights at Freddy’s video!

On the subject of pay inequality, it's really bad in Utah. Men earn 37% more than women on average. And among BYU graduates specifically, men earn 90% more than women. It's egregious. And it's really sad to see a Utah based woman pretending it's not happening. The general ignorance about this situation is a part of what perpetuates it.

in my home town in the uk, what has been described as 'the world's biggest play park' has recently opened. it's themed as an 'elven village' (but is supposed to have houses associated with multiple clans of fantasy creatures??) and at one point the gimmick was supposed to be that it was 'christmas all year' until they realised that was dumb. it's basically our very own evermore but what's extra fun and weird about it is that instead of a former tech ceo, it was built by a literal duchess who lives in the castle next door to where the playpark is (a castle that was famously used as a filming location for harry potter) so it's kind of like a cross between evermore park and marie antoinette's hamlet at versaille in that its a fantasy village she built on the grounds of her castle. also, she stated she wanted to build it to 'get those damn kids off their phones' (her words paraphrased) which is pretty funny to me. the reviews have been pretty bad so far, there have been injuries and also its almost entirely staffed by local teens who dress up as elves to interact with the kids. it has been a fascination for me to watch and hear about its development (there's even been a weird propoganda-y 'documentary' on british tv following the duchess as she develops it) and when the first evermore video dropped, me and my friends were all joking about the similarities.

fnaf video sounds fun!

I'm 100% here for Evermore-related content.

FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S!!!!!!!!!!

It kind of baffles me that there are still diehard fans of evermore. How have they not become disillusioned by all of its bs ?? It doesn’t even seem like a very fun place to go lol

I don't have words for my reaction to that Q&A. The amount of times I audibly gasped in pure horror listening to the things that woman said... I mean, some of it because I was shocked at her mean spiritedness in some of her comments like the "too bad for you" remark, but also because of the things that she described happening, and the statistics she was presenting, and the stuff she talked about happening to her, holy shit. I think in the end I can only really feel bad for her and how she's another person being exploited by this carnival huckster scheme of a theme park and one in a line of workers mistreated and traumatized by it while also being forced to be the public face and speak for it. Good lord. I mean I don't know that she's being forced maybe she sincerely volunteered but still, what a difficult position to be in. (also that overly convoluted ghost story is genuinely the funniest shit ever omg I think the way the actor presents it so seriously just makes it better)

Yes, please do FNAF!

i would adore a fnaf video!!!

Hi Bob

@evermore bob what do u have to say for yourself 🎤🎤🤨 also yes pls x1000 to FNAF vid :-)

do they have a show writer? how is it simultaneously so clear that nothing has been planned but also crazily draconian in its plot developments?? why not give the actors a real monologue for the finale (and even some stock lines for everyday interactions) so that they don’t just ramble inaudibly about stuff that happened offscreen?

LOVED THIS LONG VIDEO!

fnaf yes!

YESSS FNAF VIDEO YES!!!!!

Did anyone else notice around 2:18:56 there's a girl that looks to be dressed up as Greg from over the garden wall during the Evermore livestream! Totally random but I love that show and thought that was cute lol

This is pretty old but I would love to hear your thoughts on Patrick Spikes and his interrogation video when he was caught for the Buzzy theft. I know you did a video before they caught him so it be interesting to hear you speak about afterwards

More Evermore please

evermore? more like everless 😤

I will never get tired of evermore content Alsoooo scrolling through all these comments to see if Bob popped in definitely paid off 👀

The amount of weird twists in this video omg. That skull story sounds like a kid playing pretend, especially with the affected accent lmao

I'd definitely be interested in a FNAF video, even as somebody who knows next to nothing about the franchise- your videos on new films are always fun. It would also be nice to see some Christmassy content at some point, although maybe it's too short notice at this point. Not that my opinion on these things counts for much, just make whatever kinds of videos you're passionate about. :P

Okay, the management Q&A part is absolutely mind-boggling. It’s buck wild that somebody affiliated with the park would come out and say, “Oh yeah, sexual assault happens ALL the time here.”

The star of this ramble was Jenny's fairy voice 😂 I watched that scene 10 times in a row it was amazing! Oh also if the FNAF vid happens I'd like to see Jenny try and dress as Chica with that evil cupcake thing.

Hi Bob

as a huge fnaf fan for a long time a video on it from your perspective would be interesting especially since most parts of the movie i was thinking how much people who don’t know the franchise would be so confused

Fnaf 👎

When I've gone to events with interactive actors, there are signs up at the entrance and in the park reminding guests that they are not allowed to touch the actors and that doing so will result in immediate expulsion from the event. The local amusement park does a big Halloween event every year with multiple haunted houses, and you get a spiel from the door person at every haunted house with the reminder not to touch the actors. One guy was like, "You may not touch the actors. The actors may not touch you physically, but they may touch you emotionally." Like, they're very clear about it, and that's not really that hard to communicate.

