September 4, 2025

S4E22: Point Break

In a simpler time there were heroes with names like Johnny Utah who dedicated themselves to fighting crime. And there were criminals with names like Bodhi who sought a higher purpose, such as a wave so sick it kills you. These are their stories...

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Hey, Devon here. In our home, we talk a lot about how insane everything feels, and agonise constantly over what can be done to best help the Palestinians trapped in Gaza facing the full brunt of genocidal violence. My partner Rebecca has put together a list of four fundraisers you can contribute to- all of them are at work on the ground doing what they can.

-Palestinian Communist Youth Union, which is doing a food and water effort, and is part of the official communist party of Palestine
https://www.gofundme.com/f/to-preserve-whats-left-of-humanity-global-solidarity

-Water is Life, a water distribution project in North Gaza affiliated with an Indigenous American organization and the Freedom Flotilla
https://www.waterislifegaza.org/

-Vegetable Distribution Fund, which secured and delivers fresh veg, affiliated with Freedom Flotilla also
https://www.instagram.com/linking/fundraiser?fundraiser_id=1102739514947848

-Thamra, which distributes herb and veg seedlings, repairs and maintains water infrastructure, and distributes food made with replanted veg patches
https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-thamra-cultivating-resilience-in-gaza

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lousullivan.bf · March 12, 2026

This is the first time it’s occurred to me that the phrase ‘young, dumb and full of cum’ is intended to refer to the person in question’s *own* cum and not someone else’s. I was genuinely baffled when they said it in the movie and briefly thought it was some 90s homophobia.

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Australian Estuary Pirate · November 27, 2025

(Australian) November (Because it's Summer), Radical Thorn and Shreddin' Devon. How many iconic Johns has Keanu Reaves played? Johnny America, John Constantine, John Wick... how many more?

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John · October 8, 2025

Please I beg you, Keanu season

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James Collinge · October 7, 2025

Johnny Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch from Cardiff

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Ezra · September 25, 2025

It's pronounced Kirk-coo-bree! And it's where some of the Wickerman was filmed.

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Steezcake_Factory · September 25, 2025

This is one of my favorite movies ever so I really hope they like it

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Commander Freddy · September 24, 2025

Look if there's one thing growing up in Sydney taught me, it's that surf nazis are very real

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Mircyreth · September 19, 2025

@1:37:26 It's pronounced Kir-coo-bree. Regards, a person with family in Scotland.

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Orla McEvoy · September 19, 2025

As someone with an Australian surfer uncle who smoked way too much weed- yuppy surfer hatred is a real thing. Super real - fights and shit on the beach. I’m pretty sure he got done for assault on one of them because young guys were surfing in his spot.

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JD Starflower · September 10, 2025

Two things: 1st, most of the surf Nazis are played by members of the band The Red Hot Chili Peppers who were very popular at the time this film was made. 2nd, it’s really amusing hearing you talk about the actual remake in 2015 and how a spiritual remake could be made with a different extreme sport knowing that’s exactly what they did in 2001. In that version they replaced surfing with street racing, the surf Nazis with Asian street gangs, Keanu Reeves with Paul Walker, and Patrick Swayze with Vin Diesel. But beyond those changes, most of the plot beats are the same.

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Hovis · September 10, 2025

The moral of this movie, though unstated, is that attempting to hunt down a borderline harmless thrillseeker heist crew directly led to rape by deception and a whole pile of violent deaths, just to try to stop them making it to Australia where they would have all promptly ate shit and died in the storm. If the FBI ignored the surfer theory everyone wins. Edited to add: Is Bodhi the first example of a crew leader also being the Waingro?

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Death By Samurai Builds a Minifigure Scale Venator · September 10, 2025

It's not kelso it's doctor cox!

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John Doe · September 9, 2025

Johnny Utah? As MythicalMothman pointed out, every time I see Johnny Mnemonic starred in a movie, he reminds me of how John Wick looks like Johnny Silverhand from Night City, as performed by John Constantine, or John whatever his last name is from Um... Anyway, I'm happy you folks talk about Don John's son Jonathan Harker. He's an inspiration to us all (?) PS: Who the hell is Thomas A. Anderson?

