New CSP 0.2.3p211

why my triples screen dont work

Why do I install Pure, but Rain doesn't work for me?

To be honest, I was never really happy with the appearance of Pure after switching from Sol. I was hoping LCS would get you back to the drawing board a bit and maybe reexamine some aspects of Pure's look.

Good evening, I'm sorry but I have to figure out why I don't see lightning during thunderstorms. I have the latest version installed. this is the first time I've made a query, hopefully you can help me as I really enjoyed driving in the rain and seeing the lightning on the horizon at night illuminating the asphalt while it was raining.

ga: Pure 0.271 Highres mediafire: Pure 0.271

Is not worth it Peter PR is good the way it is the last picture is also just right if one downloads it and installs it properly but that LCS I don't think it's worth redoing pure from the ground up it's gonna cause more complications and heart aches for you in the long run I say all that to say I get it if you don't do it I wont if something's not broken why fix it you might wind up breaking it ha ha

I also need CSP 0.2.3, why can't I find a clear link to install it ?

Hi, When i use live weather it's always an hour ahead of real time no matter which track I use it's always an hour ahead in the specific timezone. what am I doing wrong? Using Pure 0.254

Where is the Link for the CSP... Not the Pure... I need the CSP

How do I download?

Hey how do I make “RADAR” work with pure

la mejor inversion de calidad que hice en un juego y solo me a costado 1 dolar gracias por este mod maraviloso😊

Where is the link man, please we want to enyoy your work

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Bro how you download CSP.

can you guys help me with the rain i have pure and hear it but dont see it

Will the weather stuff be released via the normal CSP channel’s at some point? Or do I have to patreon that as well?

hey, it might be a good idea to give a link to download this stuff after we pay eh? i want my money back!!!!!!! where is the stuff????????

i have csp 0.2.3p211 but i don't see the lcs toggle in weatherFX, does that mean it's disabled by default ?

Are there any plans to add actual lightning like in sol to pure?

where is the link for the new pure

where is the link for it?

Hi just Joined! wondering if I'm expected to pay more to patron to get pure? if so how do I cancel my membership!

wheres the download link

hey i managed to install pure! everything i run assetto corsa through content manager it just shows mw a black screen with the smoke from my car, when i crash i can see the outline of my car. ive been messing around with pure settings to try to fix it but nothing has worked.

sooo many bugs and broken stuff LOL yeah it works BUT HOW :D Just posted this on Ilijas page..... you 2 need to sit together and figure this shiat out LOL why there is always a chase you after him and AEGIS for example after you LOL just make a chat you 3 and discuss changes and how you can follow them and keep this up to date but stable and working :D "Not sure who to blame you or Peter LOL how about you two sit together and figure this shiat out? :D So many bugs and broken stuff now LOL Glass reflecting alien ships on a clear day, headlight flares visible thru objects and track even when car is not, so many random materials like Plastic MultyMapNMs are just shiny now like chrome etc to mentioned few.... going bac to previous one and will stayaway till you 2 get this under control :D "

honestly you should have just waited until the pure guy was caught up this seems like a mess

hey when I uninstall sol and install pure it says ''Cannot preform a cycling copy''

i can't find this option in my csp menu 🤔 "activating/deactivating LCS in weatherFX settings"

Pure planner app doesnt show in the game but i activated it in content manager i dont know what to do

i have some problems with pure. I have csp 0.2.2, but when im trying to turn rain on, its not working.

Sounds like it could be the end of pure in the near future if CSP is heading that way.

Thank you Peter. I cant wait to see your next mod. I hope you continue with Pure!

thanks for these mod u make

time to leave this place

I watched the video but it does not create a pure file

where download

I need help with my Weather thing, When i press rain there is no rain but the atmosphere changes and there are also sounds of rain but no rain

Running it and I notice there's no pre-loaded online setups (car configs) when I join the servers which are uploaded by others for a specific car and track. This version of CSP doesn't display the window. Any fixes for this?

i redy join how i can find the link to dwlnd pure ???

where to download?

