Ramble #100: Unreasonably dark and disturbing scenes in children's and YA media
Happy February! I'm always glad to leave the shortest month behind me.
I posted a preview of the new main channel video for the eligible tiers a couple weeks ago. That video will be out in March!
After that, since it's a non-theme-park video, I might indulge in one of the theme park topics in my queue. (Or, I do have a similar video, the furry-related one, in the works. But I worry they're too similar to do back to back unless the new video is especially well-received.)
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What’s that amazing stego plushie at the front? The red one
I'm so late to this: Pooh's Grand Adventure fucked me up as a kiddo. I also remember being devastated and crying for an unreasonable amount of time after Ash left in Pikachu
Depending on the time and place, it was a fairly common practice for native american groups to adopt captured people into their communities, depending on the exact circumstances. The Haudensaunee (Iroquois) are the most obvious example of this practice. As for trade, the most common type of exchange between Native American groups and Euro-American settlers during the 17th and 18th centuries involved Native groups buying guns, metal tools, and luxury products in exchange for deer or beaver hides.
Check out the McDonald's McDLT commercial with George Costanza singing his heart out.
Does anyone remember this cartoon episode about a small pine tree that was cut down and put in a house to be decorated as a Christmas tree, then he was put into the attic and his leaves/needles all fell out and one day the owner dragged him out and he thought he was being decorated again but they just burned him and he became a cloud in the sky? I'm pretty sure I've only seen it once in my life but I never forgot it because it haunts me.
Pooh’s Grand Adventure is one of my all time favourites, the song “Wherever you Are” is a classic and it’s where the “you’re braver than you believe” quote comes from. It is sad and bleak but also beautifully animated.
The Goosebumps choose your own adventure book is Ship of Ghouls, Jenny and Bailey read it together for Bailey’s Goosedrunks series! Extremely entertaining, highly recommend a watch
if i was making this video i would've 100% put the woman from chicken run getting boiled upside down in gravy at the end because that was so terrifying to me as a child, i know it shows her surviving but i was always keenly aware as a kid that it wasn't actually survivable and i'd scare myself thinking about the real life consequences of an accident like that.
I also watched the terrifying Pooh movie so you’re not alone
Wait, I watched The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and Pooh's Grand Adventure, and was obsessed with both! The tone of the movie was astoundingly dark for the source material, but I was all in. I wanted to see Pooh on all the big adventures
Someone may have already mentioned this, but the Dear America synopsis sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Oatman
I LOVED Pooh’s Grand Adventure. I completely wore that VHS out. To me, it was a very Grown Up movie with Themes™️ and I loved it very much. It was scary to me, but I felt very cool that I could handle it
I have met no one irl who remembers or watched Fly Away Home! Literally don't remember anything except for the egg incubator in the shelf with the silk scarves, the dad's crazy shower, and the main character waking up in the hospital asking about her mom 😭
That episode of dinosaurs spooked me so bad as a kid I eventually convinced myself the show didn't really exist and it had only happened in my nightmares. Was a strange reckoning for me the first time the show came up in conversation.
I'm glad that someone else remembers The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh theme song.
You awoke my memory of that Winnie the Pooh theme song like I was a sleeper agent
can jenny just do a video reading serendipity books to us that would be very relaxing
When I watched The Good Dinosaur, I was high and had been hating on the animation style which was like photorealistic landscape and water with these weird pixar bubbly dinosaurs, eventually I called out the upcoming father death when they were just walking along and made myself laugh, and then the flood came and I reacted sincerely and cried and because I did both of these at once, I entered this ridiculous cycle of crying and laughing at it then laughing until I cried and I did this for literally the rest of the movie. This is something that has happened to me since, sometimes sober, but i found out from The Good Dinosaur
Just now realizing people say "Ink" differently across the coast because that's how we say it in my state LOL
I GOT DISNEY+ JUST SO I COULD WATCH The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh!...but when it first came out it wasn't on there! But it is now! I think the Wheelers are less disturbing than the fact that Dorothy was SECONDS AWAY from receiving Edwardian Electroconvulsive Therapy!
Oh man, I'm definitely in the same boat of having the sensory memory of the Fly Away Home intro burned into my brain and being a little bit scared every time I'm in a car with really heavy rain. I've never heard of Serendipity before today, and I have mixed feelings about the Feather Fin thing. On the one hand, yeah, how horribly tragic, that he's dreaming of a bigger, brighter world and can't have it, but also - that's kind of also how the world is? I don't have kids of my own, but I work with them, and I think there's something to be said for the story presenting something genuinely enticing and beautiful, that's being missed out on for the sake of safety. In the net example it feels a little too obvious that that's an inherently dangerous thing, and I feel like a kid might not want to apply that to their own life because they don't experience it as beautiful in the same way. But like genuinely, kids find a lot of things tempting that are super dangerous, and I think conveying that the surface world is cool and has to be given up anyway, for now, is not inherently a crazy bad moral. It's genuinely tragic that Feather Fin doesn't get to see it, but it's also genuinely tragic that American car infrastructure is like that and kids have to learn that the street is dangerous and they can't just run out in it. For that matter it's genuinely tragic that like, I as an adult can't experience the joy of playing with molten glass with my bare hands, for example! I imagine the texture would feel really nice and that I would be able to make incredibly cool art with it—it's a tragedy that people can be hurt, ever, at all. Of course, I trust your description of the book and that it, uh, doesn't really explore that space and is more about the joy of safety and conformity, but I guess you did succeed at making me feel pretty melancholy about this 😅. And in real life, yeah, we as a society can sometimes write our own sequels, where even if we can't personally go to space / the deep ocean / etc, some people get to, and we can see pictures of them and stuff. To me the ideal moral here is that you should be really careful of things until you understand how to make them safe, and that you can grow up and learn more skills and try to become the sort of being who can go experience the cool thing, and that this is admirable. (This is my first comment as a new patron, but I've been binging much of the archive over the past few days and really enjoying it! Very good use of my money and I'm glad I did this; keep up the good work!)
I am so late to this, but I want to say I LOVED both the Winnie the Pooh show and this specific movie. That song Pooh sings about missing Christopher Robin made me weep. It still does tbh
Also, in the boy equivalent of Dear America they did have a Donner Party one. I still have it somewhere
Holy shit the Winnie the Pooh theme song literally gets stuck in my brain periodically to this day, I'm so glad someone else also thinks it's an earworm lol.
Also I LOVED the Winnie the Pooh movie as a kid, that section also scared me! And the part where they go through the thistles and almost falling off a cliff was also stressful for me lol.
I HAD THAT WINNIE THE POOH SHOW ON VHS! i watched it allll the time and also remember the entire song, i think i sing it at least once a week (in dutch tho)
and i also was OBSESSED with pooh's grand adventure. i watched it allll the time on vcr as a kid, and i've watched it several times since on dvd. idk if you're still interested (or if anyone else already commented it), when christopher robin tried to tell pooh he was going to school, pooh had already fallen asleep, so he left him a jar of honey with a note. however, that silly little bear got honey all over the note, so they couldn't read it properly. that's why they thought christopher robin was going to the skull. i kinda want to talk about this movie all the time, so thank you for giving me an opening (:
Hearing that New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh theme unlocked something in my mind. I hadn't thought about it in two decades and yet I remember every line
Everytime I ask anyone about this, they never remember, but there was some Peanuts episode and there was a chateaux or something in France and the art style and mood were so disturbing to me. I don't like Peanuts anyway but that one stood out.
It’s not the part in the Great Pumpkin where Snoopy is imagining he’s sneaking thru WWI-era France, is it?
I loved that Winnie the Pooh movie, the scene where he's stuck in the ice stuck with me for years.
as a child i had SUCH a deep seated fear of being turned into something against my will thanks to the fooglies (and also the little boy who turned into a monkey in jumanji)
Feeling awesome cuz I always hated that Dinosaurs puppet series. And my sister had a weird crush with the teen boy dinosaur 😬.
I feel so vindicated by your analysis of the Fooglies, I hated them growing up!!
I didn't watch pooh's grand adventure but I also loved that tv series and remember my parents renting the tigger movie and only being able to watch it once because it made me cry so hard I almost made myself sick
That one was so sad!! It made me deeply uncomfortable as a small child
I’m ngl, that Hans Christian Andersen anecdote sounds a lot like religious OCD. Very sad.
"FLOOP IS A MADMAN, HELP US SAVE US" is forever seared into my brain from my childhood
Omg Tara mention 😭
Yessss Dinotopia mention!!!
i got all the spy kids vhs tapes for free bc my aunt is robert rodriquez's sister, and i thought spy kids one was absolutely terrifying, i don't think i even watched it in full until i was much older. loved 2 tho
The second you mentioned Pooh, that theme song started playing in my head!
I dimly remember watching Chicken Run as a kid and had only a vague impression that it was kind of grimy and unpleasant. Went back and watched that scene and oh my god. They're in a concentration camp. The chicken coop is a concentration camp.
And Mel Gibson is in it..
Oh I definitely want to see your furry-related topical video. That's going to be fun I'm sure lmao.
i absolutely despised pooh's grand adventure for the exact same reason...it was so bleak and scary and i was genuinely sooo full of dread for christopher robin the first time watching it. yes, i watched it multiple times because inexplicably my little siblings liked the movie... i also HATED owl for pretending to know what the fuck he was talking about when he's a stupid idiot (he's the one who misinterpreted school as skull). (i hate characters who are arrogant idiots, lol.)
That’s wild I am Texan and would have never noticed anything odd about the “ink” or Ariana grande’s “pink” because we also say it that way and I have never even noticed that there was a difference
Floridian here, and same
The dinosaurs slowly dying from dehydration at the end of the dino segment in Fantasia (1940 version)
wait?? was the tigger movie a commercial flop??
OH MY GOD JENNY AND EVERYONE ELSE 12:14 THE TRAGIC PIKACHU ABANDONMENT EPISODE IS THE SAME PLOT AS NEW MOON BELLA GETS LEFT IN A FOREST BECAUSE EDWARD'S BEING A SAVIOUR AND NOT CONSULTING HER LIKE ASH DOES WITH PIKACHU
Sorry for yelling, for me this is a ridiculous revelation to have, had to share
11:11 it's a colony of Pikachus I think <3 and yes I have been saying how that episode is tragically sad my whole life, saddest pokemon episodes in order off the top of my head are 1. pikachu goes back to the wild pikachu colony 2. Charmander 3. the one with the ghastly dead cliff girl ghost legend 4. Sabrina (I think is her name)
eenk sounds the the great lakes vowel shift to me. i live in albany, ny—our accent is like 1/3 nyc, 1/3 new england, and 1/3 midwest… we’re a very liminal metro area lol.
Wait am I losing my fucking mind or is the dark part about Terra is that she got fucking GROOMED BY SLADE, not just her forgotten identity ending. Like the getting groomed by a pedophile supervillain part is way worse than anything else about that story arc.
Oh no, I have too much to say! Serendipity forever! I still have mine! I think I repressed that feather fin memory, too, cus I didn't remember the story at all until you brought up that scene. New Adventures of Winny the Pooh was one of my favorite shows but I never saw the movie, I remember the premise though through commercials! I was really disturbed by a few episodes of my other favorite show, the Magic School Bus, the episodes where they 'get laid' by a chicken was so uncomfortable I wanted to die, especially when they were alluding to sperm. Equally I didn't like the fish episode where they were baby fish for a similar reason, and of course the first ep with Arnold on Pluto taking his helmet off, but I see more people bring that one up. XD We're Back was a great pick, too! Honestly such a weird flick but I loved it even though I was terrified. When I grew up I went to art school and found out one of my professors worked on the backgrounds for professor screw eyes, I was so stoked. I loved stuff that scared me and still do, even when it gave me nightmares. I'm all for theme park stuff, but any type of media stuff is cool too. I love the way you explain things, it makes everything more interesting and if I didn't appreciate something before, I do now!
“floop is a madman help us save us” has stayed in my head since I was six years old
"The fun never ends for us, he's so adventurous, at least every now and agaaaaain-" I do love that Pooh series' theme.
Flies are weak fliers. You can use the vacuum’s corner attachment to vacuum them up.
how have i never in my life considered this !
I feel so seen, I was also scarred by that dear America story in particular as a kid
First the Rainbow Fish and now Featherfin...what is it with children's books about fish having extremely depressing morals???
I remember being obsessed with the fooglies designs as a kid. I even wished it was a real show. Just ya know, without the fact they were actually humans being tortured and warped.
Im very happy to tell you that I remeber The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh; I loved that show so much as a kid and I had a few episodes on VHS that I could watch (I had a box of pre-approved vhs movies when I was little that I could just watch whenever I wanted); and the one I remember the most is when they throw a play and its a western, and theres this horse thats the villain, and he tries to intimidate Sheriff Pooh and is like "whatcha got for brains in there, bear?" And poops just like deadass "Stuffing"; i thought it was hilarious and it lives rent free in my brain. I watched a few episodes a couple years ago and I love that the show 💯 runs on kids playtime logic. Also, 💯💯 agree, the theme songs is an absolute banger
oh my godd not only did I obsessively watch the vhs's of this show but that episode was one that my neighbor (who i would go to watch these) didn't have! i specifically remember trying to watch them all to find it, i saw clips in the opening theme and i wanted to see it so bad!! I thought, it has to be real, it can't just be a random clip since all the other ones are from actual episodes.
I live in Vegas and there is a scary circus experience that comes annually called Cirque Italia paranormal! It is very fun very strange!
Oh my god I had totally forgotten about that Winnie The Pooh theme song but as soon as it started I remembered every word....
For the record I am a big fan of the theme park content. It's my favorite stuff. I like that your take on theme parks isn't just blogs or just reviews. I like that there's some analysis. I think you're really smart and being at home with my new baby has been hard, but your videos have been a treat.
i'm always excited for your theme park videos!!
im from florida and i say eenk! ive never even noticed!
The new Mario movie is actually pretty good imo
I remember the Winnie the Pooh tv show scaring me as a child, too, particularly the episode where Gopher builds a rickety tower into the heavens to either make it start or stop raining. I can’t even remember why it scared me.
I know I’m late to the party, but I vividly remember the Winnie the Pooh movie! If I recall correctly, the reason everyone thinks Christopher Robin went to “Skull” is because of Owl. There was this running bit in the Pooh-niverse where Owl needs to always be seen as smarter than he is, and therefore has to be able to answer any question the gang has for him. But he doesn’t always have the answers, so he makes things up. A lot. Pooh is worried about Christopher Robin, so Owl preyed on that fear to say in fact yes, Robin is in danger, he’s in Skull. And he makes them a map with all the scary locations they’ll have to go to, and sends them on a quest. I remember really liking the movie as a kid, it was scary, so it was like I got practice being brave in a safe environment where at the end the big twist (spoilers for a 30 year old movie btw) is that there were no stakes the entire time.
I like your Serenity plush!
Secret of Nimh had a lot of fairly disturbing bits, but the end portion got to me as her family is trapped in a house sinking into mud.
I wish I remembered the article I read on this, but I know there's been a lot of writing on the Dear America books' consistent pattern of anti-Native racism. I think there was a particular book where the main character is a Lakota girl at a residential school and her brother (?) participates in the Ghost Dance movement and the entire thing is completely unconscionable levels of poorly researched and misconceived. Classic 90s kidlit moment
Also in Changes For Kirsten (AG book), there is an illustration of an elderly dead man named Old Jack who froze to death in a cave and Kirsten and Lars have to stay near him for warmth. Addy's books are also horrifying by nature of being depictions of slavery. They're really really fucked up, but that's understandable given the subject matter. The scene that scared me the most EVER from ANYTHING as a kid was the forest fire scene from Phantasia. Close runner up is the one where the baby whale gets separated from its mom and ends up trapped in an ice cave. My separation anxiety from my parents coupled with a healthy amount of claustrophobia made that scene nauseating. We watched it in music class as one does and I cried
There were a few dark scenes in the American Girl book series, like the one where the girl dies of dysentery on the Oregon Trail, but the most fucked up one was definitely the one in Nellie's book where they're working a child labor factory in the 1900s and a girl's hair gets caught in the spinning machine. They can't get it loose in time and the machine literally scalps her in front of all the other kids and adults. I didn't even read it but my best friend was in a different class where they read it and he told me about it. I couldn't sleep for like a week after hearing that 😭😭😭
The Samantha movie made little me afraid of sewing machines for a while bc of the scene where Samantha visits a factory while looking for her old friend and one of the child laborers sews over his finger on one of those old, unsafe machines 😥
Just joined so excited to binge
Thank you SO MUCH for putting to words why I couldn’t sleep at night after watching Spy Kids. Still one of the scariest movies ever to me. (All love to Spy Kids 2 and 3 tho)
Thank you for mentioning Worthless! It's such a bop, but it's legit these cars just accepting their death 😅😅
Watching the Good Dinosaur, my friend and I were like, these shots are so familiar, what’s so similar about these cinematic shots? And this plot? OH MY GOD THE GOOD DINOSAUR IS THE REVENANT FOR KIDS.
