775 - The Wrestler feat. David J. Roth (10/23/23)
David J. Roth joins us this week as we continue discussing the relatively limp and unconvincing propaganda emerging around the Israel-Gaza war. Then, David gives us his review of “Moneyball” Michael Lewis’ new book on Sam Bankman-Fried, and we take a look at a new Washington Post piece chronicling Jim Jordan’s career arc from college wrestling champion to almost-Speaker of the House.
David’s review of Going Infiniteis here: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/how-michael-lewis-got-duped-by-sam-bankman-fried.html
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Hey first time long time.
This is pretty weak shit from felix on the guy who lets his athletes get raped. Dude wtf is wrong with you who gives a fuck about this guy's wrestling career.
Being an Ohioan I have some connections to today's subjects. I have a close connection to one of Boehner's lifelong friends who stated "I have never seen anyone drink as much or swear as much as John Boehner". I guess that guy is an absolute fucking maniac alcoholic behind the scenes. Also I was friends with a lot of wrestlers growing up, and for a small genetic lineage, it is an absolute religion. Those people fucking MEAN it, I have never in my life met anyone who takes anything as seriously as Ohio wrestling people. Their devotion to the tradition is as absolute as any dogma in human history. Naturally, the kids who come out of it are either the absolute salt of the earth, reliable folks, or absolute manic psychopaths, no in-between.
Even in the Liar’s Poker and other old days, Michael Lewis still had a smug sense of superiority over who he views as “common yokels” (small bank owners, California voters, any nation that voted for too many “entitlements”, people who get scammed by smart con men). Often the implied justification was that he understands the harsh truths of neoliberal economics and they don’t.
Y'all need to get Hasan Piker on
Felix ending the podcast like how I end every Zoom meeting.
Much love to Matt and the family
Glad Matt's out of the hospital!
David is hilarious
Happy to hear about Matt
everytime Felix says “guy who was raised like Steve Martin’s character in the jerk” I feel so seen
luv the Christman
George Bush and Dick Cheney were also lying on behalf of Israel…
Felix does a pretty good job describing the wrestler mentality but as a former wrestler I think there's one thing he missed out: the mentality of wrestling teams as a unit (especially in college) is basically a combination of a cult and an elite military unit. There is a feeling that not only do you have to succeed and push yourself at all times, but if bad things happen (and they always do, since the staff is usually a bunch of psychos living through their wrestlers), it has to be covered up and mocked for the sake of the team. Anything that could discredit the team or cause trouble has to be hidden away and ignored because otherwise you're screwing over the rest of the team
looks like matt has completed operation “make gaza blow up faster”
Dear Patreon, I just LOVE it that when I click "Load more comments" it completely stops playing the podcast and goes back to zero, losing my place. It really keeps me on my toes! You rock. Sincerely, Nobody
Finally, a podcast about wrestling, but from a leftist perspective.
great episdoe, and my favourite type of generic episode; a guest on, not to talk about a specific topic, but to just shoot the shit about all the topics
❤️ for Matt
MATT CANT BE BEAT
gotta give will some cred for that wrestling segue
stay strong matt!!! sending love ❤️❤️❤️
Rest up, Matt! You’ll be back ❤️
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Does anyone have a link to that video of Blinken standing behind Biden and shitting his pants?
Enjoy: https://youtu.be/7RVLSUSIDMY?si=X_iyNiEGZH6mwpXQ
That Jim Jordan article makes him sound like a single chapter Fist of the North Star villain. Also Matt ❤️❤️❤️
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Sadly, Richard Roundtree died today. Can Chapo make a theme song called "Shmeckel" for Ritchie Torres using the "Shaft" sound? Somehow, it seems fitting.
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Best wishes going out to Matt
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Love you Matt ❤️
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Get up you sonuvabitch , because Mickey loves ya ❤️❤️❤️❤️
it is so over AND we are so back ❤️
Go Matt! You got this!
Matt ❤️
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Michael Lewis's new book is titled "Going Infinite."