I need help my pure is pitch black

For now, I am stick with PURE, the look and feel of everything on PURE it's just great, there are so many details. LCS will take a lot of time to rework it and get fixed to a worthy version. LCS once be adapted and fixed, will be great also, a nice look update for AC, but I don't mind the wait, whatever it takes, PURE in the mean while still being the best option. Thanks Peter for your amazing work for so many years.

Why is Pure so bright for me

Found it thank you :)

New member, where is the download for pure

Hi there

I'm a bit confused. Should I be running 0.2.2 or 0.2.3p211 ? And one has LCS support and does not yet? Any help understanding would be appreciated. Thanks

Pour information viens de faire un essai sur SPA tout est normal niveau éclairage avec LCS ou PURE. For information, just did a test on SPA, everything is normal in terms of lighting with LCS or PURE.

I've found theres at least one issue between the new CSP update and pure in that even when not using LCS it breaks the headlights on many modded cars, even well made ones, because the emissive star from the headlights appears floating several feet above the headlights instead of in front of the bulbs, at least on my computer. if anyone knows a fix that'd be lovely because I had to switch to the old version with how much that bothered me.

hey where i can find the link to download

So they cannot continue with the development together, they are separated

Pure makes a difference in terms of versatility and functionality, it is the best, it should just be integrated with the new CSP.

whats LCS?

where could i download pure o.270

With latest csp on LAC my cars are spawning with wheels half way in the ground. Revert to previous version fixed it

Peter m when l install pure my game stays at 30fps and I’m on an 3090 i9 10900kf how do I fix?!

I'll stick with Pure. It looks much better in my opinion.

In addition to my previous comment, Peter, it occurred to me to ask: Have you tried enabling LCS and seeing exactly how bad the impact is? It might be helpful to know if you're looking at targeted fixes or a total rewrite.

I understand Peter's apparent frustration with the need to perform re-development in order to support such a fundamental change. That said, the LCS implementation seems to be a vastly improved foundation on which to build -- the comparison screenshots that Ilja provided make a very strong case and it seems clear that LCS results in superior rendering quality for the foundation that Pure relies on and would likely allow future development with less overall struggle to make things look good. The difficulty is that it comes at the cost of requiring major changes to Pure in order to be supported. Peter, do you have a sense of what would need to actually change? It seems (from the outside) like all your work on the planner, the systems, and the logic implementation of the effects would carry-over. I suspect the main area of difference would be the calculations themselves. I don't know if that is 10% of the Pure codebase or 99% of the Pure codebase -- just asking the question. Regardless of all that, I think there are two main things to consider: 1) Does everything really need to be done twice going forward? I can't see people preferring to ignore the benefits that LCS offers. If pure adopted LCS, it seems like you could reasonably say "this is the only path now". 2) I don't necessarily think that Pure would need to support the entire feature-set all at once. As part of your development process, you've been adding features over time (like lightning, for example). If you started a branch that supported LCS but only enabled features as and when you had time to implement them, you could build progress toward a feature-complete version without the stress of needing to deliver everything at the same time. That would also let people choose for themselves what they want. Speaking for myself, I would personally prefer to see work on LCS happen before work on other things (though I understand you're probably close to being done with your current ground fog project). That is just my preference, though. I think that Pure, with or without LCS, is an excellent looking piece of art but it really feels like LCS will end up being the path forward for AC and it would be ideal if Pure supported it (even at reduced levels).

I installed CSP 0.2.3-preview211, then reinstalled Pure to make sure everything was properly installed. The toggle for "Use linear color space" is available only when weather style is set to "Default". When the weather style is set to "Pure" the toggle is not visible. It seems that when Pure weather is enabled LCS is disabled by default, and cannot be accidentally enabled, so no action has to be taken to get Pure working with latest CSP. Only possible issue I found is that the Pure Checklist in Pure Config complains about ReflectionsFX not using physically-based sampling. This is due to the checklist function PureConfig_get_RefIBL not getting a proper return, since the the setting was changed from USE_PROPER_IBL to USE_PROPER_IBL2 in the CSP file "reflections_fx.ini". I doubt this will cause issues, since the setting is still enabled in the in the file. I believe this was done as part of the decluttering mentioned in the x4fab patreon post. That is why these settings are no longer visible in the CSP settings inside CM, since there would be no reason to disable them.