Hi Bob! I understand trying to defend and stand up for the park. But the park is a mess and will never get fixed because there is no money to fix it. And the way to do the storytelling is a time loop. Where everyone can perform the same act each day and repeat guests can view other actors performing to get more of the story. And it can still build to a finale.

Oof, the candid discussion of how people at the park were mistreated by guests (and how ultimately little the park was doing about it) was so hard to listen to. "Our actors have PTSD from working here" is an insane thing to have to say (and like you mentioned, it's extra insane that she's saying it as an official representative of the company interacting with press)

so down for a fnaf video

As someone who works in continuing TV drama - yeah, people burn out all the time! Jenny is right, they plan for that and get more people in! It's a very strange excuse to be like "long form storytelling is simply too hard we had to give up" when shows have run for DECADES. Speaking of, knowing the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes of even quite chaotically plotted shows makes Evermore's "just throw any old shit at the wall" approach genuinely professionally stressful.

Okay I'm just at the part where you're reacting to the livestream and she's talking about stuff that's happened to the actors. Which I'm very sorry for, that's gross, and if the percentage is that high it's mind blowing the park has done nothing to fix that very real problem besides apparently give their actors a speech about not interacting with fan pages, but anyway I digress. The thing that caught my attention is that she said she started as an actor and was then promoted, and other people in management were in the same position, and I just have to rant about this for a second because this is a problem I've run into in the workplace a lot lately. Promotion from within is not always a great idea for a business, and sure, it can be great if staff are given the proper training, but something I've noticed with the corporation I work for is that they like to promote from within so they can skirt around the up front cost of getting somebody with proper training for the position. The owners, or whoever is in charge, have favorite's and these are usually the people who end up getting promoted, and because they have no experience in management the company can get away with paying a lower wage because they're "in training" and they're also a lot easier to manipulate. It makes so much sense to me that Evermore would have a toxic promotion cycle like this because if they were to hire somebody who actually had training, experience, or education, they wouldn't put up with all the bullshit, and they would cost more, which is something the park needs, but also will probably never do. It just bugs me because it almost always ends up in the people being promoted having way too much responsibility thrust onto their shoulders with none of the proper preparation. I've seen so many people get promoted this way and then slowly dissolve into a withered shell of themselves because they're so stressed. It's notable too, that often times they were promoted in the first place because they were recognized by upper management as a hard worker, aka. somebody who will sacrifice for the company and be pushed around easily. Which means they're now in charge of fixing the mess they've been promoted into but they are still completely restricted by the instructions of the upper management who actually created the mess in the first place. Its a system that sets it's people up for failure and makes the turnover rate make so much sense.

YES FNAF !!!!!

i will never be tired of evermore videos. i let out such a gasp of shock when bob said he was subbed to the patreon. hi, bob.

First of all, I would never get tired of yearly Evermore videos. I'm not even a theme park person, but the way you talk about them in general, and Evermore in particular, is so interesting. I also know nothing about five nights at freddy's except that it has scary animatronics and apparently lore? I'm not gonna watch the movie so your video would be my only real exposure to it. It sounds like the Starcruiser video has been such a slog to work on, so if you think it'd be nice to do something a little more casual, go for it!

Bob is literally amongus

Please check out Wizard's Quest in the Wisconsin Dells someday!

Watching you live-respond to people talking about you was awesome content. I hope it doesn't cause drama or anything.

I’ll never tire of evermore

I think a more casual approach to the facility would be a good place to start, with the anchor store/castle with interesting and fun grounds to walk in, free admission, as described by Jenny. With various vendors in the buildings, people might have reason to go there more often. I could imagine a farmers' market, florist, coffee shop. It's far less interesting, not really a theme park at all, but also a more reasonable goal. Is there a Renn fair in Utah already? Ours in Maryland has been profitable for 35 years I believe, and they are only open two months a year.

hi bob!!!

DRAMA

Yesss to FNAFFFF

There can never be enough Evermore videos, I disagree with he naysayers in the vote's comment section intensely. I love every single one. A yearly Evermore update would be amazing!

I'm obsessed with your ghost headband

"one of the witch's skulls" needs to be tier

more like.......nevermore...

I like the idea of building a castle as some sort of anchor point for the park, but I thought Jenny was going to keep on with suggesting, I don't know, some sort of Central Thoroughfare leading towards it from the front gate, or maybe off to the side a sci-fi area called Future Place

The first video of yours I ever watched was your Fantastic Beasts movie discussion - so I'd love to see a more casual FNAF video in that style!!