The walrus / oyster scene in the Alice in Wonderland movie made me SO sad. The oysters looked like little babies
The horror at camp jellyjam is in fact the most disturbing goosebumps book I have read so far, it’s just really gross and horrific. It has meat canyon energy.
welp i guess i'm weird for somewhat regularly encouraging myself to get out of bed in the morning by singing "I gotta get up, I've gotta get goin'"
i will never forget my first time reading a "choose your own fear" goosebumps. i ended up getting an ending where i was lifted up into a grinder and chopped into pieces. i was so upset that i didn't bother trying to read the book again, because in my head i reasoned that it had already "ended."
There are so many dark moments of Dear America books, I ate those books up as a kid. It’s junior true crime almost
The only one I have read is “with the might of angels” and it was super intense. I’m excited to read more of them, historical fiction like that for kids has got to make a comeback…
Thank God you’re wearing your plush Yoshi hat; I wouldn’t have been able to pay attention otherwise.
you triggered a core memory with the pooh bear show omfg. i remember that theme song VIVIDLY!
The ongoing hat joke is sending me
The Spy Kids one resonates so hard with me that I literally shuddered the moment you SAID Spy Kids, lol. Also, damn, Thumbelina. To my memory every major, non-child male character she encounters is sexualizing her except her vaguely gay-best-friend-coded sparrow buddy, while every major female character AND sparrow buddy has a major male character they're rooting for so they're all like "lock that down, girl!" and like damn this poor woman is a tiny domestic mammal trapped outdoors in winter she has more important stuff to worry about than getting a boyfriend rn guys.
Holy moly, I had totally forgotten about Pooh's great adventure, I remember regularly just watching the first half as a kid because the second half of the film feels so different from normal Winnie the Pooh stuff.
I did see Pooh's Great Adventure. I really liked it though. But it is really desolate - I know there is one scene where Pooh is in a big cavern he can't get out of, all by himself because he was seperated from the others and is calling out (I think) and no one answers.
1. Megatron death in transformers the movie devastated me, and the scene where ultron drops the other robots into acid traumatized me. 2. Brave little toaster where the wall fan blows up scared me for weeks. 3. Who framed Roger rabbit with the Dip scared me so bad I also refused to go on the ride at Disneyland because they had a dip part.
I do think character deaths just generally can be quite disturbing to kids if they're small enough, especially when they're played out dramatically. My oldest brother went to see the lion king with my mom when he was 5 and he cried so hard at mufasa's death they had to leave the theater, it's one story my mom retells quite a lot because it was so impactful to him, and I'm sure that's hardly an original experience...
I don't know if anyone ever watched "Who Framed Rodger Rabbit" , but it was 1 of the 2 kid films my Gran had on VHS when I was a kid. The climatic end with the bad guys 'true identity' reveal,the fight scene, and his death in this acid bath was unspeakably scary as a kid. Not gruesome, but psychologically it was quite a lot. I thought for a long time that my Gran had mistaken this movie for kids media (there were some adult jokes and the overall plot was quite mature), to come across the documentary on making it a couple of years ago, to find out IT WAS MADE FOR CHILDREN. The lead actor said while being interviewed at its release something to the point of "I'm so proud to be staring in a film that is made for kids, so I can take my children and watch it with them". The combination of live film and animation was genuinely revolutionary for the time, but damn, that death scene was horrible.
I'm sure someone's already said this, but I think the traumatizing part of Mufasa's death was the fact that Simba has to confront his dead, limp corpse. For a kid, it's not super unusual for parental/mentor figures to die in stories, but the realism of poking the body of your parent and pleading with them to wake up hits different.
I love the theme song of New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh! My sister and I would wake up before school and we also know all the words to the theme song lol
The first time you switched up your attribution of your plush hat I swear I went back to the first few minutes of the video to see what you had said at first because I thought I was losing my mind. I was so confused. The second time you switched it up I finally got the running joke and I was like JENNY.
I love this Beast Boy hat
my favourite part of this was the psychoanalysis of Hans Christian Andersen
“You were still a good boy, Hans, it’s not that deep” 😂
I loved the Serendipity books, but I never read Featherfin, and it seems even wilder to me that it ended that way after considering Serendipity, who like... gets to turn over an oil tanker and be completely awesome.
Spy Kids definitely scarred me as a kid...
Wait is this the new main channel video?
I DID watch the Pooh movie (which made a horrifying impression on me) and We're Back (which my brother and I adored). I love this style of video because it always brings back deep childhood memories lol!
Dude, the way you described how you loved teen titans reminded me so much of my sister. We both loved the show, but she totally lost it when Terra got frozen in stone. Also I had no idea that the cliffhanger where beast boy (I think) runs into her again is the last episode of the series. Wild
Jenny i need you to know that they visit The Grid in the most recent season of secret lives of mormon wives. It was like a celebrity cameo for me
...AWWWWW.....YEAAAHHH.....................IT'S THE GRIIIIDDDDDD.............
"I never hear anyone else talk about The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and I think that's very sad." GURL! You ever wanna talk New Adventures, it's one of my all-time favorite children's shows (still collect the VHS tapes)!!! The episode where Rabbit raises Kessie the bird never fails to leave me weeping. Can we talk just about how many times the characters are perilously hanging from a cliff? That's, like, 80% of the climaxes. X{D I actually loved Pooh's Grand Adventure for its humor; overall, I always thought it was very in-keeping with the values and style of the franchise. My only gripe with it was the length of the cave scene and how long the characters are separted for that sequence, 'cause they're much funnier together. The way you described Grand Adventure is actually how I felt about The Tigger Movie; I'd been excited 'cause I assumed (I don't think unreasonably) that it would be the most lighthearted fare because of its protagonist. But there is nary a moment of levity to be found. Watching Tigger be depressed for 90 minutes wasn't really my idea of fun.
I sing the theme song to show too my 7 and 8 year old daughters every morning to wake them up. It drives my 7 year old crazy but it puts me in such a good mood. Although, my love for Pooh began with the live action Disney channel show, I love this animated show so much.
To be honest all Pooh movies are incredibly devastating to me for reasons I can’t quite articulate, something about lost innocence and nostalgia, but Pooh’s grand adventure… wrecked my fucking shit. There really is no other word for it but devastating. Why did they do all that in a Pooh movie 😭 I remember feeling bamboozled and not really knowing why
The part that always gets me in the brave Little toaster is actually right at the start with the old radiator, it's singing and getting more and more upset as he starts like blowing up! Scared the shit out of me
I didn't see Teen Titans until I was an adult, and like Aimee upthread, I actually really love the finale. I took it to be a happy ending. Terra's life has been so disrupted by her powers and people taking advantage of them for so long. The idea that she's in control, and chooses not to have any part of that anymore, and gets to just live a normal life for once is really wholesome in my eyes. I was happy for her. I also appreciate how poignant the ending is as a reflection on accepting change. I honestly think part of the deal with Beast Boy and Terra is an homage to Vertigo, and I remain super impressed at an all-ages show doing an episode that's so bold and artistically daring to cap off its run.
I still have my Pooh's Grand adventure VHS! I remember liking the music, so it's probably objectively bad
I watched Pooh's Grand Adventure probably a couple dozen times as a kid and I think the misunderstanding about school vs. skull comes from the majority of the group incorrectly remembering the name when trying to recount what Christopher Robin told them to Owl, who proceeds to come up with this terrifying narrative about Skull being a torturous and desolate place that the rest of the group has to rescue CR from. I remember being very confused as to where Owl was getting this information and I'm pretty sure he just made it up for some reason. Nobody ever even questions him after the fact, like "Hey Owl you sent us on a whole quest for nothing, where did you even get all that stuff about the child torture den inside a big skull anyway?" He just kind of shares the triumph with the rest of the group even though he pointlessly put all their lives in danger.
i watched and loved pooh’s grand adventure! i remember thinking it was so emotional and scary
Hearing Dear America referenced is so wild. I was obsessed with those books. My absolute favorite (and I don’t know what this says about me) was “A Coal Miner’s Bride” and the protagonist is this 13 year old girl sent to America to marry a coal miner who has three kids. Omg. I would read it so enraptured and freaked out that a girl my age would have had to endure such a thing… it gave me shivers
Nyehhhehh a devilishly devious diatribe, my disgusting dowager
Is it a west coast thing to pronounce egg like agg? We say egg on the east coast, but I remember on an episode of American Dragon Jake long he yelled “THE AGG” and my sister and I still quote it all the time.
im from california and i don’t know anybody who pronounces egg like agg except for my mom who was raised in the midwest!
I read the Dear America and its spinoffs like candy and I remember the shirtwaist factory and the "kidnapping" one! I can't remember if the story was as wild as that clip but I know it had some weird moments. I also remember reading a gold rush one that was genuinely a great story and I'd love to revisit it and see if it's as good as I remember. The royal ones were WILD, I'm pretty sure there was a Marie Antoinette one which was pretty scandalous for a kids book. Also, choose your own adventure books (The classics) terrified me. There was one were the bad ending was getting kidnapped by aliens and marked as food, or stalked by some cryptid.
Also, I definitely thought the Dear America books were real historical sources and was so sad when all the characters/narratives were fiction. What do you mean this isn't the diary of a real girl???
As soon as you said Fly Away Home I knew exactly which bit you were gonna talk about. I haven't seen it since I was little but that scene is stored in my subconscious and still turns up in my nightmares. That and the wolves in Beauty and the Beast.
Jenny, please do a deep dive on the Gacha life, video game franchise, and who made it pleak
Quick comment before I watch: I expect the entire hour and half to be talking about ‘the return to Oz’ and even then that’s not long enough.
apparently they're selling the trees from the lost forests store online LOL https://www.puggle.com/shop/
you gotta dm her this on patreon, i feel like this is essential jenny knowledge
I sing the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh theme song all the time! "Gotta get up, gotta get going, gonna see a friend of mine..." It's lodged in my head permanently along with various Mario themes and all the Ocarina of Time songs, but no one else ever knows what I'm singing.
Thank you for speaking on Terra 💔 She deserves better.
I love your plush hat of Joanna the egg lizard from Rescuers Down Under
the winnie the pooh part brought back memories of the Heffalump Halloween Movie when they went in with the intention of showing lumpy a good whimsical halloween time and then lumpy and roo went through a horrific adventure where lumpy gets stuck in a trap for the monster they were catching while it was dark & raining and lumpy And Roo thinks they’ve been abandoned but no one can hear their screams because of the thunder. then they go trick or treating after.
I always remember an unreasonably dark episode of the many adventures of Winnie the Pooh when rabbit adopted a baby bird and the entire episode was like? A parent learning to let go of their child? It was so bleak I remember hating it as a child.
From personal experience, the small percent of children who had terminally ill parents were the ones traumatized by parental deaths in kids movies
Yeahhhh
I always thought the kids turning into donkeys in Pinocchio was scary. Warned me off any "Pleasure Island" kind of behavior for good. I remember my older sister saying Pinocchio had a stricter rating when it came out, but she said it was because of the whale. As an adult, I'm thinking it's the donkeys... Who even knows what happens to the ones like Alexander who can still talk? That or the image of Pinocchio, facedown and unconscious in a pool of water. Why put that in?
My parents would make me behave by telling me I was turning into a donkey if I acted up. It was really weird and awkward, and now I’m a furry with a donkey fursona. I wish I could add a witty remark but I have none.
If Feather Fin loves the land world so much why doesn’t he explore land things that have found their way into the water? I mean tires and mobsters and stuff like that. There’s beauty everywhere if you just take the time to look for it.
MOBSTERS 😂😂😂😂💀
I'm in my 30s and the clips from the Pikachu episode have me in tears...
I kind of love Pooh’s Grand Adventure. It is very bleak but there’s something about the reveal about them over exaggerating how scary everything is that I related to as a kid.
Not sure if mentioned or not but The Dip in who frames Roger rabbit was pretty damn scary to me as a kid, and so was Judge.. why is the scientist from back to the future so evil now?!
We didn't have many channels growing up so I watched my VHS of Poohs Grand Adventure so many times. I actually loved that movie and remember watching it a lot as a child. I agree it was unreasonably dark but I guess 4 year old me was unphased 🤷🏼♀️
My family had a VHS of Pooh’s Grand Adventure I watched fairly often as a kid. The whole cave sequence was a bit scary but I remember liking it because of that. My go-to for this kind of topic is always The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Frollo’s very explicit lust for Esmeralda (sniffing her hair creepily in the Cathedral, Hellfire).
Thank you for telling me Featherfin lived. I gasped.
Featherfin lived but he lived an empty life
The brave little toaster also had the scene where the AC unit self-destructs and blows its own fuse due to rage. And that clown dream sequence? It was the scariest movie I could handle as a child and I don't think I handled it particularly well, it has so many bangers though
Oh the clown sequence!! 😱
Third comment in a row, but I just remembered a dark moment that might be obscure enough to qualify for this list. In "Garfield: His Nine Lives", one of the segments involves a cat escaping from a lab where scientists are performing cruel experiments on him. He ultimately transforms into a dog, which sounds funny, but the transformation is handled in full-on horror movie mode, being played as if it's agonizing. The book version also contains a story where a house cat goes feral and attacks his owner, an elderly woman. People criticize Garfield for being an assembly line product and a merchandising empire, which it largely is, but Jim Davis used the franchise to Trojan horse some weird artsy-fartsy stuff from time to time. Also just remembering a VHS that I got from the library that adapted a fairy tale called Teeny Tiny and the Witch Woman. It was animated, but in that style where it just dissolves from one picture to the next, which made the already icky illustrations feel even more uncanny. Plus the sound had that warbly, overplayed-VHS quality where it almost sounds like it's speeding up or slowing down at certain points. The scene with the giant turtle that keeps sneezing on Atreyu in Neverending Story always disturbed me more than the Swamps of Sadness scene. The latter was supposed to be sad, so it just worked as intended; the turtle scene was supposed to be comic relief, yet it felt so bleak and strange. The way the turtle talked so slooowly, and Atreyu had to keep climbing back up onto the tree and restarting the conversation, taking absolutely forever to get anywhere, was like an anxiety dream.
I still have to watch The Neverending Story. And as a German, I always wanted to read the book. But the turtle scene does sound scary, I was also a very easily frightened child. Thank you for reminding me of "Garfield: His Nine Lives"! I think the lab segment reminds me of Felidae, which is also based on a German book. My dad tried to read that book for me and my sister when we were just kids but he stopped because it was too gruesome and adult.
Some of the weirdest, darkest kids' movies I watched were at our local church, lol. They showed "We're Back" at a Parents' Night Out (the scene with the crows eating the bad guy stuck with me) and somebody threw on The Dark Crystal for us kids while our parents were at some meeting. I'm glad in retrospect we weren't part of some strict church that saw the devil in everything (my GF grew up fundie and didn't get to have anything fun).
Surprising that you haven't met anybody who remembers New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. I mean, to be fair, I really only remember the theme song and couldn't tell you the plot of a single episode. But every time I have to get my butt out of bed or off the couch, I always think to myself (or sometimes sing out loud), "Gotta get up, gotta get goin'...." P.S. Why is Patreon recommending I follow a "2A lifestyle" woman who apparently posts photos of herself in a bikini wielding guns? "Because you follow Jenny Nicholson"?
Did you see the show Eureka's Castle as a child? It was one of my favorites, and I am not sure why but it gives me major nostalgia AND the creeps thinking back on it. I don't remember anything scary happening, but it was a very weeeird show and I think I always had the vibe that something COULD go scary at any moment.
