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October 17, 2023

773 - Israeli Self Harm Force (10/16/23)

Will & Felix continue last week’s discussion on Gaza & Palestine with further thoughts on the brutality of the unfolding conflict, reactions and narratives pushed through the American media, shifts in public opinion, and the unstable positions of Israel & America.

Here are a few Palestinian aid organizations worth your support:

https://www.pcrf.net/

https://www.anera.org/

https://www.map.org.uk/

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Hardcore Virgin · March 10, 2026

Fairly conclusive proof Blinken is in fact a hoochie coochie man. 🎸

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Patrick Burke · October 24, 2023

Felix is a serious mfer because he’s going righteously hard against evil forces and he’s always stood by it.

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Alex · October 20, 2023

I got a solution: Dissolve the Israeli government and form and actual democracy that incorporates Palestinians. Democracy and equity are the only ways we can end these cycles of violence. The fact our governments can’t decide between inaction and genocide is a damning indictment against the neoliberal imagination. Israelis have been protesting Netanyahu’s corrupt government all year. They should make coalition

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Elliot Matheny · October 21, 2023

agreed regarding the neoliberal imagination, but it’s hard to imagine an integrated Palestinian and Israeli state working in theory or practice at this point. Israeli settler opinion of Palestinians is shockingly dehumanizing, and I can’t imagine the Palestinians being particularly copacetic with their 75+ years long oppressors. As for real politik, Israel holds all the cards - they’re a nuclear armed state with massive military and diplomatic power, led by a straight up fascist government. I don’t see even a hypothetical international coalition as capable of disarming the regime and getting them to agree to some kind of mixed state, let alone honor the borders that Israel has blatantly disregarded since its inception.

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Jessica Rios · October 20, 2023

Matt is so missed. We love Will and Felix too but we need Matt so much right now.

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Evan C. · October 19, 2023

What happened to Lebanon when it received a huge influx of Palestinian refugees? What happened to their historically Christian Levantine majority? Also, why were they in Lebanon to begin with? What happened that caused the Kingdom of Jordan to send them to Lebanon? I’m only just learning about all of this.

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Jason Matthews · October 20, 2023

1) Lebanese demographics have been intentionally nerfed since at least the '50s in order to preserve the post-mandatory sectarian power sharing agreements. None of it should be treated as a known quantity.

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Cascadia Breadloaf · October 19, 2023

Chapo boys are millionaires just donate all the money from the podcast for the next like 2 months to Palestinian relief none of you need the money

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Poppy Chulo · October 19, 2023

How do you know what they donate? And why wouldn't they spread awareness about charities you can donate to?

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Deep into History · October 19, 2023

Thanks for this moment of clarity, so much disinfo on social media. Wishing Matt a full and speedy recovery.

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Sam · October 19, 2023

Beautiful work boys. Only thing I would push back on is the social media advice. I think responding with “drop a pin pussy” to people of consequence spreading murder propaganda online is perfectly appropriate, especially if you really mean it.

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VE · October 19, 2023

Guest idea: Darren Beattie.

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Poppy Chulo · October 19, 2023

Playing football and having gay sex in West Canaan Texas may have been the opportunity of your lifetime, but I don't want your life!

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Jaime Christley · October 18, 2023

I gather there are a few on here who also listen to Ghost Stories for the End of the World AND are sending best wishes to Matt Christman and his family. So I want to recommend an absolutely stellar GS episode with Christman as guest, it's # 26, "The American Years of Lead?" An expansive discussion that manages to weave together the souring of American counterculture circa 1968 and onward, a look at dissent and revolt among US soldiers during Vietnam as a kind of collective action that produced tangible revolutionary outcomes, and arguably the best framework for thinking about doomscrolling and getting Mad Online that I've heard from anyone. (And baby, I've been Very Mad Online for more than 30 years, so I've heard a lot of that kind of thing.) Ever grateful for Christman's analytical - but never aloof - knack for framing bigger pictures, not to mention the dulcet, Northern England tones of Ghost Stories's host, simply "Matt".

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Matthew Krueger · October 20, 2023

Thanks for the podcast rec. That is a great ep - Christman, clear and articulate as always - but between that, this one, and this week's War Nerd (w Antony Lowenstein): what's happening in Gaza almost feels like the neolibs see this as a chance to normalize killing at a heretofore unprecedented scale. I wish I was more confident they wouldn't get away with it...