1:58:20 "The Spider Queen"? Just me or is that a dig? What would Plush Aragog say?

yes fnaf!! I love the shorter vids about unhinged movies i haven't seen! (but i also love the long ones just as much : D)

But are you going to narrate audiobooks

'I bought all of them and I skimmed all of them" is the faintest praise of all

I have zero knowledge or interest in FNAF.... so yeah by all means make a video and I'll end up watching it 20 times if the past is any indication

Would love to see trapped in a fnaf with Josh Hutcherson

Evermore Bob being on here was a dramatic revelation.

fnaf video would be wonderful!! hope you didnt get too sick!!!!!

I think a FNaF review (or any movie review) like 20 minutes or less would be great and should appease some of the people who miss the shorter videos

fnaf!

all hail the evermore trilogy

Meow Wolf (Santa Fe) does hire actors in the summer! They’re in amazing costumes, some dance, they mostly add atmosphere and make the space more alive.

fnaf video yes please absolutely. good idea for multiple reasons: 1) topical 2) you get to talk about animatronics 3) i would like it (most important)

I don't mind a FNAF video. All I can say is every time my partner asks if there's a new Jenny video, and I say "no," she gets angrier and angrier. I don't know how much more anger she has left to muster.

It is crazy to me that anyone could get tired of the downward spiral that is Evermore. Would love to see some more casual content if you’re up to it Jenny! I think if there’s something you’d have fun talking about, then you should do it, because I’m pretty sure we’d all enjoy watching it.

I'm so mad at all this Evermore content. Just hours upon hours upon hours of Evermore! It never ends! I had to cancel Thanksgiving plans. "Sorry Mom, she just won't stop making Evermore videos! Tell Dad I said hi."

58:00 As an IT guy, you don't use wireless for high bandwidth applications, like video, in public settings, cause of interference. Too much consumer electronics in one place wreaks havoc with the unlicensed WiFi wireless spectrum. You'd have to use industry WiFi tech on licensed spectrum to escape the consumer electronics flood. And that's not cheap, nor easy to maintain.

i got jumpscared when you said the name "judge atkinson" cause i honest to god for a split second thought it was going to be judge adkins from troll

I had secondhand cringe so hard with the Q&A started talking about Jenny omg. Also, I love Meow Wolf and I think have commented in the past that they are a great example of how to do what Evermore tries to do better, but yeah I don't think they would buy Evermore, it's not their MO at all

At first I thought that witch story was a reference to the Baba Yaga because she is an old hag that has a fence decorated w/ skulls & "Evan" sounds pretty close to "Ivan." But then it just... went off the rails

Yes please regarding the FNAF video!! 🙏

MagiQuest is incredible!! It definitely succeeds at what Evermore tries to do.

I have such an acutely negative interest in anything FNAF related at all, so I will probably not watch it if you make it, but follow your dreams, y'know?

I’m personally not “tired” of Evermore, but the people side of the story is a bummer. People putting in extra unpaid work for a mess of a park. Weird stuff with actors calling out guests by name in a story. The lack of security and people being harassed in a park. The revolving door of people being fired or laid off. The details of how this park became a mess are funny and fascinating. The human story behind the park just sad. I like the idea of a yearly check in until the park eventually closes or gets sold off. I would be down for a FNAF video.

omg i did a magiquest once at a great wolf lodge as a kid! it's stuck out in my memory all these years because i really had a blast doing it, but i could never remember what it was called. thank you for the segment on it, i feel like part of my memory has fallen back into place!

Ok, I love hearing more about evermore (clearly we're invested) BUT ALSO I SEE THAT MUSHROOM STOOL BACK THERE

Yes please re: FNAF video

I worked at the Dickens Fair for a few years (funny to hear it come up haha), and the conversation about all the reports of bad behavior by guests was very interesting. There’s a certain amount of creepy guest behavior you can’t control in live theatre, but it sounds to me like almost no measures are being taken within Evermore to minimize these situations. For instance, it seems like Evermore has a really minimal, maybe even no backstage. That makes it really hard for actors to leave when a creepy guest interaction happens, because there are no easily accessible areas where patrons can’t go. That’s the sort of thing you need to think about when protecting your actors. Getting reports every single weekend with a cast of that size is ludicrous, and it won’t be solved by lecturing your actors about not talking on the fan Discord.

that's 100% kanye

Make as much Evermore content as you want, I will happily follow this story to each increasingly sad ending.

This is WAY better than part 2.

Jenny I want to be you when i grow up (I’m 27)

Yes please FNAF!

I do want a quickie FNAF video, I really do. I still cannot decide if I want to watch it or not, having zero knowledge of the games.

A casual FNAF video sounds fun! I don't plan to see the movie itself, but I think a review from you would actually be more entertaining 😆

Like this comment if you’re Bob

Im totally in for a casual FNAF video 👏

the magiquest mention jumpscared me i loved it so much as a kid and there's this crazy rabbit hole to go down about the change in management and stuff lollll

PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT FNAF

Chiming in to say I'm not tired of hearing about Evermore. But I do think maybe one vid per year at most would be the way to go. It'd be an interesting progress report type of thing.

