[Update] Future seamless projects and state of modding
Hi everyone
I apologise for not making as many posts on Patreon. Between wanting to give my arm some rest to get better from the tendonitis and also doing some work on getting some major updates to DS2 seamless, I've been a little bit preoccupied.
I wanted to make a quick post regarding some confusion with some other projects that have come up around recently.
I am making this post because people are joining the Discord and asking directly or directly reporting bugs to me for projects that were not made by me or any other human for that matter.
"Imposter" projects
So far, I have / am working on the following projects:
Dark Souls: Remastered
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Dark Souls III
Elden Ring
Elden Ring: Nightreign
Armoured Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (In development)
I am not associated with or working on any other projects aside from the ones listed above.
A great many of these imposter projects are made using AI decompilations, usually from other platforms such as consoles and are entirely vibe-coded.
I have certain views on the use of AI for generating game mods, however, they are my own personal views and I do not hold disdain towards people who do generate them. But for me, what I enjoy most is reverse engineering and figuring out how a game works myself. I have never and will never use AI to aid with this, as it would pretty much suck all of the joy out of modding.
Caution
While I would never use any of these vibe coded projects myself, if people do want to try them out, I would caution people to exercise extreme caution as it is very easy for people to slip malware into these projects and capitalize off of the hype that they promise. Especially because it's so easy to do.
If it is not uploaded by me, and I have never mentioned it on Patreon, then I have not worked on the project.
It is just unfortunate that people who are making these imposter projects can't think of another name other than "Seamless Co op".
Final note
That's all I have to say for this post, and I'm just going to make it so I can give people a quick reference in the future if people ask more questions. I'm sorry if it seems like a little bit of a rant, but it's a little bit frustrating for me and I had to say something.
I have some pretty exciting updates planned for both Elden Ring Seamless Co op and Dark Souls 2 Seamless Co op on the horizon, as well as fixing up some of my older, more neglected projects. ^^
As always - thank you for your patience and a huge thank you to all of my supporters <3
Take care,
Yui
Comments (24)
The Bloodborne "Seamless Co-op" mod is trash and it's upsetting that they choose to ride Yui's coattails
Really excited for AC6 Coop to get some much-needed love, but I know you already have a lot on your plate and it's not a super high priority. I will continue to wait patiently. <3
Good morning, I had a little problem yesterday with my friend in Elden Ring. We were invaded; an invader killed me, and right after that, he killed my friend. Then I stayed as a spectator, watching him respawn. After that, he was killed again, and we both remained as spectators of each other while we were dead for 10 minutes until the invader got tired of searching and left.
I look forward to seeing how you touch up some of your older projects! I've been patiently awaiting the AC6 update that patches the issues with CEL 240's stage breaking the coop due to its variants and being the nexus for the game's story splitting during Route 3. Been wanting to do a full coop run with friends for ages.
can't wait for ds3 ❤️
i love you Yui
Seeing this: "Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (In development)", getting goosebumps
From my own experience as reverse engineering some nightreign or some dark souls 2 recently, there is a real turn since AI is used in this domain as well, and honestly, i agree too on that hate towards those imposters vibe reverse engineers, but you have to consider that ANYONE can try out something with Claude or any AI, being viral by fusing 2 games or so. But i already knew since last may/juny that AI is really powerfull and so efficient if you already know how and what to do. As a dev, it helps you a lot, doesn’t let you behind all his (ai) work and reflexions, but as a random, you won’t be able to explain how your mod works nor your code… Don’t blame AI use, blame the human behind, AI is just a tool as many others, powerfull one yes, scary one yes, but remember the person using it.
one question Why was Seamless Co-op on Nexus suspended? I can't wait for it to open as soon as possible.
I don't understand, none of my mods are suspended.
I can't wait to see DS3 be expanded upon, I've been dying to get around to it with friends after we finish up our DS2 run.
