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October 24, 2023

775 - The Wrestler feat. David J. Roth (10/23/23)

David J. Roth joins us this week as we continue discussing the relatively limp and unconvincing propaganda emerging around the Israel-Gaza war. Then, David gives us his review of “Moneyball” Michael Lewis’ new book on Sam Bankman-Fried, and we take a look at a new Washington Post piece chronicling Jim Jordan’s career arc from college wrestling champion to almost-Speaker of the House.

David’s review of Going Infiniteis here: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/how-michael-lewis-got-duped-by-sam-bankman-fried.html

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matthew leahy · November 3, 2023

Hey first time long time.

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matthew leahy · November 3, 2023

This is pretty weak shit from felix on the guy who lets his athletes get raped. Dude wtf is wrong with you who gives a fuck about this guy's wrestling career.

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MinkL0af · October 30, 2023

Being an Ohioan I have some connections to today's subjects. I have a close connection to one of Boehner's lifelong friends who stated "I have never seen anyone drink as much or swear as much as John Boehner". I guess that guy is an absolute fucking maniac alcoholic behind the scenes. Also I was friends with a lot of wrestlers growing up, and for a small genetic lineage, it is an absolute religion. Those people fucking MEAN it, I have never in my life met anyone who takes anything as seriously as Ohio wrestling people. Their devotion to the tradition is as absolute as any dogma in human history. Naturally, the kids who come out of it are either the absolute salt of the earth, reliable folks, or absolute manic psychopaths, no in-between.

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J.P. McD. · October 27, 2023

Even in the Liar’s Poker and other old days, Michael Lewis still had a smug sense of superiority over who he views as “common yokels” (small bank owners, California voters, any nation that voted for too many “entitlements”, people who get scammed by smart con men). Often the implied justification was that he understands the harsh truths of neoliberal economics and they don’t.

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Cosmo Foti · October 27, 2023

Y'all need to get Hasan Piker on

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The ATL Bike guy · October 26, 2023

Felix ending the podcast like how I end every Zoom meeting.

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Chavvy Alonso · October 26, 2023

Much love to Matt and the family

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Joe · October 26, 2023

Glad Matt's out of the hospital!

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DaddyB · October 26, 2023

David is hilarious

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David Andrews · October 26, 2023

Happy to hear about Matt

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Scot Forsythe · October 26, 2023

everytime Felix says “guy who was raised like Steve Martin’s character in the jerk” I feel so seen

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Daffy · October 26, 2023

luv the Christman

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Darius · October 26, 2023

George Bush and Dick Cheney were also lying on behalf of Israel…

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jkjkjkj · October 25, 2023

Felix does a pretty good job describing the wrestler mentality but as a former wrestler I think there's one thing he missed out: the mentality of wrestling teams as a unit (especially in college) is basically a combination of a cult and an elite military unit. There is a feeling that not only do you have to succeed and push yourself at all times, but if bad things happen (and they always do, since the staff is usually a bunch of psychos living through their wrestlers), it has to be covered up and mocked for the sake of the team. Anything that could discredit the team or cause trouble has to be hidden away and ignored because otherwise you're screwing over the rest of the team

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mersham has some bad news · October 25, 2023

looks like matt has completed operation “make gaza blow up faster”

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The Children of Jack Acid · October 25, 2023

Dear Patreon, I just LOVE it that when I click "Load more comments" it completely stops playing the podcast and goes back to zero, losing my place. It really keeps me on my toes! You rock. Sincerely, Nobody

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T · October 25, 2023

Finally, a podcast about wrestling, but from a leftist perspective.

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Simon · October 25, 2023

great episdoe, and my favourite type of generic episode; a guest on, not to talk about a specific topic, but to just shoot the shit about all the topics

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Nate Ferguson · October 25, 2023

❤️ for Matt

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Simon J. Kelso · October 25, 2023

MATT CANT BE BEAT

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Natalie · October 25, 2023

gotta give will some cred for that wrestling segue

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Reece Coren · October 25, 2023

stay strong matt!!! sending love ❤️❤️❤️

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Jon Erickson · October 25, 2023

Rest up, Matt! You’ll be back ❤️

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Nott Hemon · October 25, 2023

<3

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AbeLinkin · October 25, 2023

Does anyone have a link to that video of Blinken standing behind Biden and shitting his pants?