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Death By Samurai Builds a Minifigure Scale Venator · September 10, 2025

Thomas A Anderson is Neo's real name in The Matrix. That's why Agent Smith calls him "Mr. Anderson"

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MythicalMothman · September 9, 2025

Keanu has played a lot of Johnnies. -Johnny Utah -Johnny Mnemonic -Johnny Wick -Johnny Constantine -Johnny Devilsadvocate

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Mircyreth · September 19, 2025

Johnny Silverhand Johnny Matrix

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Garfield Noyb · September 8, 2025

Anyone happen to be familiar with the Pierbi formula Abbi mentions at 1:16:25?

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BarFly · September 8, 2025

Johnny Midlothian from Peebles

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The Mad Scientist's toolkit · September 8, 2025

The previous generation of Neo-Nazis in Australia did actually have a surf nazi unit in lieu of the Hitler youth. Come to think of it they're probably the current generation of Neo Nazis now.

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The Mad Scientist's toolkit · September 8, 2025

My sister's show had a surfing episode and the lead who is just leaving his late 70s did his own surfing. I wonder what the insurance situation was like?

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Karkadan · September 7, 2025

I come to y'all with a few humble recommendations. May I suggest Mad Money (2008) and the National Treasure movies? Mad Money because it's a heist movie for the Mama Mia crowd, and National Treasure, because, obviously.

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Alexander Jonsson · September 7, 2025

Maybe y'all could review Assault on Precinct 13 (1976) Just watched it, it's full of stuff y'all can comment on, like a malaise of ACAB sentiment for example. Saw it free on YouTube.

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Sharilyn Neidhardt · September 7, 2025

SO EXCITED for KJB to cover this movie that I became a patreon subscriber. This film has everything! I grew up in 1970s/80s southern California and they get a lot of the surf culture stuff right imho. Surfers are in fact super territorial and there was a ton of 'Locals Only' energy in so cal at that time.

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Alex Anderson · September 7, 2025

Interestingly the “criminal throws a pit bull at the cops” is the justification that SWAT guys use when they shout a family beagle in a no-knock raid. I don’t know how integrated it is into the Narrative but it’s absolutely what SWAT guys told me when I brought up the killing dogs thing.

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Stormsdream · September 6, 2025

I remain in the "No, seriously, Keanu Reeves is a good actor" camp. People don't recognize the acting style. It's too subtle. When they were filming The Matrix Resurrections in Alameda and downtown San Francisco, Keanu would just hang out near the filming location. Alameda is a small island town with basically one main street with stuff on it, and that's where he would be. People would come into the office where I worked and say things along the lines of, "Oh my god, I ran into Keanu Reeves yesterday, and he's so nice. He's such a sweet-heart." I avoided downtown while they were filming and never had a reason to go to Alameda, so I missed out on the sightings. I really hope there are no credible stories about him because it would be wonderful to think there's at least one nice person in high-end Hollywood.

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Scott · September 16, 2025

Fwiw every story I've heard about him has been about how chill and cool he was and I've never heard a hint of him so much as even being rude to someone before.

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Tall Jeff · September 6, 2025

The Gary Busey award for eating on screen-wait no the Brad Pitt award for eating on sc-wait no...

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · September 6, 2025

When the FBI talk about 'brick" they mean straight up regular FBI agents. They do do investigate work only. They don't do undercover work, they don't plant bugs, they are the cyber crime specialist. They aren't profilers or counter-intellgece agents.

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Fupa Troopa · September 6, 2025

42:10 Oh fuck I didn't realize there were two movies with Surfer Nazis. This and Troma's Surf Nazi's Must Die

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Noblese Oblahaj · September 6, 2025

Just starting to imagine Point Break but with Furries. The bank robberies line up with cons. Keanu has to choose a fursona and build a suit. Has to learn the lingo and identify popufur artists by style, get some commissions, build an f-list profile

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Noblese Oblahaj · September 6, 2025

Obama would just rob everyone in the lobby and give their money to the bank, then you'd lose your house

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Zipzapzop · September 6, 2025

If you want to do an actual Buddhist movie my recommendations: ongbak, el topo, uncle boonmee who can recall his past lives

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Harold Gottfried · September 6, 2025

I am here to tell you to watch My Own Private Idaho.