There is no LCS in weatherFX

New CSP 0.2.3p211 can be used without any problems

So, it’s been over 24 hours since I installed and ran the latest csp preview version 0.2.3p211, and here are my thoughts, especially with a lot being said about LCS and whether it should be integrated with Pure. First of all, I think LCS has completely changed the game visually. Assetto Corsa visuals have been one of the best if not the best in the sim racing industry, a big thank you to Ilja, Peter, and a massive world of pp-filter modders who transformed how the game looks, especially when it comes to lighting. However, I run a HDR monitor, I prefer gaming in HDR, and I had persistent issues of light sources often getting too blown out, creating a weird white smear on the overall image. I would balance this out with gamma corrections or YEBIS brightness adjustments but it was hard getting this white tint off the image. Overall, the shading looked a bit dated, while the lighting was impeccable. This problem, at least in my experience, was not limited to HDR use alone. Even in SDR, I couldn’t get rid of this white smear or stain, and the blow out of light sources, especially at night. LCS, so far in my use, has solved these problems. There’s ZERO white smear on the image anymore. Moreover, light sources now have the right intensity. No weird blowouts that make it seem like someone is flashing several arc bulbs to your face, while that is not the case. The biggest noticeable difference is with night races, especially in notorious tracks like Jeddah. The street lights and lamps now have the right intensity. You don’t feel like you’re in a middle of flashbang attack. And the biggest win for this is that the shading now looks very modern. Colors are more accurate, vivid, distinguishable, and the overall image looks nicer. Assetto Corsa now completely looks like a modern sim. I’ve revisited my old replays, took new screenshots, and the difference is massive. LCS is transformative. Of course, there’s the debate that the image can get a bit too contrast-y. That’s a fair assessment. But I think that’s something that, apart from Ilja’s continuous development, pp-filter modders can easily tune to their liking and the “photorealism” effect they want to achieve. Anyway, that’s what pp-filters are for. But where does Pure stand in all this? Well, to use LCS, for now, you must use the default weather controller, since Pure doesn’t support it yet. Now I’ve been using Pure for years now and Peter’s work is incredible. I understand, from his post, that integrating LCS into Pure will be a ton of work given most code must be refactored. As a guy who does software, I know how terrible refactoring can be from a workload perspective. But if the new technology is setting up an amazing foundation for future development, I think it’s worth it. Moreover, LCS doesn’t replace Pure. In fact, from my understanding of Ilja’s post, it will give Pure and pp-filter modders a more robust and powerful foundation to build their work, and achieve far excellent results than what’s been possible so far. LCS provides a new and incredible way to do lighting, exposure, and colors. And from my assessment, going back and forth between gamma and linear space implementations, linear space is more superior. So, this is my appeal to Ilja and Peter. Let’s form a path towards LCS being the gold standard for AC. The refactoring will take a while and probably be painful, but am sure the results will keep the community excited and transform our beloved sim completely, from its already incredible state. I think Pure with LCS will look much much better and probably be easier to develop once everything comes together after refactoring. Personally, am okay with small but eye-opening updates, even on the side of the normal Pure updates, showing what a potential Pure with LCS implementation would look like. Say, just the 8k skydomes but in LCS? How will they look? Then eventually, see if the community likes it and take the jump. I think that’s a nice approach to adopting LCS. Sorry for the long comment, but at least these are my two cents. Keep up the amazing work Ilja and Peter! The work you do is out of this world. PS: I’ve posted this on both patreons to help get the message across and possibly get this debate going productively. Let’s keep supporting the incredible work from Peter and Ilja. Also, try the new curb physics. My goodness curbs are 1000x better. I can now eat them like breakfast

Pure is the best for sure, but the difference in performance is vaste between LCD and Pure. I spend 4 hours last night and with LCD i can maintane 90fps with good quality (not pure quality) but solve my fps problem with my meta 3 and rtx 3080. Nevertheless when you are going to start the race with LCD and Pure at the same time, there is a second or 2 where you can appreciate how pure could be with LCD and looks awesome, after this moment, the screen goes brown and lost the colours :(

