DIRECTOR'S CUT: Therapist Reacts to THE IRON GIANT
How do you learn to make choices for yourself?
Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright react (and cry) to The Iron Giant. They talk about choosing who you want to be and how the movie tackles life and death in a mature and age-appropriate way. Jonathan explains how the giant’s transformation from following programming to making its own choices mirrors our psychological journeys. And Alan talks about the innovative combination of CGI and hand-drawn animation and how animators articulate the giant’s emotions on a robot face.
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I watched it as a 14 year old and it broke me❤
I watched this movie all the time as a kid, but it's been a couple decades. Just bought it so I can watch it again.
This has always been one of my favorite movies. I remember watching it for the first time on VHS when I was 4 or 5. It's my go to when I've been hurt, so I can cry and also remind myself I can be the bigger person.
Did anyone else feel a swell of joy when the trailer for MultiVersus had Iron Giant meeting Superman?😭
I thought about the whole choice versus no choice. And I thought of something. I think that while we do have choice, in some ways our nature and nurture can either limit or expand the choices that we are aware of. For example. My mother is a classic narcissist and emotionally manipulative and abusive in every way (except physically and sexually thankfully). She pretty much groomed me to be a target for abusers. And I found myself in an abusive relationship as an adult and not once did I see that I had the choice to leave. I had it, for sure, but I didn't see it. I ended up being removed from the situation by external factors. Not by my choice. The thought never occurred to me that I could leave. Cause that was never an option for me as a child. I was definitely trapped. So I carried that viewpoint with me into adulthood and it limited my choices.
Oof I'm so glad I waited to be home to watch this! I was about to start it at work and realized I was surely going to be crying a bit too much so I waited. Now I can cry in the comfort of my home hahahaha! I love to hear all the little behind the scenes stories about the filmmakers. The feeling it gives me is hard to describe, but it's comfort mixed with gratefulness and excitement all at the same time. Maybe a bit of sadness too when I think of it. Thank you yall <3
All dogs go to heaven. 😂
22:30 Diogenes of Sinope may have something to say about that... Philosophy humor, for those who get it.
Please do Atlantis!! Love everything yall do.
How bad is killing for you? Well, the WW2 draft provides an interesting statistic. I believe it was counting just US troops, or possibly all the allied nations, but either way they found that out of these kids, after being indoctrinated and trained to fight and fed the worst horror stories about the Nazis they were going to fight, once they were in the field and in many cases fired upon, 50% refused to fire at the enemy. Even in that spectacularly extreme circumstance, half of the people were not capable of killing. I think that speaks well of us.
Such a good movie!!#cryingwithsuperman!
To this day, the moment that truly touches my heart the most (while yes, the whole movie touched my heart anyways) was when Hogarth talked to the Giant about death: "I know you feel bad about the deer, but it's not your fault. Things die. It's part of life. It's bad to kill...but it's not bad to die." --- GOSH. 😭 The profound quality of that scene; such honest emotion and wisdom, especially from a child. I miss the animated films that were so unafraid to go deep with dark and difficult themes. I swear kids in the audience are way wiser and more capable of absorbing these things than present day executives give them credit for. *Also fully agree with Alan: this is my personal favorite work of Jen Anniston. I have NEVER heard such conviction in her acting than when she screamed "No! Stop! MY SON IS OUT THERE!" That scene still gives me a chill
I cried a bucket load when I saw this for the first time , I was an emotional wreck , I’m with you Alan Seawright 🥺☮️💔
Yall should do Isle of Dogs!!!
Love this episode, I swear this ending is right up there with Ralph's fall and the Bad Anon affirmation at the end of Wreak It Ralph. It gets me every time.
I liked that you guys used that Man of Steel scene to demonstrate how hard it is to kill. The DC universe, despite how dark it can be sometimes, emphasizes the no kill rule with their heroes. So to see Superman kill someone like that was very surprising, especially since it wasn't even an evil version of superman. That scene where he got on his knees and screamed after what he did was so powerful. Henry Cavill is such a good actor, you know.
That was one of my favorite scenes in Superman. He was begging Zod to stop but he wouldn't listen or change his programming so to save the family he had to kill him. Falling to his knees and screaming was just so gut wrenching. I sometimes wonder what he would've done if Lois hadn't been there.
I was PRAYING for this to be an episode and y'all went and released it on my birthday 😭 speed racer next year?
We just shot a Speed Racer episode, so it'll be coming in a few months!
Me, an asd guy who's always identified with Superman and with the Iron Giant: * weeping * 😭💙😭💙 #cryingwithsuperman
20 seconds in, and I know I'm gonna cry
THANK YOU for covering this movie!! It's a small thing, but thanks for calling out the WB marketing department on the shameful way they completely did NOT market this movie, at all. It came out when my kids were little, I saw exactly *one* ad for it before it came to theatres. It was in our local theatre for, as I recall, one week. One. week. Which happened to be a week we couldn't arrange to see it. And then it was gone. So we had to wait for it to finally come out on DVD. Seems to me WB has a long track record of picking up/funding great movies that they then (apparently deliberately) tank through not marketing, or marketing incredibly badly.
