January Bonus: New Year, New Food Pyramid

y'alllllll, I love this episode so much even though the breathetarians are AWFUL, but I almost screamed aloud in the grocery store this morning, even though it's a turkey candle, not a chicken one https://www.heb.com/product-detail/destination-holiday-thanksgiving-turkey-figural-candle/16086015

i am very late with this but please PLEASE can we not with the "should you drink one glass of wine per day – I don't know" when this has been extremely debunked (actually there's probably potential for a whole main feed episode in the scientific debate about this whole thing). i know it's not the point of the episode and the rest is up to the usual MP debunking standard but I'm kinda disappointed with this comment

Xx Ft

The point about thin people drinking whole milk as kids to support it being a way to be thin made me laugh, because I’m giving my falling off the growth chart child whole milk because it’s an easy way to increase his overall calories. Based on his dad he will naturally just be a thin human, it has fuck all to do with the whole milk (and in fact is being fed to him to make him less dangerously thin) 🙃🙃🙃.

I have six chronic conditions that all Cascade and crash into each other and our results of not having enough medical information in the 90s and 2000s/fat phobia. Wouldn't it have been wonderful if I had been taken seriously with some of my concerns when I was 13 instead of told to eat less and move more? And now my health is spiraling out of control, and I can't afford treatment for two of them and I'm on a never-ending payment plan for others.

MIKE DRINKS SPINDRIFT HOW CAN HE BECOME MORE OF A KING

I am so sorry to ask for this, but could y'all respond to the Jubilee video, Jillian Michaels vs The Body Positity Movement Surrounded?

Just wanted to add - when talking about the beef industry - cattle producers are actually at an all time high for prices. We are at a really low heifer numbers, which mean prices are super high. Also, very very little consumer increase in beef prices are passed back to the rancher, that primarily is going back to the processors. Just a note!

Sorry to "well actually", but too much protein is no bueno for your kidneys, especially in people with chronic kidney disease, which is super under-diagnosed, sooooo it's not cute for the administration to tell us to protein maxx 🙃

bro i've been treated for chronic illness since i was 14. i can't name a person without a chronic condition

This was great. I’m hoping for a Peter Attia episode soon given recent events

Are these only release once a month now?

Compounding the problem of misinterpreted data is the fact that people cite articles and authors who sometimes don't even exist. Completely fabricated and then amplified across social media. Not everything that looks sciencey is science, but how is an unsuspecting public supposed to know the difference? So grateful for this podcast.

Episode idea: cycle syncing. I have been seeing a bunch of health advise from cis women about maximizing nutrition and exercise with the stages of their menstrual cycle (often while trying to sell you suppliments or teas of course). Whole thing makes me feel uncomfortable. It uses the language of "addressing women's health" to sell you something and also seems to overemphasize the role that hormons play in women's expirence of life vs cis men in medical terms. Like even just memes about how ppl feel in different stages of their cycle... I'm all for being in touch with your body ect but it feels overly prescriptive and affirming of biological essentialist gender norms

I dont know fucko! My new mantra

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU33MUgiWo5/?igsh=a25jdHhvMWNzcDJ6 For the love please cover this on an upcoming podcast.

I also had to transport my eggs in ridiculous ways, and my secret was buying a plastic egg carton! Then I just plopped them from the cardboard carton to the plastic one and they were good for transport 🥚

Random but I’d love your take on American’s Next Top Model documentary that just dropped 💅🏻

As someone who is lactose intolerant the “I’m tolerant, lactose intolerant” made me laugh. So stupid.

Yessss I love Aubrey’s point about how people can use resources like this to bring themselves back to reality. Like sure, no one is restructuring their diet every five years based on this but there are a meaningful amount of people who need information like this to be truthful so they have a healthy place to start if they aren’t already informed

I'm sure the last thing y'all need is more episode ideas but I'd love your insights on the supplement company AG1 if you felt like researching it!

Omg I know you didn’t ask but I would absolutely LOVE if you both do a review of season 1 of Heated Rivalry. I NEED to know your takes!! 🎉

Have you looked into Lumen, the weight loss device where you breathe into it in the morning and it tells you what to eat for the day?