Personally, it seems to me that we achieve such a level of realism with Pure that it would be a shame to deprive ourselves of it, for suggestive visual improvements in rendering. With or without rain, it makes a clear difference, but a more or less clear reflection is like buying high-end Hi-Fi equipment, and listening the music with windows open and the noise of the street. I choose Pure! Personnellement, il me semble que l'on arrive à un tel niveau de réalisme avec Pure, qu'il serait dommage de s'en priver pour des améliorations visuelles suggestives de rendu. Avec ou sans pluie, ça fait une nette différence, mais un reflet plus ou moins net, c'est comme acheter un équipement Hi-Fi haut de gamme et écouter sa musique avec la fenêtre ouverte et le bruit de la rue. Je fais le choix de Pure !

and here's me thinking that you and Ilja actually WORKED TOGETHER on these projects....i think you both should take a 6 month holiday so we can all catch our breath...you have both created a beautiful monster!

Your work has been amazing. I can only hope you find the time, energy, and worth to do the rewriting. I'll happily wait for months just to see it happen and I'll keep supporting the project. But if you don't, I can understand that too!

So in my opinion LCS is a thing all of us who want greater Visual fidelity will highly appreciate. If the change gonna be as big as we did compare it's gonna be Amazing. Especially since it makes reflections wayy better and since this was a weak point for quite a while now it would be worth it for me, even if this is at the end a long wait.

Dearest Peter, can I ask you an off-topic question? Can you explain to me how you create such an incredible app? You're a programmer I guess, right? I am fascinated by your preparation, simply incredible!

Tnx though for the outstanding work I will stay with the skydomes and everything PURE delivers for immersion to AC

Spent a few hours playing with the new CSP, LCS and Pure tonight. Here are my takeaways: I had some weird anti-aliasing issues with LCS - flickering edges, reflection issues. Improved by turning off AA in ExtraFX. Switching back to default weather scripts reminded me how great Pure planner is. Lighting effects in Pure are still far superior - LCS seems too vivid, unrealistic in all weathers to me. Even after some tweaks to natural PPF, Pure was way better. No noticeable improvement in performance/FPS on LCS but I didn't test this properly. The new CSP worked fine with Pure on my setup. LCS is only available with default weather script, so no need to hold off on updating imo.

Yeah, the new CSP With LCS is really nice with bug fixes, but having to use Default Weather with no Skydomes is so ugly and for some reason the lighting has too much hue and not having realistic lightning coming from the Sun or Sky makes the game look bland but aside from that the LCS really does it job well. PURE + LCS will be some dope stuff.

I always thought there was a conjoined effort/agenda on CSP and Pure working towards a common future, this latest update kinda derails this so maybe I had just assumed something thats not the case. Will hold out on latest CSP until you come back with a concrete decision if integration is just not worth the time and effort. Excited to see the fog implementation.

That is a shame and sorry to hear this.There is no AC without Pure...it looks awesome.To rewrite and start from scratch sounds like alot of work...to refine tune everything again it might take till christmas...2026...

I really like the look with linear color space in VR + AC Head Physics 1.3b. Older mid quality tracks look better, newer high quality tracks look as close to realistic as we can probably get in AC. LCS is great but Pure is needed to complete the experience with all the weather features and to finetune the lighting. I think getting linear color space working with Pure would set a very high bar for racing/sim games.

Interested to hear your thoughts - with this linear colour space built into pure, i.e. if you went to the effort to include it, how much would it gain? Would it be better at all?

That's exactly the post I was expecting to read ever since preview 211 was released yesterday. The first thoughts after reading its release notes were along the lines of "this potentially can break *anything*", not just Pure. And I was wondering if IJ and PB had been working together and how big of a deal would be to make Pure compatible with LCS. Now I have my answers. I have to say that as long as CSP with LCS off and Pure can live together with no issues I'll keep supporting both projects. But if I need to choose, I'll probably freeze CSP to the last compatible version and keep supporting Pure. Also because, again, having amassed quite a lot of mods I have potentially lots to lose if LCS becomes the standard.

