Ramble: The Horrors of Low Budget 80s/90s Fantasy for Kids

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Oh. I hadnt read the desc. abt the yt mirror before now, and i posted a kinda whiney comment abt my tech issues on another vid. Idk why i thought it was on jennys end. Im sorry jenny. I love aragogs hat.

Those scenes from the Polar Bear King seem like a fake movie that would be on TV in the background of a sitcom.

22:23 I was very thrown by the beginning of Rumpelstiltskin bc it looks so Australian lol, I've never seen so many gum trees in a fairytale (I realise there are introduced eucalyptus trees elsewhere lol, I looked it up and I think the movie was actually filmed in Israel, but in my head European trees=fairytale and gum trees=my Australian primary school, so it's just jarring!)

Your fear of plague doctors being in your garage reminded me of my childhood fear of hobos in my air ducts.

The idea of recognizing Billy Barty as the voice of some theme park mascot Glup Shitto and not the other way around is amazing - he is one of the most famous and accomplished little person actors of all time.

Looked up Magic in the Mirror on IMDb and the Tansy actor (Kevin Wixted) was on China Beach as "Sad Man." Important

I'd say forget the YouTube mirrors, patreon player has improved

With Labyrinth, in the end she did not give up her whimsical ways, a big point was that she will still need them at any given point. However, she did learn to balance it with the real world, since she allowed her baby brother to use one of her toys. I saw it recently for the first time and just thought "Yes. Whoever made this understands what it is like to be a girl that is into fantasy and spends a lot of time daydreaming."

I read a lot of folk/fairy tales and you can rest assured that the "my spouse told me not to do a thing, but i did it anyway and now i've lost them" is a gender neutral archetype. One of the more well-known (i think) stories is the one where the wife tells her husband not to take off the ribbon around her neck, and when he does, her head falls off. I like Alice in Wonderland, but it's more of a social/political commentary than it is a children's book. Or at least it's equally both. The reason all the characters are so mean to her is because they're all self-important, condescending adults lol. I feel like adaptations focus a lot on getting as much Wonderland in the movie as possible, but they would really benefit from a Wizard of Oz (movie) type of framing device where the characters in Wonderland are direct parallels to people that Alice encounters in real life. There are so many adaptations that i'm sure at least one of them does this, but the majority are focused on aesthetics and the isekai of it all I very much like that none of the objects in my house are sentient, but if i had to pick, i'd pick the living room stereo, though i'm worried it wouldn't like my music taste. If i had a kettle or a tea pot, i think either of those would be an ideal sentient housemate

The Polar Bear King is on dailymotion in English 😭😭!!

Ok I watched the Willow show and actually liked it! I get that it wasn't the same as the film but I liked the performances and had a good time watching. I don't understand why Disney took it down, surely just leave it up and let people discover it on a rainy day...

A good older example of off putting human faces instead of cute animal mascots is Alice in Wonderland 1985

I think it could be fun to have a living microwave oven puppet.

If one of my household objects could become animated I’d choose my electric tea kettle. I’ve had it for years, so it’s like we’re friends already. Only downside is I’m not sure how an animate object would feel about being full of boiling water.

Genuinely shocked that Jenny Nicholson doesn't have the name "Billy Barty" immediately ready-to-hand

I love the weird and unsettling fantasies, but I am also 42 and I think a lot of the childhood movies in my most formative years had that unsettling feel in some way. The last unicorn, Return to oz, The Neverending story, labyrinth. Maybe its just what I ended being exposed to, but I enjoy those type of movies more then something like the original wizard of oz.

expanding on the framework jenny laid with the beauty and the beast theory, i propose the labyrinth theory thusly: if the horrifying dangerous fantasy world has a sexy or silly antagonist, the story becomes tolerable

My vote is not to alter your approach to accommodate YouTube. Patreon player could still be improved, but it's perfectly acceptable, and the lack of ads makes Patreon my preference anyway.

I wonder if anyone was thinking about Laird Barron's the Crowning when Jenny was talking about Rumpelstiltskin?

"Don't you know that in only three months the curse would have been broken?!" "Well, I would have if you had mentioned it maybe."

“Just imagine seeing an empty human suit hanging from a hook on the wall” Why imagine it when I can just go to my secret room?

You should check out Phelan Porteous' stuff on obscure kids media

Reminds me of Hans hedgehog from the storyteller

Can I just say I felt so vindicated by your thoughts on Alice in Wonderland because I feel exactly the same way. Every Alice in Wonderland story or inspired story is just a kid wandering through a nonsense world with stupid or mean people constantly harassing her. And it's CRAAAAZY and WAAAACKY and nothing makes SEEEEENSEEE and like snore. Who cares.

I was inspired by Jenny bopping to the Basil Hears a Noise theme. I finally got around to making it a karaoke track. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/5IB9xGQBMXg?si=2jiLvJcVkK5go3m-

FWIW I had the same reaction as the people in that Reddit thread when I looked it up and saw Magic in the Mirror was a Full Moon movie directed by Ted Nicolaou, both well known names in the world of low budget 90s genre schlock. It would be the equivalent of hearing about some wildly ambitious entertainment space concept that only delivered 5% of what was promised before slowly going bankrupt and then learning it was created by Ken Bretschneider. Like…well, yeah, that tracks.

this aesthetic reminds me of the 90s journey to the west tv show

I would rather have the nicer, higher effort videos on Patreon than the YouTube mirror if it causes problems. But I enjoy your work either way and would still watch.

I’m fine with patreon as a back up but prefer YouTube.

The baby is a main character on the Willow show. The cliffhanger is something else. You can find it, if you know where to look.

I do think that Labyrinth's ending could be interpreted more positively? Once Sarah is alone in her room, putting some items which remind her of her adventure in a drawer, all her friends from her adventure show up in the mirror to speak to her, telling her that if she ever needs them, they'll always be there for her. And she says she does need them - right now, in fact. Every now and again, she still needs them, and always will. And then they all show up and have a dance party in her room! The point being that while Sarah needed to mature, that doesn't mean she's stopped needing the comfort of childhood; both can co-exist. Her room is actually still full of cute toys (I checked), and I think she's mainly putting away a few things like the Goblin King book and some photos of her mother. Given that missing her mother contributed to her resenting her stepmother, even though she's a perfectly nice woman who's making an effort with Sarah, was an issue for her, this represents her letting go of the past and being ready for a new start. I think it's a really lovely coming of age story for a teenage protagonist, learning to balance the nostalgia for childhood with coming adulthood, and that's not to mention all the sexual awakening metaphors! With Jareth serving as a sort of sexual fantasy: an older man a girl finds attractive and a bit frightening, but in a completely safe environment where all she has to do is say the magic words (you have no power over me), and then it will all end. ...Oh dear, now I am thinking that it's a bit like a G-rated version of a sexual fantasy with a safe word! My mind always takes these odd turns.

My animated puppet would be my dishrag. I hate doing dishes, but he would love it, so he'd be a perfect foil for me. And anytime I was losing an argument with him, I could just plunge him into the dishwater and whatever he was saying would get cut off with a goofy burbling noise. Overall, our relationship would be a little chillier than the cordial relations of the sheepdog and wolf in Warner Bros. And I could secretly bring him along in my pocket if I was going on a date but didn't know how to act.

So here's the thing that burns my buns about Wizard of Oz adaptations, and that is how every modern version treats the 1939 musical as the original text. I know I'm in the minority in having been brought up on the books, but OZ IS A REAL PLACE IN THE BOOKS and there's none of that analog-character and-you-were-there-too it-was-all-a-dream business. That's what makes the whole electro-shock prologue in Return so disappointing, because so much of the rest of that film is a loving and accurate translation of the later books.

oh. my god. I remember that museum exhibit with the plague doctor mannequin. VIVID memories of being terrified by that thing. It must've been a touring exhibit.

I actually love the Patreon player

I've just reread the Wizard of Oz and the point you mentioned about goofy sidekicks is spot on. In the book it's even clearer that they're are all like...adults? Goofy adults for sure but it's a bit of a relief when they show up and 10-year-old Dorothy is no longer just wandering around on her own. It's made a point that the Scarecrow and Tinman don't sleep/eat and spend a good portion of the book keeping watch and gathering food for the hapless child they've acquired.

So nostalgic and hilarious! One (big-budget) film that left me with nightmares—but like, the weird, abstract kind—was The NeverEnding Story. I haven't watched it since I was a kid, and I don't know if I want to.

I think the main reason I use YouTube instead of patreon to watch videos is that I can cast them to my television; am I silly? is there an easy way to do that that I have overlooked?

the noise i made at 'never go full tansy' lmaoo

Ah I watched magic in the mirror as a kid and it scared me so bad I had nightmares. truly even into adulthood I would think sometimes about a movie where ducks tried to kill a kid and make them tea but I could never find it. So validating to hear you say you think this would’ve haunted you because it definitely haunted me lol

I tried to watch "Magic in the Mirror." Especially the scene you described about steeping the tea with living creatures. And the duck queen. I have no words. It's "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" if CS Lewis was fighting a losing battle against methamphetamines, a parasitic brain worm and late-stage rabies.

I love the inclusion of end of video discussion questions omg

I love the clips

Revisiting this video to share with my friend my absolute delight at Jenny's horror of the muppet and description of the muppet skins - I wonder if her 'similar to my previous ramble' statement was meant to be followed up with how it's hard to remember every movie you've ever seen!

I bought a slimey plush on ebay before I finished the video <3

i watched this video and then i went to work at my theme park and i saw a guy with that same worm and i said wiggly worm!!! he said thanks

WHOA! I did not know that Billy Barty was the voice for figment! He was a popular entertainer when I was growing up (1970s) and he used to run a roller rink in a local town that had regular roller skating during the week and punk, metal, and rock bands playing on the weekends during the 80s. Loved going there!

I adore Jenny but we were clearly very different children. 😂😂 I don’t think I watched any of these as a kid but the only one I would have liked is Magic in the Mirror. I actually would have LOVED it around the time it came out. (I was about 4?) It’s a shame I didn’t know about it at the time. I was also obsessed with the Dinosaurs sitcom. I always had a VHS tape from the series checked out from my local Blockbuster. Still frequently reference that show to my mom… because she’s the only one who ever gets the references… Firmly believe it was underrated as a satire.

i didn't even know you could watch these on youtube lol :-D while the patreon player is mildly annoying at times, i'd much prefer this over restrictions you'd have making these videos :-)

I think that if I could have an inanimate object played by a puppet following me around I think I'd have to go with an alarm clock. Instead of beeping annoyingly it could be like "Hey friend! Don't forget, you still need to finish your laundry!" This is also part of my pitch for a children's show about a character with ADHD lol

I don't think I've ever actually seen Magic in the Mirror, but the trailer on the Harriet the Spy VHS is etched in my mind forever

The part with the well maintained grass in the Duck section reminded me of when we filmed a movie for uni. It was a post apocalyptic stoy so in early spring we scouted this awesome shut down industy plant/steel manufactury in germany that was converted to a public park. It was rusty and dusty and brown. But when we came back to film in summer everything was green and blooming because of course the city was maintaining the public park so we filmed our dead planet sory im front of all the lush hedges and bushes 😭

I've been watching a lot of these videos on youtube on my phone while washing dishes and stuff. the patreon video player is a lot more finicky with my phone. so I like the youtube mirrors for that reason but it wouldn't be the end of the world to lose them

With all that in mind I'd say the Patreon mirror is preferred. Can easily use it on my phone so its really no issue.

i really prefer the youtube mirrors because i can watch them on my tv while i do other things, but i would rather have copyrighted clips so if they're not practical then patreon video player is epic, actually

IS THAT THE REAL MAGIC BOOK LMAO

Omg I didn't realise the barbie video was going to be about the animated movies! So many of the earlier ones are chefs kiss

The most nightmarish example of the "costume with a human face" thing is definitely a short from 1975 called The Christmas Tree, about christmas trees with human man faces sticking out of them, leering over children in their houses and then slowly dying and then being discarded on the road. It's one of the most nightmare fuel things I've ever encountered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntd0K2y9SYA

In Canada we actually say basil like baysil too. I think it was just a choice for his name

I like the youtube links because I prefer to watch via my Roku box. I much prefer watching on a TV screen to a monitor. Plus, with my phone and Roku setup, I can;t cast from my phone without buying additional hardware.