Hey folks, I looked for a chat or way to message but couldn’t find one so hope this finds you. This just came up on my FB feed and it sounds right up your street! Couldn’t read to confirm bs as I won’t accept the cookies, but perhaps you have a way around that! Here goes: ‘Obesity driving one in six UK deaths from infection, new research reveals’ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/obesity-deaths-infection-weight-loss-jabs-b2916756.html?fbclid=IwZnRzaAP4Y9ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEermxYmPdnreLGRMMfdReuHex_knFyRZrF512wXmPjrFZ42LBj23jTDzp_Hcs_aem_4gy2Oqc7r_kPdH2bKghfNw

I'm not sure where's the best place to ask this but will you two talk about the WILDLY anti-fat Super Bowl ads???

The math part would have been a lot easier if you guys used metric like literally the rest of the world 😂

I'd welcome a scale of bad :D

Please do an episode on Peter Attia.

https://youtu.be/o0u4M6vppCI?si=MF8nTh_McxD6lych

Morton’s neuroma gang rise up

Mike's new rapper name is Lil' Foot Bonez

I work in a library and just shelved a book called Let Beans Change Your Life. I can only assume Aubrey writes under a pseudonym as well.

Not calling the Patreon episodes ‘fake episodes’ guys 😭🤨

People obsessed with shitting on vegans talk more about being vegan than any vegan I’ve ever met. The stereotypes of “vEgAnS wOnT sHuT uP aBoUt BeInG vEgAn” and how vegans are notorious about shoving our lifestyle down everyone’s throats is so absurd when the Manosphere exists.

2027 food guide 🟨

I'm a wastewater treatment process engineer. With increasing protein consumption in the United States the nitrogen loading per capita in the wastewater has been increasing. This makes it more challenging to sustainably remove nitrogen from the wastewater treatment plant leading either increased costs / carbon footprint for water utilities or increased discharges of nitrates / ammonia to the environment. This in turn potentially leads to increased eutrophication, aquatic toxicity, or N2O emissions... a greenhouse gas). When RFK was less publicly crazy he was involved in and advocated for improving N removal... specifically from NYC to the Long Island Sound.

I giggled with anticipation when Aubrey mentioned a future episode on whole grains vs refined grains like a MAHA disciple would have giggled when seeing beef tallow mentioned on the upside down pyramid. Do it! Do it! Do it!

🎶 And now that I’m grown I eat five dozen eggs, so I’m roughly the size of a baaaarrrrgggggeeee 🎶

I was listening to this on speaker and when RFK's voice came on, my cat FREAKED out.

Fun fact: 40% of 90 of the same as 90% of 40. Like that works for any two numbers. 🎉

Just as Trump thinks asylum seekers are from mental hospitals, they think whole milk is raw milk or like, unprocessed milk. They don’t know what anything means.

Are we sure that Ron Swanson wasn’t the real ghost writer of the new food guidelines?? 😅

20 eggs breakfast guy must be so happy his diet is now the meta under the new food guidelines

I’m a blue-haired vegetarian lady! Feeling so targeted. 😂

While there are certainly elements of the current US life environment that contribute to chronic disease, every time I hear complaints about the rise of chronic diseases I want to scream, “IT’S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON’T JUST DIE OF THESE THINGS ANYMORE!!!” My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer in a routine screening five years ago, and because of the success of a clinical trial he is still alive and well enough to discover a new chronic condition he’s now being treated for. Thirty years ago someone like him would’ve just DIED and never contributed to those terrible no-good very bad chronic illness numbers. Scratch the surface of RFK’s “make America healthy again” rhetoric and what he’s really promoting is a world where, if someone can’t be “healthy” enough, they just die.

I loved this episode a lot! However, a minor nitpick: about eight minutes before the end, Michael refers to the 2020 Dietary Guidelines as "the Biden dietary guides". Trump was still president the first time in 2020 when those guidelines were crafted and released; Biden didn't become president until 2021!