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Oh my fucking GOD the outro
shit’s rough all over so it genuinely lifted my spirit to hear Matt’s out of the hospital. ❤️ Tactical Jerry Orbach!!! the last time i watched any L&O was when i was visiting my aunt in the hospital, genuinely its insane how you can watch like 3 eps and feel like no time has passed at all.
never felt more post maxi ❤️❤️❤️
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Virgil Texas's silence on Israel has been deafening
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Jordan sounds like he did the same thing as Paterno. Just acted like he didn't know what was happening and was annoyed if someone brought it to his attention.
let’s get a tactical jerry orbach in the chat for matt!
I've been stunned by the mention of US troops. There's zero support for this and yet, they seem to be considering it. The Dems are so completely out of touch. He's coming back, y'all. Strap in.
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Will asked where the counter-protests for Israel are. I saw them in Manhattan. It’s 100 of the most racist chuds you’ve seen in your life yelling at the Muslim women in the pro-Palestine protest to take off their hijabs and chanting “terrorists! terrorists!”. I think they’ve since given up and are now just doing hate crimes in Bay Ridge.
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Absolutely lost it at “Francis Bitcoinhyde”
folks, its post maxi
Love Roth, love the content but the best part was when you said Matt is out of the hospital. ♥️
This that good shit
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Go Matt Go
Happy to hear the Mattman is once again crisp and healthy!
💚💜💚💜hearts for the joker MattyIce
💚💚💚Hooray for Matt!!!
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❤️ hearts in chat for Matt
Roth is one of the 12 or 14 greatest living Americans
The Christman comes!
The Christmas Is Risen
❤️❤️❤️ Papa Matt! ❤️❤️❤️
OUR BOY IS HOME!!!
i hope he’s home. i’m worried he’s just out of the hospital but in long term care or rehab, post stroke 🫣
David Roth always brings it when he comes on. Would be great to have Drew Magary on.
So happy to hear Matt is out of the hospital. Fantastic news. Though I did enjoy imagining him in his sick bed, polishing gems like “tactical Jerrry Orbach,” like bedridden Proust scrawling In Search of Lost Time
I’m so happy Matt’s out of the hospital!
A simple question-- since the gerontocratic Dems are spitting in the face of their voters who don't want open genocide (since the R's fear their base, & the Dems hate their base), will even 1 pay a cost at the ballot box & not be re-selected in 2 or 4 years? Color me skeptical on that one. I think Biden's "Fundamentally nothing will change" continues to apply.
i thought david was chris the first few times he was talking and i was like I hope their guest can chime in soon!
Israel is a greater risk of using nukes than Russia is
Wonderful news about our boy. All love to him and his family.
feelin' teary at work and not just cause i'm choppin onions - YAY MATT ❤️❣️❤️❣️❤️❣️❤️❣️
Even the cable news watchers are starting to sour on Israel, at least based on the example of my father. He's a religious Maddow viewer and was all in on Russiagate, and when I talked to him last week I was expecting some heinous pro-Israel shit, but he was remarkably reasonable about it, said "what do you expect when you lock people in an open air prison and deprive them of basic human rights." He couldn't believe it when I told him about the open war criminals and Kahanists in the current Israeli government, but said it explained a lot. Made me optimistic that the tide might finally be turning.
The dialogue in Billions this season is at once incredible and so pathetically infantile. Chef’s kiss lol.
I'm so happy to hear Matt continues to improve. That's incredible
It’s post maxi
Quite pleased Matt is okay :)
The “boxing glove behind a hidden panel” line got me so good. David is hilarious
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Love you Matt thank you for introducing me to Reddit it’s an incredible site
Just wait til you find out at what time of day the freaking narwhal bacons
Post maxi
DJR is my favorite guest, so happy to see this episode
it rules living in the modern world where you owe nothing to anyone, and nobody owes anything to you, and you're just you doing you trying to get yours, but we still have these wacky ways of assigning collective guilt that are totally insane.
Soooo, re the chin surgery: it's really clear now that he had implants to give him a more prominent chin with a nice cleft. Basically, he walked into the surgeon's office with a picture of Kirk Douglas from Spartacus and said., "Make me look like this." And I guess it worked for a while: his face-lifts and hair plugs were obvious but I never noticed the chinoplasty until recently. Problem is that now that his withered hide has become stretched and saggy, those little silicone chinplants now make him look like he has a pair of saggy balls hanging off his face.
My man getting chinoplasty to look more like Mao
Power to matt!