My preference is YouTube because I’ve had a lot of issues with getting the Patreon player to cast to my Roku tv vs using the YouTube app which always works.

I started using the Patreon player over YouTube since last year, because I was getting ads. I use it on my phone and it works swell!

I don’t mind the Patreon player, especially if it’s causing issues to use a youtube mirror. I like the clips, but I also sometimes re-listen to these as podcasts, so I don’t mind a talking-only video. Thank you Jenny

If any object in my life were replaced with a puppet version of itself, I think it might have to be my 3D printer. It's got such a personality already, failing in spectacularly messy ways (just Google 3d printer spaghetti) and making wonderous and fantastical creations in equal measure. Plus, it sets me up for living in a bob the builder esque universe, where anything can be solved through a combination of DIY crafts and teamwork - basically my version of heaven.

Holy crap, Jenny was not kidding about Magic in the Mirror. I loved her breakdown of the movie here, I probably listen to this video every day since she posted it, and I just had to see just how bad Magic in the Mirror was. It's very boring and drab, the ducks are absolutely hideous and the whole tea is so damn disturbing. I don't find Tansy as annoying, I mean he is annoying, but I actually find his boss insufferable with his terrible accent. I haven't finished the movie yet, but I understand why she wouldn't want to watch the sequel. I would've given up in the first ten minutes, I'm about an hour in, I'm only following through because I love her summary of this movie. I was hoping it'd be a funny bad movie watch, but it's just boring and ugly.

This reminds me of how I watched all of the Swan Princess films to death as a kid. In hindsight they had a big impact on me but I kinda wish I'd watched something better lol

Apologies if someone has already mentioned this, but The Hugga Bunch movie has a number of weird similarities to Magic in the Mirror—a young girl transported into a magical world via a mirror, an antagonist queen, a mission to get magical berries. Though Hugga Bunch features puppet children (and a couple other puppet characters iirc).

I love the clips!!! The patreon video player is totally fine!

Have you ever seen the made for TV movie Hugga Bunch? It had a toy tie in, but the puppets are pretty unsettling lol

I love clips!

i would pick my oven to have a face, and the door would be its mouth and when i opened it to put my food in it would go "om" and then when i took the food out it would go "bleh"

My only issue is that I like watching your videos on my TV, and Patreon doesn't support the Chromecast protocol. I can screen cast but the quality is terrible 😔

I would want my bedside lamp to have a face so I can ask it to blind me whenever I try to take a midday depression nap. And maybe it would have those 70s beaded tassels on the lampshade that sway when it dances and go shakashakashaka

Love the Evermore Q&A Livestream reference where you interrupt the narration by randomly swatting at a fly

Omg the mirror movie. My husband and best friend watched the sequel to it. Nowhere on the vhs cover did it say it was a sequel, but they do like a cartoon styled "on the last episode" summery of the first movie. Lord it was such a fever dream experience.

Tubi is the best streaming service fr if you’re a fan of horror pls do yourself a favor

There's a shot of a Rumplestiltskin animatronic, like at a fairy tale park! With Jenny's voiceover! WHERE IS THAT?!

When I was doing children's theatre we did a production of rumplestiltskin where I was the bird you talked about, who essentially had the story you proposed. I also played rumplestiltskins shadow who didn't really do anything but was important enough to have a duet with rumplestiltskin

I didn't even know they made a movie of the fairytale of the White Bear King Valemon in the 90's, and I'm Norwegian, so it's not very famous here. This is despite the main character being played by Maria Bonnevie, who's a very famous actress here. I guess that would explain why it's so difficult to find nowadays.

Please keep posting YouTube versions. I work outside in an area with no internet access and I use YouTube premium to download the Patreon videos so I can listen to them at work. AFAIK there is currently no way to download Patreon videos directly from Patreon (though if there is I’d love to know), so I wouldn’t be able to listen to your videos when working!

If Youtube is causing problems, I say skip it. People pay for Patreon so they can see your uncensored content. Would you ever consider switching to Nebula instead? Also your asking what part of my home I would want to turn into a puppet? Literally nothing! If my wardrobe started talking and "held me" I would scream.

I was terrified of E.T. as a kid - it looked like it was made out of cooked meat and it was awful and I hated it - my grandmother misguidedly got me a plushie of E.T. after we saw the movie and I exiled it to the closet but I was so scared it would come out. ALSO from E.T. I was terrified of the guys coming through the windows in HazMat suits, but I feel ike that is a justified fear

I have always disliked Alice in Wonderland and it absolutely terrified me as a child. Like "instilled existential dread in me" levels of terror.

Love ur videos :D

tubi is my favorite streaming platform for the same reasons you described, cheap old movies, but most stuff that is recommended to me is things I'd love to watch. I truly think they have more variety of content than most of the other streaming sites

If you're in London, visit Phantom Peak the immersive town with actors/puzzles.

I, a 31 year old, am terrified of every single movie you talked about. I have realized I might have a fear of puppets/puppet like costumes

I wish my Wacom pen would be my puppet friend. They work across all of Wacom's product line so I wouldn't have to worry about not being able to upgrade, it's portable so I could take it on adventures, and I feel like it could give me drawing advice as I work or neg me to draw and practice. If I'm being picky I want it to have a Boston accent and talk to me like an 80s hair stylist. For my own amusement.

I feel I need to answer the discussion question because I work at a transportation museum with a very big train and it's very easy to me because obviously the answer is the very big train

God, I love the Willow series. I don't know if Jenny would! It's got a lot of edginess at points, but I do think it's still incredibly earnest where it counts.

I am happy with the Patreon player!

I do really like you showing the content to more easily show what you’re talking about in videos, I would prefer you just stick to using the Patreon player for videos. I only watch the videos via YouTube because the pinned post links to the YouTube uploads!

Muppets Classic Theater from 1994 is a great one to watch from my childhood. Muppets, music, fairy tales, and another appearance of those lamb puppets!

My purple shark vacuum. Easy. She would be such a cutie and get excited to eat dust and piles of dog hair

personally I prefer youtube because I can watch it on my TV and sync it with my phone easier if I want to listen to rambles when I go to sleep.

I'm totally fine with using the patreon player instead of YouTube. Especially if it means being able to use copyrighted material in the videos

I used to watch a movie calles We sing. I LOVED IT. Watched the vhs twice a day... now i think.. wth.

jenny keeps saying tanzy is gross or ugly and i assume that's why she can't stand the movie, but im here like....... uhhh hear me out..... 🫣

Patreon currently trying to gaslight me by telling me they don't support chromecast, like I haven't just used it in Patreon TODAY. I tried to ask them to make it less unreliable so it wouldn't disappear for months at a time and they responded by telling me they didn't have it at all 🙃 I was like sir, what am I looking at right now then? So this is going well 😂

Omg I’ve seen that Rumplestiltskin movie! I remember watching it as a very young kid with my mom! Shit, I’ve not thought about that in ages. Thanks for confirming that it wasn’t a fever dream! Damn 😆

I'm sure it's been said here already, but Rumplestiltskin is Billy Barty, a fine actor who you may know from Willow, among many other things. He certainly deserves a lot more recognition than Dinklage for all the social work he did; Dink seems to want a monopoly on little person acting roles, as you point out by calling him the "only" little person currently working, while Barty promoted opportunities for everyone.

I would love my hutch desk to be a plushie with magic. That way my desk would know to cover me with a blanket or wake me up when I fall asleep on my laptop.

The only problem I have with the patreon player at this point is no downloading for offline viewing. I drive through areas with no cell service sometimes and like to have some long videos accessible. I hope they add something like that in the future.

hope this isn't weird to say but you look extra pretty in this video jenny!

I would have my tea kettle be a puppet, as long as it talked. So that way I could have a cup of tea and we could chat. But NOT if it screamed a lot.

I feel like patreon player is better than YouTube, from the viewer end? It is for me, at least, bc I don’t have to have to pay a subscription or have my vpn on for Picture in Picture to work.

I cried laughing at the description of the 90's gingerbread man before you showed the ducks! fantastic

I’m Canadian and I pronounce it like “baysil”

My sister & I pulled the heads off our dolls so we could play Headless Mombi and let me tell you, the school will call your parents in for a meeting.

As long as I can watch it in a little picture at the top of the screen, I’m cool. And Patreon seems to be doing that now so it’s all good.

magic in the mirror should have left them stuck in the magic world in order to set up a much grittier crime drama sequel where the father is prosecuted for murdering his wife and daughter

Anyone else pause the video to ponder if I was randomly stabbed in the guts in 2025 watching this video what my chances of survival would be? Just me? Fun fact Tansy flowers were used in medieval times as a flavoring for food, it was toxic and can cause brain damage.

One of the main reasons why I love Alice in Wonderland is because everyone is insane, growing up I’ve always felt like the odd one out, and as an adult I especially feel like everyone is insane and running with conspiracy theories. The world doesn’t seem to make sense a lot of times. With that said, absolutely loved this video, I feel like your Patreon videos keep getting better and better!

I think youtube mirrors are fine but not worth extra effort. Patreon is the default if there's issues with the youtube mirror, youtube is the default and if there's issues just deal. This is how I treat my other patreons that do youtube mirrors like Trap Lore Ross

being weirdly scared of specific things when you're a little kid is so real. I must've been about 4, and the night we had gone to a train convention, I had a nightmare that I got arrested by a riot squad of cops for trying to get into said train convention after hours. Naturally, I was then scared of trains for the next year or 2. Not cops. Trains.

I'm personally fine with sticking to Patreon when it comes to the rambles! When I saw the ramble theme, my first thought was Troll and (mostly) Troll 2, but I guess it's moreso horror than "kid fantasy movie". Also for the inanimate object as a puppet question... I think I'd say the lamp in my kitchen? It would probably feel nice and fun to being watched by a puppet while I cook and do the dishes I think.

I just click on the mirror ‘cause I’m used to YouTube. I like the clips, so if here’s where the videos are here’s where I’ll watch them. If one inanimate object in my daily life was replaced with a puppet with a face… Maybe my electric kettle? It could boil water for me in the morning so it’s ready when I come down, and then we could chat over coffee or tea in the mornings and evenings!

I'd personally prefer fewer clips- I don't mind the native patreon player but I think the video is more entertaining when you verbally translate the unique absurdity/charm/horror of the subject. Especially when it's niche and the audience might not be familiar, it helps the storytelling when you walk through the media from your own POV.

I've only used the YouTube mirrors because I usually just listen to the rambles on my phone, and sometime the Patreon videos wouldn't or won't play in the background. But I have YouTube Premium, and so I can always watch add free in the background there.

I think I would like my sewing machine to be a puppet, because it could encourage me to keep going on a project and let me know if it needs cleaning or if I'm using the wrong needle. (As far as YouTube mirrors, I do find them useful for watching on my smart TV, but not so useful that I wouldn't watch videos on here if they weren't mirrored. And I watched this one here because the convenience wasn't worth missing any content.)