I always wonder if we substituted "car accident victims" and started assessing that the value of their health care should be tied to whether they 'caused' the car accident that the right wingers would see that they are thinking about health care in the wrong way. Or... They actually would withhold treatment from car crash victims that contributed And... They don't like seat belts either! Lol

Earlier today my friend told me that her cholesterol is super high, and her doc recommended cutting down on beef and saturated fats. The recommendation here for more beef, eggs, and full-fat dairy is the exact opposite of what my friend needs to eat for her heart health. Absolutely bonkers.

This reminds me of how the Heated Rivalry boys said they ate like 10 eggs and 2 pounds of ground beef a day. I love them but that has haunted me a little ever since lol

I do always laugh at the diet-will-fix-chronic-conditions schtick, because I wonder, do they think diet would have prevented me from getting type 1 diabetes at barely a year old? My diverse diet of…. baby food, formula, and cut up grapes?

I haven't heard Shia LaBeouf mentioned in so long and I had to immediately take a break from the podcast to go listen to the song. Twice. https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI&si=kiOziEw0kd9y7d5Y Was slightly surprised neither of the terminally online hosts referenced it :P

Milk has been linked to eugenics and false ideas of racial hierarchy for over a century - Wellcome Collection in London did a whole exhibition called Milk! in 2023 and there was a section on milk being linked to racial 'purity' Milk | Wellcome Collection https://share.google/89wqzpglqSPpj9cMF

Evidently, in Japan, there is a stereotype about white people smelling like milk. I have NOT done ANY fact checking and am fully relying on a comedian's bit that I recently saw.

Saturated fats can raise LDL/ Apo b proteins which in turn increases risk of CAD and heart attack. That's why it's not a straight line

LIVID ABOUT BEANS

I hope you guys never stop doing these analyses. The average person does not have time to run down all the lies this administration tells. We need you!

Oh wow, I look forward to them replacing my WIC-mandated restriction to only skim or 1% milk to the MUCH healthier and more expensive whole milk…. Wait what? 🙄

They’re setting the ground work for fat and medically challenged people to be the new enemies of the state once they’ve finished their work of racial purity. There always has to be a villain to blame for why your life in America sucks and it can never be the corporations

Fun fact: you can cultivate a gut microbiome that will digest lactose for you if you are naturally lactose-intolerant. Apparently there's this group of cattle-herders in Kenya who are all lactose intolerant but drink a liter of milk a day on average. Also that's why milk tea and yoghurt drinks are so popular in East Asia even though most East Asians are lactose intolerant. TL:DR white supremacy defeated by yakults

I actually have to skip the clips of RFK talking that’s how upsetting his voice is

Yoooooo where my other sluts with Morton’s Neuromas at!??! 😛😛😛

This is extremely niche kiwi comedy, but applicable to this episode and to Maintenance Phase in general: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTtoJzNki8S/?igsh=MXhsOWRvanMwMjI2bg==

35 eggs a day sent me 😂 As a fat person I sometimes amuse myself by doing the math like this and it’s always wild. Thanks for the much needed laughs.

"water be-fizerer" is a fav new Michael-ism

So I have a graphic tee from 5 below that says "lactose tolerant" with a cow on it and explosions and stuff and it's usually perceived correctly as a joke but now im worried abt ppl thinking im a nazi bc they would totally wear that unironically

I became lactose intolerant after covid (fun side effect), so now if I want to eat dairy I just take lactase pills with it. If your "genetic superiority" vanishes after someone takes a 10¢ pill, it's not very superior

Interesting that they used kilograms in the guidelines and didn’t insist on changing it to pounds.

It's hard to describe how much joy I get from hearing Michael Hobbes say "befizzerer"

RFK does have a really solid way to make sure we are spending a lower percentage of health care costs on chronic conditions, y’all! You’ve gotta give em credit: here in South Carolina we are currently spending a huge amount of money on a measles outbreak! #winning- you either get better or die! Not chronic at all!

Did Aubry say "drinks with the boyshh" ?