Just tried the update with the Default wfx and Default PP Filter, also tried it with the Natural PP Filter. Toggling between LCS on / off I’m seeing terrible result with LCS, far too much Yellow and some car colours are particularly off hue. I haven’t bothered testing different times of day or weather types as it’s way off what I’m used to with Pure and I have some great weather plans so going back to the Pure wfx.

Thanks for the clarification. This is bad news. With LCS shadows and colours looks even more realistic specially in VR. But in the other hand the new fog is something I’ve been waiting for a long time in general all the new pure shaders are simply amazing. I hope you find an easier way to integrate it in the next future. Thanks for your work!

For me with the latest pure with pervious CSP on VR have been the most stable and realistic setup i ever had. Im waiting for upcoming pure 270.

Thanks for your disclaimer Peter, very fair. Now a realistic question: what other features of Pure are broken with the new CSP besides the LCS thing? Can someone be more precise with this? (Im asking because the new CSP corrected many issues i had with AI and im very happy with this. I can go without the LCS thing just to have Pure and the new AI working together) ---- If there is other issues in Pure with the new CSP can these be corrected ASIDE the LCS? ---- Thanks!!

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You and Ilja are the two biggest modders for Assetto since years now. How can it be you both dont even communicate before Ilja makes such big changes in CSP - if its not even really worth it? A real shame that now we all get split up in deciding to go with csp only or stay with pure :-/

hi friends, I followed the tutorial than deleted sol and installed pure but when i come to contant manager there is no sol anymore also no pure.

Fine on my system too running Pure with latest Preview

Been running this preview for a few days now with latest Pure ans have not noticed any problems. So i guess it's just fine. Content Manager doesn't allow you to turn on LCS for Pure anyway.

I think it's definitely worth updating to the new CSP and I think I've found a nice and realistic looking solution for now that works fine for me: I've turned LCS on and as post processing filter I'm using your "Pure Linear Mode". This might be doubling things but it just looks very realistic in terms of the lighting to me and I'd love to see THIS combined with your amazing weather FX some time in the future. I'm always excited about what you have in the making for Pure and I totally understand that this all means a huge amount of rework BUT my personal opinion: Yes, this would be worth it. Thank you for all your work so far!

Hello Peter, why not work in collaboration with IIja ? I have the impression that this time he sabotaged all your work and God knows if you did any. But I'm going to go back to the correct version of CSP so that PURE can work as before where it was perfect for me! I would like to take this opportunity to thank you Peter for giving us the opportunity to continue to have fun on assetto corsa

Ich checke und werds im Video ansprechen

I’m still using pure with the new csp without LCS. The new physics options Ilja has introduced are very fun

Il faudrait sans doute mettre mes yeux à jour ! Pour moi, avec Csp 0.2.3 p1 et avec Pure c'est parfait ! Je ne changerai rien et j'attends Pure 0.270. I should probably update my eyes ! For me, with Csp 0.2.3 p1 and Pure it's perfect! I won't change anything and I'm waiting for Pure 0.270.

I'll try both and will keep supporting you both anyway !

Hi Peter, that's sad news, but your comment is 100% perspicuous. I think I can feel your frustration... I had a brief check of updated CSP and was under the impression that it was a good step forward in terms of performance. Also the looks with updated shaders were very pleasing to my eyes. Man now I feel like I am sitting between two chairs and don't know what to do.. Guess I will add some further comparison and choose whatever I choose. One thing remains: I'll keep supporting you! Heads up. Life goes on..

Thanks for posting this, i was getting exhausted trying to explain this to others even though X4 made it made it clear in his release notes...

Thank you for the update. The immense effort you've dedicated to improving this beloved game is truly remarkable. I personally pledge to continue supporting you. While I can't fathom the frustration you might be experiencing, I firmly believe that challenges can be overcome. Take the time you need; your well-being matters more than the pace of updates. 👏🏻

I installed the new CSP and I'm not using the default weather, just the Pure as always and the game is looking pretty much the same.

I’m not updating , the updates are not worth loosing Pure over some minor changes I can’t even see

VR user here on the lastest of both pure and csp. I ran the install bat as admin after installing the new csp. Worked great