I'd probably want a sentient doorbell because slowly the doorbell would learn who I do and don't want to get the door for, and can ring or not ring accordingly. Plus it would be nice to hear a "Good Morning" every time I leave for work.

It doesn't really bother me to watch this through patreon because I typically watch these on my phone at work haha. Much prefer having clips from the actual media as well! Not being able to cast them can be annoying if I'm choosing to watch them at home, but not really a deterrent since I can just pull up patreon on my computer.

I would want my sofa to have a face so it could comment on what I'm watching on TV. It'd be so cute we would have a watch-party everyday!

You know I've been a patron for a minute here and I haven't been able to find where we vote on these videos!

the youtube mirror link allows me to cast these videos to my TV, i don’t have a working computer so without this i have to watch on my phone, which usually just results in me not watching at all

I definetly appreciate youtube mirrors as my wife and i have a big ramble playlist that we shuffle as our "doing separate things away from the TV in the same room" background-- obviously we'd survive with what we already had, but its nice to keep adding to it!

Jim Henson's The Storyteller is visually beautiful and often silly. A must-watch.

I feel like if i had a lamp-puppet with a face that would be very on theme. My purse already has a little face (squishable mothman purse) and i already have quite a flew plushies and dolls so... next up, light fixtures.

I like YouTube because I can download the video with premium, but I don't want to compromise any content in the ramble so patreon will be okay!

I swear there was a video about the dark crystal on youtube, did it get deleted or does anyone know in which video she talks about the movie?

If Jenny said she’d been to a magical fantasy land filled with whimsical talking animals, we’d all say, “That’s probably true.”

We are on Patreon so people need to get used to the player. I'd much rather get a video exactly how you want it to look rather than an edited YouTube version

I am okay with losing YouTube mirrors if it means keeping copyrighted content as a potential as I love when you commentate on movies and it can provide important context! :)

This might be kind of a cop out, but the thing I'd like to be a friendly puppet sidekick is my childhood blankie. Her name is Blankie and we were inseparable my entire childhood. She is pink and white stripped with tiny little green flowers and white lace edges. My grandma made her for me when I was born and I used to gather up one of her corners to make her talk, so she would look kind of snake shaped, or like she had a little snout! She's a bit tattered from sleeping with me every single night literally until I moved out of my parents house, so she lives nice and folded up in my closet now, but she's my bestie and I'd love for her to follow me around like a little magic carpet. She's 28 years old! Omg

The reason why Return to Oz is so much darker and the characterization is so different from the original movie, is because it's almost painfully faithful to the book. The original Wizard of Oz movie is a pretty loose adaptation, it took a lot of creative liberties to make it palatable to the general public The Oz books are just deeply disturbing through and through. I was obsessed with them as a child, and Return to Oz is my alltime favorite movie from my childhood, so I feel like I need to defend it. It's good I swear!!

I am definitely thankful for the inclusion of clips in the rambles and hope you keep adding them in. I hadn’t heard of any of these movies so I can really enjoy your commentary much more with added context

I'm here to say I loved the willow tv show. For sopme reason I don't understand it's on dvd on ebay and I bought it and it's totally some bootleg from china.

im totally chill with the patreon video player especially if it means enabling you to put this amount of effort into ramble videos when you want to

i generally prefer youtube, but it wouldnt change much for me if you just did patreon

I only prefer the YT mirrors because Patreon's video player doesn't have a cast feature. Casting a whole screen/page from a phone/laptop is kinda annoying. If you have any sway with the Patreon team to nudge them on incorporate a cast feature, I'd have no problem migrating to using the Patreon video player instead

The thing in my daily life i would want to be an adorable puppet companion is my scissors. They'd still function as scissors, but they would delight in cutting paper for me, and they'd be comfortable to hold.

I was also a scaredy cat kid and loved Labyrinth. I want to say the puppets were reassuring, but that can't be it because I found Fraggle Rock and Eureka's Castle creepy... Maybe it's just the power of Bowie?

I had scrubbed Magic in the Mirror from my brain. You've unlocked so many memories! As a kid, I loved anything slightly dark, weird or obscure. Bonus points if it was weirdly creepy. The duck people drinking people tea was just disturbing enough to lock me in. It was up there with Labyrinth for me. Plus, mirror minder?? Are you kidding me? What a title! It's just fun to say lol! I also think Tansey loosely reminded me of a way less hot version of James McAvoy's Mr. Tumnus from Narnia who I definitely had a crush on as a kid. Damn, do I need to go rewatch Magic in the Mirror???

I much prefer a youtube mirror, because the pausing/rewinding works better and other conveniences ... and the rambles with clips are personally my least favourite anyway. Because I like to fall asleep to them (which is a compliment, it's soothing), I can't listen to the ones with other audio that might be noisy or startling. (maybe you could mirror the normal rambles, and not mirror the clip ones?)

I don’t know if it was technically a kids’ movie, but Ridley Scott’s Legend freaked me out as a kid. I *think* it is puppet-free unfortunately, but it is unicorn heavy

I would prefer you make the ramble video how you want, with clips if applicable, and not have the YouTube mirror. The Patreon player works well for me

The object I would choose to animate would be my ceramic graduation duck piggy bank. Food might be expensive though...

The part where the puppets' costumes are hanging on the wall made me think of an old live-action Moomin tv-show I watched as a kid. It was people in costumes, but there was some idea that you couldn't trick children into thinking things like that existed that made the tv channel demand they show that it's humans inside and the result was an episode where Moomin and his family visit the king and aren't allowed to wear their heads - so they TAKE THEIR HEADS OFF AND HANG THEM ON HOOKS ON THE WALL. Messed me up pretty good.

I love the snake that sits on Aragog that's looking directly into the camera ❤️

In case Jenny or anyone else reads this, if you’re having trouble finding a rare or old movie on streaming, I recommend checking out Scarecrow Video. They’re located in Washington state and have the largest physical collection of movies in the country, which they’ve recently started to rent out by mail the way Netflix used to. The shipping costs can be a little high depending on where you live, but the flat price to rent is less than five bucks. If you’re really into film or want to watch something obscure and don’t mind paying a little bit, I highly recommend them!

I love having the rambles mirrored on YT for a bunch of reasons — first, because I watch your content a lot and it’s great to have them in my history so I can go back and watch again. Also … Screen mirroring for me is very jerky — tried to cast last month’s ramble but it was impossible to listen to. So I watched it on my phone but got a headache 😅 that always happens when I watch something too long on a phone screen 🤷🏻‍♂️ All that said, I support not because I’m “buying rambles” but because I love the content and want to support. I’d support even if there were no rambles. So I love the YT mirror but if it’s not there, it’s not there. 🕺🏻

For me, I like using background play on mobile, so the YT mirrors are nice but not necessary :) I personally prefer the clips over background play anyway. There are things that descriptions don't really do justice to, like the vid on christmas specials

The people tea steeping in Magic in the Mirror disturbed the shit out of me as a kid.

We watch your stuff on the TV mostly through the YT player so I appreciate having them but do whatever you need to

i do hope you keep the yt mirrors because i use them to fall asleep! patreon afk cant autoplay the next video or be played on tv, so id only be able to watch them while on my pc

not sure if you're into marionettes or if they count as puppets, but you should check out german cult puppet content augsburger puppenkiste for some cute/scary stories. We got Don Blech und der Goldene Junker, a story about a wartime generalm who retires, hammers his old armor into a sculpture, and then has to track it down to kill his wartime self, after it becomes sentient after a lighting strike (also there's a seamonster that loves treasures and sweets). We have Urmel aus dem Eis, where a guy lives on an island and teaches animals to speak, but they all have speech impediments and then a dinosaur gets thawed out of the iceberg and a big game hunter wants to hunt it (also there's a giant crab that lives under the island and the underegropund caves have been a weird fascination for me for decades now). And there's Kleiner König Kallewirsch, where two kids get recruited to help an underground fairy king to reclaim his kingdom, and they almost get drowned by a blind ferryman. Fun Stuff. But the puppets where really cool and interesting, and as a kidf i loved the environments

It’s Billy Barty! He’s up there with Warwick Davis and Deep Roy as legendary little person character actors. His resume is very long as he’s been in movies since the 1930’s with the Marx Brothers and in stuff like Willow, UHF, Legend, and Masters of the Universe. He did voice work too in Bakshi’s Lord of the Rings cartoon and The Rescuers Down Under. He even started the nonprofit The Little People of America in 1957.

This may have been mentioned (so many comments so quickly), but the walkabout minigolf level in VR for Labyrinth is pretty great for experiencing a little of the nostalgic magic of the maze (and the movie).

Honestly i like the youtube mirrors most bc it makes it easier to watch on the TV - casting stuff from my phone is always a little awkward. Prefer having the clips tho!

Your edit of the king going "mrreh" when the princess is like "but what about my sisters?" killed me

Talking plush roll-top desk, the top looking like a big silly nose

What’s the video where Jenny talks about we sing in sillyville

As the world falls down is one of my favorite David Bowie songs! Loved this video.

Coraline hopefully proved to everyone how horrifying the framework of all those alternate world stories really are. I always got that same unsettled feeling from the genre, esp Alice in Wonderland

I wish my laptop was a muppet

I'd definitely appreciate it if you could keep posting the Youtube mirrors, as I always watch these videos on my TV. Losing the clips would suck, though...

Are we all just going to ignore the part where Jenny said someone from the Willow show hates her?? Idk if it's just a joke I misunderstood but I am dying to know the story here.

I’d rather use the Patreon player if we get the videos you want to make instead of the ones that YouTube forces you to make.

I really enjoy the included clips

We definitely prefer videos that have content that YT might block! The Patreon player is fine. For folks that talk about watching it on their TVs, there are workarounds (airplay, Chromecasting a tab, etc.)

Also for the discussion question: muppet coffee maker. I would want the lil guy to tell me when he needs to be cleaned and to chat with me every morning before I head off to work

idk why but "Magic in the Mirror" felt SUUUPER "The Pink Opaque"-coded "Don't worry. Soon you won't remember anything. Your duck costume, your cheap mirror effects... you won't even remember that you're traumatizing!"

The look is everything this video. Hair is super cute and your blouse (dress?) is adorbs!!

At first I thought maybe fridge puppet? Idk why, it just spoke to me (big, friend shaped). But I think I'm going to be boring and say my Nintendo Switch. Idk, there's just something about having a living device, contraption even, that kind of takes me back to the 2000s shonen anime adjacent things I grew up with lol.

i think the dark crystal is the most beautiful puppet movie of all time, even the skeksis are beautiful lol, every character is so annoying but perfect.

Howard the duck mention

I’d prefer YouTube because I mostly watch on my TV

My excitement when you said, "The polar Bear King" cannot be overstated.

A puppet fridge would help me watch my carbs and tell me who's been drinking my craft sodas

THE SLIMEY THE WORM PLUSH!!!!! 😊

Jenny you looked STUNNING in this video. And what a great topic. Hey, did anyone else watch Michael Rubbo's The Peanut Butter Solution as a kid?

I CANT BELIEVE YOU TALKED ABOUT LABYRINTH AND NOT THE DARK CRYSTAL????? Of the Jim Henson 80s fantasy projects I think it’s the scarier one because of the skeksies. And the uncanny valley humanoid gelfling puppets. Oh she did and said she didn’t like it :( ok Jenny I respect your opinion!

Your new lighting/camera is gorgeous!

I love the clips. I watch it all in patreon.

I rewatched Basil Hears a Noise and it has so many intricate handmade sets and props, it's hard for me to conceptualize it as 'low-budget'

I’d love if my bookcase was a puppet, for similar reasons as your wardrobe! He could also keep track of my books and we could talk about them when I’m done reading.