I loved that show! Yes it always felt like something scary was outside the gates
OMG girl, I remember the hell out of the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and The Grand Adventure. I was a touch old for them but my brother was OBSESSED. I think we even saw Grand Adventure in theaters.
I wonder if Jenny remembers she and Bailey did a Give Yourself Goosebumps video with that cruise ship book lol. The GYG series was my whole jam as a kid, I got a big lot of them in elementary school and I still have them to this day. I would check out the newer ones (with digital-inspired cover art instead of the glittery covers) from the library at an embarrassingly old age to be reading Goosebumps, like high school age lol
I'm collecting and rereading the OG Goosebumps series as a 38-year-old man, so I'm more embarrassing than high school you.
Hi I just joined the patreon this month and have been watching some of the older videos, ive heard her mention a barbie video and a fnaf video a couple times but I cant find them on patreon or youtube. Do they still exist? Did something happen with them? Id be super interested to see them if they do still exist
They’re indefinitely put on hold, there’s a lot of videos that Jenny starts and then doesn’t end up finishing or puts on hold for one reason or another. I’m guessing the FNAF is probably shelved for good, but I’m holding out hope we’ll see the Barbie one someday! It’s been in the works for years at this point.
I love your Baby Bop hat!
It's clearly Reptar
"The Animals of Farthing Wood" traumatised me, and I think just about every other kid living in Australia and the UK in the 90's. Those cute woodland creatures couldn't catch a break.
I remember a goosebumps ending where a mummy got you to body swap with them and they run off in your body as you're trapped in a decayed corpse. The details were so visceral to me. It continues and you can shamble after your stolen body and your family learns you are in a mummy's body and your mother is just like, grieving over her 10 year old or whatever stuck in a living, rotten, adult man's body
anyway, for whatever reason I had an irrational fear of forced bodyswapping as a child
The moment you said Dinosaurs TV show I knew exactly what episode you were going to say. I know there was a message to it, but my lil brain was not prepared for the end. Poor lil creatures :C
God, I never watched help I’m a fish as a kid, but I saw the villian climax scene as an adult and it haunts me. The villain drinks a potion to turn human and turns into a horrifying half fish half man only to suddenly realize his hubris. Then you watch his lifeless drowned body silently float away.
Patsy! I thought my soul would rise and fly. I still have that here. Along with Isabell of Castilla and Cleopatra. Honestly that premise was so awesome. They had so many different ones with so many different characters. I would eat those books up, if they made them for adults nowadays.
Please check out the Dinotopia books! James Gurney's illustrations are so incredibly beautiful.
he also has a YouTube channel with so many free videos about how he paints dinosaurs for National Geographic and stuff! It's funny I just saw this comment RIGHT after closing the Youtube app where I was doing my weekly rewatch of all his videos :D
The Featherfin book feels like someone who saw The Little Mermaid and got really angry at Ariel for disobeying her father and created a book for their kids.
I absolutely LOVED the theme to The New Adventures of Winnie the Poo growing up. It would be one of the last cartoons on Saturday mornings and I would stick around to at least hear the song again. I think it's in my top 2 themes along with David The Gnome. And funny enough, I'm turned out to be a public school music teacher, so it might have been pretty influential lol
Dinosaurs always made me uncomfortable as a kid and I could never pinpoint why, other than that fleshy baby character that I didn't like. But you reminded me of that episode where those creatures get eaten! But now I remember, and I really really hated that as a kid. I recently watched the final clip from that show though on YouTube and it was pretty dark but it did heal something, so I recommend it. Haha
Unwind was a semi-popular YA series in the 2000s and contains some HARD scenes. The most devastating scene in the book is when you finally witness the “unwinding” of a child. The scene is told from the point of view of the child, and it was genuinely gut wrenching. “I’m still here.”
Childrens' books can get away with so much. I read Animorphs as a kid, which was for an older audience than Goosebumps but wasn't quite YA, and kids commit literal war crimes in that. It was done in a tasteful and character-driven way, though; sometimes I think children's media can get dark just for the sake of it, and it doesn't really say anything about our world or challenge the readers, it's just some weird adult who gets off on getting away with it.
Awesome that you mentioned Chicken Run, because on a related note, my parents had many Wallace & Gromit DVDs (as well as Chicken Run). One time I watched Night of the Were-Rabbit with my cousins in their house across the street and I was also an incredibly easily scared kid. I was SO scared of the Were-Rabbit, I remember going back to my house that night and being afraid the Were-Rabbit was going to appear and kidnap me. I also was obsessed with the Warrior Cats book series and there was a lot of brutality in those books, most notably one cat getting his belly sliced open.
I'm from Florida and went around asking all my friends and family to say Ink and I couldn't tell the difference or if I was going EENK EEENK EENK and now I'm self conscious. I doubt I will ever talk about *nk again. Unsubscribing.
That must have looked exactly like the scene in the movie
Ok so Winnie The Pooh’s Grand Adventure was the movie I watched on VHS over and over again when I was maybe about 6. I loved it but I don’t think you’re wrong about it feeling weirdly bleak haha. IIRC there’s a part where Pooh gets separated from the other animals and trapped in part of the cave and basically despairs that he’s going to be trapped there by himself forever.
I know it makes these kind of lists a lot, but the claymation Mark Twain satan scene has a really special place in my heart. My grandma found that VHS at a secondhand store when we were kids and we freaking loved that movie. It was so weird and unsettling but when you spend all summer at grandma’s house with like five VHS tapes, you learn to love it. Also YES WINNIE THE POOH!! I loved that TV show, it was one of those shows that always played late/super early on Disney Channel. I struggled a lot with sleep as a kid and spent most of my weekends watching cartoons at 4 am and The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was a consistent banger.
Adding another comment here because omg Thumbelina was another one of those five VHS tapes we had at grandma’s house. Jenny, did you grow up at my grandma’s house too??
Oh my god, the Pooh movie, that last bit where he’s in a pit, I cried forever. I didn’t think anyone else knew about that movie!
dinotopia felt like a dream only i had but a couple years ago i asked my siblings and of course they remembered it
I think about what happened to Terra maybe once a week Thank you for saying what I have always felt hahaha
The pokemon one hit harder back in the day because in the first season it was kind of a running thing that Ash and Pikachu were a little bit at odds (Pikachu refusing to get in a pokeball and generally not listening to Ash), and not long before was the episode where he let his Butterfree go forever, so it genuinely seemed kind of possible that Pikachu might actually be gone to the shows audience of 10 year olds
I don't remember watching the SpyKids movies as a kid, but I remember them filling me with a deep unease. Now I know why. I'm gonna be haunted by that one for a while.
I only read the first Dinotopia book as a kid. In the book, the characters just can't leave because there's a reef that wrecks any boat that tries to go out. It was just this mostly relaxing exploration through a beautiful, creative, peaceful world where dinosaurs and humans live together in harmony, with absolutely gorgeous illustrations. It was more fun just to imagine running around with dinosaur friends, a thing I think is honestly sorely lacking in kids media about dinosaurs for how much I remember just wanting to have a dino friend. James Gurney asked the important questions, like "what if you could slide down a friendly long neck dinosaur's neck and into the water" or "what if there was a spiky dinosaur who sold bagels and carried them on the spikes?"
oh yeah I was in a similar boat of only reading the first book, and it was a different dynamic than the show because instead of 2 kid brothers it was a kid and his dad
When I was very young, me and a friend had a sleepover where we watched a Nancy Drew movie. I remember nothing about it except a scene where Nancy Drew is trying to get rid of a BOMB and she ends up throwing it into a storm drain just before it explodes. That scared me so bad that my friend's mom had to call my mom to pick me up lol. And I had to get rid of my alarm clock because it was gray and the bomb in the movie was also gray.
Omg that was like my favorite movie as a kid. The old care taker guy scared me, and like that one scene where Nancy is investigating something in the attic, she turns around and the care taker guy is standing there, and eventually Nancy is like “do you believe in ghosts *insert care taker name*?” And the dude literally says blankly, “I am a ghost.” That scene creeped me out for some reason, i just was so spooked by how the actor said it i guess lol. He wasn’t even a ghost so like idk why he said that!
Oh my god, I loved both the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh AND the Dear America books, also I'm always singing "gotta get up, gotta get going" to myself haha. Also I definitely read the ones set on the plantation and with the native tribe, which were very dark, but I remember really loving this one about a girl in the great depression called "Christmas After All", which wasn't as dark as some of them but still had a scene where she thinks her dad abandoned them which freaked me out as a kid!!
I’m a very experienced fruit fly trapper. Get those transparent double sided stickers and put them in the top right corner of every window pane (I use Raid brand). They sell at Home Depot! Second best solution is the blue light plug-ins with glue boards. Vinegar traps are weaker than these solutions!
I feel very validated that you mentioned the catchiness of the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh; pretty much any time I am struggling to wake up in the morning I start mentally singing “Gotta get up, gotta get goin’, gonna see a friend of mine. He’s round and he’s fuzzy, I love him because he’s just Pooh Bear!” And then it’s in my head for the rest of the day. That song is one of my forever earworms, but as you said, no one ever seems to mention it.
I had successfully suppressed that opening scene from fly away home until you mentioned the windshield and the raindrops. And it all came crashing back and im re-traumatized 👍
I remember watching this movie at a sleepover birthday party. The worst part was we'd start the movie, then another kid would show up. So we'd restart it, rewatch the horrible opening, then another kid would arrive. So we'd restart it! I watched that opening like 5 times in a row.
Oh I loved that Winnie the Pooh series (the Finnish dub) and unfortunately the movie too! To the point that the vhs of the movie got so run down that the picture was all scratchy and black and white by the end :( My favourite part by far was Pooh's sad little song towards the end and it was the height of melancholy for my 7 year old self <3
For ages as a kid I had a recurring nightmare about a mountain that ate children and all my favorite cartoon characters were there trying to figure out what to do about it, and also getting eaten. I was always so confused about where it came from. Let me tell you, I was SHOCKED when that theme song came surging up from the depths of my memory. I am stunned
I loved the Dear America series, and my favorite one was literally a girl aboard the Titanic…she made one friend on the crew and he died…
The hat joke got me every time. But the fact that the hat wasn't mentioned while talking about Yoshi was perfect
“Floop is a madman help us save us” is a crucial piece of me + my partner’s lore
I STILL sing the "Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" song... Totally a good one Lol I can't believe that your #1 Goosebumps pick is the one I remember most vividly of the three I read before I got caught...
I famously extremely rarely cry at movies/TV, even as a child, like I could probably count on my hands the number of times I've been moved to tears by media I'm watching (and I'm 33, so that's way less than once a year). Pikachu's Goodbye fucked me right up as a kid. Core memory.
I watched the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh as a kid. I don't remember having a particular fondness for the show; it was just something that was on so we watched it, and I don't remember any details of any episodes. But the theme song is an earworm that has regularly played in my head over the whole 30+ years since I last watched the show!
The skull from Pooh’s Grand Adventure featured in a nightmare I had as a kid. I still remember it because I woke up on the floor, having thrashed so hard in my sleep that I fell out of bed.
I edited an extended cut of the 1993 Super Mario Bros movie. It's on Archive somewhere as the Morton Jankel Cut. It was intended to be official at the time. And that's why my hat today is .... Also I think those flies should away from your home!
Astrid Lindgren is the MVP of traumatising children (and parents). I still cannot think about The Brothers Lionheart for more than 5 seconds without crying
Do you purposefully line up Aragog's seam with the crack of the door? I've noticed it a few times it's very satisfying
Omg I haven't thought about Fly Away Home in years. We watched it for a Girl Scouts father/daughter event , and the only thing I can remember is the traumatic car accident scene in the beginning
Hearing the Pooh's Grand Adventure theme awakened me like a sleeper agent.
Also, just in case anyone else was as fixated on it as I was, I was obsessed with the Dear America series. The Oregon Trail one especially. The part where one of the wagons tips over during a river crossing and the nice lady drowns was super upsetting, but I couldn't stop rereading it.
There actually is a way for eels to live on dry land: an aquarium! Maybe Featherfin gets to live in one of those big public tanks and watch the people watching him.
PARANORMAL CIRQUE tours through Colorado sometimes, maybe it comes near you too! It's spooky and spicy!
When we were little, a neighbor lent my sister and me a couple of DVDs. One was Thumbelina, which freaked us out and we couldn’t finish it. The other one was the live-action Madeline (1998), which began with the most terrifying sequence of Madeline being wheeled out of her house and taken away in an ambulance. That one also disturbed us too much to finish
I think the ink pronunciation might be a West coast/East coast thing, because I'm from North Carolina and can't even get my tongue to form the shape to pronounce "ink" the way you say it. "Eeenk" like the Dear America girl says is just the normal way I say it.
Mandie and the Forgotten Christmas (2011) feels like a bad knockoff American Girl movie, about an orphan squatting in the attic of a boarding school (or something). Everything was pretty standard, until the orphan girl BIT Into what looks like a RAW Rabbit!! On Screen. I watched it again, and I think it was meant to be roasted or boiled, but it's like the whole headless skinless body. The group I was watching it with exploded. Insane.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Ppj_ixHbg 1:04:00 if you're interested. #deadpigeon
The reason Pooh and friends were so worried about Christopher Robin is because CR had left a note for Pooh explaining he was going to school and not to worry, but honey got on it and made it sound like he was in trouble. The part that sticks in my brain is when they find CR and he peels of the bits of honey to show the actual words.
When you started mentioning the Serendipity books, I was sure you were going to talk about Squeakers which is the one where a cute little squirrel is approached by a mole and offered hazelnuts in return for her fur. I read it as a kid and it was a very scary read for me. He’s doing this terrible thing to her and giving her the nuts as consolation and telling her not to tell anyone. I was too young to see the parallels but it was a scary read as a first grader.
I used to watch Pooh's Grand Adventure all the time because we owned it on VHS and I was a big Winnie the Pooh fan as a little kid! I don't remember it super clearly, but I do remember being stressed out by it. Didn't stop me and my sister from watching it over and over though haha
I watched that Winnie the Pooh movie and remember hating it too! I remember Owl describing what skull was and particularly feeling spooked by his explanation, very weird creepy movie
There was a “fear circus” I saw a few years back in Daytona Beach. It ended up being pretty lame lol
In the comics (teen titans the judas contract) the terra story is darker but way different; she is on the teen titans but betrays them because she is sexually groomed as the lover of the villain slade
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone comments about how Terra’s story goes in the comics. The introduction in the Judas Contract book has Wolfman explain their logic in creating Terra and its… An interesting read.
when it comes to "unreasonably dark" the thing about movies like The Land Before Time and the mom dying is... kids experience death, I don't actually think its unreasonably scary because its going to happen to a lot of kids.
I showed my son the land before time thinking the mom scene would kill him, he didn’t care but he was scared of the trex parts though lol.
i like how you said your yoshi cap was from every dinosaur-related media in the video *except* the mario movie
I love how beast boy is just "terra's friend" lmao
I was 5 years old when I witnessed the Death of Optimus Prime in a theater full of crying kids. Hasbro's brilliant idea of having the G1 line gunned down to a Heavy Metal soundtrack traumatized Me forever.
Fantastic Mr Fox getting his tail shot off made me so upset as a kid. something about the limp thing staying as a prop for the rest of the movie made me deeply aware of bodily harm
My kid discovered Pokemon this year and bawled during Pikachu’s goodbye. Universal childhood experience.
Now I finally know the the name of the Winnie the Pooh movie that creeped me out so much as a kid I was sure I'd made it up!
Pooh’s Grand Adventure is the Pooh media I’ve watched by far the most. That one was the definitive Winnie the Pooh tone for me growing up. Weird.
that is so crazy because I always thought the "peenk" for pink and "eenk" for ink thing was a west coast or californian accent. I hear it all the time especially from actors and influencers, but it also comes up in how the guys in blink-182 say "theenk" (think), and they are also from california...
Poohs grand adventure and dinosaur story freaked me out as a kid holy shit i kind of thought i was the only person who watched both of those hahahaha
Happy to see you wearing the uncle Pterano hat. Good choice!