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Trout Mask Original · October 25, 2023

Enjoy: https://youtu.be/7RVLSUSIDMY?si=X_iyNiEGZH6mwpXQ

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Bobi Jon-son Kenobi · October 25, 2023

That Jim Jordan article makes him sound like a single chapter Fist of the North Star villain. Also Matt ❤️❤️❤️

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AbsenteeUncle · October 25, 2023

EDDDDDDIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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FarmerNed · October 25, 2023

Sadly, Richard Roundtree died today. Can Chapo make a theme song called "Shmeckel" for Ritchie Torres using the "Shaft" sound? Somehow, it seems fitting.

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Abeatupbluechevy · October 25, 2023

❤️ tactical ❤️ jerry ❤️ orbach ❤️

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Noah Mingus · October 24, 2023

Best wishes going out to Matt

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Aric Rosenveldt · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Jacob sullivan · October 24, 2023

Love you Matt ❤️

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A sherpa chat · October 24, 2023

Return of the Matt 👏 Return of the Matt ❤️‍🩹❤️❤️

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Here, Try This · October 24, 2023

Get up you sonuvabitch , because Mickey loves ya ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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William B. Bricks · October 24, 2023

it is so over AND we are so back ❤️

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AL · October 24, 2023

Go Matt! You got this!

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Ben · October 24, 2023

Matt ❤️

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Logan · October 24, 2023

💕 💞 ♥️ 💜 💙 🧡

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NobleStrings · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Bee Holmes · October 24, 2023

💌🖤🧡💛💚💙💜❤️

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Shelby · October 24, 2023

♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

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Emma · October 24, 2023

❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

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Aj · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️

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John Gauger · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️.

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Eric Kloster · October 24, 2023

Michael Lewis's new book is titled "Going Infinite."

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T · October 24, 2023

❤️

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CJ · October 24, 2023

Oh my fucking GOD the outro

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B R · October 24, 2023

shit’s rough all over so it genuinely lifted my spirit to hear Matt’s out of the hospital. ❤️ Tactical Jerry Orbach!!! the last time i watched any L&O was when i was visiting my aunt in the hospital, genuinely its insane how you can watch like 3 eps and feel like no time has passed at all.

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Lukas Kuligowski · October 24, 2023

never felt more post maxi ❤️❤️❤️

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J.W. · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️ Skoden, Matty boy.

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Isaac Jones · October 24, 2023

Virgil Texas's silence on Israel has been deafening

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Isaac Jones · October 24, 2023

❤️

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Randy · October 24, 2023

❤️🫡

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kwrob · October 24, 2023

💕

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James Proulx · October 24, 2023

Jordan sounds like he did the same thing as Paterno. Just acted like he didn't know what was happening and was annoyed if someone brought it to his attention.

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fried egg · October 24, 2023

let’s get a tactical jerry orbach in the chat for matt!

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James Proulx · October 24, 2023

I've been stunned by the mention of US troops. There's zero support for this and yet, they seem to be considering it. The Dems are so completely out of touch. He's coming back, y'all. Strap in.

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Khaqan Ahmad · October 24, 2023

❤️

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blazed uncle · October 24, 2023

Will asked where the counter-protests for Israel are. I saw them in Manhattan. It’s 100 of the most racist chuds you’ve seen in your life yelling at the Muslim women in the pro-Palestine protest to take off their hijabs and chanting “terrorists! terrorists!”. I think they’ve since given up and are now just doing hate crimes in Bay Ridge.