It's funny cause I'm in high-school and we just finished our production of the wizard of oz lmao and your right jenny his name is uncle Henry I actually played the mean old lady who takes toto (ms. Gulch) weird coincidence

I generally have the opposite opinion on "kid goes to a scary world" stories. I loved them as a kid! Because it felt like it was grappling with the idea of "there are no adults here" and how scary that is. I found those stories really helpful growing up. Also, a lot of the time they were about girls, like Alice and Dorothy, and it was nice to see girls getting to do stuff.

Was anyone else playing along with "Who is the most famous person in the low-budget section?" Trouble is, I had Amy Irving and then nobody else showed up (although I was calling her Kate Capshaw for a while so that almost counts as two).

i think i would want one of my sewing things to be a puppet. not the machine itself but like maybe my iron. it could tell me how all of my projects look and give me tips :)

I love the movie clips! Seeing the wacky movies is great :)) if I had to choose an item to be a puppet I think it would be my computer case. His plushness would be perfect to gobble my computer up and spit it out when I need it and he could make silly noises and snore when not in use. Also he'd encourage me to study.

Echoing other commenters here but I prefer the current patreon style with clips!

1) Please keep the clips in! I love seeing the weird shows/movies you are talking about 2) I think it would be fun to have some singing fruit puppets (maybe like three lemons?), or if my fireplace could be a giant puppet somehow

Jenny they had women committed in that time and place for literally anything lol.

The Patreon player still absolutely sucks, and watching on YouTube is the vastly superior experience. But I wouldn't want you to change your videos for it, so... *Shrug*

I think that I would want the curtains in my apartment to be alive puppet things if I had to pick something- every morning I could be like “good morning!” and then they would open and let the sun in and be like “good morning :)”

Cannon Films is an interesting topic. From 1979–1987 they were run by Golan and Globus and made a ton of -- usually bad -- low budget movies. Fantasy and action. Often the sort of stuff that would have a much higher budget today. They produced Masters of the Universe and its quasi-followup Cyborg, and Alien From LA. They worked with Jean-Claude Van Damme and Charles Bronson. They produced Treasure of the Four Crowns, and King Solomon's Mines. They produced Lifeforce and Superman IV. They wanted to make Spider-Man and Barbie but came to a crashing halt before that. Rumpelstiltskin would have been the first in a whole line of fairy tales. Golan went on to 21st Century Film Corporation and produced the 1990 Captain America and Night of the Living Dead. All stuff with a similar vibe. When you see Golan and Globus it's probably going to be bad genre-movie stuff, punching above its weight on a low budget.

So excited for this!!

I loved Alice and wonderland but I was a very isolated child w no siblings and no friends and no family lol. So it didn't seem odd to be for her to be alone

Did I miss something or is basil just bear in the big blue house

I like the clips Jenny! They can just use the patreon player. I mean do whatever you want but I enjoy the clips personally

I would make my dishwasher a puppet because then she could make chomping noises when I load it up

I'm fine with the Patreon player as a primary thing, but the Youtube mirror is helpful, partly for when I watch a video in multiple sittings so it keeps my spot and is easily accessible, partly because I like to watch with my wife and we don't have a computer set up in our living room so the app support is key. Whatever's necessary is fine though, just giving some considerations for why the mirror is helpful.

I'd definitely have to go with a puppet electric tea kettle. I feel like my kettle would be a goofy little dude who keeps me entertained in the kitchen. Also I always watch on Patreon, and I enjoy the clips, but you should do whatever is easiest

I really love your ‘Sarah’ shirt in this ramble! We should bring back the giant 80s collars. I prefer the Patreon player because I don’t get ads on my phone while I do on YouTube. I just wish Patreon had a save for later or playlist function.

a puppet lamp would be so magical

I work in a mail room and i would love a puppet version of our postage scale/printer!

The clips are really valuable to me, bc they end up informing my concept/memory of the source material. As eloquent as you are, a description of a vibe can't beat showing us the vibe itself. And like you said, patreon player has been ironed out a lot, I haven't had audio issues in months, making it strictly better than YouTube's

Was the Reddit thread for Magic in the Mirror referring to Charles/Charlie Band? He runs Full Moon Entertainment, and Moonbeam Entertainment was an offshoot focusing on kids' movies. Charles Band had a heyday in the 80s and has since committed to making stuff like Evil Bong and The Gingerdead Man.

Im so glad you got to cover Polar Bear King

I love a coffee table that acts like a dog, personally

The Polar Bear King! I used to watch that so much!

"Welcome to stupid nightmare world, little girl. I hope you didn't want a moment's peace." has me in tears

I'll get used to the patreon player vs having you change your approach! I tend to avoid it because I like to throw your rambles on when i'm at the gym and the patreon player won't play with the screen off, so my phone goes to sleep and i have to wake it back up, vs youtube premium which will just keep playing the audio, if that makes sense?

please keep the clips in if possible! I always watch on patreon

Tansy feels like someone tried to put Lucy and Mr. Tumnus through a serial numbers file off and totally misread the vibes?

80s fantasy makes me think of Ladyhawke lol. That movie was a trip

I might genuinely throw an 80’s fantasy themed party now tbh

I love the Patreon player!!!

the patreon player has improved SO much recently that I actually prefer it over youtube now (especially since I have emails enabled for when you post a new ramble or poll, so I’ve never missed one) tbh I treat patreon like another social media app, so when I’m bored I’ll scroll thru to see what’s new + rewatch old vids

I don't mind the patreon player at all if it means the content is as you intend it to be :)

The only reason I like the youtube mirror is that I can put the video on my Watch Later list, where I have a lower chance of forgetting that I haven't gotten around to it yet. It's not nothing, but if it's easier for you to just do what you do and put it on Patreon then that's fine!

If one inanimate object could become a little puppet I would choose either a music box because I feel like they'd be funny and pretty, but if it counts maybe one of my cacti or their pots. Or my record player!! btw I prefer the videos on patreon, thanks for the content this month <3

I totally understand why, as a kid, people wouldn’t like Alice in Wonderland. It is scary when no one is there to help you and they seem so harried. It does surprise me you hate Alice and like Labyrinth but I love both so I also fully support any love for both of them. Alice is my personal favorite book, so obviously I had a different reaction to media inspired by it, but I really do get it. I related to something in Alice you said earlier about fairytales - that as a girl, you will be given so many arbitrary rules you’re doing your best to follow. I liked that Alice tries her best with them but does show outward frustration and that’s valid as the reader/viewer. I still feel like her sometimes, even as a middle aged adult. Maybe it’s just how having a corporate, white collar job feels, but there’s a lot of pleasing mad kings and queens where you need to smile and abide by silly rules… This is one of my favorite ramble topics in a bit! I admit I’m absolutely nostalgic for this 80s style of fantasy films and a lot of it is all the puppets. Your rant about the horribly ugly human face characters is also dead on and was everywhere in the 90s. I’m curious because of the Labyrinth mention if you’ve ever gone to Labyrinth Ball? I’d wanted to go for 10+ years before I finally did and it was such a fun experience so now I’m a regular. A lot of the issues you had with Evermore’s “gameplay” I think Labyrinth Ball does so much better. It’s obviously a very small scale thing since it’s a once a year event instead of a theme park, but they handle the LARP element so much better. They have a vague lore you can pick up on entirely by just talking to actors throughout the nights. Your quests are fun and easy. I’ve been sent to play a dice game with pirates, answer a riddle from a rogue, and dance with a foreign noble in one of their ballrooms, talk to fairies. It’s all simple but everyone is excited to participate ie actors aren’t confused you’re talking to them (the Evermore bar is so low, but I promise this event is good). It’s a lot of fun!

Gotta say I’m a YouTube fan and would appreciate a workaround. If vids switch to patreon only I fear I will watch way fewer of them :(

The plague doctor story reminds me of when I went to OMSI as a kid and they had an exhibit called Grossology. It was all about “gross” aspects of biology/science. There was a massive lady puppet that freaked me out so bad that we had to leave. Also a puppet with a faucet as a head?

I had a tape of Muppet fairy tales when I was a kid that had a Muppet rumpelstiltskin, king midas, and boy who cried wolf. It was really cute and had full songs and everything!

Jenny's out here feuding with Kevin Pollack.

I prefer the patreon player. It isnt any more buggy than the Youtube app, or at least mine seems to be in a perpetual state of confusion. Youtube got me so mad... I had stopped watching as many youtube videos when they very first started going crazy with ads back in the day, but now sad Canadian that I am I've cancelled American services like Netflix so I'm back in ad city. Sigh. At least it's spring and I am out planting some hardy apple trees- they're too young to have faces yet, but maybe one day. Edit: I have adblockers normally, when I am cooking or cleaning it's just far more convinient to use the app on my phone. And the patreon player works much better for me.

I do kinda love that I immediately knew you were Sarah from Labyrinth the second the video started.

Jenny ur blush looks so pretty!!!

Keep the Patreon player if you can. One of the bonuses of Patreon is access to your videos without getting distracted by other YouTube content.

Wohooo, Efteling footage! Hoepla!

Jenny, you should be able to find good laserdisc rips of the Tales From Muppetland specials on Archive. The Frog Prince, Hey Cinderella, and The Muppet Musicians of Bremen. I've posted some myself in the past (ocpmovie/tygerbug). Youtube versions might also not be terrible. "Hey Cinderella (1969)" is a sequel/remake to a Snow White 1965 pilot that is not publicly circulating, and was co-written by Joss Whedon's dad. The Frog Prince 1971 is a sequel of sorts to "Tales of the Tinkerdee" from 1962 which you might also want to look up. (Muppet head writer Jerry Juhl played Taminella Grinderfall in both, and it's his most significant role as a performer.) "Frog Prince" is often considered the first appearance of Kermit as a frog, but closer examination suggests that Kermit was considered a frog in the 1950s. Rufus the dog also appears here and in pilots like "The Muppet Valentine Show" with Mia Farrow, and "Land of Tinkerdee." I might also recommend stuff like "Tale of the Bunny Picnic" (1986), "The Great Santa Claus Switch" (1970) and of course "The Storyteller" (1988)

The only reason I heavily prefer YouTube mirrors is because I can lock the screen and have the video continue playing. If the in-app player allows for that, then I have no problems just downloading it and switching over.

So true, but this has got to be one of the funniest fairy tale tropes: "As a proud father, let me introduce you my youngest, beautiful, virtuous daughter. Oh, and these are my other daughters, my ugly, vain, slut daughters. Blech."

Jenny you look so gorgeous in this video!

My submission for this numbered list unfortunately is from 1979. But Nutcracker Fantasy is the stuff of childhood nightmares. The people who made it owe us an explanation ;_;

I work in a chemistry lab, and I really like the idea of the graduated cylinders having a little puppet face and talking to me lol. Also I really hope you’re able to talk about the muppet frog prince, I watched that as a kid and recently (read: during the pandemic) I rewatched it, wow very different from how I remembered lol. The evil queen is so awkward and lumpy bc of the people controlling her, the acting and songs are questionable but charming, and yeah definitely a shoestring budget.

I prefer the patreon version of the videos. Especially now it allows me to minimise the video to multitask.