Yo Pooh’s Grand Adventure is my ultimate comfort movie it’s so beautiful 🫠
I loved the Dear America books, but they did have dramatically different trauma levels. Coal Miners Bride is always the one I think of, because this 15 year old in Poland or something gets a letter from her father in America that he's found a good husband for her that will pay her boat passage. She has to leave her grandmother, and when she gets to the US she finds that her intended husband is a much older man with two kids already. When she's forced to marry him it turns out he's also a violent drunk and his kids hate her. Luckily, a few months after their marriage he dies in a mining accident and she's left a widow with two kids. Truly insane book to read at nine.
Hair is looking especially shiny and beautiful Jenny !!
I'm glad you mentioned the winnie the pooh show because my memories of it really are mostly dark and unsettling!! There was a very good episode where they were cowboys in an ice cream parlor, but the scary ones I remember were one where the sky was leaking? Or a piece fell down? And they end up going up to cloud world to fix it? I remember being very daunted by cloud world. Then there was an episode where it was Tigger's birthday and he started making tons of wishes, too many wishes!! And they were in some kind of wish negaverse and Pooh was struggling with all the stuff Tigger was wishing for, like trying to climb up a mountain of cake and toys and stuff to get to Tigger at the top. And then there were an episode where Rabbit feels underappreciated and decides to go sell himself at the antique store!!! And the whole thing takes place in the dark and spooky antique store and I remember it being extremely distressing. AND THEN OF COURSE!!!! There's the Cassie episode!! The episode where Rabbit adopts a baby bird and then has to learn to let her fly away! HEART-WRENCHING.
cannot stop making prolongued soulful eye contact with the purple Creature on your shelf. it knows what I am...
Reign of Fire is great!
Gotta get up Gotta get going I'm gonna watch Jenny talk
I've always said ink and pink that way and I'm from pnw. I had no idea that it was considered weird??
The Hans Christian Anderson morality lessons remind me a lot of Louisa May Alcott's children's books, which karmically punish characters' normal childish impulses and curiosities. In one book, a girl plays rough with the boys despite being warned not to, and is punished by breaking her back, only getting better when she learns to appreciate sitting home and sewing. I found it so creepy that kids were supposed to feel guilty for just being kids instead of perfect pious angels.
I mainly remember that version of Winnie the Pooh, but we also had some older episodes taped onto VHS so I can remember both theme songs. I used to channel surf the 5 available channels we had in Australia when I was a kid and would quite often stumble across weird animated things on SBS or mid afternoon school holidays ABC. I remember seeing a short animated version of The Little Match Girl, and I had seen a (possibly Disney) live action version so thought 'oh this is animated and cartoons are for kids and this is a kid story for kids' and then watched it. I felt a pit of despair open up inside me as the realisation of what actually happens in that story hit me. It's was very grim but the Disney version I had seen seemed like it had a happy ending. There was also a stop-motion animated movie called The Adventures of Mark Twain, which has such a crazy section about Tom, Huck and Becky meeting a Mysterious Stranger, that I admittedly saw in High School but it was aimed at kids and had I seen it as a kid, would've probably changed me a lot. Also I'm very glad you have such a large and niche collection of hats that fit every occasion and video topic.
The phenomenon with "ink" is part of what is called the "Southern Vowel Shift." It shows up in other words as well. This particular example is specifically called "pre-nasal /I/ raising". It is accurate that this is a feature for many dialects we recognize as "Southern".
also, I feel like a lot of episodes of the Winnie the Pooh tv show had really big arbitrary sad stakes. Like “I guess they don’t love me anymore, I’m gonna go out into the woods and die alone” type storylines (but it was always a misunderstanding). Winnie the Pooh and Christmas too, where he thinks he ruined Christmas for everyone by losing the letter to Santa…it gets so sad….
I love New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and also can sing the whole theme song from memory (including the iconic key change). But to be fair I…do have this song in my iTunes…
i too loved the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh!!! and tbh i also loved Pooh's Grand Adventure but probably mostly bc my favourite kids' show episodes/movies were always the ones that were slightly spooky. also i can't believe your hat isn't Yoshi!!
"Attack of the Slime Monster" from Ghostwriter on PBS gave me nightmares for years.
Finally. A place to put the one traumatizing bit of children's media that I've held onto for literally 30 years: the "Attack of the Slime Monster" episode of Ghostwriter. It was a multi-part episode where the kids were writing some sort of scary story for a contest(?). Honestly, I don't remember much of the backstory because all I remember is the antagonist they created: a horrible little purple dude named Gooey Gus. I BEG you to image search Gooey Gus and then also ask yourself, "Why did PBS do this?" Gooey Gus haunted my dreams for literal years. I am changed by Gooey Gus. Who might I have been had I not seen Gooey Gus?
Gooey Gus is the reason for every subsequent economic crisis and terrible world event.
Oh man serendipity books. I loved how they made non traditionally cute animals adorable. Like an eel, a gecko, even serendipity is a sea monster. I have kids now I should get some for them!
Man I totally forgot how horrifying that stuff in spy kids was. My young brain must have blotted it out to protect me.
I absolutely loved Poohs Grand Adventure growing up. I found the first few minutes where theyre misunderstanding the note Christopher Robin left them to be the pinnacle of comedy for some reason. Honestly not sure if i ever made it to the end
Thank You Diva!! I’ve been a patron for a few months and I love the videos abt children’s horror and all things spooky ! Keep it coming! You rock !!
I read so many Dear America books. I remember one was about a brother and sister were kidnapped by Native Americans to replace children killed by white settlers. I feel like at the end they were all killed and "rescued".... Maybe I'm misremembering
The magician themed choose your own adventure goosebumps had an ending where you were suffocated with worms. I still think about it
Yes, loved the new adventures of winnie the pooh. I've only seen the original movie a couple of times but the cartoon show was my childhood. Also transformers the movie was the movie that most traumatised me as a kid
Ah, I’m somewhat younger than you so I wasn’t expecting one of my formative traumatizing media, the Teen Titans finale!Teen Titans was one of my favorite childhood shows and I remember being incredibly confused and frustrated by the finale (as a kid I couldn’t tell whether she was really Terra or had amnesia or what, though having seen it again she’s clearly supposed to be lying). I rewatched the whole series a few years back and I was very surprised by how poignant I found it as an adult, this might be a hot take but it’s actually now one of my favorite episodes of the show (Also as a very moody kid who loved to read, Raven was the one I identified with, ha)
A really fun part of parenting is watching your child make these kinds of memories in real time. Like when Moana dies at the end of Moana 2, and you're desperately trying to console your preschooler in the movie theater while The Rock sings a sad song over Moana's pale lifeless corpse for 76 straight minutes.
My friend and I watching this, both from Florida, totally unable to hear the difference you’re describing: “Ink? Ink? Ink?” (ad nauseam)
You can't hear it even though Jenny definitely says it a way that I assume is different from the way you do? The way Jenny normally says it is just like the word "in" with a "k"; the way that girl in Dear America says it has a little bit of a long "ee" sound at the start, like she begins voicing the word higher in her throat/more nasal.
I watched The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh so much as a kid
I didn't usually get scared of longform stuff like movies or tv shows, usually it'd be quicker things like shorts or commercials that would scare me. The one exception was this one power rangers episode where, in my mind, the moster of the week was slowly but surely causing one of the main characters to remember false memories, using that as a way to mind control him by genuinely just making him see things that aren't there. The funniest part is i rewatched the episode and that's not what it was actually about whatsoever, i must've just seen the intro to the episode and made up a plot in my head that was way scarier than the real thing.
at 30:53 i really expected it to go "The series that brought women to the front line!"
your remark about the related brother doctor name rhyming thing is especially funny in a video where you also mention Teen Titans growing up as an avid fan of the show myself, I had all the action figures. I had 2 of Terra… so, naturally, one of them was Sarah. why? because They Were Sisters
I literally remembered the lyrics to "Where Ever You Are" from Pooh's Grand Adventure for twenty solid years before I actually listened to it again, so I think I watched it a lot as a kid.
Bolt (2008) was genuinely traumatising to me as a child, I remember there’s a scene with a surgeon who has glowing green eyes injecting something into the main character? and also the scene with the house fire where the girl gets all burnt up and you think the dog is going to die. anyways that gave me nightmares for years.
Bolt is soooo underrated, and I know exactly the scene you're talking about
*patiently waits for YT to unfuck itself*
That Winnie the Pooh theme song was buried somewhere deep in the back of my brain my GOD My Winnie the Pooh movie for my childhood was the Tigger movie and and the scene where he gets to his family tree and it's empty made me sob UNCONTROLLABLY when I was like six.
Yes! That movie also made me sob as a kid
Does anyone know where Jenny would have bought her Rex from Toy Story hat?
Serendipity was coffee table books for tweens.
A fun fact is that the Pikachu's Goodbye ep was a direct response to the Porygon Seizure episode. It was the first ep to air when it returned after a long hiatus and my cynical heart can see that they were trying to worm their way back into the hearts of children (after causing mass hysteria).
OMG I was SO scared of that part in Spy Kids, too!
I'm gonna be honest, I cannot hear the difference between "ink" and "eenk" so I must be one of those people.
I don't know if this helps, but when trying to say it the second way, the "I" is being pronounced higher in the back of the throat than the other one. It's subtle, but it's very... there.
The Pooh’s Grand Adventure misunderstanding happened because Christopher Robin left a note that he had gone to school but Owl told them it said skull. The basic plot was recycled for the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie except the misunderstanding was “back soon” was interpreted as a monster called a “Backson” and the tone was much lighter
It makes sense because Jenny and I are the same age, but I still find it funny every time our experiences overlap. Like yes, I was really into Teen Titans and it felt like it was for a while but really I only watched the first 2 seasons. And I also really liked Sonic but merch was hard to come by. I think the only time I even saw Sonic merch was a plushie from a crane game and a that time a fast food chain had those little handheld games.
There was something very scary about Pooh's Grand Adventure that I can't explain, but I was fully obsessed as a kid. But I was really into things that scared me
girl that's yoshi!!!
oh dammit i fell for the BIT
"And this is why I'm wearing my _________ hat from ____________". I do love a good running joke. 🤣 And then conspicuously NOT referring to it after literally mentioning Yoshi in the MB movie segment. 💀. This was a quality ramble!! But... how the heck are we supposed to say "ink"? Like the start of "incorporated"? And is"pink" supposed to just be "pin" with a K tacked on? I've not been this baffled since the Great Toaster Oven Controversy of... whenever that came up. (Probably in the Brave Little Toaster ramble)
The toaster oven thing was strange because nobody knew what she was talking about, but this is just accents. Yes. That is how I say "pink".
Jenny: there's this Pooh show nobody seems to remember but me me: "...climbing a honey tree"
the Anastasia royal diary was soooooo gas, one of my favorite childhood books
omg yes this was one of the ones i owned!! i remember crying learning how they all died. funny enough i never saw the movie
I vividly remember the dear America with the slave girl because her friend was getting sexually abused by the plantation owner, and I was so terrified after reading that that I had a panic attack
Thumbelina is one if my favorite movies everrrr, i still rewatch it often as a comfort film
I absolutely loved the new adventures of winnie the pooh growing up and I often find myself singing the theme song lyrics to myself. I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN JENNY.
It was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Dinotopia.
Excuse me, I ROCKED OUT to the Winnie the Pooh tv show theme song!
The Illumination Mario Movie is EXTREMELY CONVENTIONAL kid's movie fare. It feels like it's for really young kids for the most part, and it's not very compelling or memorable.
Very true. But it is exactly what the child inside--who made it through the live action movie all those times for the bob-omb, and can still remember the names of the henchbots of the dumb cartoony Sonic--it is EXACTLY was that child was dreaming of. On those grounds, I made you sit through it that one time 😉, and on those grounds I suggest Jenny sit down and watch it at least ONCE.
I don't remember Terra in Teen Titans very well, but I remember not liking her. Maybe because she felt sorta like a Mary Sue?
Having looked her up, I also didn't like that she has a frog face. Like, she just kinda has nostrils instead of a nose.
Not only are you not the only one who remembers The Winnie the Pooh theme song, I have it on a playlist named “Instant Happiness.”
The scene I remember from Fly Away Home that really bothered me was when she's in the shower with all the geese and she squirts shampoo in her eyes.
My husband and I sing that Winnie the Pooh theme song to our baby all the time!
I used to watch Fly Away Home all the time as a child, but I remember nothing about it except that scene where the bad guy clips the one duck's wing and the heroes go "nooo!" and take it away from him, so that duck had always the most trouble with managing to fly. There was a lot going on in that movie, lol.
That Pooh Bear theme song is hitting me with a wave of nostalgia! The Featherfin story reminds me of why I always had an issue with Rainbow Fish. Loved the art, hated the message. I never really thought about it, but you’re right, a lot of these stories about kids ending up far from home have gendered morals.
I love terra so much!! her storyline in the 80s comics was incredibly dark (she was a 15 year old in a """relationship""" with old man deathstroke, kind of cosplaying as an adult to cope, very nasty and flawed person in a lot of ways but also clearly a victim, had really mixed feelings about the titans) and i think the cartoon version was a fantastic adaptation that kept the predatory tone in her relationship with slade while making it more explicitly a storyline about abuse. especially the way he engineered her separation from friends who would have supported her by creating a situation where he knew she would end up feeling betrayed. (very palpatine and anakin core as well because it specifically plays off her trauma and tendency toward black and white thinking) kind of echoed later in ravens s4 storyline where she struggles with her own abusive demon dad, raven and terra were great foils to each other too. very sad!! (said happily because i love tragedy) <3
as a child obsessed with dinosaurs, i thought the brother trying to leave dinotopia was a horrible spoilsport literally looking a gift horse in the mouth. it’s a dinosaur utopia, why would you want to leave??
Better to reign in normal world than serve in dinotopia
I was genuinely concerned about Featherfin so thank you for letting us know he is okay! The picture of him beached reminds me of my snake, which I found so distressing. I do appreciate your interpretation of the ending. I agree that the net would be a better parallel. Let the eel dream dammit.
In Mexico we have El Circo del Miedo, literally The Circus of Fear LOL. And at least the original version they have a story ABOUT a girl being trapped in some sort of nightmare land. AND YES OF COURSE I REMEMBER THE NEW ADVENTURES OF WINNIE THE POOH! I know the opening song by heart too (in Spanish though). And I do remember the Grand Adventure film, and I actually only watched it a couple of times because I did find it kind of eerie and weird (I love The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh though).
Pikachu's Goodbye was the first time as a child that a tv show ever made me cry and I'm not ashamed to admit that.
Pooh's Grand Adventure was my favorite movie as a kid, I literally watched it over and over until the tape broke. It was only when I got older that I realized how incredibly sad it is. It's Toy Story 3 years before TS3, and features one of the saddest songs ever written- Wherever You Are which makes me weep every time I hear it. I also loved The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and in our adulthood me and my family will still sing the songs to each other constantly. But I was very much a Winnie the Pooh kid- my love of Piglet was my entire personality, lol
Did anyone else read that book series by Suzanne Collins about the whimsical underground world where people were at war with giant rats and lived in a monarchy and fought with swords?? A lot of disturbing scenes, but if you’ve read it, obviously the evil new rat leader rising to power committed genocide via toxic gas witnessed by the main characters…
Gregor the Overlander! I loved that series growing up. When Hunger Games came out I was like "oh I know that author!". I do remember it being very dark. I also randomly remember one scene where he learned to see with echolocation like a bat lol, I was convinced I could learn echolocation if I just practiced hard enough
well, don bluth is a mormon so you can probably just assume that whatever hangups he has are at least on par with hans christian andersen tbh
I feel like that explains a lot. Like nothing specific, but just how everything felt slightly "off" when it came to romance or sexuality.
Watch the Mario movie. It’s fun!
Well here we go, I've been roped back in under the context of horror and disturbing media content.
Genuinely adored the Winnie the Pooh TV Show - when Disney+ dropped back in 2019 it was the first thing I watched and found that it holds up remarkably well! Gorgeous animation for TV too.
great ramble as always! i have to admit, i was a little surprised you never mentioned that scene in meet the robinsons where the villain takes over everyone's minds with his evil robot bowler hats- i assumed that's why you were wearing a tiny the t-rex hat.
If you can get over the visuals, you should give Dinosaurs another chance. It's got good social commentary that's still relevant.