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November Snow · September 6, 2025

Brian Cox Memorial award for covert intelligence to Keanu for absolutely beefing someone else's sting operation with the Nazis tbh

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DrShockMaster · September 6, 2025

The first Fast and Furious is pretty much the same movie but with street racing

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Buckeroo · September 6, 2025

Kirkcudbright is pronounced "Kir-cood-bree" btw

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Aoife Rowan · September 6, 2025

beat me to it

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Willow Brannon · September 6, 2025

Colonel Kilgore is probably a surf nazi back in the states, it’s what he reads as being directly inspired by from contemporary American culture

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heffa · September 5, 2025

Great. Now I my brain is stuck on imagining Swayze and Reeves re-enacting the Auntydonna Midnight Snack skit

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Willow Brannon · September 5, 2025

Just seeing the comments, apparently you’ve volunteered to do an episode on the educational film Surf Nazis Must Die

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ScienceDaddy · September 6, 2025

Literally came here to suggest this! Troma films rule

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David Mudre · September 5, 2025

DROPS ARE BACK! 🥹

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James Rule · September 5, 2025

2nd term Trump is a Waingro confirmed.

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Davesknd · September 5, 2025

I am deeply offended that nobody in this Podcast knew the legendary movie "Surf Nazi Must Die!". I expected better from you all.

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April, legally Ms. Holloway (but not a Secretary) · September 5, 2025

... okay as a Baltimore girl I appreciate the Johnny Unitas pull

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · September 6, 2025

As a Marylander I loved it as well. We won't go into which part of Maryland, but I bet you can figure it out.

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Serenity · September 5, 2025

Hoping for the "just like me fr" episode and keeping in line with heist movies based in California, gimme Drive!

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A Tedious Returning · September 5, 2025

This is my mums favourite movie

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Carley They/Themsen · September 5, 2025

Me, the entire podcast: *Patrick Stewart in Charlie's Angels voice* 'and what about Australian Johnny?'

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Juice · September 9, 2025

came here to say this omg

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David Schuller · September 5, 2025

Speaking of Bigalow, I’d love to know what y’all think of her film, The Loveless. It’s more horny than violent, but it’s Bigalow, so it’s going to get violent.

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Delwyn Gee · September 5, 2025

If they do a horror season, Near Dark is a good choice.

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RumbleisBlue · September 5, 2025

Accountant squared episode when?

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John Leavitt · September 6, 2025

It is astonishing how much that movie is a stealth Batman movie

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Winson Paine · September 5, 2025

As a dad in the US, I am federally required to know about football and compulsively required to explain it when needed. Quarterbacks are often but not always smaller players, not like kicker small but usually lighter than your backs (dudes who run with the ball, usually pretty burly) and certainly smaller than linemen, who are fucking giants most of the time. They are almost always expected to be the smartest guy on the field (they actually have a NFL IQ test players are required to take, its called the WONDERLIC which i find funny), since they are the defacto field marshall for how their team performs and nominally in charge of the show. Reeves is a reasonably creditable ex-college football QB who has slimmed down since his college days, I reckon.

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Emilio Porras Vergara · September 5, 2025

Keanu also played a former college QB in The Replacements, a movie which I have a lot of fondness for since it was funny unlike most American Football movies.

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Bethany Fine · September 5, 2025

Do. Strange. Days.

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NowhereMan661 · September 5, 2025

Surf Nazis sounds like something Mel Brooks would come up with.

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NowhereMan661 · September 5, 2025

Why has Keanu Reeves played so many guys named John/Johnny/Johnathan?

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Rufus M. Grapefruit · September 5, 2025

Maybe the asshole shortage is causing the physiological impossibility?

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NowhereMan661 · September 5, 2025

I just got a say, Lori Petty in this movie is gorgeous. I love women with short hair.

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Cosm Sauce · September 5, 2025

I hate Illinois surf nazis from California

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Alex · September 5, 2025

Surfer bushido code? Is this anything?