As someone who's been vegan for ethical reasons for around 15 years now, I was going to say that I could imagine this making people at least 10 times more annoying to vegans and vegetarians because of all of the protein and dairy crap. And then they just went ahead and specifically name dropped us to be annoying to. So that's fun. (Also, a lot of stuff is fortified with B12 now. My B12 is totally fine on blood tests and I don't need to supplement it because it's already in a lot of things)

I listened to this episode while getting a cavity filling and all I heard thru the drilling was Aubrey and Michael’s laughter thank you for being there …. Actually I heard the RFK clips too rip

On the Asians as lactose intolerant thing: the Chinese Cooking Demystified people had a recent youtube video and blog post about this, and how it’s not exactly true. Think of boba tea. If Asians were all lactose intolerant the existence of boba tea, Koreans putting cheese on rice cakes, Hokkaido’s famous milk, and many other food choices wouldn’t make sense. Definitely recommend a watch.

why is living in the woods, actual cannibal Shia LaBeouf doing an art installation in NY??

Time to start living on suet cakes and eggs

Everything they do is an over the top reaction to liberal trends of the last 20 year. As vegetarianism and veganism has gotten more popular and normal, they have to run in the opposite direction. What could be more “anti-vegan” than steak, beef tallow and whole milk? Edit: typed this before I got to the last minute lol

I’d love Aubrey and Mike to talk about the book Perfection Salad by Laura Shapiro. The history of why we have “processed foods,” the way they were pushed evangelically the same way wellness people push “whole foods” now, the money and policy that went into it, the gender roles behind it… These ideas and policies are always changing and the people pushing then always believe they’re the only correct ones. And then we ignore the massive forces pushing us in one direction and talk about “individual choice” instead. Arghhhh

A minor point relatively speaking, but this CDC stat makes me LIVID. What the stat says is that 90% of health care spending is for PATIENTS with chronic disease. So if you have any chronic disease (which include ob***ty and like, back pain) but go to the doctor for the flu, THAT COUNTS in this stat. It does NOT say 90% of spending is FOR chronic disease, but it's clearly written so that people will read it that way. GRRRRRR

Aubrey on the Gaston Diet by these metrics 😂

The war on chronic disease unless it's caused by pollution from cars.

I'm a cancer genetic counselor and MOST of my patients have 5+ chronic conditions on top of cancer. I'm 32 and I have hypothyroidism, sleep apnea, back pain, IBS, depression, and autism, which are all chronic and none of them originated because of diet. The only one that's even really helped with dietary changes is the IBS but I still need medication in combination of that.

The minute I heard about the new food pyramid I thought “oh I need to hear what maintenance phase will say about this”

Maybe making sure all people have enough food 🥘.

i missed maintenance phase so much i just re-joined patreon 🥹

"Florals for spring. Groundbreaking." Made me guffaw 😆

Hearing that number of eggs is just like...why am I not surprised that RFK Jr. is nutritionally aligned with Gaston?

Just want to say that I adore you both and thank you for being a light in these dark times.

Re: men and low fat dairy - anyone remember the book “Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche”?

Mike got so distracted by the bad math, he missed RFK's assumption that all chronic illnesses can be averted by good food. (in clip around minute 8). Also wondering: where does roadkill land in the new food pyramid?

Re: the weird glazing of Dear Leader in the document - I noticed a similar thing in an FTC press release about a class action settlement (the Amazon Prime renewal settlement, for the curious) - it specifically lauds the “Trump-Vance FTC” for negotiating the settlement. The case was started by the Biden FTC in 2021, so you can see the difference in tone between their press releases and the Trump ones. It is really bizarre, and tbh pathetic.

I looked at a lot of studies about saturated fat from dairy because there were a bunch of articles in the past 2 or 3 years that said that dairy fat was fine. The studies show that sat fat from dairy is different than sat fat from meat, and is either neutral for raising cholesterol or, in the case of things like yogurt or kefir, is very heart healthy. Apparently, no one really bothered to compare sat fat from dairy with sat fat from meat, but just lumped them together. So drink whole milk but limit steak?