53:11 Obsessed with the fact that the graphic designer for the Ghost Tour webpage has just slapped the Snapchat logo on there like no one would notice. Nothing to see here just a licensed vector image.

I did not vote for this topic because I foolishly thought what else could there possibly be to say about Evermore?! Boy was I mistaken. This was excellent and I look forward to yearly Evermore vids until the park finally closes for good or who knows Evermore might outlive us all 🤷 I would also welcome a FNAF vid. I watched it the other day having never played the games and thought it was fine, but would love to hear Jenny's take on the movie :D

This place seems like a nightmare in absolutely all respects.

Is the Starcruiser video far enough along to get a preview video soon? Really excited to get to see how its coming along, even if its a WIP!

BOB! Be chill!!

If the Meow Wolf rumor gets enough attention, especially if someone high up has money they just gave Ken which would partially legitimize it, Meow Wolf would likely have to make some kind of public statement clearing up any confusion - to not tie their name to the park and its controversies.

I believe, in Bob's mind, the fly was Jenny.

Your videos are all perfect!!! :) don’t make yourself sick stressin!!!

I am not tired of the Evermore content. Also I am totally down for a FNAF video.

Anyone who's read John Carreyrou's book Bad Blood, about Elizabeth Holmes might see similarities between Evermore and Theranos. Is this how tech people normally get money?

OMG PLS A FNAF VIDEO

A FNaF video would be so cool! Oh my gosh I would love to hear your thoughts on the movie. FNaF fans would probably be annoying in the comments about you not knowing every piece of lore but I think that makes it more fun. :D

Silently highlighting the typos on their website was peak comedy

Don't underestimate the amount of MagicQuest merch at Great Wolf. Not only does it have its own store for wands, capes, and accessories (including guilds!) but they also have their own Build-A-Bear line of original MagiQuest characters. Want a plush version of Foli, the leaf creature caretaker of the Source Tree? Only $10 more with your $99.99 Wolf Pass!

FNAF video would be very fun!

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THE FRACTUUURE

I, for one, would adore a FNAF episode, that sounds fun! Also, more Evermore content sounds delightful. But who cares about all that Coral is dressed as a spider <333333

What do you mean the ghosts in haunted mansion aren't real

I'd love to watch Jenny take on FNaF as a concept. Sounds pretty entertaining

I personally love these Evermore videos, it's practically dense Jenny lore at this point.

I can just picture a year from now: someone bulldozing that expensive rare archway and not even knowing.

I think a fnaf video sounds really awesome! I'd really like to hear more about what your takes are.

I didn't think I wanted more Evermore but I was wrong. I wonder if Ken has approached the hilarious disaster millionaire Nile Niami? Seems like they'd make a great business pair.

Forgot to mention this in a previous comment but since you talked about Lagoon, I also went there when I visited Evermore and it was fun! I'm a bigger fan of coasters and thrill rides than you are, so it was definitely more worth it for me than it might be for you, but I also found the spooky little dark rides really charming. They were pretty short, around Mr. Toad at Disneyland length, maybe a little longer, but I enjoyed them. They were cute. Halloween is probably the best time to go though if they have mazes for additional theming. Definitely don't go in the summer though. It was like 103 degrees when I was there so. Rip.

I want to believe that it was Kanye West and it's an escalation of their feud with Taylor Swift. At the Christmas event we'll see Jake Gyllenhaal drinking hot cocoa in a red scarf and fake elf ears

Salt Lake City has like 3 very high quality scare mazes and Utah county (where pleasant Grove is) has a few fine ones. evermore is a fine one.

I would love to see Jenny go to wizards quest in the Wisconsin dells seeing how much she enjoyed Magi quest. Someone else mentioned it already but it’s kind of similar to magi quest but geared more towards adults while being still fun for kids. The environmental design in the whole building is phenomenal and they pretty recently moved into a huge new building that’s three floors and very expansive. So many secret rooms and areas, each area is themed to a certain element. There are no actors but I kind of prefer that since the experience is so engaging on its own actors aren’t really needed. People tend to pass it up since it’s in the middle of a tourist trap downtown but it’s genuinely one of my favorite places and I have been going since I was a kid. The one thing I will mention is some of the puzzles require use of black light and the ones they give u don’t always work well which can stop u from completing certain quests, but there’s so much to do that u can just move onto something else. There are also some quests that require crawling through some tight squeezes and as a tall person that can be pretty dicey but for a kid is extremely fun.

FNAF would be so so fun! Love the evermore vids, can't wait to watch them all together

We see you Bob….. We see you…..

I just want you to know finding out about two more Evermore videos absolutely made me pledge on here, so thank you for the rambles! I always wondered what their response to your original video was and now we know 😂 Also, FNAF video would be amazing.

- FNAF please oh my god. I don't know how one can make a simple FNAF video but I want more animatronics people to talk about it.