I like the clips, and I’m perfectly fine with the Patreon video player

Alice in Wonderland scared me too! I think you’re totally spot on with the side kicks making a big difference. In Alice in Wonderland I feel like they really hit an uncanny nightmare feeling, especially when she can’t leave. I think it really played to the fear of getting lost without your parents or guardians around to help you. Plus, kind of like you mentioned, pretty much every creature she runs into gives off hostile energy. So you’ve got this scared child who is alone and surrounded by antagonistic creatures and can’t get home, and suddenly it’s not so whimsical

I like the patreon video player over YouTube personally!

i have a plant stand in my room that i think would be very cute anthropomorphized. it could toddle around and hold things for me

I guess I might have been lucky that my mom decided to get every mainstream animated Disney movie she could on VHS, can’t really complain about that rotation. I’d also watch movies I’d taped from TVO, nothing more nostalgic than staying home sick watching a low quality recording of Muppet Treasure Island with Ms Spider’s Sunny Patch Friends tacked on at the end.

I prefer the Patreon version since the embedded YouTube player in Patreon on Android is super annoying and the actual YouTube app plays ads. To watch on my TV I just plug my laptop in anyway. It's really not that hard to plug an HDMI cable in. I love the clip inserts, the comedic timing is often hilarious.

One cheap '90s child movie that always got under my skin was Ernest Scared Stupid, of all things. Beyond the troll(s) having alarmingly gross and detailed costumes (designed by the Chiodo brothers, same guys behind Killer Klowns from Outer Space), as a kid I always found Ernest's cartoon-in-real-life persona to be oddly disturbing. Maybe Jim Varney looked too much like a full-grown man to fit the role of a de-facto giant kid?

Your description of the shift in low-budget costumes in the '90s is phenomenal and brought me so many flashbacks.

Y'all need to check out a special little flick called 'The Argon Quest' (https://youtu.be/hgfO33RffXc?si=p2Uh-WRcQIb2McoT), which features the same brilliant Canadian puppeteer who portrayed Basil in 'Basil Hears a Noise.' Enjoy!

I'm gonna go with my car being a puppet. I already personify her. We could hang out on the way to and from work and the dashboard and everything would be all plush

Does Jenny know that the forest in the 80s fantasy film Legend was entirely a fake indoor forest? It even burned down by accident once. 🌲🔥

Magic in the Mirror is one of the less good Full Moon children's movies. I feel like Josh Kirby Time Warrior and Prehysteria would be more Jenny's thing.

I'd want my car to have lil face. I think It'd be fun for my car to have road rage and yell at people on the road who are mean to me.

it came out in 2002 but anytime i think about horrible frightening low budget fantasy movies for children i think of a dvd i had as a kid called Max Magician and the Legend of the Rings. it’s unfathomably bad in the best way possible.

Jenny, I think you need to know that the king in Rumpelstiltskin was the original voice of Palpatine

Regarding Jenny not liking "Alice in Wonderland" type stories I think the problem lies in the child protagonist getting scared and upset by the events happening to them, which is what happens in the Disney cartoon. For what I understand in the book Alice is a lot more detached and non-chalant about everything

In the original Wizard of Oz book, Dorothy just straight up throws the bucket of water at the witch because she was mad she stole her silver shoes (and I think kicked Toto), but she didnt know that would kill her.

love your eye makeup in this!

YES!!!!

Uh oh I need Jenny's hot takes on the Wicked book now

So a terrible movie from 2002 that I remember watching on repeat was Max Magician and the Legend of the Rings - while I don't recall puppets being used at all, I do remember the latex pieces used to make goblins and such were absolutely WILD. I hope it holds up for a good bad watch, but ya never know. As for a puppet, I have one really nice wingback chair that I feel in a similar way, would be so lovely for the arms of it to just like wrap around and hold me as I sat in it, but only if this is a truly kind and well-intentioned puppet. Otherwise, TERRIFYING lol

I have a little flower pot with a face and arms and legs, it’s super tiny and has a spider plant that looks like hair. I’d love for that little guy to be alive it’d be so cute

I work making mascot suits rn, so... I think a thimble with a little face I can talk to whenever I get to the hand-stitching parts would be fun

I think either my alarm clock or my destiny machine could be plush. I need friendly support from both. Also Patreon is fine, I like that playback continues when my phone is locked, but is there a way to watch it on my TV?

I have been waiting for Jenny to talk about Labyrinth for so long this is great

I drive delivery, so I'd definitely want my car/maybe just the car radio to be a cute puppet with a face. I'm imaging them as being very Brave Little Toaster-looking.

My pick for 80s/90s fantasy would be The Argon Quest. It's a movie that was cut together from a few episodes of a Canadian TV show called Blizzard Island after the show was cancelled after 12 episodes. It's got Jim Henson style puppets, one of the antagonists is a puppet snake, and the other antagonist is a puppet witch whose sidekick is her uncle's still-living, severed head (to be fair, I think his body was disappeared with magic, he wasn't beheaded with an axe or anything). I loved that movie as a kid.

All-in on Patreon. Ultimately, I want video creators to make the videos they want to make, and not have to kowtow to YouTube's rules and whatnot.

“Tansy is too stupid to live and will only ever be a liability to you” -me when my friend starts dating a living pile of red flags

Assuming it isn't annoying or overly chatty, I would go with sapient crockpot. I use it on a weekly basis, and even when it's not in use it sits up on my fridge instead of being lonely in the pantry or something. It's also portable and has little legs, and maybe it could tell me when something needs just a dash of salt or a glug of wine.

Does Jenny know Figment is also in Willow?!

Haven’t finished the video yet, but I feel like I’m going crazy because I saw a clip from this ramble video of Jenny talking about Basil Hears a Noise a few months ago, and now I can’t find that post anywhere.. I’m sure I didn’t imagine it. does anyone know where it was posted?

I prefer Patreon! I hope you keep including clips. :)

Patreon works for me; if YouTube is more trouble than it's worth I'd understand

I'm glad to see someone agree with the Alice in Wonderland "genre." The amount of mean-spirited characters in those movies is so awful (I've never read the original story though)

I just watched the other Jenny video that talks about Basel Hears a Noise YESTERDAY, I thought I had deja vu but it was just very coincidental. Anyway, you should watch RATZ (2001), it’s not 80’s or fantasy but two rats get turned into teen boys and it’s such a bizarre movie! It’s just a great vibe.

Clips are good, the Patreon player is fine, YouTube is a buttfuckface.

The live action segments of James and the Giant Peach were way scarier than any of the stop-motion stuff to me as a kid.

we rented that mirror movie from the local video store when i was little and my mom wouldn't let me finish it because she found it too annoying

i work with antique violins and we always have to take pictures inside the instruments. we use a specialized endoscope meant to be stuck into the F-holes of stringed instruments—just a very tiny camera (1 cm diameter or so) on a long piece of bendable wire. i would absolutely love it if that thing had a tiny face

Patreon works okay for me for videos, but the only annoying thing is that I can't press pause or play while it is full screen on my phone. That's why I usually go to YouTube to watch them. Might fully be user error though. Regardless, if it's a hassle to upload these videos to youtube, I'm totally okay with just using the Patreon player. Whatever is easier for you!

I think with the increased quality in patreon's player it's fine to move to Patreon only, imo! i've pretty much stopped clicking on the youtube mirror after a while.

I nearly spit out my coffee when you revealed Tansy was the other mirror minder!

I used to prefer the YouTube mirror, but Patreon’s player is so much better than it used to be. I’d definitely prefer the included clips over it being available on YouTube.

Fun video as always! I think I need to track down the polar bear king and also watch that mirror movie just because it looks so grotesque! When it comes to the puppet question I think I'd have to go with my fake houseplant because if I'm going to have an artificial one I might as well go out and have one with a face

I remember watching the Rumpelstiltskin movie in 2nd grade. We were doing a fairy tale unit and comparing and contrasting different versions. Like—oh, in this version he stamps his foot and falls into hell instead of flying away on his spoon—type of thing.

I would want my office desk phone to be plush, so it could answer calls for me and be sassy

Haven't watched the vid yet, just read the description. But I am fine with you posting them only on Patreon video if it means you're unconstrained in your creativity! I wouldn't want you to exclude your fun ideas just because of lame ol' Youtube copyright strikes. I typically listen to these on my phone like podcasts (I appreciate that you often describe things shown on screen btw!) and the builtin Patreon viewer is sufficient for the task, as it can play videos in the background. I would prefer to have a Youtube option available but if it would limit your creativity, please feel free to leave it on just Patreon or find a different mirror (PeerTube? 🤔) The only issues I can think of now are casting to the TV (I rarely need/want to do so) and the option to view offline. But I'm not in urgent need of either of these. (Obviously, preventing unwanted sharing is a concern too)

I recommend the Australian tv show “Round the twist” has very much that 80/90’s low budget feel. Especially the first two seasons.

I would want a stove puppet with a face so that it could help me keep an eye on things while I'm cooking

Good One!

The king going "I'mmm greedyyyy" in the Rumplestilskin movie cracked me up more than it had any right to 🤣

I enjoy when your content has the video clips in them and I’ve never had any problems with the Patreon player personally but that’s just men

My husband is obsessed with that version of rumplestiltskin and bought this like deluxe edition box that came with a vhs of it and the truly most insane merch I've ever seen lol

The only downside of the Patreon player to me is not being able to download videos to make them available offline, but I think that’s probably an uncommon problem

You just unlocked my memories with the Magic in the Mirror part. I only watched bits and pieces of that movie, mostly towards the end I think. That's probably why my memories of it are somewhat fond lol

OMG I HAVE SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE! I barely remember this movie, but it was called The Argon Quest. I mostly only remember the name. Some Googling has told me that it was actually a series of episodes of a show strung together into a movie and it was created by a puppeteer from Fraggle Rock.

The only reason I didn’t use the Patreon player at first was because it didn’t let me play minimized/screen off. It took me a while to realize that and that I no longer have to rely on YouTube premium. I’ll bet a lot of people just haven’t retried Patreon

I think I would have my saltshaker be the puppet in my house, I guess mostly because I was really tickled by Salt and Pepper from Blue's Clues at some point getting a kid Paprika shaker

i definitely prefer the patreon player!

Just gonna put it out there that I personally way prefer the patron player. I can turn the screen off and the video keeps playing

I absolutely adore the Willow series and watched it before I had ever watched the movie, so I ended up with a much more positive feeling about the movie when I did get to it. The show knows the stuff to bring back from the movie, but then adds so much unique weirdness to the world in a way that really makes it stand out compared to other fantasy. It also centered the story around a lesbian romance between the snarky princess and her knight best friend, with their first kiss being right there in the first episode which felt so refreshing coming from a Disney that had just given us the 2 second background lesbians in TROS a few years before. It also felt refreshing because most fantasy media like it is very male centric (which is why I personally never connected with Lord of the Rings), so making the core of the series three women felt super gratifying to me. Did it end on a cliffhanger? Yeah kinda. They gave a conclusion to the season storyline, but they did have plans to do two more seasons and it will haunt me to my dying day that it was so heartlessly thrown away and never given a chance to succeed or grow an audience (you know, like the 30+ old cult classic it was based on). It was a beautifully unique show that deserved so much better.

I like the iOS Patreon app more than YouTube mostly just because YouTube restricts playing in the background to premium users only.

I loved labyrinth as a kid, but would also have nightmares where I slowly realized everything was a puppet. The floor I'm walking on, puppet. Sandwich I'm eating, puppet.

Oh my god the Sarah cosplay I love

I work in a retail hardware store, specifically the overnight shift, so I would choose a forklift to become a puppet with a face. It would be pretty eerie, especially at night, and would probably scare me quite a few times when I forget what it is. But, the strange dichotomy of being in a pretty mundane and conservative workspace and having the random himsy of a puppet forklift just sounds too funny to me.

Efteling Rumpelstiltskin! Efteling Rumpelstiltskin!