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The Children of Jack Acid · October 18, 2023

Not only are the majority of Palestinians too young to have voted for Hamas in 2006, but even at that election, only 44.45% of the voters picked Hamas! Hamas won a plurality, not a majority. It's just that due to the apportionment of seats, that plurality was a majority of the actual parliamentary seats. Otherwise it's likely the Fatah could have put together a coalition of other PLO-member political parties to get a non-Hamas majority. Actually it's very similar to the George W. or Trump situation, where they won the majority of Electoral College votes but not the popular vote. Condemning Gaza for voting in Hamas would be like condemning all Americans for voting for Trump... the one difference being that Trump in 2016 got 46.1% of the popular vote, significantly closer to getting half the votes than was Hamas in 2006.

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Andrew Fitzgerald · October 18, 2023

What is the source for the State Dept saying they won't release the cause of deaths for any Americans killed in Gaza? I don't doubt the veracity, but I'd like to see and share the source

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The Children of Jack Acid · October 18, 2023

Can you guys explain the whole "If Hamas was ISIS, the Israelis would be sending them medics" joke to me? Y'all skirted right past that one like it was a quip in an MST3K episode!

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Gage · October 18, 2023

Isis is funded by the CIA, often coordinates with Israeli intelligence, and receives combat extant aid.

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m · October 18, 2023

Curious if others else here (esp jews) are having the truly insane exp rn of hearing their direct family openly justifying and encouraging genocide when talking over the phone or over the dinner table

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The Children of Jack Acid · October 18, 2023

It's not quite as bad... but I do remember my grandma telling me that the Rodney King officers were "just following normal procedures. He shouldn't have kept getting up!" As a whitey, I have heard all kinds of terrible stuff from my closest relatives, so much so that when my cousin posted an Israeli flag on her Facebook page, I just assume that she would advocate at least LIGHT genocide against the people of Gaza if I asked her why she did it. So I won't even get into it with her because it'll just be a whole thing... and she's a liberal! You can imagine what my conservative relatives think.

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Darbley · October 18, 2023

Matt, still in our thoughts. Hope you're on the mend. ❤️✌️

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owen · October 18, 2023

How does a concerned American not feel like a powerless ball of supressed rage during this time? This shit is outrageous, yes, but mostly depressing beyond belief.

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J P 3 · October 18, 2023

For the time being we are almost entirely insulated from the conflict. So in that regard, things are depressing for sure, but the situation has no real comparability to what life is like in the West Bank and Gaza. We can still go out and enjoy good weather, spend time and talk to family, for most of us food, water and shelter are not immediate concerns. The situation isn't comparable either to what is happening in regions around Israel. It's hard not to think the Biden administration's ineptitude might trigger a much larger conflict that eventually does come home, but rather than being entirely consumed by suppressed rage, I would say be thankful for the things that people currently have. Don't take people or time for granted in the here and now. If people feel the need to take some action, donate to good causes, write members of Congress, protest, talk to friends, organize, etc.

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Gordon Schmidt · October 18, 2023

Amazing that this was recorded before the hospital atrocity today. The media environment actually managed to get worse. Will God forgive us?

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Gengeros · October 18, 2023

My god forgive us, for our children will not.

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Cody Pate · October 18, 2023

Its a hard time for everyone right now. Stay strong boys

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null · October 18, 2023

This was a hard one to listen to. Thank you.

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Aaron Bennett · October 18, 2023

Hang in there, Matt!!! All love to Chapo. Wish I was one of your haters so I could give you the sustenance of my hatred that I know you so crave, but no...sorry guys...huge fan and long time patreon here so for whatever my pathetic love is worth XD.

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J P 3 · October 18, 2023

I'd wager that what has forced a rhetorical recalibration by the U.S. and the EU is almost certainly what they are hearing from Muslim-majority countries, especially ones with a close relationship with the U.S. and the EU. Popular opposition within the U.S. and the EU may eventually have some impact on the direction of foreign policy and foreign aid to Israel, but the short-term influence is likely happening at the level of states. The big issue in terms of the propagandistic coverage in the U.S. is that it means that the U.S. public is completely unprepared for anything but the best case scenario. e.g. a peaceful resolution to the conflict that doesn't result in any further refugee flows or loss of life (something that the Biden administration appears to have absolutely no interest or capacity to achieve).

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Michael · October 18, 2023

We love you, Will and Felix!

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Jimmy McMillan · October 18, 2023

I denounce Hezbollah. Let's make them do an internal investigation into their attacks on Israel. Then if they're able to clear themselves of all wrongdoing, we give them a couple Trillion in military aid

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K · October 17, 2023

I don't know if it necessarily helps Palestinians but I think there's no way the IDF could "win" an actual ground invasion. Sending armored columns into all those drones and ATGMS? They've already lost a couple on the border skirmishes with Hezbollah. I'm not sure they'd even have artillery superiority with all those Hamas rockets.