Jenny is wearing her future Evermore disguise on her head- sheet ghost

Okay wildly hilarious that if you go to the evermore website today, the Christmas theme is up and it’s a “Dickens Christmas with a T W I S T!!!” What are they odds that went up in the 18 hours since this video posted?

In the theme of FNAF, have any of y’all checked out the Rockafire Explosion documentary?? I think it gave an interesting look into the animatronic band craze of the 80s while exploring the hold that nostalgia can have over people. The thought of the creator of the band just pacing through his big warehouse full of deteriorating animatronics and tech was so eerie to me!

Every video i am getting more and more annoyed at Brettschneider. I have had a boss like that, who dreamt big, and thought up cool concepts, and was personaly insulted when I said demoralising things like, "Hey, i've worked a couple of events, i don't think we can find a location, organize catering, and advertise to visitors in a two week timeframe for a 50+ people event." Like, no. I haven't done it. And if you can pull it off, I'll be very impressed at your skills. But asking "how will we actually do this? How are you accounting for the worst case scenario? What's your fire safety protocol? Who on staff is responsible for first aid?" isn't being mean when someone is running a business.

Great video! Every scene from Evermore is like a video game where the NPC's have written the story and dialogue...

Would love to hear your thoughts on fnaf!

The dead end roleplay makes me think of that moment in TAZ… “What’s your story, Cassidy?” “I don’t think I should tell you guys this. You’re here to kill all of us and steal my root beer barrels.” “Good improv, Cassidy. way to say yes. Let me try again. So what’s your story?” “Well, I’m glad you asked-”

I think Christmas is a big missed opportunity for Evermore. It would not be too difficult to have a Yule celebration (it is Utah though, and maybe that would upset the majority Mormon customer base they probably have). They could also easily do a Victorian Christmas and have carolers, a lights display would not be too difficult to pull off, and that could be a big source of income for them. As it stands, Philadelphia City Hall has a bigger Christmas festival than evermore. And it isn't even a theme park, it's an operating municipal building.

TFW you watch a Q&A and they're talking about YOU

yes I think more casual videos would be fun! like someone else commented recently I think you're stressing yourself out too much with thinking of main channel videos. we're here for you on patreon!

a fnaf video would be amazing!!

Bob the EverMole

The fake British accents in the audio plays 😭😭😭

Not the plagiarism of CS Lewis in the podcast

love this ramble, and would love an FNAF fun lil vid. I haven’t seen FNAF but your Dumbo/Fantastic Beasts/Joker videos are all so good

Firstly, I would love a FNAF video even if it slightly pushes back the timeline on the starcruiser one! Take your time. Secondly, hi Bob (everything Jenny said about "convergence" was right).

You should deffo do some smaller fun videos - it sounds like you need a palate clenser! Only working on the epic long things can be draining...

It’s also strange, if they’re not disseminating the story to the actors so they’re all solid on what’s going on (and not perpetually surprised guests are asking?) that they apparently don’t provide improv training, or hire for it. Maybe just cause I went to an improv-heavy college, but it seems to me like a very obvious first step to give at least a few days of training in yes-anding and other fundamentals. I’ve seen teens grasp how not to kill the scene pretty quickly, and these character interactions seem to always be exactly what not to do. Maybe they get penalized if when talking to guests, they establish some lore that the writers didn’t expect? But that leaves them in a no-man’s land of not having anything prepared and also not being able to make anything up.

The convergence wasn’t a scam! They just marketed a scam to their loyal following for a flat fee

i wasn't expecting the sanderson crossover, that would be a cute idea

They definitely changed stuff because of your video. I went there a couple months ago and noticed there was some kind of scent being pumped into the tavern. It made me think of how you said it stank in there before lol. Also, since you mentioned Six Flags and Knott's, did you hear those companies are merging? I wonder if it'll be good or bad for them.

If you're reading this, hi Bob!

It’s wild how much Evermore storytelling is “telling, not showing” when it’s LITERALLY a show

I thought that the clip of the person asking for a quest and about guilds and getting completely shut down was from an early season when the park was new and they hadn’t quite figured it out yet. How was that was years after opening???

i 100% believe he tried to fake it til he made it with investors. that is exactly how tech companies do it

I didn't vote for this but I love all jenny videos so I'm still happy to get this one

Wow the Q&A part was a ride!

Would love a FNAF video!!

please please PLEASE do the FNAF video, I LOVE your super long and high effort videos but I really do miss the old laid back spirit of the channel as well. I also think it would be a good idea to have a shorter and less intense video in between Evermore and the cruise video.

"judge atkinson" omg that's almost the same name as the dad in Troll. collab of the century????

I had to step away for a few seconds and forgot to pause and when I got back thought that convoluted skull story was somehow the new backstory for the haunted doll, adding a whole extra level of confusion to it.

The magiquest callout is amazing. Went there as a kid every year I could in Myrtle Beach, and I'd go as an adult if it existed and was aged up a bit. Evermore seems like the perfect skeleton for it.