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Eric Slusser · September 5, 2025

So, would the Point Break of today be about Pickleball?

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Casual Observer · September 14, 2025

Pickle Break?

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mortran · September 5, 2025

That was a great episode, but Holy shit is can't wait for Under The Skin!

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goslingbot · September 5, 2025

Anyone got the formula abi mentioned at 1:16:30? asking for my gf

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Brian Taulbee · September 5, 2025

Cousin of Johnny Mnemonic.

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IcarusTyler · September 5, 2025

I figured out the episodes after thr next, it is too perfect: Point Break - Point Break (Remake) - The Fast & The Furious (the better Point Break remake)

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Werewere · September 5, 2025

I was not ready for any of these three knowing who Tim Tebow is.

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Andrew Dunn · September 5, 2025

Born and raised in Florida - yup Also I think FD Signifier has done a video on intersectionality and football positions, where he talks about how quarterbacks are known as the intelligent position in football, and COINCIDENTALLY also almost always white men

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Sword Through Your Window · September 5, 2025

johnny utah, johnny english’s distant mormon cousin

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Felix · September 5, 2025

But what about Australian Jonny?

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Groundhog … Trams guy, I guess · September 5, 2025

Devon, the public voting is over we’ve done our bit but we can’t vote any more

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Its Devon Babeyyy · September 5, 2025

Thank you for doing your part habibi. Next episode has one ad in it too just bc we banked them up

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Andrew Dunn · September 5, 2025

What is a surfboard but a you-boat. "What's the brick training for?" Dr Cox's literal first lines are to ask about his cardiovascular fitness. It's over the top physical training prescribed by the hard-ass boss My wife's parents died when she was about 23, and I really want that orphan bumper sticker they described Pedantic point: Stand Your Ground law is specifically written for when you are in public. Castle Doctrine is for when you are at home. This movie is the first time I ever heard the term "Bodhisattva" and between this and the 2007 police procedural "Life" starring Damien Lewis, sparked an interest in Buddhism. (Teaching an American about Buddhism: imagine two copaganda) Speaking of beach sports, I discovered there is a thing called Beach wrestling, which is very similar to sumo wrestling without a mawashi belt. I recently started amateur sumo and I also want to get into beach wrestling. Re: the inclusiveness of physical hobbies- sumo is the opposite of surfing. If you walk up and say hi in the middle of practice, we'll put you in a loincloth and have you shoving people immediately. Also I'm in a queer amateur sumo wrestling Discord Damn I went a long time without knowing Jon bernthal's politics but I could have guessed The first Dirty Harry movie also ends with him throwing his badge into the water The pod hasn't done Roadhouse yet right? Fascinated to hear about the quiet philosophy reading stoic Mullet Tightpants who saves a town from the evil machinations of a capitalist, played by the one Jewish actor in the movie, and his gay-threatening personal enforcer Abigail mentioned the "not gays" towards the end that is a theory synthesized by our cishet Wisconsin boys Redletter Media. They coined the terms "a case of the not gays" to describe forced hetero shit, as well as the term "passive progressive" which is what they call tiny quick gay bits in the background of movies that you can get credit for but also easily edit out

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Simon T · September 5, 2025

D'you think Johnny Utah knows Duncan Idaho

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Sammi · September 5, 2025

When I saw you'd done this, I wondered if you'd pulled a reverse Casino Royale and covered the remake first just to fuck with us.

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Sammi · September 5, 2025

Wincing every time they refer to Dr. Cox as Dr. Kelso.

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DanYell · September 5, 2025

Joe Montana was a real nfl quarterback that I think is the origin of Johnny Utah

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Jessica Brown · September 5, 2025

Do the Point Break episodes mean they're doing the Fast and Furious series next!? Or at least the first one as it was inspired by Point Break. The F&F movies are a guilty pleasure and I am looking forward to them getting the KJB treatment.

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · September 5, 2025

There's nothing guilty about liking Fast and Furious films. They are the perfect combination of soap opera, absurd action and family.