Thank you for the ramble, Jenny!! Although I usually watch in YouTube I have no reason for that, so I'm very happy to pivot if it means less work for you. I do definitely appreciate the clips - I think growing up in the UK means our frames of reference are often different (e.g. I hadn't heard of any of these films besides Labyrinth) so it's useful to have the illustrations. But I do also appreciate the effort creep involved in including them! I think I'd want my puppet friend to be something small-ish that I could tuck in a pocket or bag and take with me on adventures. Maybe something like a mini speaker that would complain if I tried to play music they didn't like. And who always got caught up in the film we were watching.

I'm really happy with the Patreon player. At some point, they added the ability to lock your phone, and listen to it whilst walking around, which is all I ever wanted, and why I originally prefered the Youtube videos.

This ramble was especially cozy, thanks Jenny!

My issue with the Patreon player is just that there's no app for it on my smart TV or Chromecast. If I want to watch from the couch instead of my desk, I have to watch via YouTube.

I would have a pizza box puppet, and it can open and there's a smaller pizza puppet. I know this is two, hope that's not against the rules. Also you might like Food Party with Thu Tran, it's a surreal cooking show where most things are puppets.

Definitely prefer the Patreon player in most respects, and I love the clips and don't want them to be restricted. I just wish they would design an app for Roku. I like to stream the ramble videos to my TV because I watch with my girlfriend; there are roundabout ways to do it, but it's a bit of a pain.

I like Patreon player, my only issue with it is that I can't save it to watch later and therefore have to write down somewhere that I have a Patreon video to watch or I'll forget 😆 it would be nice if they added a Patreon function to save things for later!

"IIIIIIIIII'M GREEDY!" Amazing.

When I was really young, I got taken to Return to Oz when it came out. I remember being scared by the Wheelers, but what really freaked me out was the room full of heads that Mombi (I think that's her name) takes Dorothy through. Terrifying! Tik-Tok always seemed like such a cool, loyal friend. I watched it again about 10 years ago, and I'd almost completely forgotten about the beginning with the sanatorium and electro-shock stuff. I guess I was young enough that I only remembered the fantasy stuff, thankfully! As far as Jenny's question at the end, I have a wooden door in my bedroom. The woodgrain in part of it has always looked like a face to me. So I guess it would be fitting if it came to life and started talking to me. Cool Labyrinth shirt Jenny!

The Patreon video player has an annoying user experience on mobile, so I prefer the youtube versions, but I can do the Patreon versions if it's much easier for you. Maybe just have the youtube mirror for videos that aren't clip-heavy?

My favorite fairytale/fantasy thing not just from the 80s but probably of all time is Jim Henson's The Storyteller episodes, "stories for brave children". John Hurt as the Storyteller is wonderful and i loved his dog puppet. All the monster puppets are beautifully creepy, the music is SO good and the fairytales feel poignant and timeless. Huge nostalgia for these. Must dig out the DVD...

Return to Oz is closer to its source novels than Wizard of Oz is, I love them both. At the beginning of the books Auntie Em is kind of cold, and I think actually does scold Dorothy for not taking better care of her pet.

Is anyone here familiar with Fantaghirò / cave of the golden rose ? An italian mini serie / tv film from the 90s , with many of these fantasy vibes? Did it make it outside of Italy? I like that of the three daughters of the King, the two older ones are the obedient, graceful type. Whereas the youngest, the protagonist, is rebellious and tomboyish. It was a camp classic for me!

I appreciate the fact that you take accessibility into consideration.

I like the patreon player! I cast it on my Apple TV. It’s easy to open and I love the clips. I’d make my coffee pot a puppet :)

Omg, I can’t believe there actually is someone else who has seen this version of Rumpelstiltskin!!! We had this on video when I was a kid and we watched it so many times. We never could get over Amy Irving saying “Brobdingnagian?”

I came out of this really interested in hearing more about Jenny's opinion on the wicked novel. as for my guy with a face hm.. well, it depends on if said object would retain it's function. If my sewing machine could be like a little helper that would be awesome. Otherwise maybe my record player.

My favorite thing about Willow is scene where he bungles a spell against a troll and then kicks it into water and it grows amazingly quickly into the Eborsisk. I think it's such a cool spin on a normal dragon design you'd see in other fantasy. And it's not given any other context, so as far as the viewer knows it is the ONLY ONE OF THIS THING to exist in the world, and it ONLY DOES EXIST because of a accidental magical chain of events. And I think that has such cool and creepy implications for magic in this world. And apparently all of that is totally ruined by the TV show, which I also didn't watch.

I like the clips :(

Patreon Player is fine for me. Dont need youtube

patreon player works for me! i feel the added clips really make rambles sparkle. many thanks to you jenny for the effort it takes to add them

Omg omg the polar bear king! That was one of those movies my family rented from the video store like one time only, but it’s stuck with me to this day. There was just something about it. And I barely understood what was happening in that movie, I was so little, but it made an impression.

I genuinely would not want anything in my house or workspace to be turned into a conscious puppet. Besides being scared if it, I'd just feel so bad for it. What does it do when I'm not in the house? Stare at the wall for hours on end? Doesn't it have dreams or broader goals? If it does, then certainly its existence as a puppet trapped in my house precludes it from pursuing those goals.

I’m so excited for the eventual multi-hour Barbie movie video! For inanimate objects replaced by puppets: the disc chair by my closet. I feel like if it was sentient, it’d help hold me accountable (or just roast me) for using it to hold my clothes and work bag instead of an actual chair, and I think the legs have some good potential for wobbling around delightfully. Also, it’s one of my cats’ favorite pieces of furniture to nap on, and I’d love to see what kind of relationship it’d have with them. Rivals? Besties? Something else? It’s a staple in my room but I think there’s good potential there for a puppet character.

This might have already been suggested by other commenters, but a dark-ish fantasy show I liked when I was young was Jim Henson’s The Storyteller. One of the episodes was a version of the Polar Bear King story called Hans My Hedgehog, where the prince was a human-sized hedgehog. There was also an anime version of The Wizard of Oz from the late 80s, a series that I think was an adaptation of several of the books. I loved it when I was about 5 or 6, but parts of it gave me nightmares. There was one part where they got trapped in a field of giant, deadly sunflowers with leering, grinning faces. And the Gnome King’s chamber of ornaments…seeing the characters slowly transform into ornaments was pure body horror. There was something else that terrified me around that same time. It was an obscure, local show that I am pretty sure I watched in school. It was about a girl and her younger brothers who were afraid to go to bed at night because they believed that a tiger stalked through their house when they were asleep. For a long time after seeing it I was afraid of the dark because I thought that a ghostly tiger was hunting me.

Criticisms of the movie 'Magic in the Mirror' (1996) noted, but to be fair little girls today still have to avoid the forest of evil Drakes.

I like the patreon player wayyyy more than YT!

wow. giving ethereal elven maiden. great work jenny.

I prefer the YouTube link because I can’t ever get the projecting onto my TV to work with the Patreon player 😭 but love you and would watch on my fridge if that was the only way

I think the fridge and freezer being conjoined twin puppets would be fun. Their faces could be made of magnets, so they could shift around anywhere on the doors or sides of the unit. And although they would bicker with each other, they would be friendly and helpful, always opening the doors to provide the exact right food item or ingredient I need at the time (even if I don't know it yet). But if I open either door while they are both asleep, I will see only a cold, yawning void inside. I would be too scared to step through. It would look endless, and what if someone came by and closed the door behind me? Might I hear their voices for once in total harmony, saying, "Looks like we got another. Just in time, too; our supply of raw material was running low. Put 'em with the rest."

On the youtube/patreon thing: i am watching the rambles on patreon, but really I'm just listening so I don't care much about any footage that might give you copyright issues. I guess I would prefer you to put less effort into the rambles editing wise because either you use the added time for other videos, or for whatever makes you happy or needs to be done. But either way, I'll be alright with how you decide to do this from now on.

1. Patreon player! I watch in chrome and it allows picture in picture which is awesome. But i care more about the quality. The effort creep is noted and appreciated. Wouldn't want to sacrifice the clips 2. My first instinct was to say my tea kettle because I use it all day and then we could become buddies. But then his foam would get all wet. So i'm going with leather armchair. Extra plush

In my grasping for what I would want to be a puppet, I reached a conundrum. What if I puppet-alive'd a portrait of a person? Would it be them, but stationary in puppet form, or would it be a cartoonish facsimile, close to them but all of their personality traits are amplified to puppetness? Idk if I'm emotionally prepared for a puppet version of Peter Cushing... he'd just be crying all the time

I haven't watched yet, just commenting on the youtube vs patreon thing. I prefer youtube because that's what's accessible on my smart TV. Makes it easier to do other tasks without missing the video if I have it on a large screen. But also more stuff I want to watch is being posted off youtube now and I accept I need to find a new solution so I won't be mad if youtube is just impractical at this point

You actually saw the Figment’s VA aka Rumplestiltskin (Billy Barty) actor twice in this video: he was the Nelwyn village elder/wizard in Willow, as well as Gwildor in the 80’s Dolph Lundgren extravaganza Masters of the Universe. Oh, and the Queen in Rumplestiltskin I saw is Amy Irving (Steven Spielberg’s first wife).

I love 80s fantasy, and for things with puppets there’s the Jim Henson fairy tale anthology called The Storyteller.

A couple years ago I read a bunch of the Oz novels and a lot of Return to Oz was taken from the books although I think the Nome King was just a guy in those and not a rock creature. (Also none of the mental hospital stuff) One of the books has a surprisingly progressive trans representation for something written 121 years ago

“The Last Mimzy” is a great 2000s film that would fit into this uncanny kids horror! It’s about a stuffed rabbit and rocks that gives siblings weird powers, and the kids have to decode what the Mimzy is trying to tell them (the rabbit doesn’t speak, it just has little garbled alien sounds only the girl understands). It kids super weird and intense bc reasonably the adults treat the children’s behavior as ~wack~ and ~concerning~

Tansy reminds me of a taller version of Teeny Weeny from Neverending Story (at least in the face).

Also inanimate puppet object for me would be my microwave

If patreon works better for you I don't need a YouTube mirror!!!

1. The patreon playing is working just fine for us 2. The willow show is definitely the best thing disney plus has made, you can watch it for free on the Save Willow website

I watch on youtube 90% of the time, but wouldn't mind if you moved to patreon player only. Just my 2 cents

Patreon player 10000%!

For any Firefox users who have issues with the Patreon player, try using Chrome. I have awful lag when I try to play the videos in Firefox, but they're fine in Chrome and Opera.

Please make the content the way you want and we’ll figure out how to best enjoy it because it’s awesome, with or without a YouTube mirror.

I had an animated Rumpelstiltskin that I watched over and over, apparently it was Timeless Tales by Hallmark. I have such specific memories of watching the VHS and eating Christmas cookies

I think as a kid, I wouldn't have made it through even the framing device in Return to Oz. That asylum would have sent me spiraling into an anxiety attack and I would have hated the whole movie on principle. So glad my parents didn't decide to show it to me. I need to actually watch the whole thing now as an adult, but last time I borrowed it from the library, I started it then got distracted partway through.

To answer your discussion question, I’d like my fireplace to be animated and puppety. 😊

It's a shame the Polar Bear King isn't on streaming anywhere now - I watched it on Netflix about a decade ago!

I think keep making videos the way you think is best, if it's with clips, so much the better.

Just noting as I haven't seen it here yet, that it's nice that YouTube allows you to download videos to watch while you don't have service- I use that feature quite a lot which makes me prefer it.