We would love more of your casual movie reviews, and I dont know anything about fnaf, so having you describe it will surely feel like a fever dream

omg i would so love to hear your thoughts on fnaf

A FNAF video would be awesome!! I also think if you haven't seen Willy's Wonderland (the Nicholas Cage FNAF rip off), you would get a kick out of it. In my opinion, it's way more fun than the real FNAF movie, and goofy in a good way.

Yikes, that fireside chat is the stuff of nightmares. I don't know if it's because the set and video quality makes it look like a witness deposition, but I'm like half of a mind to suspect that the park closing/firing the actors could be a direct result of it coming to light. I'm not a lawyer, but looking at it from a layman's perspective, the statements therein would expose serious legal liabilities and threat of lawsuits. Where before it could be regarded as rumor, now here is an employee (a spokesperson, even!) of the park stating directly, on video, that it has and is taking place. Am I reading too much into it? It seems like a big deal.

I would be so down for a classic Jenny style FNAF video. I went to see the movie and my boyfriend didn’t, and I just could not articulate the like nonsensical exposition and weird moments well. I feel like hearing it all second hand in a similar fashion to the fantastic beasts video would be so perfect.

Ah yes. Kanye. I remember getting a heads up about that and to act normal, then driving to the studio (when they still had it) in order to get into costume, seeing black SUV(s?) and being approached while still in my car, being told to keep my phone in my pocket, all of that. And I was like neat... anyways I just want to get into costume and start my shift. Also the magic campfire thing was from a different outfit, and they used the Evermore space to demo it to people for maybe one night? One person went around with an earpiece and chatted with guests waiting in line, and what information she gleaned from the next in the queue would be passed onto the one voicing the fire, so he could weave that into his presentation as a sort of clairvoyance. https://www.infinitekingdoms.com/magiccampfire

plz Jenny drop the Star Wars hotel video I can’t take it lol

I would love to hear your FNAF hot takes haha. I always love your movie videos!! P.s. hi Bob!!

When I watched the evermore video I assumed the livestreamer was one of your friends and I was impressed how quickly she defined "guild" lol I feel like that would have been a "name a woman" moment for me.

hi bob!!!

That MagiQuest section was so nostalgic for me to watch because I LOVED that game the couple of times I went to Great Wolf Lodge as a kid :') Also Evermore has so many problems, thank you for continuing to make videos about it! Such a horribly-managed park and I feel so bad for the actors

The Jenny Patreon comment section is the only social media platform I still like

I'll be happy if they close only because then I know that Wen Weaver will finally be free from Kierstin playing with her like her favorite broken toy in her toybox #teamweaver

The Beldam is the villain from Coraline. The story sounds like a rip off of the movie

If I can see anyone walk me through the convoluted, nonsensical mythology of FNAF, I think it would have to be you.

as an east tennessean i've always wondered what magiquest even is because no one who lives near pigeon forge like i do is willing to stop anywhere over there but the national park, so the magiquest clips were an unexpected little treat for me lol

That doesn’t look like Kanye, I agree with you

Does anyone know if they still have the aerial performances? As a professional aerialist myself I am so curious about how that came about and if they treat them well

Im SO excited!!!! Yippieee! Jenny youre the best content creator!

OOOH Jenny a FNAF video would be such a treat! I’ve been relentlessly haunted by the absurdity of the lady cop character since I saw the movie, please help me exorcise her from my brain!!

honestly as much as I appreciate the transparency and honesty from the manager who did this live Q&A, it seems like she created excellent grounds for a lawsuit by employees! it's like a tacit confession that management is aware that the park is a breeding ground for the physical assault of employees!

I do think that you should take a bit of a break when it comes to the Starcruiser video if you feel burnt out on it. Like, if you do a casual FNAF video, maybe it'll help raise your spirits just to get something finished? (And so sorry to hear that you were feeling sick at the end of this!)

I was unhappy about Evermore winning initially because I thought that there wouldn't be enough to actually SAY about Evermore, but I'm very satisfied with this, because there WAS!

I think the best way of having an info person who is going to be lackadaisical and holding a fan is by having them laying on a chaise longue and starting up conversation with people approaching, like a socialite, but one who shares useful info to guests. Hell, you can even characterize it like they take pride in all the things they know about Evermore and the worlds. Though, of course, this is assuming that the actor knows what is happening in the park around them, while it feels like Evermore is giving basically no instruction to anyone.

FNAF is so on-brand you gotta do a quick video

Hiiii yes, please I love your movie videos, I think the FNAF franchise is one of the most fun to comment/critic/review etc, due to the amount of craziness and fun nonsense surrounding it

I would love a five nights at freddys video so so much. I was hoping you would do one. I'm a having the most rotten day ever. My dog (not one in my pic) is getting a cancer mass removed. I'm scared. It helped having this long video to listen to.

screaming (laughing) at Witch Beldam’s Spooky Skull Exchange

I'm feeling kind of dizzy and tired today, but this video has majorly cheered me up.