Does Israel overplay their hand like the republicans did with roe v wade, and face a massive public backlash as a result? Not trying to equivocate the two
felix you were the happy family at the protest in 2002
Let’s fucking go!!
David Roth is always my favourite guest, I usually spend a couple of hours listening to podcasts id never listen to typing ft david j roth and walking away happy.
Yeah I'm simpin'
the wrestle_with_jimmy remix was an elite drop
Not first
Great to hear Matt is out.
Good to hear Matt is on the path
Fan-fucking-tastic news about Matt.
❤️❤️ Matt ❤️❤️
It truly is post maxi
Our boy is out!! ❤️ 💙 💜
Would love to see you guys get radio war nerd on
hell yea matt
hearts for matt!
it’s post maxi
Hearing from the boys and the goat guest Roth was a real balm for me after how hard all the news is. Love to hear that Matt is at home recovering with his family
fantastic Matt news and an S tier friend of the pod, it's a grey wolf christmas
Dear Chapo, I am from a poor family and am worried that after Christmas I will be the only kid on my block without a tactical Jerry Orbach. My question is, what are some of the ways to dress up the Jerry Orbach I have now to make him more tactical?
An interchangeable quip 💬 holster, perhaps?
Van Halen wasn’t the same without him.
🔮 Prayers up!
Man that brief mention of John Boehner made me kinda nostalgic. No-one now at that level of Republican politics is as fun a character as a wine-drunk, chain-smoking German Catholic weeping about Medicaid expansion.
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So thrilled Matt is home w the gals, where he belongs!! Will I want to complain about this final season of Billions SO BAD -pls do a Stories ep w Felix 🙏🏽
“Tactical Jerry Orbach” was the most reassuring tweet I’ve seen in weeks ❤️
Duvi Honig of the Orthodox Jewish Chamber of Commerce was not calling out Starbucks Workers United for their metaphorical drinking of Jewish blood. He was referencing his love for the Spierig brothers and their 2009 vampire film Daybreakers in which vampire Ethan Hawke and vampire Sam Neill drink coffee mixed with blood.
I desperately need a link to that Biden response
Wrestling also gave us Josh Koscheck as an mma fighter. Truly one of the most unbearable professional athletes ever.
Matt being home is the only good piece of news I've heard in weeks
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We love the Rothman don't we folks
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Speedy and full recovery Matt! youre the fucking man!
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Wonderful news!!
Chapo Trap House 3: Return of the King (we love our big dry boi, congrats on coming home! Enjoy time with your new kid!)
Hurrah! We need Matt's righteous bluster back ASAP.
Wonderful news about Matt! Happy to have David Roth on, too.
David Lee Roth, awesome get for a guest.
Demonstration in philly I was at Saturday was the biggest I've seen since George Floyd was murdered
I suspect one of the underexamined aspects of Millennial and Zoomer pro-Palestine radicalism is their formative years on the internet in the 2000's/2010's and how the first time they learned about Israel was through their messageboard's standard-issue Israeli troll poster. Every forum had one and they all derailed every single discussion into an infuriating flame war. The war crimes are bad, of course, but most under-40's probably associate Israel with some asshole arguing with them online.
That photo of blinken morosely peeking around the corner is hilarious
A true 'Blinken you miss it' moment
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Matt's out of the hospital and it's a David Roth episode 🥳
Matt ChristMan
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Hearing Matt's out of the hospital has genuinely made my day.
come back to us healthy and fast Matt <3
Tactical Orbach bf Post maxi gf
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Let's go! Congrats on your recovery Matt. As someone who also was crushed by a 400lb book of civil war poetry, I'd recommend storing it on a lower shelf or maybe placing it on your coffee table. LOVE YA!
Amazing that Matt is home. 🫶🏼
The Orbach seasons of Law and Order are the best
heart for matt, popped off irl when i heard he was out
Matt's recovery depends solely on our cum tributes
Stoked to hear Matt is in the next phase of recovery. We love our Matt!
Happy to hear about Matt. Tactical Orbach o7
A lot of our favorite conservative pundits/Podcasters don't want to cover the gop speaker fight so they just have been doing isreal/hamas 24/7 to avoid it.
if roth is on the pod it's an instant classic
Excited for the Moneyball review
Haha that's how I read it too
HELL YEAH MATT!!!
Sloppy 2nds
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Forst/Nixon