Maybe because it’s already made of plush material, but I’d like my cat tree to be a puppet. I think it would do a good job of keeping an eye on my cats while they sleep or scolding them when they fight, like a plush nanny

Labyriinth starring David Bowie....co starring David Bowie's lunchbox.

only halfway through the video but i was also terrified of alice in wonderland as a child and never understood why until you described it LOL

Great ramble I'm really glad to see Aragog back as well :D Gotta say I liked watching the rambles on youtube because they were easy to stream to my TV and imo Jenny on a big screen is the best! Streaming from patreon takes a little more work but it's still good. Oh at my nuclear pharmacy we use "hot dog" and "pancake" geiger counters and I really wish they were puppets beeping and buzzing around they'd make my job more enjoyable! Maybe I'll just slap some googly eyes on them and hope I don't get in trouble.

I was not ready for the ducks.

OMG Slimey plush!

I suddenly noticed the Barbie birthday party VHS in the background halfway through and sorta lost my mind. I think I might still have my VHS of that somewhere from when I was a wee babe. I'm so happy right now 😆

Hi Jenny. I'm one of the users with issues getting the Patreon player to work (the issue is it doesn't. Just get a black rectangle when I click the thumbnail. also Patreon support left me on read) Just wanted to say thanks for putting in the effort to make youtube mirrors despite youtube being a butt. It's not your fault Patreon has issues. Appreciate the transparency with youtube issues. I can wait for them to release the videos. ETA: To be clear, waiting for copyright claims to release, even if its weeks/months, is better than not getting the video at all. If anybody has tips for getting Patreon to work (again, tech support stopped responding to me) do share. This is not a preference or a missing feature - Patreon literally doesn't play at all.

Greedy vain slutty sisters unite- let us overthrow the saccharine reign of the hot virtuous ones

The anime fairy tales might've been individually packaged episodes of Grimm's Fairytale Classics, which were from the World Masterpiece Theater franchise. I loved it a lot, though I remember the narrator would never shut up in the Grimm ones. If I had to recommend any of them, I think adults should check out Godfather Death. It's really eerie but I think it's a more interesting take on the Grimm's version. I also like the story The Grave Mound because it's from the fine old folkloric tradition of peasants punking the Devil, who is a loser.

I don't have YT premium, and generally cast the patreon videos to my tv, so patreon is my preference. :-)

I watch on Patreon on my laptop.

I'm a weirdo who prefers patreon - the lack of ads and being able to go to other apps while watching is useful! But of course do whatever is the most practical

First things first, this outfit and hair combo is so cute! As far as YouTube vs. Patreon, do what you need to do. The first priority for anyone on this platform should be keeping exclusive content exclusive to the people who pay for it. Additionally, like you, the ad thing is also so frustrating - the fact that marking it for kids doesn’t stop the advertising makes me frustrated for reasons beyond my own personal enjoyment. I will say this: it’s very odd to me that Patreon does not have a playlist function, and having to make your own Google Doc to list your own content chronologically/all in one place is weird. As long as Patreon is reliable from a technical standpoint and there isn’t any concern on your end about the platform being the only place these posts live, I’d say go for it. It’s a joy to vote and watch these each month, I love reading the comments and seeing what everyone else is saying, and I’m gonna watch no matter the app. 💖

about the youtube mirror, i prefer it because that way i can watch it on my tv, but i will settle for my laptop if it’s too much of a hassle for you going forward

Speaking of that polar bear one, I actually watched a ton of Central/Eastern European fairy tale movies around Christmas this year. The Czech movie How to Wake a Princess (Jak se budí princezny) and the 1947 Russian Cinderella (Zolushka) might be my favorite in the lot. I really like the couple in How to Wake a Princess, and it has some very fun spins on the Sleeping Beauty formula. In that version, the princess is cursed by her aunt to prick her finger on something sharp, so the kingdom cuts down all the rose bushes, bans scissors and forks, exiles its bees, and checks the fields for hedgehogs. The princess is escorted by guards in camo whenever she goes out, and they prevent her from pricking her finger on thorns by diving in like they're going to take a bullet. There are tons and tons of Czech fairy tale movies (and also other former Eastern Bloc countries) and they all have really nice atmosphere. Zolushka has a really charming picture book feel to it. Zlatovláska (Princess Goldilocks) 1973 is a very tv special kind of movie, but I think Jenny would love the many animal puppets that help out the hero. Bring puppets back! Tri orisky pro Popelku (Three Wishes for Cinderella), Byl jednou jeden král (Once upon a time there was a king), Šíleně smutná princezna (The Incredibly Sad Princess) and Pyšná princezna (The Proud Princess) are other ones that I liked, though I'm not sure Jenny would like those as much. Zlatovlaska, How to Wake a Princess and 1947 Cinderella are probably my best guess for what Jenny would like.

My only slight preference for YouTube over Patreon is the captioning and the fact that I can play it on my TV. If both those things can be true for Patreon then I really don’t care where videos are posted.

Love the Efteling cameo. I ended up having to shelter under that little awning at Rumplestiltskin’s house during a torrential downpour, while he endlessly recited his name and whooped with delight. His song is indelibly seared into my memory.

One of the reasons I loved I Saw The TV Glow so much is that it really captured that 90s teen fantasy show aesthetic and made it look as horrifying as we remember

personally prefer youtube links since it's easier to resume but i don't want to make you do an unreasonable amount of work. for the discussion question i'd want my bookshelf to be a puppet with a face because i'd like it to give me recommendations and hand me books... although i hope the books aren't it's organs or anything

"welcome to Stupid Nightmare World, little girl. i hope you didn't want a moment's peace!" is going to live on in my head forever

As a youtube watcher, I would say keep the clips. We all know the struggles of youtube by now, if you can post it on there its just a bonus imo

i think basil is pronounced like that if’s the name but the herb is pronounced like baysil

Tubi is my favorite streaming service. It’s like the bargain bin at Walmart mixed with old artsy indie films mixed with lifetime originals. What more could you want

I think I'd pick my washing machine because I'm pretty sure its mouth would be the door and I would enjoy feeding it clothes

i can’t stop staring at the slimey plush. this is the best thing ive ever seen and i will now do anything to have one.

Jenny, really important for your Dream Forest: on youtube search for "Krtek ve městě / The Little Mole in the City," then skip to 13 minutes in. It's an indoor rubber forest and I think about it every time you've brought up your indoor forest and I just want you to experience the pleasant joy of watching this.

OK wow, you just jogged the weirdest memory during your part on Magic in the Mirror. I remember seeing the trailer for that movie on VHS previews (who knows what movie I was actually watching) and somehow I decided over time that the movie was Howard the Duck, since the ducks in the film look a lot like him. Came to find much later when finally seeing Howard the Duck that he does not come to our world through a magic mirror XD. Now I finally know what that movie was called, so thanks!

I would have no issues without a Youtube mirror except for the fact that the Apple TV does not have a Patreon app still.

I want a harpsichord with the voice of Audra McDonald to constantly sing French opera to me

As far as platform, I prefer youtube, BUT I'd much rather you make uncompromised videos exactly as YOU want and I'll watch them wherever they're permitted. I'll live. Self-censorship just for a platform suuuuuucks.

Big fan of clips so fine with these becoming patreon player only!

The Cannon Films Rumpelstiltskin movie was part of this whole reel of pre-production trailers that Cannon put out, I think in 1986, that got really popular online recently because all the movie ideas sound super-fake. People usually assume that most of them never got made, but I went through the full list with my sister, and almost all of them are real. If anything in my apartment could be a living puppet character, though, I think I would want it to be my microwave. I just like the idea of it making a little "bleh" noise when I take the food out of its mouth.

The Polar Bear King really does seem to have it all. The nasty sisters from King Lear, an Orpheus and Eurydice "don't look at me" style curse, and a variety of big goofy bear puppets! Personally, I'm glad of the clips, as I would have missed all this otherwise. 👍

Prefer YT links only because I watch them on my TV

Sure thing, I've watched the past few months on the patreon player just 'cause, but if it's going to help you avoid youtube's nonsense, patreon player it is. And, probably my bedside lamp, he's been with me for a real long time, at my back giving me nice soft light. Instead of switching him off I could be like "night night lamp" and he'd say "good night" back and fall asleep, which could be nice. I guess I'm too big for him to hug me, still I could hug him. And I swear I'm not just looking at things in my room, I love lamp. I love lamp.

Jenny saying that she planned to watch Rumpelstiltskin for five minutes reminded me of the time I planned to watch a four hour video about the starcruiser made by a vlogger I never heard of for five minutes

I enjoy clips very much and I'm perfectly fine with Patreon videos.

I would pick my door to be a puppet with a face so that we could exchange pleasantries every time I left and returned home.

My reading of the ending of Labyrinth was that Sarah learns that growing up is about gaining maturity and finding courage but not separating yourself from the things you love that are perceived as childish, hence why in the final scene all her Muppet friends come join her in her bedroom for a bedroom dance party. At the beginning of the movie she was a kid who retreated into fantasy because she needed to but her arc was about learning to get over her imaginary boyfriend and that "you have no power over me" (which is my favourite arc of any movie, I definitely needed a how to get over your imaginary boyfriend narrative when I was Sarah's age), but like, growing up is less a matter of appearing adult and rejecting play but understanding responsiblity and how play can itself be an act of empowerment. idk I might just personally connect with it way too much and want to give it the benefit of the doubt but I feel like if the movie really wanted to say that being grown up means no longer doing dramatic readings of fantasy books at the park or goofing around with puppets it just wouldn't have ended with a Muppet filled pajama party. and also then I wouldn't like it as much.

PATREON BOUGHT CHROMECAST BACK IT'S A MIRACLE. If they can stop getting rid of it then Im perfectly happy to use the Patreon player. I watch them on my tv so I need to be able to do that in some way, I just never watch longform videos any other way. Annnd now I can go back and watch last month's as well hooray ☺️

I prefer the YouTube mirror because I like to watch these videos on my TV.. I could technically use Patreon on the TV but then I have to pull out my computer and hook it up which is extra steps I usually don't wanna do.. HOWEVER if using Patreon only makes this more convenient and simple for YOU I can take a few extra steps to enjoy your content in my preferred method of TV viewing

For the record, I straight up hate Patreon videos and generally won’t watch them. My vision is poor so I need to watch on a big screen and YouTube casts seamlessly whereas Patreon does not.

I prefer the Patreon player and enjoy the clips tbh, the YouTube mirror also always plays ads

For object to come to life - My front door. It can greet me when I get home, it can give information if someone needs to talk to me, and it can scare off would be burglars -- BUT the biggest reason of all is it's NOT inside my place, as some weird living thing constantly watching me or wanting to hangout.

also i was also super creeped out by claymation when i was younger 😭 even wallace and gromit

Always delightful, never not delightful.

I prefer YouTube but can still use patreon when need be

I make tea twice a day and I would love my kettle to come alive with puppet like flesh (but still be able to boil)

i prefer the patreon player since it lets me filter out what i've already watched when i'm going through the backlog

I promise I don't work for them and this isn't selfish promotion, I just feel like Jenny might really like the "Lab Rat" Escape Room if she's ever in LA -- it's a human sized maze!!

For the question at the end I don’t know why but my brain first thought of my washer coming to life. The door can be its mouth, and it like “eats” the clothes to wash and it could have silly catch phrases idk I just would want it to be a puppet

Oh, my 3D printer definitely. It could make a spaghetti slurp noise as it takes in filament, and it could cheer for me when a print goes well, and it could feel sad when the print goes poorly. Then we could both feel bad. Misery loves company.

That chain from the polar bear video looks like it should be hanging around Flavor Flav's neck with a clock on the end.

1) I prefer the Patreon version, instead of using the YouTube mirror. 2) My only reference for the name Basil is Basil of Baker Street and they pronounce it the same way so... 3) Rumplestiltskin is actually the worst of the Cannon fairy tales, in my opinion. The Snow White one is quite good and I would argue the Frog Prince is the best.