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DRS · October 24, 2023

❤️

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Ashley Naftule · October 24, 2023

Absolutely lost it at “Francis Bitcoinhyde”

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Wisselbanken · October 24, 2023

folks, its post maxi

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Arjun Jayaraman · October 24, 2023

Love Roth, love the content but the best part was when you said Matt is out of the hospital. ♥️

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FriedTwice · October 24, 2023

This that good shit

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Dylan · October 24, 2023

❤️

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Erik Amundsen · October 24, 2023

💚

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PetRockSematary · October 24, 2023

Go Matt Go

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Bertito · October 24, 2023

Happy to hear the Mattman is once again crisp and healthy!

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Xander Norris · October 24, 2023

💚💜💚💜hearts for the joker MattyIce

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Dustin Nelson · October 24, 2023

💚💚💚Hooray for Matt!!!

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Melissa · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️

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NoPrefect · October 24, 2023

🧡

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thomas · October 24, 2023

💚

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Andy Warden · October 24, 2023

🙏❤️matttt

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sensorsweep · October 24, 2023

❤️

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sensorsweep · October 24, 2023

❤️

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sensorsweep · October 24, 2023

❤️

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Instantdumbass · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️

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alexandra lowkey an incredibly long name · October 24, 2023

❤️ hearts in chat for Matt

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joe · October 24, 2023

Roth is one of the 12 or 14 greatest living Americans

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Genghis Cohen · October 24, 2023

The Christman comes!

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Jon W · October 24, 2023

The Christmas Is Risen

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Jessica S · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️ Papa Matt! ❤️❤️❤️

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Rachelle Cox · October 24, 2023

OUR BOY IS HOME!!!

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jessie · October 26, 2023

i hope he’s home. i’m worried he’s just out of the hospital but in long term care or rehab, post stroke 🫣

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Ben · October 24, 2023

David Roth always brings it when he comes on. Would be great to have Drew Magary on.

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Justin · October 24, 2023

So happy to hear Matt is out of the hospital. Fantastic news. Though I did enjoy imagining him in his sick bed, polishing gems like “tactical Jerrry Orbach,” like bedridden Proust scrawling In Search of Lost Time

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Taylor Borie · October 24, 2023

I’m so happy Matt’s out of the hospital!

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Mark Schneider · October 24, 2023

A simple question-- since the gerontocratic Dems are spitting in the face of their voters who don't want open genocide (since the R's fear their base, & the Dems hate their base), will even 1 pay a cost at the ballot box & not be re-selected in 2 or 4 years? Color me skeptical on that one. I think Biden's "Fundamentally nothing will change" continues to apply.

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Natalie · October 24, 2023

i thought david was chris the first few times he was talking and i was like I hope their guest can chime in soon!

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William · October 24, 2023

Israel is a greater risk of using nukes than Russia is

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J__ · October 24, 2023

Wonderful news about our boy. All love to him and his family.

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Natalie · October 24, 2023

feelin' teary at work and not just cause i'm choppin onions - YAY MATT ❤️❣️❤️❣️❤️❣️❤️❣️

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George P · October 24, 2023

Even the cable news watchers are starting to sour on Israel, at least based on the example of my father. He's a religious Maddow viewer and was all in on Russiagate, and when I talked to him last week I was expecting some heinous pro-Israel shit, but he was remarkably reasonable about it, said "what do you expect when you lock people in an open air prison and deprive them of basic human rights." He couldn't believe it when I told him about the open war criminals and Kahanists in the current Israeli government, but said it explained a lot. Made me optimistic that the tide might finally be turning.

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Deep into History · October 24, 2023

The dialogue in Billions this season is at once incredible and so pathetically infantile. Chef’s kiss lol.

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Tyler Carles · October 24, 2023

I'm so happy to hear Matt continues to improve. That's incredible

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LH · October 24, 2023

It’s post maxi

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Sheila Mydick · October 24, 2023

Quite pleased Matt is okay :)

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Brian · October 24, 2023

The “boxing glove behind a hidden panel” line got me so good. David is hilarious

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Dark Belden · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️ LFG Matt❤️❤️❤️

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Daniel Dermont · October 24, 2023

Love you Matt thank you for introducing me to Reddit it’s an incredible site

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Pelican Grief · October 25, 2023

Just wait til you find out at what time of day the freaking narwhal bacons

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Yacobum · October 24, 2023

Post maxi

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Cam C · October 24, 2023

DJR is my favorite guest, so happy to see this episode

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Doug Cartel · October 24, 2023

it rules living in the modern world where you owe nothing to anyone, and nobody owes anything to you, and you're just you doing you trying to get yours, but we still have these wacky ways of assigning collective guilt that are totally insane.