In regards to the safety issue, I'm surprised there isn't any major disclaimer when purchasing tickets or a code of conduct for guests to sign. I know Sleep No More had this issue and when I went last year, there were quite a few disclaimers that you would be removed immediately if you broke the agreement you signed. (Plus they have designated staff in every room who are not actors to watch guests.) If it's regular guests behaving this way (as the manager is implying), it seems like that would be a huge step in prevention if the consequence was "You will be removed and never allowed back."

Justice for the skull witch beldam lady

Obsessed with the reading of that ebook... I love that they do the classic My Immortal move of never being able to just use "said" as a dialog tag, everyone has to "interject" or "ejaculate" or whatever.

hi jenny! i know it's pretty unlikely that you'll respond to this, as it's not super related to the video, but hearing you talk about your experiences working at disney (as someone who would like to work in the park in a similar capacity someday), i was just curious what your journey was like in getting into the company? i know a lot of people my age use the DCP as a springboard into working at the company, but is that the only real entry-level way to become a cast member at this point? love your videos; they're always a surefire way to cheer up my day!

FNAF holiday video titled “On the Fifth Night at Freddy’s, My True Love Gave to Me”

I'd be interested in a FNAF video!

wait is... is the ghost story a reference to coraline? they call the monster "the Beldam" which is lifted from coraline, who replaces eyes (skulls) with buttons (skulls) and she also strikes a deal when she has the upper hand... except it makes sense in the story. wild thing to lift from and the name makes it especially obvious lmao

hearing your perspective on fnaf would be cool, would be fun to watch!

I would love to see a Five Nights at Freddy's video. I think it can be very funny and attract many views.

I know nothing about FNAF, but I also haven’t seen most of the movies you talked about in your older format, and I still love and regularly rewatch those videos. Suffice to say I would love if you did something with FNAF and I would watch it probably a dozen times minimum

The Q&A was so bizarre. It's also weird that the woman in that seemed to be blaming the guests so much as if the company shouldn't have safeguards in place to stop these incidents from being so common in the first place. Like, I'm not removing the blame from said abusive guests, but the sheer volume of harassment suggests that there's something wrong at the core of the business, because it's unlikely that it just happens to be that Evermore is really attractive to sexual predators.

your take on fnaf would be awesome

I feel like *I* have better PR skills than the lady in the Q&A. I have zero training, but I know not to say something that's basically "maybe the alleged abuses against employees is just them being offended by our tone and they have to deal with it because that's the real world".

Jenny, and anyone else looking for a good time, should really check out the Wisconsin Dells (the self-proclaimed waterpark capital of the world) and WIZARD QUEST!!! I think Jenny would absolutely love it based on her review of Magic Quest. Wizard Quest is a different experience and, according to their site, "created for adults, with children in mind." There are riddles, hidden entrances, and many 3D characters. It's so interactive and fun (assuming it hasn't changed much since I last went some years ago)! Going to Wizard Quest is one of my all-time happiest childhood memories. https://www.wizardquest.com/

If you do a video of lagoon in utah it would be worth looking into their collection of animals. It’s the worlds saddest zoo. Lagoon also has a waterpark.

I went the Evermore website (because of course I did) but they have announced the winter season too. Bets on whether they actually open or whether they just take people's money for tickets and then close anyway?

Nice! I knew this ramble was late and figured you were editing it, didnt expect it to be this massive though! Also yay for more evermore, essentially a part 3 at this point

Who in their right mind trusts the influencers who went week one to starcruiser 😭😭

I fear the chaos has begun to spread beyond the Realm of Doors & Portals to our own world.

ok, this video was extremely entertaining, from possibly kanye to the nonsense talking skull story, to the absolutely unhinged q&a stream, to the reveal that bob has been lurking on the patreon (and then commenting on this thread)... i hadn't laughed this much in a while, thanks Jenny! also it's a huge yes from me on the FNAF video, but also literally any content from you. i'll watch you talk about literally anything.

I'm not even 5 minutes in and Mr. Brett Schneider's perpetual victimhood is killing me.

He is among us...

I will never get tired of Evermore content.

Jenny, regarding your speculation about whether Ken was bluffing to try to get investors, that was definitely the impression I got reading between the lines on your first video. When they were comparing themselves (favorably) to Disney in their early marketing spiels, I actually paused your video the first time I watched it and googled how much it would have cost to build a Disney-quality ride at the time they were building Evermore (170 million for one ride, if I remember right). I'm pretty sure a single ride would have been too much for him, and there's no way he could have afforded a whole park built to that level of quality. Which means either they didn't do 30 seconds of research, or everything they said in the early days was a lie. So it really seemed like they were putting on a big show for investors. I got the impression that it was only later, after that failed, that they changed their tune to bragging that not having investors was a good thing. But by that point, the writing was already on the wall that the park was never going to see significant improvements over the state it was in. (I'm posting this just after watching that section of this video, so it's possible you discuss it more later.)