I hated all the characters too 😔 they were all so stupid and nasty to each other. And that horrible baby
I read Thumbelina as a little girl and it scared the shit out of me. Especially like I think there was one part with the frog where his mother is kidnapping Thumbelina in like a walnut shell and she's going to make her marry her ugly frog son.
WALLACE AND GROMIT: A MATTER OF LOAF AND DEATH!!!! I love w&g movies as a kid, when that movie came out it genuinely scared me bc there was more explicit depictions of death, the bakers that get battered (ha) to death, and the villain eventually dies by implied alligator 🐊. It genuinely disturbed me growing up compared to the other movies!!!
OMG YES SAME. I grew up on W&G because my parents were big fans, and this movie and especially Night of the Were-Rabbit as well as The Wrong Trousers was so scary to me
Along the lines of multiple of your picks, the Rainbow Fish book always kinda perturbed me as a kid. Not, at the time, in any way I could articulate, but I found out years later that my mom HATED that book lol, for similar reasons that it had disturbed me. It's one of those stories where, yes, okay, you can see the lesson they're GOING for, but it ends up conflating selfishness/vanity with bodily autonomy. In order to be accepted by his peers, Rainbow Fish must give up pieces of his BODY. It never sat right. I remember clearly in one art class as a kid some girl kept tormenting me because I had very long hair and she insisted that I should donate to locks of love, implying that to refuse would be selfish. To me, that's the way the rainbow fish parable manifests in real life. There could be such better ways to talk about selfishness, vanity, or both, without it being a "give up your body/uniqueness to fit in" story.
Yeah, it should teach kids how vanity makes others feel worse about themselves or makes you too preoccupied with yourself to recognize the problems of others, not that "you're not allowed to have qualities that you're proud of and other people are jealous of."
I remember The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Almost every morning I still have to fight off the intrusive starting bars of the song when my alarm goes off. "Gotta get up... I gotta get going. I'm going to see a friend of mine!" I agree it doesn't seem to get talked about much alongside the other 90s Disney shows. Maybe because it's just... nice? It's not reshaping the characters or world. It's just a charming little series with cute animation.
I liked it a lot. It reminds me of the Moomins, where it's not super deep, it's mostly just very friendly.
There's a cool fan theory about how Terra came back... When Trigon turned the whole human race to stone, and then they unfroze, Terra unfroze with them. She lost her memories and powers because she was frozen for such a long time.
I was mostly off the series in the Trigon season (I remember disliking it as a concept lol it felt supernatural in a way that didn't gel with more scifi superheroes for me) but that totally makes sense. Although imo Terra totally kept her memories and powers and was just gaslighting Beast Boy because she doesn't want to be Terra anymore
Feather Fin 2 🤣 yeah just put him in a little water helmet like when spongebob visits sandy.
That’s basically the plot of the classic James Blish science fiction story “Surface Tension “. Definitely would have been even better with Featherfin!
Fruit flies are such a menace, I store my banana peels in a bag in my fridge because I'm so scared of them producing fruit flies in my trash. Thank you for powering through tho - a delightful video as always! I'm always so impressed how much you remember the media you watched as a kid and what it made you feel. My memory is very poor, but I love when you remind me of something that otherwise would've stayed long forgotten for me. The Winnie the Pooh theme song was SO good, you're right!
POOH BEAR! WINNIE THE POOH BEAR! WHERE EVER YOU GO, OH WON'T YOU TAKE ME PLEASE wow i knew allllllllll the words to that damn theme song, i think i had some of the eps on vhs as a kid
(just saw this answered in another comment, yay!) Was Pooh's grand adventure the one where they get lost/separated in some kind cave or cavern? Maybe with mirrored/distorted walls? I've got some memory of a disheartening scene there, but no idea where it's from. I remember the Tigger movie also being kind of a bummer, with Tigger grappling with not having any family or relatives.
Yes, there's a big crystal cave they get separated in.
Watching the "ink" part as a non-native english speaker is a bizarre experience. Both of the ways Jenny says "ink" are completely recognizeable to me as the word "ink" with very little difference.
omg Spy Kids was my favorite as a kid. it scared me too but in a thrilling way. I remember around that time getting into playing songs in reverse and listening for coded messages lol
My sisters and I loved Spy Kids as children but I haven't watched it in years and years, so I forgot how genuinely unnerving those Fooglies were!! Those prosthetics were horrifying, I'm surprised it didn't frighten me as a kid lol! I think my biggest example of "unreasonably dark scenes in children media" is absolutely the 1978 Watership Down film. When I was young, a rerun was on the TV, and all I knew was "it's a story about rabbits!" and being an animal loving child I turned it on, only to be met with the scene where Bigwig is caught in a snare, and he's suffocating and bleeding and his mouth was foaming, and it was so scary I turned it off and didn't touch the story at all for years. Since then I've read the book and really love it, and there is indeed that scene in the book, but I think there's a big difference between reading about a rabbit in peril, and then seeing a cutely animated rabbit bleeding and dying on a screen. Funnily enough when the film originally came out, it got lots of complaints from parents since for some reason the film was rated U (which is the lowest rating you can have in the UK, not sure what the US equivalent is) so parents thought "oh a cute rabbit film I can show my young children!" only for those children to be traumatised by rabbits in snares, rabbits being gassed, rabbits being shot, an evil rabbit snapping another rabbit's neck, and general on-screen rabbit death and suffering. And again a lot of those things do happen in the books (aside from the death of Blackavar) but it doesn't feel as bleak in the books as the film. The BBFC stood by their choice to rate it U by saying "well it's animated blood and peril so it's not that scary" but honestly I think that's what *makes* it scary for children, that dissonance between a cute animated animal and the gore and violence. As someone who was traumatised by the film as a child, and who has since rewatched the film and read the book as an adult, I think a PG rating would probably be more appropriate - a 9 or 10 year old might find the film exciting, but I think a 5 year old would be scarred like I was 😅
I read a bunch of royal diary series, but I kind of lost my patience with that after a while. They were always about people who were princesses or the equivalent to a princess if it was in a society that wasn’t strict monarchy, but they also always ended when the character was still a princess. And then they would have an epilogue which would be an explanation of what happened to the person as an adult up until their death. I wanted to read the diary of that person for their entire life, but none of the stuff that happened when they were children was ever as interesting as the stuff that happened when they became adults. I didn’t want to read about Marie Antoinette and her fancy skates and the dolls that she got and her elaborate hairstyles and her impending child marriage, and then have a hard cut to a third person historical account of the rest of her life and eventual death. I wanted to read her telling me about all of those experiences. That was the promise each book made to me, and they always failed to deliver. So I gave up.
Jenny, the Lord of the Flies
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OMG NO BUTTERFREE
That Feather Fin moral is so bizarre. I feel like I can't rank that fish above B tier
45:00 - ohmygod, we had a store like that in Pittsburgh when I was very small! It might have been a knockoff though, because it was in South Hills Village Mall and it was called the Secret Village or something. But it was like a cave full of plushies and it was the coolest thing ever when you were five!
I was obsessed with the New Adventures of Winnie The Pooh and I have distinct memories of singing the theme song to my cat as a child.
Oh my gosh I definitely had the Dear America book of a girl living during the suffragette movement. No one else in my circles seemed to remember them!
Choose Your Own Adventure books generally were scarring.
Funny Frank by Dick King Smith was about a chicken who wanted to be a duck and his family helped him get a hot water bottle wetsuit and flippers and he happily lived his duck life until he met a female chicken, felt ashamed and detransitioned. Most disappointing book to 8yo me it made me so angry.
Pooh's Grand Adventure was one of a few VHS tapes in our house and it made me sickeningly, sickeningly sad every time I watched it. There's a song Pooh and Christopher Robin sing to each other at the beginning. Pooh wishes they could be friends "forever and ever" and Christopher Robin is sort of being gently realistic about it ("forever and ever is a very long time, Pooh"). I think it was the first time I encountered that idea of childhood/people/loves being ephemeral and fleeting.
From memory I believer Christopher Robin just rudely leaves them a note (maybe he can't even bring himself to tell Pooh about school?) and then Pooh drenches it in honey and they take it to Owl to clean it and read it. And Owl reads at like a first grade level, so "school" becomes "skull." But I was also scared of that moment in The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh theme song when the lightning flashes ("and when you're alone and there's nobody home") so not sure my emotional response to the film is very reliable!
That hat is more versatile than Harry Styles
Also did anyone else watch Gruesome Tales For Grizzly Kids? I wasn't actually allowed so most of the time it was turned off but even just the opening scared me lol
I was terrified of grizzly tales too!!
Jesus the Fooglies in Spy Kids freaked me the fuck out. That part where they play their voices backward and they're saying "Floop is madman help us save us" but still in a kinda silly sing-songy voice has been stuck in my head since I was a kid. Speaking of spy movies for kids (why were there so many of those in the 2000s btw?) one particularly horrifying moment I remember was the climax of Agent Cody Banks, where the villain has like, evil cubes of dry ice that have nanotechnology or something in them that will dissolve your flesh. I always covered my eyes at this scene so I don't remember what exactly happens but the villain has the protag's love interest captured and is going to force one into her mouth, but somehow the tables are turned and she ends up pressing his face into a tray of these flesh-eating ice cubes and his face is horribly disfigured/melted. I'm surprised this scene hasn't really come up in these kinds of discussions but maybe the movie is just not that well known. One of my cousins had it on DVD so of course we watched it over and over.
Every one of Jenny's takes in this one is so insightful, from mentioning the weird cautionary theme of "the outside world is scary, stay at home instead" in stories aimed at girls, to the gross indigenous-people-as-backdrop-for-white-main-character-growth trope, to the Dino-dystopia. Jenny was firing on ALL cylinders today! I've never heard of the Serendipity series but as soon as Jenny started describing the Featherfin plot I thought of that anglerfish comic she showed, which actually made me tear up the first time I saw it. So needless to say I'm now team Get Featherfin an Eel Astronaut Suit! My contribution to weirdly dark children's media is an episode of the superman animated series from the 90s. A demon is unleashed and takes over the Daily Planet, and uses dark magic to transform all the workers into gross monsters. They look Lovecraftian, with bat wings and tentacles. Even Lois Lane is transformed into a horrifying creature with long black hair and giant teeth. The imagery has stuck with me for 30 years.
My Dad had an interactive board game with a vhs and I remember playing it with him and being soo terrified of this cryptkeeper character and I just looked it up and it’s so goofy
Some episodes of R. L. Stine’s The Haunting Hour messed me up pretty good. Specifically, The Red Dress and Mascot.
oh my GOD the mascot one and Red Eye gave me such bad nightmares as a kid. maybe I'm just sensitive but I still find it wild they used to air that show right after Spongebob on YTV. just straight up live action children getting tormented and killed. I vividly remember the episode where aliens cut off and eat a child's toe while said child is awake and conscious
Jenny I have seen Pooh’s Grand Adventure (and the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) SO MANY TIMES! Dozens of times. Revisiting the grand adventure film as an adult, I was disappointed by how slow and dull the pacing of the film felt, but I enjoyed how emotional it was. And the theme song of the new Adventures of Winnie the Pooh is a bop I will die for
I saw Spy Kids for the first time when I was 8 visiting my family who had a pool. It disturbed me so much that I couldn't bring myself to swim or have fun the rest of the trip. And I was too embarrassed to tell anyone why I was acting so weird. Whenever I tell people how scared I was of it they act like they don't know what I'm talking about
Poohs grand adventure taught me what depression feels like
when she's talking about how she might misremember the levels of depression in it but shows actual scenes from the movie (which I assume she found later), that's peak comedy, it's so much worse than I thought lmao
I can’t believe anyone else has seen Fly Away Home
Round the Twist absolutely freaked me out as a kid, the episode where a man is running from bullies has a wee on a tree and is ten impregnated by a tree spirit and burps out the baby haunts me!
I DO remember the Winnie the Pooh show theme song, but like in Spanish
The last thing I remember about Terra's arc is also when she died at the end of Season 2 and to hear this is what became of her in the series finale makes me so sad 🥲🥲🥲
When she said goosebumps the first thing i thought of was camp jellyjam - i only read the comic version as a kid and it was terrifying! Also the dear america mention is so niche and i used to read a dear canada book about a girl who crossdressed during the gold rush to find her lost father so many times
I used to have nightmares about this scene and the pajama bear from Barney: https://youtu.be/SAAr-DSbfV8?feature=shared
I do think you'd get a real kick out of Thumbelina : A Magical Adventure; it's an anime miniseries that was compiled into a movie, and holy shit... Without giving too much away about the wild ride it was, there's a song during a fight and chase sequence about Snakes. The lyrics are literally "It's a snake! It's a snake! It is real- NOT FAKE" It's free on youtube. It's definitely not good but worth at least one watch lmaooo
DAMN really hitting all my childhood trauma greatest hits with this one...chicken run...that highly specific dear america book i remember reading (though i remember being obsessed with the titanic one myself)...spy kids....classics truly. and by classics i mean they horrified me
I LOVED chicken run but every time we rented it, I would leave the room when the chicken gets beheaded, it upset me so much as a kid
The ink/ eenk thing is so real. My parents (from downstate ny) would always poke fun at me (raised in upstate ny) fornthe way I said bank and thank you. "Bink" and "think you."
I remember being shown the slavery episode of Dear America in elementary school! You didn't mention the darkest part, a super violent scene where a slave (I think the journaling narrator's brother or cousin) is violently whipped for no good reason, with lots of blood. It was the first point during my whitewashed schooling on slavery that it was shown that whipping was an actually brutally violent act, and not the "ah ouchie that stings a bit like being snapped by a rubber band" it always got presented as to young kids. I think it was the whipped brother who hooks up with underground railroad people...and then decides he'd rather stay instead. I think it was because he wanted to support an elderly relative. Or maybe it was to support some of the "good" whites, in which case, ew. I definitely remember it registering as one of the first moments where my young self didn't just take a piece of media at face value and was like "hey the message here feels problematic"
The Goosebumps episode that messed me up is called "Cuckoo Clock of Doom". I've been absolutely terrified of cuckoo clocks ever since.
This is the creepiest thing I ever saw as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esPe1Jrfwr8 . It's an animation of the book "Teeny Tiny and the Witch Woman." We had it on a DVD of Scholastic book videos. It's still insanely creepy to me, especially the witch's voice. I'm obsessed with it. Every time someone makes a video about disturbing kids' media I think about it. I need someone else to acknowledge that it exists.
Even just on that intro, that is pretty eerie.
ohhh my god Pooh's Grand Adventure was on LOOP at my house growing up. My brother and I are in our 30s now and we still say "yes yes, the carrot in the back row, 'halloo' what?" to each other all the time.
Omg my siblings and I say that one too and also “I KNEW ‘SCHOOL’ HAD ANOTHER Y IN IT” 😂
I watched the same Winnie the pooh show, and had the movie on VHS, and I agree that the theme song was a banger AND the movie was extremely unsettling to me at age 3 or 4. I liked it though, maybe I just enjoyed being unsettled.
Ok I’m just gonna say for me personally the SpongeBob movie was like the number one example of this to me as a kid. Like why was that movie so scary? Did they not think that the mind control subplot wouldn’t scare young children? I have ocd too so I obsessed over that for months and had such terrible nightmares of something like that happening to me or my loved ones. Idk how no script supervisor was like “hey maybe a subplot about a large number of people having their free will and autonomy removed and made into literal slaves might be a bit too scary of an idea for our target demographic” but uh nope! They went ahead with it and that movie fueled 70% of my nightmares as a 5 year old
I remember the anglerfish part scaring me so much that I'd literally leave the room. Specifically when the fleshy part forms into a cat for some reason.
I was also super scared of Spy Kids when I was a child. The Fooglies scared me so bad we had to leave the theater.
The scene in Flyaway Home that weirded me out as a kid was where Anna Paquin freaked out in the shower, and her guardian's friend saw her naked. Even as a kid I was like, what was the point of that scene?