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Trout Mask Original · October 24, 2023

Soooo, re the chin surgery: it's really clear now that he had implants to give him a more prominent chin with a nice cleft. Basically, he walked into the surgeon's office with a picture of Kirk Douglas from Spartacus and said., "Make me look like this." And I guess it worked for a while: his face-lifts and hair plugs were obvious but I never noticed the chinoplasty until recently. Problem is that now that his withered hide has become stretched and saggy, those little silicone chinplants now make him look like he has a pair of saggy balls hanging off his face.

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Pelican Grief · October 25, 2023

My man getting chinoplasty to look more like Mao

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Patrick Woods · October 24, 2023

Power to matt!

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William · October 24, 2023

Does Israel overplay their hand like the republicans did with roe v wade, and face a massive public backlash as a result? Not trying to equivocate the two

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jack flowers · October 24, 2023

felix you were the happy family at the protest in 2002

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William · October 24, 2023

Let’s fucking go!!

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Crosley Querin · October 24, 2023

David Roth is always my favourite guest, I usually spend a couple of hours listening to podcasts id never listen to typing ft david j roth and walking away happy.

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Crosley Querin · October 24, 2023

Yeah I'm simpin'

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D.O.D · October 24, 2023

the wrestle_with_jimmy remix was an elite drop

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Christian Johnson · October 24, 2023

Not first

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Adam Hauck · October 24, 2023

Great to hear Matt is out.

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Ashay Guevara · October 24, 2023

Good to hear Matt is on the path

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Matt Miller · October 24, 2023

Fan-fucking-tastic news about Matt.

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Patrick Olekalns · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️ Matt ❤️❤️

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T G BYAM SHAW · October 24, 2023

It truly is post maxi

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Greg · October 24, 2023

Our boy is out!! ❤️ 💙 💜

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Ben · October 24, 2023

Would love to see you guys get radio war nerd on

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ian · October 24, 2023

hell yea matt

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wailing ken jennings · October 24, 2023

hearts for matt!

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Andrew Cross · October 24, 2023

it’s post maxi

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Cody Pate · October 24, 2023

Hearing from the boys and the goat guest Roth was a real balm for me after how hard all the news is. Love to hear that Matt is at home recovering with his family

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Declan Kennedy · October 24, 2023

fantastic Matt news and an S tier friend of the pod, it's a grey wolf christmas

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Max · October 24, 2023

Dear Chapo, I am from a poor family and am worried that after Christmas I will be the only kid on my block without a tactical Jerry Orbach. My question is, what are some of the ways to dress up the Jerry Orbach I have now to make him more tactical?

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Schwartz666 · October 24, 2023

An interchangeable quip 💬 holster, perhaps?

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RG13 · October 24, 2023

Van Halen wasn’t the same without him.

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Kinetics Video · October 24, 2023

🔮 Prayers up!

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Ian H · October 24, 2023

Man that brief mention of John Boehner made me kinda nostalgic. No-one now at that level of Republican politics is as fun a character as a wine-drunk, chain-smoking German Catholic weeping about Medicaid expansion.

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j · October 24, 2023

<3

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Shiv · October 24, 2023

So thrilled Matt is home w the gals, where he belongs!! Will I want to complain about this final season of Billions SO BAD -pls do a Stories ep w Felix 🙏🏽

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George Mitri · October 24, 2023

“Tactical Jerry Orbach” was the most reassuring tweet I’ve seen in weeks ❤️

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Geechee · October 24, 2023

Duvi Honig of the Orthodox Jewish Chamber of Commerce was not calling out Starbucks Workers United for their metaphorical drinking of Jewish blood. He was referencing his love for the Spierig brothers and their 2009 vampire film Daybreakers in which vampire Ethan Hawke and vampire Sam Neill drink coffee mixed with blood.