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Christina · October 17, 2023

Continuing to pray for Matt, Amber and baby girl. thanks for the links to donate and thanks for the reminder that hope is better than despair 🤍🇵🇸

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Alexander Johnson · October 17, 2023

If anyone has to 'debate' skeptical or ornery relatives (as I have) about American/Israeli hostages held by Hamas, be sure to educate them about Rachel Corrie. She put words into action by protesting the destruction of Palestinian homes in Gaza and paid for it with her life. The IDF intentionally murdered her for her activism and the Israeli courts refused to hear the cases brought by her parents. She's a real hero and I wish I was tough enough to emulate her.

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A · October 17, 2023

Perhaps another Chapo Dark Souls Stream to benefit Palestinians is in order?

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Dang · October 17, 2023

Wasn't the decapitated babies story confirmed? Horrible detail but from what I understand it was confirmed and verified

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Christina · October 17, 2023

That anchor lady (I think from cnn) walked back her claim about the decapitations as did the president’s team, clarifying no one actually saw these photos as Biden had claimed. Then the IDF came out and said they weren’t going to confirm it—one thing I saw said “out of respect for the dead.” Like will and Felix said in the ep, it’s likely that some babies were killed given how many people have died so far, but the hyper grotesque claim about “40 decapitated babies” seems to be false given how many have walked back / retracted the statement along with IDF saying they wouldn’t verify it. But definitely google and look into everything I’ve said to form your own conclusion cause I’m by no means an expert and am probably not totally accurate. It’s hard to parse through all the news stories and tweets flooding in every second of every day, but from a common sense angle, it doesn’t seem likely in such an event that fighters with guns would take the time to stop and chop heads off babies just to be cartoonishly evil, whereas the manufacturing consent media machine does seem likely to exaggerate to whip people into a pro war frenzy. And from another common sense angle, if there were photos of decapitated babies my guess is the IDF and western media would’ve shared them, despite how horrifying photos like that would be.

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Christian Sarkis Graham · October 17, 2023

It’s good to hear your necessary and sobering reflection here, on an issue so much of the world has been distorting. So thank you for that. But Jesus, WHY have you joined the rest of the world in their radio silence to effectively the same thing inflicted on the Armenians of Artsakh, just WEEKS before this? So much of what you are decrying of Israel inflicting on Gaza has been *flaunted* by Azerbaijan on Artsakh. 120,000 civilians blockaded and starved for 9 months. Then bombed and forced into exile from their homeland of 3000 years in days, when the world barely even watched. No attacks triggered this, just civilians living in peace. Aliyev is now dancing on the Artsakh flag and expressing intention to invade Armenia proper. And we don’t even SANCTION his petro -dictatorship. They want to erase Armenians and create a pan-Turkic state with Erdogan, while you still affectionately refer to your subscribers as “Grey Wolves” Armenia is a peaceful liberal democracy in a sea of religious dictators. They are begging for the West’s help and we are all allowing them to teeter on the edge of destruction, if not oblivion with our apathy. It’s painful to listen to the boldness and bravery required to take the stance in an episode like this, and complete disregard of the same ethnic cleansing just a neighboring region away. A moral failure of US foreign policy is expected at this point. The same moral failure of Chapo is so much more disappointing.

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Major bit me · October 17, 2023

Well the artsakh government had ethnically cleansed Azeris in the borderlands around Nagorno-Karabakh during the 90s. You go on google maps for yourself and see abandoned village after village after town of collapsed roofs and overgrown towns that had been destroyed. What is now happening to the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh is sick and depraved but Armenia sure is hell not a “liberal democratic country” because they did the EXACT same thing in the 90s. These countries are essentially two gangs of oligarchs fighting post-Soviet border wars and making their own people pay for it, substantively different than the Palestinian situation.

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Danny · October 17, 2023

just gonna offer this up bc no Matt but perhaps one of the lessons of the thirty years war and Spain is that a great power in terminal decline can still be more powerful than all the rising powers, and that even if it can no longer maintain its grip on the world, it can still lay waste to it

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Jake Zydek · October 17, 2023

Luv Mat

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Paul F. Holzfäller · October 17, 2023

Are settlers getting dropped by IDF friendly fire? That’s insane. We’re talking astronomical levels of FAFO.

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Eli · October 17, 2023

Thank you for reminding me that the world is not my Facebook timeline and my close family who support these crimes.

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Daniel Hepburn · October 17, 2023

It is possible to be critical of Israel without repeating Hamas propaganda. As per usual, as horrific as this whole situation is, Chapo' insane levels of catastrophization and demonization grossly distorts things.