I heard this from a another channel called filmjoy and I don’t want to take credit for saying this. But just the simple act of learning to understand someone can be the very reason they help you. Case in point in this movie the military fears something and decides to eradicate the iron giant but just by someone going out of their way to show compassion is the very reason they are saved. Just by be understanding and compassionate, those people could one day be the ones saving you. This movie is near and dear to my heart, this was my Bambi movie, this was my movie about empathy, this was the first movie I cried to. Similar to you Alan I cry because I see myself, willing to be a hero when I need to. I love getting help people, knowing I can make their day just a little bit better. Even if it’s just a laugh or a simple smile, I show that I care. I will always say “Be the person that is in the story at the dinner table.” This will always be my favorite animated movie. The message the fun the animation. But I think it is what shaped me to who I am today.
The score by Michael Kamen indeed does so much of the emotional movement throughout the film, to the point you can visualize the scene without having a reference to attach it to, it’s a masterpiece within itself. I sometimes find myself humming the music when I’m just daydreaming or going about my day The Iron Giant is one of my most favorite films since childhood Watching along with Jonathan and Alan felt as good as watching the film for the first time, it’s also nice to cry alongside Alan and not feeling alone while doing so :') Cinema Therapy heals the heart ❤️
So I watched this while waiting for a doctors appointment. Then I went home, and I watched the movie. Then I watched this again. The whole thing is just perfectly beautifully done. That said, there is a cynical part of me that, after addressing the movie three times in one day, wonders why he didn't just shoot the missile. It would have undercut the point but yeah... I can't unthink it now. Regardless! I still love the movie. I hadn't watched it since I got into playing music and not just listening to it and am finally appreciating how powerful the score is. I also noticed that you can hear his... Eyelids? Shutters? Whatever, you can hear them click when he blinks.
Also about the "guns kill" message, the idea of the Iron Giant was "What if a gun, didn't want to be a gun?"
This movie will always absolutely destroy me. I’m transgender and growing up getting to have this masterpiece helped me through a lot, deciding who you are and defying what others expect or place upon you is something very important to me given who I am. Absolutely loved this episode, thank you guys <3
There’s a moment in the TV show Lucifer where a little girl has just lost her father, and she turns to Lucifer (who never lies) and BEGS him to tell her that her daddy is ok. His response is absolutely heartbreaking, “My dear, sweet child…I can’t.” That is the only moment in all cinema that has hit me as hard as the end of Iron Giant. Ironically, Lucifer is also all about being who you choose to be - no matter if all of history paints you as the villain or even if you’ve done bad things. It doesn’t make you evil. Just because you were created as a weapon, you don’t have to BE one. Thank you for doing this movie. I’m gonna vote for All Dogs Go To Heaven as something else you guys should cover.
*Spoilers* If I remember right, it was Trixie, and she knows Lucifer doesn't tell lies and says as such, and him just not being able to, I really love that show so so much
Oh yeah dude thank you for the good cry fellas
This movie was my robot cry-fest before Terminator 2: Judgement Day came to me. 😭
Another great episode to brighten my day.
I used to ramble off Hogarth's caffeinated little homework sermon at my buddies in school whenever they called me "hyper". 🤭 Glad we finally get to see Alan and Jono watch the best animated Superman movie. 🦸♀️
I'm just going to add a Damn you, Alan! I'm like you and cry a lot, too. I was all prepared to suck it up for this one, but I'm also a sympathetic crier. So instead of just tearing up, I lost it when you started crying I love this movie and am so glad you did this. May I suggest you check out Simon Birch? To me, it has so much to say about faith (not necessarily faith in God or religion) and the family you make, with a wonderful cast that includes Oliver Platt and Ashley Judd. But it is a real tear jerker with some content that can be tough to handle.
Isn't Titan AE a really similar animation style?
The theme of this episode reminds me of one of my favorite fictional characters; Drizzt Do'urdan, written by R.A. Salvatore. He is born into an evil and cruel culture that is ruled by an evil goddess of chaos. Though he follows along and tries to fit into the role his family house has set for him, his true nature rebels against everything he was taught. He eventually escapes the city of his birth and ventures to the surface world to embrace his goodly nature and to rebel against his Drow heritage.
As a child I always expected a second movie and thinking about it now… I STILL DO
Oh this is one of my favorite movies, thank you so much! (And it's definitely the best movie set in Maine, where I'm from) 💜
Yessss!! It’s ok Alan, this film’s definitely had all of us tearing up at some point. Absolutely an underrated classic that I watched so often as a kid.
There is such a parallel between brad bird and ted hughes. They both used the Iron Giant/Iron Man to help them work through the loss of someone they loved.
thank you so much for doing Iron Giant! I definitely needed a good cry on my lunch break today
Okay I've never seen this movie 🎬 but holy shirt 😢
Go watch now!!!
Omg yess!!!! This movie I have requested so many times, thank you!!
beautiful and i love the ending we are who we choose to be
Even thinking about this movie makes me tear up 😭
Could you do something with "KatWatchesHorror" from YT? Maybe the Babadook?
This was my favorite movie as a kid!!
There's my boy! Edit: wow, that explosion at 26:26 has a very Titan A.E. look to it. Another favorite
Yup. Gonna cry. Again.