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Ari · September 5, 2025

disappointed by the lack of gary indiana jokes smh

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ann hedonia · September 5, 2025

Devon can’t keep getting away with these Chinese Mike jokes

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The Squash · September 5, 2025

Oh fuck yeah

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Xander Graham · September 5, 2025

The SCUM “U” was Utah! UTAH

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Busy Mason · September 5, 2025

Johnny Queensland, from Tasmania

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Katie · September 5, 2025

Who has two thumbs and a Goodnight Cross despite not actually being in the movie? Bob Kelso, how ya doin

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Mildly invested · September 5, 2025

perfect ending, American tries surfing in Australia once. Dies immediately.

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heffa · September 5, 2025

Even if the wave didn't kill him, the horrific attempt at an Aussie accent by the cop would have

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Wolfman Jack · September 5, 2025

I'd be very happy to have an all-surfing retelling of World War II.... Some kind of Churchill joke about, "We shall fight them on the beaches," then catches a gnarly wave while he plots a genocide in India.

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Wolfman Jack · September 5, 2025

Does anyone know any spooky heist films? Just in time for Halloween season this year?

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Lauri King · September 6, 2025

The Ladykillers might fit the bill

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Ollie Alexander · September 5, 2025

The brick diving thing is a lifeguard/swimming drill! They use it to this day for lifeguard training. As part of the lifeguard certification you need to dive for a 20lb brick and swim the length of an Olympic pool with the brick out of the water on your shoulder as fast as you can

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Donovan Burns · September 5, 2025

I think also they put that scene in to show that they can swim

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Wolfman Jack · September 5, 2025

Johnny Mnemonic from Istanbul (not Constantine)?

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Sam Handwich · September 5, 2025

It doesn't take the CIA to brainwash me into having a homosexual sport bonding activity with Patrick Swayze.

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Knights Who Say Sledge · September 5, 2025

I grew up in a So Cal surf city in the 90s and the degree to which the neo Nazi and the surfer venn diagram circles overlapped there was nearly 100%. I wish I could say that that changed over time, but it only has gotten to be more so the case. I don't live there any longer and haven't for quite a bit, but I remain aware of the area enough to know its only gotten WAY worse. At least in that town (which remains among the leading So Cal surf cities). I know that overlap is not universal tho in all So Cal surf towns, but it is a very real thing. When I saw the film in cinemas at the time I was like "this is exactly what 1/3 of the dudes in my high school are EXACTLY like" in terms of the male surfer culture and behavior in the film. And the level of aggressive territorialness of surfers to their turf in the 90s was off the charts. It was not enjoyable to be a teenager in a surf city in the 90s, even one who didn't surf. The toxic male aggressive surf clan BS was thru the roof.

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · September 5, 2025

That bullshit goes back into 70s and 80s. The South Santa Monica/Venice surfers were notorious for enforcing locals only at the surf spots around the Santa Monica Pier. They would put young kids who were new at surfing on the pier armed with wrist rocket sling shots to shoot small ball bearings at non locals. You have to remember that back in the 60s, 70s and into the mid 80s Venice and South Santa Monica were very working class areas. Then gentrification started happening

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Heather · September 4, 2025

Heck yeah, I've been waiting for this one

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Foxing around. · September 4, 2025

The dumbest thing about the remake, is that they had a Payday 2 crossover. Featuring it's own heists and it's now deisted as the rights expired.

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Loquin Britton-Herndon · September 4, 2025

How many people are yelling cocaine at their phones right now?

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Katie Gilmour · September 5, 2025

I was yelling Dr Cox pretty regularly.

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bobbler42 · September 4, 2025

Re: literal surf nazis: 1. Warchild’s literally anthony kiedis, no? 2. Surf nazis must die; no idea if it’s a heist movis, but it’s a title.

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Ben Schwabe · September 5, 2025

Nazi shot in the foot is Flea!

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Camoose · September 4, 2025

Oh boy, a two hr kjb episode to listen too on the last half of my shift. Hurray

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Tariq Moustapha · September 4, 2025

They say "full of cum" like it's a bad thing.

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Charlie Lightning · September 4, 2025

Caught my first tube today