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Chris · October 17, 2023

Youa bitch

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Brian · October 17, 2023

Alright. I’ll ask it: Does this just lead to a Trump win all the more?

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Thomas Stevens · October 17, 2023

Unless it starts WW3 (which could happen.) this event will be completely forgotten by Americans before election time.

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Dante · October 17, 2023

Have to say all the Chinese post are really sweet,

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@maltOmalk · October 17, 2023

if you guys actually want to learn something, listen to bungacast https://spotify.link/4rmKq8LJYDb

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Adam Cain · October 17, 2023

seriously, listen to that instead if anything. I stopped listening to this ep 15 min in. not enlightening and demonstrated a kind of glee for Palestinian suffering if only bc it provides the opportunity to be righteously indignant about Israel. greatly distorts the culpability of parties involved, grossly reduces the board to a "either with hamas or for Palestinian extermination" arrangement. I've never commented on a patreon post except maybe one time to call the tabletop episode gay or something back in 2018, but here we are.

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Jackson · October 17, 2023

That episode image is so sobering man

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Miguel Luis Álvarez · October 17, 2023

Spain mentioned for something good we did! yay!

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Ruby Lee · October 17, 2023

I was in the Army when the Iraq invasion started. I remember the overall feeling of disquiet, confusion, and uncertainly as to the legitimacy what we were seeing unfold. I remember the moment I realized exactly what we were heading towards when late one night, a friend in my unit drunkenly said, "this confirms that we really are mercenaries, not soldiers." He was right. There was no justification for it and we are all complicit in a massive war crime but if we refused to go do it they put us in prison. :(

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Davis G · October 17, 2023

Bob Menendez needs to call in a favor to his Egyptian benefactors and get them to be more helpful evacuating civilians.

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m@tt · October 17, 2023

He could just call up his daughter.

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James Browning · October 17, 2023

BLUES HAMMER! Nice Ghost World reference Will!

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Thomas Stevens · October 17, 2023

Just wanted to say for some perspective on the American view of this war, even the Pod Save guys are shocked at what Israel is doing right now. It was crazy to hear that from them but if they have that opinion then it is a lot more acceptable than it would have been 20 years ago.

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Oliver Elliott · October 18, 2023

My go to for this kind of insight into left-libs is the Lawyers Guns and Money blog. They (esp in comments) have turned hard against Israel.

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Brooks Finby · October 17, 2023

needed this today, thank you

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Logan · October 17, 2023

I appreciate this episode. It made me feel, if not hopeful, at least a little less hopeless.

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triplevalaska · October 17, 2023

I usually agree with them, but they sound libtared, it's not fair argument concerning Israel/ Palestinian issue. Not saying their wrong, but all this it's never been more bleak in our live time is allittle much, shit happens all the time

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T · October 17, 2023

My advice to everyone here: Don't let Israel/Palestine ruin your relationships with ordinary people who have no influence. Most ordinary people who support Israel have been tricked by an expensive and successful propaganda campaign. They've been tricked because they're stupider than you (at least in this way), and not because they're evil. Based on the lies they're spoonfed from every politician, media figure, and social media bot they encounter, they really do think that they're on the side that's preventing another Holocaust. Don't break off relationships with these people. They'll maybe break off relationships with you, but reach out to them again once this has died down in the news. They'll probably have calmed down, forgotten about it, or switched sides. They'll probably feel embarrassed about how they treated you and will think you hate them for it, so you need to be the one to reach out. As Matt says, our only hope is human relationships and faith in each other. Don't fall for the "cut out toxic people in your life" meme. Neoliberalism, Mark Zuckerberg, etc. want to turn you into an atomized Pringle, so resist the urge to cut people out, and make an effort to repair relationships that were broken through no fault of your own. Save your anger for politicians, journalist, and the people who bought them. They do have influence, they do know better, and they are purposely supporting genocide.

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Schwartz666 · October 17, 2023

Cheers! Very well said, sir.

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Kirstwb · October 17, 2023

Love you guys! Praying for the christmans♥️

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Emily Richardson · October 17, 2023

Will captured my feelings about not being able to hear Matt’s point of view during all of this perfectly: matt’s perspective on things always puts into words the nuanced feelings and thoughts in my head and it fucking sucks he’s not here during this especially crazy time. But don’t feel obligated or feel bad about not being able to share more about Matt’s medical status or recovery with us. Like you said, no news is good news. That’s more than enough. Can’t wait to hear him on here again someday.