One of my first thoughts was the movie Help! I'm a Fish, where three young children get turned into fish. That premise alone deeply unsettled me as a child, but then the way they handled the villain particularly stuck with me. The villain was a fish that had accidentally drunk a serum that started turning it human, giving it intelligence. To defeat the fish, the main character tricked him into drinking more and more of the potion, becoming increasingly grotesque, until he became too human and drowned, his lifeless body just slowly drifting away
Hey if yall like suprisingly dark moments in kids media look up ‘Leafie A Hen Into The Wild original ending’ and then maybe reply to this after because I am always shocked by how little it gets brought up in these conversations
This vid made me realize I pronounce ink like the little girl lol. Didn't sound weird to me at all
Are you telling me there is serendipity book plush!?!? I'm sure it's a billion dollars now but I'm devastated by this information. Serendipity books were my favorites growing up and I'll never forgive my racist terrible school librarian for throwing them away out of spite instead of marking them out when they were retired. I dig in the trash for those books and couldn't find them and she knew it.
I have had "Floop is a madman help us save us" stuck as a very visceral memory in my brain ever since I was a kid so finally hearing its source in this video felt like an exorcism
POOH BEAR WINNIE THE POOH BEAR - it's not just you Jenny this jingle lives in my mind
My cousin had all of the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh on VHS and we watched the episode where Tigger is a train robber in the Old West at every sleepover. And of course sang along to the theme song. Pooh’s Grand Adventure terrified me, and not just because of the Skull. I think it was my introduction to the disturbing idea that no matter what things would change and people would grow up and nothing could last forever. “Forever and ever is a very long time, Pooh!!!”
Wow, thank you for the reminder of that wild west train robbery episode! I absolutely had that VHS, I loved it so much. Now I'm remembering another one where tigger was an inadvertently bad vigilante hero, that one bummed me out every time for some reason.
i loved the Winnieh the Pooh show and theme song! and i had the movie on vhs and it was super scary but i used to watch it all the time
Every once in a while i remember the new adventures of winnie the pooh theme song, absolutely loved that as a kid. But yeah that skull plot used to stress me out so much
omg another blonde-as-a-kid Terra fan we're so back
I remember that Winnie the Pooh show. I was actually really creeped out by the Halloween episode where Eeyore is a dragon as a kid 😭 as an adult it wasn’t scary but I agree it’s a bleak animation style lol
Have to comment on We're Back and how beautiful the animation is in that clip.
Thrilled someone else has never forgotten that Winnie the Pooh theme song. It has been stuck in my head for 20 years
I'd forgotten about it but when that theme song played, I awoke like a sleeper cell. I knew every single word
Dinotopia (the book) was mostly a travelogue where a shipwrecked man and his son washed ashore on the island. The son was excited to join the society (and fell in love), the man wanted to return to America at first but was eventually convinced. There was a narrative where the bad guy wanted to steal a giant gem and return to the rest of the world, but mostly just meeting all the societies. The sequel had more of a narrative. Both of them are mostly about the absolutely gorgeous illustrations.
Hans my man give yourself a break!!!!! This video is already an all-timer like a quarter in lol
my favorite dear america book as a kid was the one where the young orphaned girl falls in love with one of the stewards aboard the titanic, she survives while he dies, and the survivor’s guilt follows her for the rest of her life. also she names one of her kids after him.
If I was whoever wrote that book I would’ve sued James Cameron
There was an episode of As Told By Ginger that I am still afraid to revisit where they depict the group of kids encountering a mental asylum escapee in the middle of the woods. The character isn't malicious, but is shown to believe he is a dog, and between his character design, the way he's animated, and the uncanniness of the way he's not in touch with the reality of himself or what's around him unsettled me so deeply that I still think about it from time to time more than 20 years later.
I just looked that up and holy shit, they made that guy's design scary!
My sister had the exact same giggle possum plush when we were kids, and seeing it just gave me the most intense feeling of nostalgia! Time to message her I suppose <3 Also Pooh's Grand Adventure was a favourite of mine, and the songs "Forever and Ever" and "If It Says So" are still referenced in my family
I always thought that Clayton's death in the Disney Tarzan was unreasonably dark
nobody mentioned this i think but jenny's hair is looking great despite the chomper dino hat. it's very shiny and voluminous, like a pantene commercial
58:20 fruit fly cameo
To help set up the point about the mediocre Cars ride
No I totally agree about not considering like, Mufasa's Death or Bambi's Mom's Death to be 'unreasonably dark and disturbing.' Most character death scenes never really bothered me as a kid either. Maybe it's because they feel like they're just another part of the plot? Like they're obviously meant to happen in that the stories are completely written around them, etc. On the other hand, you have something like the original 70s adaptation of Willy Wonka, that child me was extremely viscerally terrified of – it starts out all whimsical and cheerful, like "the candyman can! :)" and then proceeds to occasionally show you horrors beyond your comprehension, completely irrelevant to the plot. I know it's probably one of those frequently talked about disturbing kids' media scenes, but... the boat scene really is unreasonably bone-chilling imo.
The whole office scene from Willy Wonka creeped me out so bad as a kid. Something about all of the decor being cut in half and him yelling at Charlie really got to me.
The Angry Beavers episode The Legend of Kid Friendly always made me uncomfortable
Re: Fly Away Home. The Jeff Daniels character is her actual father, who she hasn't seen in forever since her parents separated. (Also, they fly ultralights, not hang gliders, and the fact that the filmmakers really did this with real geese still amazes me.)
the bit from the dinosaur tv show reminds me of the walrus and the carpenter bit from alice in wonderland :,( it always stuck with me because the little oysters are made to look like little babies with little baby bonnets and in my child brain the carpenter wanted to hang out with the little baby oysters while the walrus ate them all. i also didn’t realize oysters or shellfish were something people liked to eat as a kid so i thought this was just a supremely evil walrus who goes around eating little children characters just because
That was my thought too! It’s so horrifying!! 😭
The first time I had to deal with fruit flies, I happened to have a pest control person spray my apartment and I asked them what I should do about them. They were the one who told me about the vinegar and dish soap trick. That made the problem significantly more manageable. When I set out those traps, it was shocking how many fruit flies were actually in my apartment.
"Edwina! Bundty, WHY didn't you give her some of yours?" "I would have. She didn't tell me! She didn't tell anyone!" And, I'm traumatized for life. What if something was coming down on you, and you could avoid it if you could get yourself to tell someone, but something about telling someone makes it feel 'real' and you're too afraid?
I am also terrified by spy kids! When I was super young the strange shaped people scared me. Then as I got older the idea of "permanently being transfigured and enslaved" scared me! Also I like having the updates in the text rather than the video, it works better!
I freaked out when you mentioned Water, I got so depressed when I read the end of that series at eleven years old, I wouldn't read anything else for weeks. Never heard anyone else talk about it before now.
Same! I just read through all the comments to see if anyone else has read it. I still revisit the trilogy on occasion as I think the world building for the mermaid society is really well done.
Feel like you’re gaslighting me with the ink/pink thing but I’m also from Georgia
Today I learned that people from California say "eighnk" instead of "ink"
Right 😂
That Winnie the Pooh film was the FIRST MOVIE I ever saw on a big screen, and I remember that scene with Tigger so vividly. Horrific.
the running hat joke is so so good
Also YES i also watched that pooh series
i love a theme park video! or any video really. whatever brings you the most joy to work on, i say. excited for the new one, and also for this!
I stumbled across the first Dinotopia book in my small grade-school library at exactly the right age for it, the concept was very neat for a kid my age and the artwork was just excellent.
I believe Native Americans taking kids as captives was common - eg in 1763 a peace treaty was signed that included the release of 200 European and in the list you can see whole families. I have two distant relatives who had been taken as teenagers, then released with the treaty. They lived integrated as Indians for seven years, then slipped back into their colonial lives. Google the Hochstetler Massacre,
I read a novel about that as a kid that really made an impression on me, The Ransom of Mercy Carter by Susan B. Cooney. I haven't reread it as an adult, but as a teenager it struck me as a really good complex book. It follows a girl whose family is killed and she's abducted with other kids, but over time she also becomes close to her new "adoptive" family. In the end, years later, friends of hers are allowed to return but she chooses to stay because the tribe has become her new home and her family. I thought it was remarkable how the brutality of the initial events is allowed to coexist in the narrative with the main character's complex relationships with the people she comes to love. I experienced it as a book that wasn't trying to tell you how to feel about anything, just presented you with events and characters that felt very real to me.
As someone from Florida, I can not hear the difference between the two types of ink you are saying and therefore are blowing my mind lol.
Same!!! I feel called out 😂
The fact that she talked about the Mario movie and didn’t say “this is why I’m wearing my Yoshi hat”
I took my midday fever dream nap to this video and i kept waking up right when you said the most disturbing things and it made the weird real life hybrid dream even weirder
This is often Jenny's influence in my life. "That's not a lens, that's just a wall!" gave me a long, long dream about looking up at a Great Wall made of black ice, while Jenny is pacing around nearby, dispiritedly pointing at it and saying, "That's just a wall! Like, what do we do? That's just a wall!"
Ohhhh now I want a video of Jenny retelling the origins of fairy tales. That Hans Christian Andersen narrative had me sat.
Do look up Astrid Lundgren on YT for the best HCA rundown you'll ever hear
Pooh's Grand Adventure had the honor of being one of two tapes that I can remember my family's VCR eating (the other was a House of Mouse special). I think that happened around the 2,000th time I borrowed it from the library.
That illustrator went heavy with the pathos with featherfin gasping for air! The whole message of not going up to surface world could have been better expressed by a pleasant musical number sung by a friendly crustacean. Also love the dino theme with the plushies especially the little burgundy stego!(or maybe a dimetrodon) Great video as always!
The fruit flies have been unreasonably crazy this year. Every time I manage to get rid of them, they get back in TT__TT
Who is the silly maroon dinosaur on the right. That glare could kill
That winnie the pooh movie RUINED MY YEAR when I was four or five years old. I watched it at a friend’s house and my parents and siblings had never seen it, so I remember being so humiliated because I was having nightmares about winnie the pooh for months and I could not explain to my peers that had not seen the film how Pooh could possibly be scary.
For me, that was an episode of Arthur, when the new baby was in DW's room (which, as an adult, what? The infant doesn't sleep next to your other kids, stupid parents, how do you decide that on your THIRD time through infant care boot camp?) The scary part was that she couldn't sleep. I didn't know why it was so scary and sad to think of not being able to sleep, but I now know that sleep deprivance is a form of torture, and that it was upsetting to see parents making bad decisions for their kids.
Speaking of the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, the episode Find Her Keep Her always gutted me as a kid (and still!). It's when Rabbit rescues a baby blue bird :,( And another one that comes to mind is from The Little Mermaid Series: Against the Tide, where Ariel rescues a bad luck creature. Ah it made me cry as a kid!! That feeling will always be palpable.
Rasputin getting all of his flesh sucked off when he makes a deal with the devil in Anastasia freaked me out real bad as a kid also the "a character has died" music in the version of Oregon Trail we had
My kitchen had an awful fruit-fly infestation for like a week and it was psychologically one of the worst things I've ever dealt with, in part because it doesn't feel like it should be such a big deal so you feel like you're losing your mind to be so bothered by it I hope you are able to eradicate yours soon--!
that goosedrunks episode with the spooky cruise is on my bedtime wind-down playlist lmao
I’m from Chicago and I would also pronounce ink and pink as “eenk” and “peenk”
the featherfin beached scene is written like a give yourself goosebumps bad ending which makes me want an equivalent horrifying choose-your-own-adventure series set in the serendipity universe
suddenly feeling very inspired to follow my dreams for some reason
As soon as you said New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, I remembered an episode where one of the mains gets trapped in a toy store that has evil/scary versions of the characters for sale. I vividly remember the theme song, and that one episode, because it scared me!
Dark story for kids: The Red Shoes Even darker story for kids: The Red Shoe Diaries
Ah! I hate when my fears get crows and make me disappear.
is that a pink tolly molly?
oh no it’s serendipity my mistake
The Chicken Run scene also traumatized me as a child, to the point that I never even watched the full movie until I was an adult 😭
I believe that I can still recite the whole New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh theme, and I like that song so much that it's the first song I think of when I think of Pooh
I owned that Winnie the Pooh Grand Adventure movie on VHS when I was a really little kid. I must've loved it cause I remember watching it a bunch. I also have vague recollections of that TV show too though I couldn't name a single thing that happened in it
The Courage epidsode, “Remembrance of Courage Past”, destroyed me. Seeing baby Courage’s parents get taken and seeing him try so hard to save them just to fail at the last second struck me in a way I had never felt before. I was 11 but I sobbed so hard my older sister came from down the hall to check on me. It always surprises me that no one else talks about that episode. It’s crazy how, in a horror series, the parental abandonment trauma episode is by far the most horrifying one.
I read so much Dear America as a kid including the one that episode was based on. The one I remember as extra disturbing was one where a girl works in a factory and another girl gets her hair and scalp ripped off by one of the dangerous machines. It was described in a graphic way and I remember being so scared of my hair bring ripped off afterwards. I guess thats ONE way to teach kids about the importance of safe labor practices, because of books like that I was always in favor or unions lol
I loved the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh! Not going to lie, still slaps on a sad grey day. Totally agree that the gang are better with slice of life small dramas- makes for totally peaceful watching
i too watched pooh's grand adventure (on vhs) and i've never heard anyone else talk about it! i do remember the drab, barren landscape they had to cross (and a rickety rope bridge that caused tigger to have an identity crisis) but i personally was haunted by the (to me, 20 minute long, but i'm sure it was actually like 90 seconds) sequence where pooh is wedged in an enormous crystalline structure inside the cave and he calls out for help but is only greeted with his echo. as if he might eventually die there in the cave, alone and trapped. i'm sure he does get rescued but i don't remember that part
That scene also haunted me for years as a kid!
That Disney channel movie where like your neglected imaginary friend turned into some horrifying monster always terrified me as a child
Huh, which DCOM movie was that? There was an attempt at that premise in a mainstream horror movie a few years ago.
For me the "I can't go back in the dark!" line from Jessie in Toy Story 2 always felt excessively tragic, in that it's just meant to express her personal fear of being abandoned again, but canonizes the terrifying mental image of millions of other toys just as intelligent as her trapped in horrific circumstances all over the world.
Jesse's rejection sensitivity really hit me as a kid. "What if Andy doesn't like me?" is the line that's burned in right next to her phobia dialogue in my head. The time under Emily's bed, and the time in the box, all of it happens because she wasn't loved. I don't think being behind the glass would've been any less lonely for her; I came to find it sad and even scary that she was so sure that the museum would save her. Hearing her say "Woody!" when he saves her, and watching her being happy in the end made me get a huge crush on her right along with Buzz; it was such a relief.
The Cars Road Trip ride in Paris is indeed so underwhelming! And such a weird choice to have it occupy so much of the land, too. I really wonder if there's a story behind how it came to be quite so bad.
I never thought I’d hear Jenny talk about Dinotopia, but so glad she did! I watched both the miniseries and the spinoff show as they aired, as I was a huge fan of Dinotopia growing up. I actually still have my plushies from that time. They made two from the books (“Lil Hadro” a Maiasaura and “Bix” a protoceratops) and Hallmark did a big collection as promotion for the miniseries and it was a collection of eggs featuring different chasmosaurus in different poses and colors (think 26 in the miniseries)
I watched that Winnie-the-Pooh show all the time as a kid and that theme song is one of the all time greats.
I must've heard it as a kid plenty, I saw a lot of Pooh Bear, yet it doesn't even feel slightly familiar.
Mine would be the episode of Eerie, Indiana where some kid get a massive nightmare retainer and realizes that now he understands dogs. And the dogs are actively conspiring to get rid of the humans. When they realize that he can hear them, we can see his shadow pursued by all the dogs in town. The next day the protagonists just find his retainer on the ground... It was dark and a bit mean spirited but it left an impression at least. Eerie Indiana was a very good show with a lot of artistic intent. It's a travesty that Goosebump was so much more popular.
Bite the hand that feeds us!