Love the rousing endorsement of "it's not like they're telling you to drink bleach"

As a member of the "master race" (HIGHLY debatable) and someone who is lactose intolerant, I am really conflicted about what this means for my identity. 😆

Remember when Michelle Obama tried to campaign for healthier diet and she was attacked for supposedly being anticapitalist or some shit. So she was forced to pivot to exercise instead, so BIG FOOD wouldn't lose profits

A Kraft single! Read the manosphere for filth.

At work someone referred to the image as a “food mirkin”, and that’s what it is to me.

God, I -wish- most of my tax dollars went to providing health care instead of making defense contractors rich.

Just want to add that, if you have any signs of kidney disease or kidney problems, eating even a normal amount of protein is extremely bad.

I said it elsewhere, but my favorite part of the Dietary Guidelines presser is where you can see Dr. Oz's soul leave his body as he rambles through the new guidance on alcohol.

Having lactose tolerance as a new way to designate someone as a member of the master race is a new level of absurd. My sister, who is pro- RFK Jr/antivaxx also made some comment about how insects are not a good source of protein if you're white or from the Northern Hemisphere as they were originally eaten by people from equatorial regions. She said something about the fact that insects contain chitin, which is indigestible, makes them an inappropriate source of protein for white people, or something. Nevermind that no one can digest chitin and that this in and of itself is not a reason to not eat insects. She's also really into beef tallow and raw milk. 🙄

I know there are bigger issues but: the Real Food website at the very very bottom has a carousel that says “Eat Real” and then cycles through labeled illustrations like “Watermelon” “Apple” “Steak” “Butter” but… they don’t provide any information and you can’t click on them? It’s just labeled pictures. So weird?!

Loved the episode. I think one of the problems with things like an official recommendation for consuming absurd amounts of protein is when you are receiving treatment for a chronic illness it will always be your fault because you're not meeting an insane standard. As a middle aged woman, I constantly have to prove to the doctor that I'm eating enough protein. It feels like I'm eating low fat plain Greek yogurt, tuna, cottage cheese, and hard boiled eggs like it's my job.

WHOLE 🍞 GRAINS 🍞 EPISODE 🍞 (please)

Vegan here whose blood tests showed an over abundance of B12, even after limiting my supplementation.

I haven't listened yet but being able to add you to my podcast app is great!

Outside of the clear dog whistle of the importance of whole milk, it wasn’t actually missing in schools. Only about 12 states had districts that opted to fully remove whole milk options so they could simplify the caloric requirements in school lunches. The rest of the schools had the option to provide a fruit or vegetable in lieu of other sides/dessert. From 2010 (around the time my kids entered public school, so there’s also my own anecdotal observation) to now, there’s no public information that any school in my state stopped providing whole milk. The constant barrage of misinformation and rage baiting is tiresome.

Just wanted to send my condolences for your loss, Aubrie. My BIL died of cancer in 2021. He was only 61 and remained outraged at the injustice that HE got deadly cancer until the day he died. He couldn't fathom how his fat wife would out live him. It was so sad to see him waste the meager energy he had on that resentment.

I can not tell you how many times I have gone on a tirade with my ED-recovery dietician about the absurd sexual dimorphism of the diet sphere! I'm trans, so I grew up and gained an ED in skeleton girl 00s and moved into having to deal with the 'I each the same thing everyday, its called biohacking, you soy boy cuck' 2020s. To be actually for real, it's all just fucking gamergate butthurt that was never soothed and spread to younger men. That's it. Childish reactionary bs. "Low fat is for ladies. What do you mean I need to watch my cholesterol? Fuk u I'm gonna eat soooo much meat now!" They'll switch it up once the see a swell of women influencers pushing protein and macro tracking...

Did I say John Hopkins? I meant John Hopkins...burg. A John Hopkinsburg study.

I can never get over his voice

I definitely want an episode on whole grains. Although the end result is probably “eat more fiber,” since whole wheat has more fiber than white flour. But maybe a side discussion of corn would be cool. I live in the southwest so I want all the corn and beans. Also, the brief discussion on saturated fats was really good info and I need more!!