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G. Gordon Litty · October 24, 2023

I desperately need a link to that Biden response

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Michael · October 24, 2023

Wrestling also gave us Josh Koscheck as an mma fighter. Truly one of the most unbearable professional athletes ever.

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Mike Loudin · October 24, 2023

Matt being home is the only good piece of news I've heard in weeks

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Mike Loudin · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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J. A. · October 24, 2023

We love the Rothman don't we folks

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helvetica.hottie · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Erik Bourre · October 24, 2023

Speedy and full recovery Matt! youre the fucking man!

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TC · October 24, 2023

💜💜💜

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elyes · October 24, 2023

Wonderful news!!

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Franklin Shepard Inc. · October 24, 2023

Chapo Trap House 3: Return of the King (we love our big dry boi, congrats on coming home! Enjoy time with your new kid!)

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BRP · October 24, 2023

Hurrah! We need Matt's righteous bluster back ASAP.

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The Playing Field · October 24, 2023

Wonderful news about Matt! Happy to have David Roth on, too.

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Poppy Chulo · October 24, 2023

David Lee Roth, awesome get for a guest.

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Evan Scott · October 24, 2023

Demonstration in philly I was at Saturday was the biggest I've seen since George Floyd was murdered

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plainwrap · October 24, 2023

I suspect one of the underexamined aspects of Millennial and Zoomer pro-Palestine radicalism is their formative years on the internet in the 2000's/2010's and how the first time they learned about Israel was through their messageboard's standard-issue Israeli troll poster. Every forum had one and they all derailed every single discussion into an infuriating flame war. The war crimes are bad, of course, but most under-40's probably associate Israel with some asshole arguing with them online.

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I am become reply guy · October 24, 2023

That photo of blinken morosely peeking around the corner is hilarious

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Schwartz666 · October 24, 2023

A true 'Blinken you miss it' moment

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steppingstone · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️

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Jeffrey Miller · October 24, 2023

Matt's out of the hospital and it's a David Roth episode 🥳

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Kentucky Shitlib · October 24, 2023

Matt ChristMan

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Malaparte_Animal · October 24, 2023

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Evan Pitkin · October 24, 2023

Hearing Matt's out of the hospital has genuinely made my day.

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Ruby Lee · October 24, 2023

come back to us healthy and fast Matt <3

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Evan · October 24, 2023

Tactical Orbach bf Post maxi gf

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cashedtrapezoid · October 24, 2023

💕❤️💜💜💜

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TenderPodcastLover · October 24, 2023

Let's go! Congrats on your recovery Matt. As someone who also was crushed by a 400lb book of civil war poetry, I'd recommend storing it on a lower shelf or maybe placing it on your coffee table. LOVE YA!

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Richard · October 24, 2023

Amazing that Matt is home. 🫶🏼

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Jeff · October 24, 2023

The Orbach seasons of Law and Order are the best

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Gordon Schmidt · October 24, 2023

heart for matt, popped off irl when i heard he was out

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Schwartz666 · October 24, 2023

Matt's recovery depends solely on our cum tributes

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JD Nonce · October 24, 2023

Stoked to hear Matt is in the next phase of recovery. We love our Matt!

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Liam CZA Noble · October 24, 2023

Happy to hear about Matt. Tactical Orbach o7

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Back Flip Bet · October 24, 2023

A lot of our favorite conservative pundits/Podcasters don't want to cover the gop speaker fight so they just have been doing isreal/hamas 24/7 to avoid it.

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Ricardo Pleasure · October 24, 2023

if roth is on the pod it's an instant classic

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Connor Green · October 24, 2023

Excited for the Moneyball review

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Matt Murray · October 24, 2023

Haha that's how I read it too

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Jessica Rios · October 24, 2023

HELL YEAH MATT!!!

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diet_koch · October 24, 2023

Sloppy 2nds

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Jon · October 24, 2023

Forst

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Schwartz666 · October 24, 2023

Forst/Nixon