Thank you for still working hard on your mods! Ive seen a lot of mod creators talk about possibly giving up bc of the AI crap. I'm sure it's very demoralizing for creators bc I feel demoralized just looking at that garbage flooding the modding community
Yui, as a huge fan of your work, I've been developing the "Prepare to Co-op Edition" for the original Dark Souls. I'm doing this for a few reasons, one of them being that you've stated in the past that you have no intention of developing a similar mod for PTDE as you did for Remastered. I hope that the naming difference won't fool people into thinking it's one of your mods. You're wholly unique with the mods you've created for these games through solely your own skill. It's commendable and unsurprising that it invoked copycats who loved your mods. Like how fans of FromSoft spawned Soulslikes, you've inspired your own genre, "Seamlesslikes". Even Soulslike developers are putting Seamless inspired mechanics into their games. But you're right that the developers of Soulslikes don't go around literally calling their games Souls. By the way, I can understand how the state of AI and modding is frustrating for you, because the barrier of entry into the space has been reduced a lot, leading to projects from people who aren't dedicated. They churn something out quickly using AI that lacks attention to detail and care. On top of that they use the Seamless name. Their motivations also differ from yours, as you love reverse engineering, and they might not know the first thing about it. As the saying goes, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" - but to you it might not be imitation or feel like flattery, because they're not (myself included) spending the hours reverse engineering like you have. Thank you for creating the Seamless mods, they have honestly been life changing for me, and I hope you can find an amicable away to co-exist with the Seamlesslikes out there.
Ah what a shame, "Seamless Coop" I've always seen as synonymous with "Quality and Tested" mods since they've come from Yui. Would something like "Yui's Seamless Coop" be appropriate? Though I think it's annoying you would need to bend your naming schema to appease these slop projects. Also, while malware is a real concern from them, I'd also worry about the lack of quality. Imagine playing like 80% of one of these projects with a friend only to find out the project has a game breaking bug that deletes your save or something like that. Now you're just out of that experience because those devs don't care about fixing issues or testing them thoroughly. Thanks for everything you do Yui!
H8 AI
Thank you so much for your hard work, Yui! 🙌🏻💜
Speaking of Seamless projects that aren't yours... but maybe could be in the future... Now that Bloodborne is stable on emulation, have you considered doing Seamless co-op for it? It's my favorite Soulsborne game and I've wanted to share it with friends for quite some time. As always, I so greatly appreciate the work you do, how you communicate, and I wish you well on your studies and your health!
Awesome! Glad to hear from you :) Hope everything is well, truly. Sorry to hear about your tendinitis as well
Sucks that the discord's been invaded, but to be fair seamless co-op is the perfect name for what these mods do for these games. They transform the multiplayer aspect of these games into a seamless co-op experience. I've played through elden ring, ds1 and currently ds2 with my friends using your mods. Will continue supporting you and the work you've been doing for this community 🫡
thank you for your hard work! please don’t push yourself too hard. remember that your mods are quite literally sparking a resurgence amongst all the souls games that have been slowly getting neglected or overlooked for years… so don’t overwhelm yourself! however, it would be nice to see some of the more of the large issues in each coop mod be addressed. it feels like each mod has its own quirk that happens infrequently, but still often enough to be quite jarring. but please take your time working through all these issues! thank you for your work
That's pretty much the plan. I'm working through my back catalogue and trying to right some of the wrongs that I've done in the previous Seamless Coop projects. The beauty is that while developing these seamless projects, it's also a learning experience. So, the more mods I make, the better I get at making them essentially. And then I go back to old projects and update them and fix bugs and stuff like that.
I appreciate this post immensely Yui. Thank you for it! Looking forward to future updates to Dark Souls 2 SC :D
Would love to see a Demon Souls Seamless Co-Op with the growth of both RPCS3 and soon to be compiled PC ports of the PS5 remaster. Unfortunately this is one of the “Imposter” mods out there, and quite frankly — it sucks.
thats not a rant and sad that it has to be said.