This is all so infuriating. Any implication that my son (or me, his mother) CAUSED his Crohn’s is just VILE. And the fact that part of his early treatment was a highly processed nutritional drink prescribed by his pediatric GI and provided by our insurance (and delivered to our door by the crate)…..😑

The protein calculations reminded me of a friend who briefly tried to follow the pregnancy protein recommendations...and they are similarly absurd.

Morton’s Neuroma gang rise up

Pretending this administration is bringing back “scientific integrity” is so infuriating. As a phd student, I’ve seen students fired, projects shuttered, and so much chaos as a direct result of their changes!!

The next food pyramid won’t be a square. It’ll be a sphere, the manosphere. None of that rabbit food in America, snowflakes. We will eat lab grown meat and supplements and we’ll all be so dang healthy!

I was a vegetarian/pescatarian for 10 years and the way conservatives absolutely melted down and crashed out when *they* asked me about it - was extremely funny and annoying. I wish I cared about anything as much as they cared about a person willingly not eating meat.

FOOD FUNNEL lmfao

Here to say as a microbiologist working with microbes from volcanic hot springs I found the egg joke at 33min the greatest joke of all time

important episode ! 🙏 grateful for your perspective, research, and humor, aubrey and mike !

I got diagnosed with ulcerative colitis last year, and the blaming yourself for the illness is shitty enough already, I don't need the government's help 🙄

And here I was thinking I 90% of Federal spending went to fraudulent daycares here in the Twin Cities. Turns out it’s healthcare. So glad they cleared that up! /s

I love annoying people by pointing out that popcorn is a whole grain. 🍿

I’ve been a (pasteurized) whole milk drinker since 2014ish to help with calcium absorption and it’s been wild to see the slow change in reactions when I order a whole milk latte - definitely has slowly become more right wing coded

eggs are to me as beans are to aubrey. i feel like i could house 35 eggs in a day no problem 💪🍳

The government didn't outsource the web design; one of the founders of AirBNB is now jazzing up sites after Doge gutted digital agencies - https://www.fastcompany.com/91458973/chief-design-officer-joe-gebbia-reshaping-the-government

I've been saying since the whole raw milk/beef tallow thing became associated with RFK Jr. that I'm certain he's getting paid by the cattle industry. I'm also a weirdo who drinks whole milk regularly and I hate to have say I just like it in a...not-Nazi way. 😭 The dog whistles have gotten so fucking weird.

Something else really frustrating about the protein guideline shift as we spiral into a recession is that protein is the most expensive macronutrient.

Not me waking up to this and feeling more energized automatically at the prospect of getting to listen to these two later in the day. Yay!

I simply cannot wait for them to explain how they will make all this “whole food” available to everyone like he pretends they will in his speech. Especially since they are so intent on cutting food stamps, spending less on social programs, etc. (Joking I know they don’t give a crap)

RFK promoting the "Gaston from Beauty and the Beast" diet

As a vegetarian, I feel personally attacked. (Jk, they're coming for me for a WHOLE lot of other shit first)

I love Mike's tireless commitment to hating cars and refusing to drive.

I desperately need 56:39-56:41 as an isolated sound bite

The irony with the low fat thing is that non-fat Greek yogurt has the MOST protein of any yogurt I've found, which I discovered due to my protein anxiety phase during the so called "War on Protein" era 😅 A lot of low fat things, like tuna, have higher protein counts than the fattier things, like sardines!

i developed full blown asthma at 19 years old after living in black mold infested apartment in san francisco for a year that caused recurrent bouts of pneumonia. shall i blame the food i was eating (or rather not, since i was deep in an ED at this time), or shall i blame the landlord who charged $3100 for rent (in 2016!) and would only ever pAINT OVER the black mold instead of fixing the root issue? the length these clowns will go to trying to convince themselves the body is a machine that can be controlled and optimized is wild to me 🤡 ya can’t outrun disability, it’s part of having a body. 🙃🙃🙃

i'm about to listen, but my initial thought was a truly cringey joke: new food pyramid, more like new food pyramid scheme! :3 i hope it's punny enough to make audrey laugh