Another comment on rewatch to add - I had no memory of that geese movie until Jenny started describing it and suddenly my brain produced all these images of it, including the car crash scene. I think I must have seen it more than once as a kid and them completely forgot it. It seems like the kind of thing that would have aired on Canadian kids' TV midday on Saturdays. Now the real question is, is that a Horse Girl movie, just with geese?
i think it's about whooping cranes if i remember correctly from when it was shown to me in school which would make it a rare Crane Girl movie
Watership Down traumatised generations of kids in the UK. Still can’t watch it and I’m 48!!
that featherfin story is so sad...it feels like an almost direct response to a (disney) little mermaid sentiment of "disobey your overprotective dad, have adventures, find others who love you for who you are" instead of like. having the mother explain WHY featherfin can't go high above... fables made for parents to reassure them that never explaining their reasoning to kids is correct and justified
That Featherfin story reminds me of a story they read to us in school. A pet rabbit sits in his cage at the window and looks out far into the forest where it sees wild rabbits play. The pet rabbit wishes it could be with them and out of its cage but just then, a fox appears and the wild rabbits run in terror as they are chased. The fox approaches the pet rabbit at the window and the pet rabbit shivers in fear, but suddenly it realizes that it is completely safe. The fox cannot reach it in its cage. See kids, rules and regulations might often seem like a cage to you, but they are really just there to keep you save. No shit, that was actually the lesson there.
oh and speaking of pokemon, i think a moment from it that's underrated in how scary it is from the sun/moon games: (i guess this is a spoiler but the games are old now) when you find out lusamine has cryogenically frozen her pokemon because she wants them to "preserved forever" because of how "precious" they are, and you just see them staring forward encased in blocks of ice that she proudly displays in her weird room. i was playing the game like 'damn this lady crazy' 😭
come to think of it, the message of that story is basically the inverse of dinotopia. that's actually a big part of why i like it - i've also never liked those kids stories that are all about how everyone else is right and you're wrong and should shut up. the whole theme of this story is like "your parents can be wrong and hurt you, and you have the right to say so because you're also human and your feelings matter just as much as theirs do", and i think that's a much more useful thing for kids to hear. maybe it just took until 2016 for kids media to realize its messaging needed work lol
NGL Wondered why you were scared of Yoshi when I first saw the hat 😂 Love the running joke. Demon Headmaster lives in my head rent free. Kids TV show in the UK, a boarding school headmaster who could hypnotise the students. The music was so creepy x
my personal pick for unnecessarily dark kids' media moments is an awful scene from spongebob where squidward's nail gets messed up by a couch being dragged against his toe, and there's a reason i always think of it: there's a horror anime/VN i really like called Higurashi, and the most infamous and scary scene in that whole show (against stiff competition!) is one where the family of one of the teenage girls thinks she's embarrassed the family, so they do this torture where she has to tear off 3 of her own nails - the scene's so impactful not just because of the gratuitous violence, but because of the cruelty of her own family doing this to her (and the fact that she goes on a murderous revenge spree later on, and you're kinda like "well....can't say i don't get it") so i'm always just baffled by the fact that spongebob had a "comedic" moment that was similarly grotesque to an infamous and extremely tragic horror show scene 😭
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That body horror stuff from spy kids really horrified me as a kid i remember watching that whole movie with a pit in my stomach thinking about the human rights violations being suffered by the Floogleys 😭
As a child I really liked the (Dutch dubbed) show Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids. I also liked Ik Mik Loreland, which was shown is schools to learn reading and writing. A lot of kids were scared of the character Karbonkel, but those kids were cowards.
UK series called "Come Outside" of a eccentric older lady who flew a Polka dot plane with a dog called Pippin. I was a very "peril" based as a child and I used to get the stomach lurching dread whenever she took her and her dog in the plane. As an adult now I think of the exorbitant cost to the environment everytime she needed a pencil she'd fly to WHS smith.
Wow Jenny, you have such an incredible collection of unique and distinct green dinosaur hats!
I never finished 'fly away home' and have just remembered it now, because I was like 7 when I first saw it on TV and it scared me so much that I burst into tears and my mum turned it off haha
Holy shit that Winnie the Pooh theme punched me right in the nostalgia lol. Haven't even thought about that character in a couple decades, but I sang right along with it like it was yesterday. Man, some of those old kids shows had absolute BOPS for themes. I couldn't tell you a thing I remember about Dudley the Dragon or Denver the Last Dinosaur, but I can still belt out their theme songs, because they're incredibly catchy lol
This is quite gore-y and NSFW but I can't censor on patreon I think, so sorry, this is the official trigger warning. This topic was made for me, cause I recently remembered this book I read as a child (It's in dutch: "Voor wie pleeg jij een moord?", (Who would you kill for?) by Manon Sikkel) that's this cutesy romance for tweens about the new relationship of the MC that suddenly has an already quite out of tone death in the beginning and somehow ends with the murderer writing a book using the blood of her victim. I reread it cause I was like "surely I'm just misremembering" but no that's fully the plot. As an adult, it reads insane because scenes of "keeping her half alive to keep the blood fresh" are intercut with "He's so cute when he touches his hair, I can't believe he would like a girl like me"
I used to be a big fan of Mel Wallis-De Vries, who writes thrillers for children/teens, which I thought and think is cool.
It was absolutely not on my bingo card that as a Floridian I would spend a solid 10 minutes in my living room at 1am saying "ink" to realize I do say it like that
That tripped me out. I can HEAR she's saying something slightly different, but I can't seem to. say anything but eeeenk. 🤣
I fully sang along to the pooh theme tune it slaps. And the goosebumps book you're talking about you did with Bailey on her channel !
oh my god I can't believe I forgot, this shook me up so bad as a kid. i was a massive dog fan as a child and I watched Lady and the Tramp religiously and the scene where Lady ends up in the pound was so emotionally devastating to me. that fucking sad dog song? jesus christ. and then they just fucking kill a dog! like lady goes back home after the horrors of stray dog life, but that dog is dead.
Would like to contribute the Boo Box from Hook
Gang do we think the vitafusion iron was part of the deliberate set dressing or are fruit flies vulnerable to iron supplements 🤔
The Pooh series was big in Hungary, and my generation knows the lyrics of that song by heart :) The Hungarian version lyrics
There's a Serendipity book called Crickle-Crack where a squirrel named Squeakers gets addicted to drugs. There's a tree whose fruit gets you ridiculously high, and he gets addicted and there's a page where he's all strung out with red-rimmed eyes, going through Crickle-Crack withdrawls.
jesus
Featherfin was right, the surface was a mistake.
So funny you bring up the Grand Adventure movie. I have it on VHS to this day and would watch it at LEAST once a week and no one in class ever knew what I was referring to when I would talk about it
OMG, I watched Fly Away Home in the theater as a kid! I don't remember the car crash scene, I only remember the evil ranger(?) who was going to clip the baby birds' wings and the uplifting hanger glider scene. I'm pretty sure there was an animated or Muppet movie in the theater at the same time that I wanted to watch instead but the tickets were sold out. Here are my takes for unexpectedly dark / bummer kids content: - The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein. - That 80s Garfield special where Odie and Garfield get put in a pound and Odie is almost dragged to a backroom and euthanized, while a sad song plays and Garfield reminisces in montage about all the happy times they shared. - The 80s Transformers episode where one of the Autobots finds an Eden-like natural paradise and doesn't want to tell his friends about it because their war with the Decepticons is so destructive, but in the end both factions find the paradise valley, fight in it, and accidentally set it aflame. It ends with the Autobot, Beachcomber, staring at the carnage sadly saying "We won . . ." as his oblivious friends cheer in the background. I do like this episode, it's an anti-war message, which is pretty interesting for a show based around a robot civil war. - A Pokemon episode set in the Alola region where a Stoutland (dog Pokemon) dies of old age. Amazing episode but so, so, so sad. - The 2012-ish cartoon Transformers Prime. I love this show but they pushed the envelope SO FAR with the violence considering it was rated for ages 7 and up. Off the top of my head: eye trauma, a robot character gets killed via dismemberment, and an episode that starts with an Autobot violently beating Starscream to death. (Later in the episode it's revealed it wasn't "the real" Starscream, it was a clone of Starscream, but like . . . that was still a sapient being and it was a brutal on-screen death.) Also there are loads of identical Decepticons called Vehicons who exist only for the Autobots to kill them in cool action scenes. There's also a lot of dark stuff in various Transformers comics, but those are aimed at teens to adults, not kids. Edit: HOW COULD I FORGET!! The 1986 Transformers movie where Hasbro decided the best way to clear the old cast of characters / toys out would be to brutally kill them on-screen. This was especially jarring because there had been two previous seasons of the G1 Transformers cartoon where no one died, and then suddenly bots were dropping left and right as fire and smoke explode from their mouths. The TF movie came out the same year as the G1 My Little Pony movie and I always wonder what would have happened if they'd made the MLP movie with the same philosophy, instead of pretending that the ponies from the specials like Firefly, Posey, etc, never existed.
Dang, I was familiar with pretty much everything Jenny brought up, including The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and Pooh's Big Adventure. I swear that theme song hasn't left my head since I heard it. I didn't watch the Dinotopia miniseries, but did read the books as a kid. I'm kind of bummed to hear about the more authoritarian turn of the show. Iirc, in the books there was no rule about not being allowed to leave, people literally couldn't leave because the waters around the island were too dangerous to navigate and no one could make it. I'm pretty sure the main character does find a way to leave in the last book, too, and that's the in-universe explanation for why we're now reading about his experiences there.
Also yes, the original Thumbelina story is indeed like that. I looved that movie and the original story as a kid. I think just because she was tiny and had adventures. Didn't really think about the marriage stuff at the time lol
Speaking of the Goosebumps books, the one that had the biggest effect on me as a kid was The Ghost Next Door. In hindsight, it's a pretty tame one compared to a lot of the other books, but that book gave me my first existential crisis. The premise of it was that the main character suddenly had a new neighbor move into an abandoned house, and she's convinced that the kid is a ghost, but then the twist is that she actually died in a house fire and she's been the ghost the entire time. I read that when I was like 6 years old, and I spent like a month after reading it thinking about the possibility that I could be dead and not know it.
Brave Little Toaster. There was real menace in the earlier songs but nothing as disturbing as seeing the fun and uniquely designed car characters sing about their cool lives just before being systematically crushed to death before your very eyes.
I loved Pooh's Grand Adventure as a kid. I think it hit the sweet spot of being a little scary, but also the kind of fun adventure you could imagine yourself on as you walked across a log (or like, the concrete wheel stop in a parking lot). The part that's burned in my brain is when they get separated inside the skull and Pooh slides down into an crystalline pit. It's one of those scenes that's like Jenny said about Pikachu's Goodbye -- as a kid you feel like it's a ton of screentime, and you really get the impact as if he's going to be stuck there forever. But in reality it probably lasts about a minute.
i remember watching teen titans as a child and the relationship between slade and terra was always kind of dark and creepy to me, in a thumbelina kind of way iykwim
Same...I think maybe it was intentional to give viewers the ick, but still...
The one that got to me the most as a child was Clayton's death in Tarzan
and all the squids as well. dead dead dead
fruit flies are a plague upon the earth— i swear by pouring a bit of apple cider vinegar into a small container, mixing it with dish soap, then covering the opening with some cling wrap and poking some holes through it. works great at catching them
Oh my gosh that POOH MOVIE - I got traumatic flashbacks from when Pooh is stuck in the skull… Christ that was terrifying
Spy Kids freaked me out so bad as a kid. I'm creeped out now watching clips of it here
As someone who was obsessed with the Dinotopia books as a kid, that tv show was such a weird, icky letdown. I’m glad I didn’t see it until college, bc the part I hated the most was when Zippo tries to explain the beautiful, horsegirl-like bond between humans and dinosaurs but the brothers keep joking that it’s really bestality :(
Pausing as you start the Winnie the Pooh section to say DO YOU MEAN THE SONG??? I THINK ABOUT THAT SONG ALL THE TIME. I STILL KNOW THE WORDS but I feel like nobody else knows it!!
returning after the section to be sad that I was wrong haha, I was hoping someone would talk about it but I recommend people search it out, it's a nice song
A generational topic, and just fascinating for someone who, as near as I can estimate, is about twenty years your senior (I was almost finished with high school when the Super Mario Bros. live action movie came out and eschewed it because of late adolescent nerd elitism). I'm also new here, so I guess I need to go check out the other videos you reference to find *my* traumas. I wonder if I'll find mention of Dot and the Kangaroo, and its "The Bunyip Song," though. I might need one of my Godzilla figures to protect me if it shows up...
We had a Care Bears movie on tape that got watched many times. All I remember was some evil scientist or something using a freeze ray on everybody and the whole town.
I remember the theme song to Winnie the Pooh and I remember, VAGUELY, the skull/school thing.
IM SO GLAD SOMEONES FINALLY TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ADVENTURES OF WINNIE THE POOH
Jenny, I love your irritation with these conformist morals.
i read sooo many of those royal diaries books - the ka'iulani one was particularly bleak. karen hesse and alice hoffman were children's authors that wrote a lot of moody and bleak children's novels like the music of dolphins and indigo, some favorites
wanna add on my own memory: the Lidsville opening theme where the guy gets sucked into a hat. TERRIFIED me as a kid
There's a deleted scene that gives a bit more context to what the Professor Screweyes crow thing was about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdM5lWUBy9w
Hey, damn, you showed me a whole new layer of a very weird story that finally makes a bit more sense! Not logically, but emotionally, he must've feared they would eat him, and in his place of fear magic, it had only that fear to make come true. It also tells me his cope for his crow fear was capturing and commanding crows, not lovingly but ironfisted, which as a misguided cope was what led to his worst fear coming true. His spiel about the random nonsense horror of how undeserved the loss of his eye was makes me think that he must hate his brother visiting good things on children all at random. He was struck with bad luck for nothing, so why should THOSE children be happy? Why should the random factor in their lives get to be so good?
My favorite episode of The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was the one where they put on a Western play. Highlights include the Horse Thieves (“Horses who steal things. Comprendo?!”), Pooh Bear having a shootout in the saloon with a glistening ice cream scoop, and an out-of-control mine-cart ride through the desert.
Idk if I'd say favorite but an ep I reference surprisingly often is the one where there are imposters of Pooh and Friends in a pawn shop so they're like the evil twisted version of pooh, tigger, etc. Sometimes I'll see people with the energy of a twisted version. I think it was called "how much for that rabbit in the window"
Does anyone else think her hat looks a little like a green Boshi?
finally someone else who's watched poohs grand adventure. I loved that movie as a child, even though it also scared me - specifically the part where they go into the cave. I remember thinking how sharp the rocks looked, and being scared about the fate of pooh + friends
I keep hoping someone could identify this unreasonably dark story from my childhood: My parents used to get me cassette tapes for children's books as a read-along to a magazine. One story was about a kid in a snowy land looking for something, but he would encounter progressively larger snowmen. At first it was whimsical, just varying personalities pointing the kid the way to whatever he was trying to find. But by the last snowman, it was behemoth and laying on its back. The music was eerie, with high strung violins and deep cello mimicking like this huge, sharp icicle-mouthed whale of a snowman breathing in its sleep. But getting to that part always spooked me the most as a kid and the soundtrack is ingrained in my head.
Jack Frost 2
nice godzilla hat
I (my parents) bought my VHS of Pooh's Grand Adventure at Disneyland - I distinctly remember choosing between that and a video of the Main Street Electrical Parade. (I want to say it was at like the haberdashery in Fantasyland?) The worst part of the movie is actually after they enter the skull and they end up getting separated in a maze of... ice? Slippery crystal? And Pooh gets trapped in like a glass well it's impossible for him to climb out off and he just resigns to his fate of being lost there forever. Also the scariest Goosebumps is a late entry, the Haunted School, which similarly ends with everyone getting trapped forever in a constrained, nightmare, colorless world. I feel like that was a trend in at least 90s kids media and especially 90s kids horror like Goosebumps and Are You Afraid of the Dark, where death of the characters was usually not on the table, but instead there was some kind of limbo fate worse than death, which was, I guess, better?
As a kid, there was always something deeply upsetting to me about stories where the protagonist is thrust from the safety of their home and has to face the unremitting cruelty of the outside world in order to return back to it, but it's such a popular genre of kid's story! I remember hating Thumbelina, but it was Milo and Otis that really did a number on me. Thank goodness the Good Dinosaur didn't exist yet.