It’s so surreal knowing that bob is among us. He and Jenny are like in orbit, keeping tabs on evermore and each other in their own ways ….idk it’s really wild and was surreal to see in this video

also, if it's not too much to ask, would you be able to add a cw/time stamps for suicide?

I would love a FNAF video, I genuinely think your real life knowledge of animatronics and themed environments would give you a fascinating perspective on the movie/franchise

hi bob

1:59:40 oh my god. Maxwell’s theme coming in is transcendent. This is like end of act one of les mis

yes!! i would love a fnaf vid

That looks like it could be Kanye to me, but I just can't imagine Kanye walking around with zero entourage? Wouldn't he at the very least have a bodyguard with him?

so is this the part where we say "hi bob! hope you enjoy jenny's non-evermore videos!" because. what a twist.

Why is there a character who is named after an actual famous Italian math wizard.

i don’t know how evermore continues to shock me but that “fireside chat” has my jaw on the ground

lol definitely not tired of evermore content. ill take anything you want to talk about. not complaining about the democratic process of this patreon, but my personal, least favorite topics are like “make up something from this prompt” meme type things. i love hearing your opinions and analysis so when its just for the memes im not super invested.

FNF video would be good

The interview is astonishing honestly.

I would go feral for a Jenny FNAF video 👀

The part where she said that they do their own internal investigations into fan harassment of their actors was really hard to hear. Untrained general employees keeping a blacklist does not constitute an official response by the park, and should be considered a liability NIGHTMARE on multiple fronts. I’m glad that she, as an individual, seems to be taking the problems seriously, but she’s still looking at it from the perspective of a boots-on-the-ground employee, not management: “how can we minimize the harm when these incidents happen” rather than “why are these incidents happening and how can we ensure the safety of our staff”. I hope her upset over these incidents is taken seriously by the next generation of management once she is forced out, but I suspect she’ll just be treated as a malcontent, precisely the way she dismissed her predecessors.

Evermore should be applauded for having a representative with no media training. In what wonderful world would we live if all companies did that... Having PR reps after allegations say stuff like:"Sorry to say this bro but sucks to be you." People would burn down company headquarters on a daily basis.

"And all of its walls and stuff" is also what I look for in a building

I'm declaring it now: I'll never get tired of Evermore content. And that's a goddamn promise.

My tinfoil hat theory is that Bretschneider hired a professional Kanye West impersonator to walk around town with him and make it look like Kanye might invest in the park, as a way of attracting REAL investors who might want to get in on whatever Kanye is doing. It would explain why so many people are saying those are photos of Kanye even thought it doesn't really look like him, since celebrity impersonators never really look much like the people they impersonate, and it sounds like exactly the kind of dumb idea Ken Bretschneider would come up with. Also, I would be excited for a Five Nights at Freddy's video, since I have no intention of ever watching the movie, but I still want to be entertained.

I have personally never really interacted with FNAF but I feel like a video on it would ABSOLUTELY fit in with your canon of Creepypasta/ 2010s Internet Horror videos and I'd be excited to see it!

Yes please, FNAF video.

This video was amazing! I love your spider's costume!

Hope you feel better soon Jenny!

Jenny, have you heard of Phantom Peak? It sounds kind of like a British Evermore with a Steampunk Western aesthetic

BRAVO, Jenny. Bravo.

I can't describe how much I love the evermore trilogy

Also… a FNaF video sounds amazing!!

I am pro-fnaf video

FNAF vid would be fun! I’m so invested in the insanity of the FNAF lore/fandom from, like, an anthropological standpoint, despite having never played any of the games. I saw your tweets about it and I feel like a video from the perspective of someone who only has the movie for context would be a good foil to all the super-dedicated fans just enumerating every reference and Easter egg.

He’s among us!!! But where???? Where??? This was a fantastic video. We patreons sure are well fed!

Noooo no fnaf

Skoolls

I would love FNAF video. Super random but I saw it on Halloween and to my surprise I was sitting next to Mike from Stranger Things all his friends lol. Movie was just alright but sitting next to a famous person made the experience really memorable.

I think a casual video would be fun and maybe from the creator perspective a nice break from working on longer content. I don't know anything about FNAF but then again, a year ago I knew nothing about Evermore, and now I've watched like 8+ hours of your videos on it, so that's hardly a problem.

I’m so happy Jenny got to go to the free standing magi quest. I went to the one in myrtle beach every year in the 00s. I still have a magi quest rune hanging from my review mirror. When I first saw the og evermore video my first thought was why they didn’t just do a beefed up magi quest for an older audience. I would have loved to see that park :(