Seconding the comment about colon cancer. The new guidelines’ impact on the rise of colon cancer really concern me. I had many of the symptoms of colon cancer starting at age 29 and had to learn so much about the rise of colon cancer among young people. I ended up having an autoimmune disease but remain an advocate for colon cancer awareness (and have to have regular colonoscopies 😞)

RFK's spasmodic dysphonia is a chronic condition. So, irony? As for the grams of protein recommendation: I used to know a competitive bodybuilder. He always said the recommendation was 1 g of protein per pound, which works out to 2.2 g per kilogram. Given how many muscleheads are floating around in MAGA circles, I wonder if that was behind the higher recommendation.

Would you ever do an episode about the rise in colon cancer among younger people? Every article I see about it, the doctors say the #1 risk factor for colon cancer is obesity–while also acknowledging that the young patients they are seeing with new diagnoses are not obese.

My partner developed type 1 diabetes as an adult and the first thing their mom said to them was how could you let this happen to yourself. Like ma'am first of all this is an autoimmune disease. And even if it wasn't shut up why would that help the situation.

How dare you make me Listen to His Voice

In my late 20s I moved to New York City and got into woo woo health blog homeopathy they’re killing naturopaths and stuff because I felt like I was smarter and better than everyone by finding this lesser known knowledge. I had never heard about it in my small town Midwest upbringing. I felt more in control of my body and health. I didn’t have health insurance and I thought chemicals and medicine must be bad and big pharmaceutical companies just wanted money. I have always been a pretty far left person. This podcast has helped me snap out of my food issues.

My boss said he is in remission from cancer because he goes to a hunting lodge monthly and eats only elk…

The last line got me thinking "What if I told you we could turn government dietary guidelines.... into squares"

Love that white supremacists decided being able to drink milk was a sign of being the natural masters of the world and conveniently ignored the fact that their skin hurts if they are out in the sun too long.

Oh my god. So is this where Trump is getting his "ending 8 wars" rhetoric? He's counting the fucking "war on protein" ??

Health "advice" from RFK, a dude who sounds like he's drawing his last breath 🙃

Anyone else learn about Morton’s Neuroma from Golden Girls? Michael being Dorothy totally tracks.

as soon as I saw this monstrosity i have been waiting for this episode

Love that between the lbs-to-kg math in this ep and the Sarah Silverman affair in the American Canto IBCK ep, Michael is establishing himself as fully willing to get owned by his co-hosts and never edit it out lmao

What a business opportunity! A restaurant serving two dozen egg omelets!

I was waiting to hear how many beans you need to eat to hit your protein goals 🫘

The propaganda in every government release is so tiring. I got one from EPA on Tuesday (as part of work) that explicitly blamed the Biden administration for supporting animal testing as part of a message that the EPA will be reducing animal testing and developing non-animal methods. Come on guys — just tell us the good thing you are doing; don’t make it a petty burn.

Waking up two days in a row to Michael Hobbes bonus episodes?! It's better than Christmas!

Aubrey, I checked for you - you need 14 cups of beans a day to meet your protein needs 🫘🫘🫘

<- continuing to eat beans out of spite

Yay!!!!! Can’t wait to listen to

I agree that low-fat is female coded and not promoted to men, but also the higher fat ones just taste better! 10% yogurt, whole milk, whole milk cottage cheese, regular cheese, they are just better tasting than their low fat versions. I prefer to just eat less of a tastier food. I am a man tho, so maybe I'm falling into the marketing (to Nazis) trap.

I laughed so hard when Mike said that protein deficiency basically never happens in men, because of a reality show I saw once where 4 families lived like they were in colonial times & one of the dads had a big tantrum about how he felt like he was dying because he wasn't getting enough protein, to the point that the show producers brought in doctors to check him, and it turned out he was just super dehydrated because he didn't know to up his water intake while doing physical work out in the sun 🤣

The “war on protein” line feels like it’s a coded “war on veganism”

It took me by suprise when rfk jr started speaking, i think i heard him speak once, when he was still running for president.

"Food-like substances." Please launch me into space.