I do remember that Pooh movie, but there are a handful of other episodes I recall that either had a unusually dark or unusually emotional moment. The one I most remember is one where Pooh and company meet a toy that they think is a gift for Christopher Robin, a windup gorilla toy of some kind, who seemingly is the coolest toy ever and somewhat smug about it. They get depressed and are afraid they're going to get replaced but Christopher Robin reveals in the back half of the episode tbat it's a gift for somebody else, and this completely shakes the other toy to it's core, to the point where it like runs away and depressively pulls out the windup key powering it. While there is a happy ending, that moment of like the toy being so upset it didn't wqnt to be animate was haunting, let alone how crestfallen the 100 hundred acre wood toys seemed earlier.
I LOVE THE MANY ADVENTURES OF WINNIE THE POOH THEME SONG.
DINOJENNY 🦖🦕🦖🦕
I remember the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh lol that show was so fun, don't remember the movie though, go figure
also Hans Christian Anderson had very deep gender and sexuality issues, I feel like that's a pretty much accepted theme of his life and work
Did anyone else watch the animated film The Halloween Tree? It's from 1993. The premise is a group of friends who are about to go trick-or-treating see their friend Pip carried off in an ambulance (he leaves them a message saying his appendix ruptured). They're like, "that could be deadly!" and run through a spooky wood (?) to get to the hospital. But then they spot his ghost running through the trees. In my little child mind, I was like, they're too late and this kid is dead. The scene that really stuck out to me was when they chase his ghost to Paris and he's transformed into a gargoyle who can only speak in this horrifying gargly voice when water is rushing through it. The whole thing is dark and very weird. Now I feel like watching it again.
The only thing I'll ever remember about Halloween Tree is Clavicle Moundshroud. That name became an in-joke in my family for years. Heck, I still think it's kinda funny to say.
Man, with all the topical hats that Jenny wore for this video, I'm surprised she didn't have one for Super Mario Brothers. My best friend and I saw the live-action movie in theaters and were the exact right age for it, and we *loved* it. I'm sure it wouldn't hold up today, but nevertheless I feel compelled to defend its existence. As someone in the comments of another video about it said, it was a movie that made bold choices and stuck with them. Baffling choices, yes, but by God it made them.
I THOUGHT I HALLUCINATED POOHS BIG ADVENTURE thank you jenny!!!! im not alone! that weird icy skull cave thingy (a vivid memory to me that i also can't guarantee is actually what existed lmao) lives in my memory eternally!
Felt so seen with the Teen TItans Terra reference. I have also always found that episode to be disturbing.
Fly away home is on Tubi for free and I just rewatched the beginning, it wasn't how I remembered, but it's still very good/ sad
I remember almost every single one of these things from my childhood. The only Dear America I read had a girl crossing the Atlantic to America and the first few pages had her witnessing rolling the dead bodies of people she knew into the ocean.
Alright I know I should wait until I'm finished to comment BUT I gotta say, I feel so seen with the Dinosaur disgust and the terror of Spy Kids deformation. The little creatures being eaten deeply disturbed me as a little kid and to this day that show makes my skin crawl. During the deformation scene in Spy Kids, it was the first time in my life had to leave the theater (I was 8).
Definitely The Animals Of Farthing Wood (books and TV but here I'm mainly thinking of the animated series) for me. SO MANY things but the one that stands out is when Mrs. Pheasant (these are anthropomorphic, speaking characters we get to know) is shot, then Mr. Pheasant sees her plucked, roasted body cooling on a windowsill...and gets shot himself. That has stuck with me for over 30 years now. Also, obligatory mention of Watership Down, although at least in the UK for anyone over 30 that is arguably the single best known "traumatic children's media".
Oh god, The Animals of Farthing Wood. For me it was Mr and Mrs Hedgehog being killed when they had to cross the highway. From memory, they would instinctively curl up in fright at danger in most previous episodes, so then at the highway episode they knew they couldn't, because that would mean certain death. My stuck-with-me-for-30-years memory is the Hedgehogs holding hands at the edge of the highway, trembling in fear, with Mr Hedgehog saying "don't curl up... don't curl up!" before they get startled, curl up, and are immediately killed.
Such a bizarre moral. "Don't go exploring or try anything new"
I was anticipating Jenny would talk about watership down and the secret of nimh. Both scared me so much I turned them off and never watched them again, and also a version of animal farm scared me a lot. There are a bunch of others she didnt mention, i guess I was just an easily scared child. I do remember hating that Winnie the pooh movie, huge downer, also there is a song where Pooh dreams monsters are stealing his honey and I hated that lol oh and the second Babe movie was weird and creepy, very bad vibes
My parents confused "The animals of farthing woods" and "watership down" and left my brother and I to watch gravelled bunnies being torn apart. Terrifying 😨
Thanks Jenny for unlocking my suppressed memory of Pooh’s Grand Adventure which introduced me to existential dread as a child
That Dear America episode sounds like it was inspired by Olive Oatman, who was kidnapped along with her younger sister by Native Americans and later bought by another group of Native Americans (who seemed to treat both of the girls decently). But even then, she definitely didn't fall in love with a white boy while living with the Mohave Indians, so that whole detail is modern-day questionably racist bullshit.
mary jemison was another similar case which was turned into a children's book. i used to read it at my piano teachers house while my sister had her lesson; it was the only book she had that wasn't an avon catalogue or a board book so it got a lot of use
Why couldn't Feather Fin have been the story of the first fish to grow legs and walk on land and the sad part could be that his trailblazing meant leaving behind his familiar home??
i hope the fruit fly that crosses the camera at 33:33 meets an unreasonably dark and disturbing end
Thank you for someone talking about that Terra Teen Titans ending! That is the most formative tragedy of my childhood, and virtually no one knows or talks about it. You ever seen Vertigo? I feel like that's the adult version of the Terra finale plot.
The way I immediately teared up at The Time Has Come song.
The way I don't hear a difference between how that girl and Jenny say ink 😭
Thank you for reminding me of the cleopatra book with the shiny gold lining that I happily checked out from my elementary school library only to be horrified when all of her sisters were being violently beheaded at the behest of their father
I was absolutely obsessed with this book as a kid.
I’m American and the Dear America section of the video has me saying “ink” and “pink” over and over. I pronounce them with an “E” sound, like the actress in the clip and Ariana in Wicked. They sounded totally normal to me. But when I look up pronunciation audio it’s a shorter “I” sound like you said. So now I’m really confused, especially since I’m not from the east coast or Florida lol.
jenny talking about wanting to go to the fear circus made me realize shes just real world mabel pines and i love that for us and her both
girl the new adventures of winnie the pooh was my LIFE as a kid that song is seared into my heart, "i feel like no one knows this but me" then jenny darling we are but one mind
Can anyone tell me if they recognize this scene I partially remember. It was from a movie from the late 80s or early 90s and it was a movie about a cat. This cat's family moves away and leaves her behind with her kitten locked in a completely empty house. Then the house catches on fire and the cat has to carry her kitten up the chimney to escape! Does anyone know what I'm talking about?! Its been bugging me for years!
I just found out that the reason I've had so much trouble tracking this movie is because it was about a DOG, not a cat. It was the movie Scruffy! Let me know if you've heard of it!
In defense of Dinotopia, there was no safe way off the island for Karl Scott (the rebellious brother). The Dinotopians have technology equivalent to what western civilization had access to in the 14th or 15th century, minus seafaring vessels because they're not interested in communicating with the outside world. So the Dinotopians didn't have any way to safely cross the ocean or contact outsiders to come and rescue the Scotts, even if Mayor Waldo did decide to reveal his people to the world. There was a secret submarine vehicle that the villain, David Thewlis' character, uses to convince Karl into helping him; it's destroyed with the villain inside, so by the end of the story, there are zero avenues of escaping Dinotopia. So the brothers are in no way being held there against their will; it's just a natural consequence of being stranded on an island that is bereft of technology. I feel like even if there were ways for them to leave, though, the Dinotopians are right in not wanting the influence of the outside world. Their utopian society would not fare well intermixed in the modern world's global politics. Poachers and agents of various countries would probably try to steal the dinosaurs for research and posterity (and since many of the dinosaurs are sapient, this would be akin to a new kind of slave trade). Because the brothers are our protagonists, we obviously want what's best for them, but them escaping could have meant the possible collapse and tarnishing of entire cultures. I liked the realism that an entire culture would not consider destroying themselves for two outsiders who washed onto their shores. (yes, I understand it's a YA story, but kids deserve to have high quality stories too, and I feel like having one or both brothers return would spoil some of the magic) Their being on the island is posed as a positive thing for the brothers and their emotional growth and development, which is a critical part of the story. I feel like it could almost be a metaphor for when a family moves to a totally new town and the kids have to adjust to new friends and school. In that way, it represents something many kids are exposed to but wraps it in fantasy and adventure. The brothers not being able to escape mirrors how many kids never get to move back to towns where they once lived, leaving behind old worlds to confront new ones. In that way, I find it to be a fun story about permanently adjusting to alien surroundings. (also, at the end they find their father alive in a crystal cave, which in my opinion makes it a happy ending)
Just wanted you to know my 8-year-old calls you "The Allegedly Girl"
I absolutely watched the Winnie the Pooh movie when I was a kid and was also devastated. I remember feeling depressed for the first time in my life. I think we even owned it on VHS and I would never watch it because I hated it so much.
My anti fruit fly system, which works fairly well, is a night light shining up through the vinegar/honey/dish soap cup and a dangling glue strip above to catch the nosey ones who don't land.
AHHHHHH NEW RAMBLE I FORGOT FEBRUARY IS SHORT AF YAYYYY AHAHAHAHHA
thanks for making my weekend better jenny <3
It's crazy how, as a non-native speaker, so many of the apparent dozens of vowel sounds english has are the same to me. I could not tell anything wrong or different with the pronunciations of ink Jenny showed, even her own contrasting pronunciations
even to me as a native speaker the differences were very small lol, it might be a Californian thing
I loved were back as a kid and i showed my bf it recently who had never seen it and he told me he understands why im a little creepy now. We have a fear circus that comes to Savannah every year. It is in a black and white striped tent.
I'm from the East, and yes, that's how we pronounce ink. I had no idea anyone said it differently.
I do remember that Pooh Bear song! I just forgot what series it was from and I could never look it up
The final episode of the Dinosaur sit com apparently ended with a meteor coming down and killing them all which was. Certainly a choice.
Oh, I definitely watched The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh! My mom still gets the song stuck in her head on the reg. The one episode I remember clearly is that devastating one where Rabbit adopts a baby bird and eventually has to let her go free 😭
i'm loving all the callbacks to old patreon vids
The original Thumbelina story, according to Wikipedia: "Thumbelina is about a tiny girl and her adventures with marriage-minded toads, moles, and cockchafers."
When I heard there were fruit flies, I was hoping to see you frantically swatting the air at random times like Bob Evermore in that one livestream. Would have created a very calm and relaxing atmosphere I think.
I had the serendipity books handed down to me from my cousins as a kid and I loved them so so much, I'd reread them all the time but Morning Morgan specifically stuck with me so much as distressing, I think particularly as a horse girl it was upsetting but revisiting it as an adult it is so dark, but still a gorgeous book. Also I am so jealous of the serendipity plush she is so cute and I shall now be going on an ebay hunt for one.
She was not easy to come by! But when I learned there were plush I had to have it. I wish they made plush of more characters, especially featherfin. Afaik they only ever made a couple versions of serendipity and a couple versions of Leo the Lop
Since he seems to be hatless nowadays, here's a link to all of Goggy the Spider's hats throughout the years. https://imgur.com/a/xNhYSmU
Wowww it's so beautiful.. I will endeavor to give him more hats, it's only that I have to think of TWO hats for the topic for him and me. I worry when I just put a whole plush on him he feels like a table
Featherfin :(
I was a big Pooh’s Grand Adventure kid - we even had those glass Welch’s jars to use as drinking vessels. I recently watched it with my daughter and I can confirm as an adult it is indeed pretty bleak 😬
>flashbacks to tigerstar's death in the warrior cats series
the thing from that series that terrified me as a kid was that cat who got ripped up and disfigured by vicious dogs ._. even though there's tons of death and violence in that series overall, for some reason that one really stuck with me. maybe it's because it also happened off-screen? or because she survived and had to live with the pain instead of it being over quickly?
Woo-hoo! DC reference!
I was SUCH a little scaredy cat child, and one of the things I was afraid of was one specific dinosaur character. But she wasn't even meant to be scary at all! As a young German child, I grew up watching a lot of Augsburger Puppenkiste – a puppet theater company that puts on amazing productions, in person and also on film. We had a lot of their tapes. One of my favourites was a show about a baby dinosaur named Urmel who's hatched from a frozen egg in modern day. The show starts with a little intro back in dinosaur times, showing Urmel-mother walking through the jungle making dinosaur noises before going to sleep and being snowed on and never waking up again because of the incoming ice age. That's not the part I was afraid of! For some reason, I was afraid of Urmel-mother walking through the jungle making dinosaur noises. I'd literally wait outside the living room and have my mom call me in when Urmel-mother was gone.
Nice Dennis Hopper as King Koopa hat
i remember being so secondhand excited for your nastiness when i read about the forest themed store
The dinosaur hat bit really got me lol
I know, it's great how she keeps misidentifying her Godzilla hat.
Just rewatched Barbie and the Magic of the Pegasus and the scary traumatic scene from my childhood is when the man is turned into a Welcome Mat
No but that was legit so frightening !!!
I think you did a video with Bailey of Goosedrunks and you guys did the cruise ship book! I specifically remember that ending of starving to death and the boiling like lobsters
Not done watching but completely agree with Pooh’s Grand Adventure being so depressing! As a child I wanted to watch but just feeling it’d be sad
i just rewatched the terra episodes of teen titans yesterday. I used to hate the ending of teen titans but now I like the kind of melancholy of her ending. It feels very 90s anime.
The scary bleak Winnie the Pooh movie where they try to find Christopher Robin at skull is the Winnie the Pooh story I’ve seen by far the most. We got the vhs at a dollar general by my family’s cabin and that was often a rainy day watch.
Very sad ramble! I paused halfway through to look up Helen plush and she's so rare and expensive but oh I'd love to have her in my collection. Then I got to Feather Fin and got bummed out again :(
In Colombia we all grow up with a children's poem called "El Renacuajo Paseador" (The Wandering Tadpole) that's about a tadpole who, despite his mom's warnings, goes out to see the town. He runs into some mice that invite him to a party and for a while they have fun, but then some cats crash the party and eat all the mice. The tadpole manages to jump out and escape, but a duck catches and eats him. That is already dark enough, but the last verse in the poem is specifically about how his mother is now all alone and that specific line was so disturbing to me as a kid. So basically, Featherfin didn't have it so bad.
My brother absolutely loved Winnie the Pooh when we were kids and this video literally unlocked memories of Pooh’s Grand Adventure for me the second I saw the scene you were talking about. I also thought for a moment you were about to talk about the puppet TV show The Book of Pooh when you began to talk about the Pooh show you watched bc I couldn’t remember the name of that show for the life of me. I had to google what it was even called bc I remember having a VHS tape of it.
I keep getting invested in these characters before remembering the title of the video 🥲
I just wanna say not only did I watch a ton of Pooh's Grand Adventure and the new adventure's of winnie the pooh, when you said "I feel like no one remembers that show or the theme song," I started singing it out loud to myself before you showed the clip. I had VHS tapes of that show that I watched all the time as a kid
My sister banned us from watching Pooh's Grand Adventure because it was too sad and she would sob (so would I to be fair). I haven't seen it since I was very little but can still recount the depressing song a cave-trapped Pooh sings "I've hung a wish on every star, it hasn't done much good so far" and "I'm empty and I'm cold, and my heart's about to break, come and find me". It's soooo messed up for a silly ol bear
I don't necessarily want to dip my toe into fully weighing in on the "what counts as reasonable vs. unreasonable darkness" question vis-a-vis parent death in children's media, because i do agree that the baseline expectation should not be "children's media should never address or depict anything sad". However, I will say that the lion king was the first movie i ever saw in theaters (it came out when i was 3), and mufasa's death scene was quite literally my first experience with the concept of death or dying, and that i was sitting next to my own dad when i saw it happen. so between the realization that people can be hurt so badly that they stop existing *and the fact that this can happen to dads*, and hey i have one of those, i became so inconsolable with sobbing that my parents had to escort me out of the theater. it was not until a couple years later that i ever saw the second half of the lion king.