I enjoy using the youtube version for playing on my TV, but the patreon works just fine and it wouldn't be a big deal to me if that was the only version. I enjoy the clips you include and would definitely prioritize those over youtube mirrors!

the wicked novel was horrendous.....

you should def upload the polar bear king to the internet archive!

I work from home and have a cute little lamp on my desk, so when you asked what inanimate object I'd like to be a puppet, I immediately thought of my lamp! It'd be fun to just chit-chat with it about the (usually boring) work I'm doing, lol

I prefer the patreon player because I usually end up watching on mobile. And then I think that I would like to have my mirror be a puppet with a face. I know that's like really stereotypical but i just think it would be fun

My main issue with the Patreon player is that its quite small on desktop but you can pop it out and drag the corner to make it bigger so its fine.

I love it any time you bring up Basil Hears a Noise because no one ever knew what I was talking about when I tried to explain that one as I was growing up! Personally, I always watch on Patreon. It has its issues, of course, but I can’t even with YouTube any more.

I mostly watch these on the patreon player anyway. I wouldn't miss the YouTube mirrors

While I appreciate the youtube player, I do not mind the patreon player at all! I think that with the accesability being easier, and with the concerns you've listed; it's a smart choice to stick to the one platform. As long as there's some notice for folks who might be unwilling to make the switch, I see no problems.

If it helps, i have also switched my allegiance. For whatever reason, youtube has gotten worse and patreon has gotten better!

For me, I use the YouTube player ‘cause I travel a lot, and sometimes I download the video to watch while I’m on the go. I use the Patreon one when I’ve got internet.

My suggestion to add to the list would be the 1990 film “Mother Goose Rock N’ Rhyme” staring Shelly Duvall as lil Bo Peep. It got played quite a lot in my house as a kid and I remember it being pretty trippy and seemed like it fits in with some of these others. It’s available in full on YouTube

I have no problems with the Patreon player! Do what you need to do! :)

While the Youtube player is slightly easier to use, I don't mind the Patreon one at all, it has all the features I need. So if it makes your life easier I would definitely urge you to just use that one.

I prefer to watch through the Patreon player.

I have no issues using patreon player! seems like it will be way easier for you in the long run

The inanimate object id like to come to life puppet style with a face would be my “sound machine”. It’s a little speaker with buttons that play various ambient noises for sleep. I think giving it life would make it the most happy since I interact with it daily and put cute stickers on it. It could also turn on and off if I asked so I didn’t have to get up. Only downside is if I made it angry it would probably turn it to my least favorite sound and turn the volume up severely. Great video hope you have a good day

I’m stunned you didn’t love The Dark Crystal. It’s not a children’s movie. Have you rewatched it as an adult?

Jack the Giant Killer anybody??

I do like the YouTube mirror to make the vids easier to watch on TV, but do what you gotta!

I exclusively use the Patreon player bc I enjoy seeing the comments on the video and it doesn't pause when I close my phone vs YouTube.

fuck YouTube mirrors all my homies hate YouTube mirrors

I prefer and exclusively use the patreon player!!! Its so good!!!

Thank you Jenny for representing us that don’t like Alice in Wonderland! It always just came off mean to me as well. As an adult I still can’t stand it

I wish my father loved his lazy daughter

God, you are so right about that horrible trend in costumes in the 90s. I'd never really thought about it, but I always HATED it when they did the exposed-human-face thing....

the only reason i prefer youtube uploads is because i can save it in my bookmarks and watch them even if i'm not subscribed for a particular month, but tbf i don't even remember the last period of time i had to unsubscribe from your patreon so this is fine with me i genuinely wouldn't mind tho if you stopped adding clips and just described some scenes, unless it's like you reacting to that horrible rap from that horrible movie, but then again that was more about watching it "with" you i also think it could be good for you if you put less effort on ramble videos, like i'm not really expecting main channel quality from them, just do what's easier for you and accept that people will, in fact, enjoy it lol

About the player thing: I actually greatly prefer the Patreon player—it’s easier to use on mobile and saves my progress through videos. That’s my two cents.

NOT BASIL HEARS A NOISE I THOUGHT I RAN OUT OF CHILDHOOD PHANTOMS!!!

Only reason I prefer the youtube mirror is I can download it when traveling but it's not worth it if content must be cut or it's a pain in the butt for the editor to do extra work

I prefer the YT mirrors to Patreon native audio BUT if its a substantial amount of effort, its not a substantial amount that I prefer it, and I’d be totally fine with you no longer doing those

i only go youtube because then i can put it on my tv, but i don't mind occasionally watching on patreon to make sure i'm getting the full cut

Did anyone else immediately think of Faerie Tale Theater with Shelly Duvall when they saw this theme? I loved those so much

My grandfather created Basil the Bear so it's very nice to see him get some appreciation!

Now that I realize that the Patreon player can cast to my Chromecast and actually seems to save my progress on the video, I prefer the Patreon player with the clips.

I am dying to know which Willow actor has beef with Jenny!

It was mildly a preference due to convenience, but after reading this I'd rather just watch using the patron app

I really enjoy having the clips! I have no issues with the Patreon player so I wouldn't mind if you stopped posting them on Youtube.

Totally go for just Patreon if it's easier!

Magic in the Mirror and Magic in the Mirror Fowl Play were two movies that I rented from Blockbuster as a child and I was never sure for maybe a decade if there were two movies or one movie that I dreamt about and mixed up, because so many of the details were wild. I think in college, around 2015, I finally googled them and found the names of the movies, and it turns out I did not dream or make up a single detail.

I love the clips and the Patreon player is actually pretty nice, so my vote is to keep the videos the same (if you are personally still able to handle the higher effort creep) and lose the YouTube mirror. I love your Patreon videos! I joined a couple months ago and it's well worth

i prefer to watch on youtube because i watch on my tv off a youtube playlist, but i also don’t want you to have to remove all of the clips!

Legend was for me what Labyrinth was for most girls. Tim Curry was so magnificent

On behalf of the Sixers, keep the Patreon format please!! YT has a couple better features than the Patreon player but nothing that would come close to making it worth downgrading your content. ~Love, The Sixers

Patreon because I prefer you have freedom to punch up the rambles with clips, and not have to stress over YouTube. That said the Patreon app is still crap 😂

I really like Return to Oz! BOTH Dark Crystals are AMAZING!

Since I never heard Basil as a personal name unless it was British I decided that Bay-zl is the spice/plant and Bah-zl is the name.

I personally really appreciate the youtube mirror so that I can stream it on my TV! But I'd prefer to keep the fun little clips :)

You should watch “Samantha Langmeads” video on Willow! It’s so good!

I actually heavily prefer the Patreon player as a mobile user! I find it much easier to navigate. Thank you for putting in the effort for both version, Jenny 🙏

I vote patreon player

If you have an Amazon Fire Stick or if your TV has a built in browser, you can use the Patreon website using that to view content on your TV.

Also quick note you can often cast/airplay the Patreon player from your phone to your TV (depending on your setup)

The Patreon player has definitely improved, to the point the only advantage YouTube has for me now is casting.

I feel like Jenny would appreciate the singing puppets in the first Troll movie. I watched it recently as an adult, but I can see this giving a kid permanent damage. https://youtu.be/pMPJV8sYt7k?si=y-Nkrdfmt9enM49m

PATREON PLAYER!!!! LONG LIVE THE CLIPSSSS!!!!!!

I vote Patreon player! Even offering direct mp4 downloads would be great! I love the (copyrighted) clips while watching!

Patreon player is just fine with me

It seems like the response is generally in favor of YouTube mirrors, but just my two cents - I feel like removing copyrighted content is a little bit of a bummer when the only benefit is so that people can watch the video on their TV--which I enjoy doing myself, but it seems like a sort of lame trade-off imo. I think we could adjust to using the patreon player! 🤷

While do like the yt mirror, I do prefer more clips. I’d rather have more clips and just not have the mirror.

How does Jack Pumpkinhead not put a smile on your face?

In case you still care to know, that producer everyone was talking about for the magic mirror movie was Charles Band/Full Moon Pictures. He made all of the Puppetmaster movies and was generally just known for making and distributing cheap horror B-movies. Also to answer the discussion question, I think it would be fun if my electric kettle was a puppet because I don't use it often enough and I might be motivated to if it had a silly face lmao

I have issues nearly every time using the Patreon player that literally make videos unwatchable, so I'd prefer having a YouTube mirror.

The only reason I like the youtube mirrors is because I frequently rewatch rambles on my TV while doing other things on my computer. If there's a patreon player way to do that, someone please let me know! It's a benefit I would be fine without though, if the cost is you not making your videos the way you see best!

I prefer the youtube mirrors so i can watch these videos on my tv. Watching on Patreon means hunched over my laptop and multitasking, so youtube is always preferable for me.

Willow was one of my favorite movies as a kid, but I watched it when I was so young that I thought I'd made it up. The thing I loved most about the movie is that Val Kilmer's character is wearing a different outfit in almost every scene, it's a fun little running gag.

I like patreon because in the UK, there is no picture-in-picture option without buying premium, so having the PIP allows me to watch the videos while doing other things

I would opt for patreon player as I really love the clips!

In the past I usually switch to YouTube but will gladly use the Patreon player from now on if it means more clips.

I appreciate the availability of a youtube mirror so I can listen while I'm out shopping or something, but at the same time it's aggravating to have to cut out parts because of copyright and dumb YT rules. I think making Patreon the primary/full video with all clips and such, and then having the YT mirror (edited as necessary) just available as an option is a good compromise. If/when making the YT mirror involves too much cutting, editing or effort, I think it's sensible to ditch it (for individual videos, at least. Maybe even altogether) now that Patreon has a better player with CC and such.

I’d make my bedside lamp animated. Just for the good nights

I personally prefer the patreon player since it's ad free and can easily be watched picture in picture or as audio only. Appreciate that everything comes as patreon video as well now!

I would like my gigantic evil church organ to come alive. I’ve never really liked it, as it takes up a lot of a lot of space. I feel it would be much more satisfying to smash it to pieces if it had the voice of Tim Curry. And it can’t move so I wouldn’t have to worry about it defending itself.

This was such a fun one! Even watching from the Patreon one, I can still cast it to my TV so I personally have no problem there.

Starting countdown until, "Never go full Tanzy," becomes part of the common zeitgeist.

The one advantage YouTube has over Patreon is the ability to download videos for offline viewing (if a Premium member). So I prefer it for that reason, but the Patreon player works fine otherwise.

Nah clips are good I don’t mind the Patreon player

I agree with others saying that they like YouTube so they can cast to their TV (I don't use Chromecast) but that we also prefer clips! It would be a bummer to not be able to cast to the TV easily, but I'll figure out an alternative that works for me if it means that the content remains easier to produce

The Mouse and the Motorcycle movie from 1986 haunts me. They are little puppets/figures but it looks like stop motion made with taxidermy.

I like the YouTube player to watch it on my tv, but I never mind when it doesn’t work for whatever reason

I only prefer YouTube mirrors out of convenience — but personally I would rather watch a ramble w/copyrighted clips on Patreon over a ramble on YouTube without.

"leaves made of flesh" 🤢 Also, the Patreon player is fine.

Re: YouTube vs Patreon, I use YouTube for a downloadable version I can listen to while on the subway or driving, but that can be truly audio-only - I'd literally be fine if you were uploading them to SoundCloud or something. I'd prefer to keep the clips in and drop YouTube.

For what it’s worth, I’ve always been fine with the Patreon player!

the patreon links are fine! plz don't eliminate clips <3