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Mark Schneider · October 17, 2023

Richard Medhurst showed a clip of phalanxes of German cops violently attacking & beating pro-Palestine demonstrators and France is doing the same thing . . . the Reich (& the Vichy regime) never really died, it's still there, but now Jews are considered "White" again, evidently-- oops, apart from the ones who are demonstrating on Palestine's behalf, those are untermenschen like the "Asiatic" Russians!!

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Jaime Christley · October 17, 2023

not to say there's not racism everywhere, but there's something uniquely, freakishly European going on with the clean handoff of ethnostate mania from Nazi Germany to the Israeli occupation. remember also that Israel hands out citizenship to Aryan goyim like they're tossing out Mardis Gras beads, while when the first Ethiopian Jews came calling, Israel was like "*sucks teeth* yeah I dunno fam" and fucking sterilized the women.

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H k · October 17, 2023

Hasans bit on the h3 podcast was super powerful too, there’s a reason why he gets the support he does.

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plainwrap · October 17, 2023

I'm reminded of David Roth's piece about 'Starship Troopers' and how fascism ultimately makes countries weak and incapable. The only reason Hamas succeeded in their attack from Gaza was because the IDF was concentrated in the West Bank pulling security for their racist hillbilly settlers. It's like Rwanda, Israel was too busy doing the ethnic cleansing to even fight the armed enemy. And now they're begging the U.S. for boots on the ground.

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Tyler Mastalerz · October 17, 2023

Can we talk about the courage from Gustavo Petro and the Colombian government? Real leadership

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David S. · October 17, 2023

Great ep despite Matt's absence. Maybe try and get Finkelstein on the show soon?

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Mark Schneider · October 17, 2023

Norm is booked pretty solid on Katie Halper & many other sites!! Still, might be good to hear him here too if he has time.

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E. GONZO · October 17, 2023

Does anyone know what that last bit will was talking about is in Chicago?

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David S. · October 17, 2023

https://apnews.com/article/muslim-boy-killed-chicago-landlord-will-county-5135dea218326d6e639a996564d9369e

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K U · October 17, 2023

I say this with no malice and full love for you guys, but yes, Matt's absence is so deeply felt in cases like this. He just has a way of understanding and articulating empire and its results that felt true and funny and trenchant. I wish for his good health every day. And more importantly, I hope for the safety of Palestinian citizens who are facing a complete slaughter.

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Oliver Elliott · October 17, 2023

Shameless hypocrisy is, and always has been, America’s superpower.

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Ken Lavey · October 17, 2023

Big ups to Hasan and his audience, over $750,000 raised for Palestinians

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Justin · October 17, 2023

every time I see that big, sexy turk I think: "his leftism is just for clout. he's too hot to be one of us" and then he goes ahead and does something 100x more useful than anything ive ever done

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Natalie · October 17, 2023

great episode guys, i appreciated all of your comments. i totally forgot about the calorie restrictions thing, and i never thought about the point that a near majority of the people in Palestine weren't even old enough to vote in the last election .

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Cesar C · October 17, 2023

Don’t ever assume I’m white again pal

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Jaime Christley · October 17, 2023

Two things keeping me from completely going off the rails this past week or so: 1) (largely thanks to Ghost Stories) trying to look out for what larger forces are going to take advantage of the present chaos and move into potential vacuums (of power, real estate, revenue streams etc). Things that may not be clear for years, even decades, if ever, but it's something to keep somewhat steady on. 2) just latching on right away to the ridiculous notion that the very intelligence apparatus that failed - or, y'know, "didn't fail" - on October 7 expects us to believe breathless reporting of baby heads on spikes? it ain't much but it's what I got....

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C. Andrew · October 17, 2023

All I hope for Matt (and anyone, really) is that he's riding his beam and not letting this absolute nightmare get to him. I get you guys are closer to the button and it's your literal job to comment on it, but the good news is I've marched with thousands of others who already are on the same page, we don't need entertainment or takes for this, the situation is crystal clear. Israel is commiting genocide and Palestine must be free. It's a strange mixture of despair and hope simultaneously, watching Israel grow desperately violent and watch them trip over themselves. We know the truth, we don't believe the horseshit, and it makes it feel less alienating or alone when you see the doom and gloom. Now, we can't stop the bombs from falling, and that hurts to acknowledge but IMO that's where you all come in and why I enjoy this program so much. Keep on keeping on, Mr. Chapo.

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C. Andrew · October 17, 2023

PS. I am gay. You are gay. We are gay.

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Jessica S · October 17, 2023

Re: babies beheaded - was it World War I where they trotted out the enemy carrying spikes crowned with baby heads? J can’t remember who was the accused…does that ring a bell with anyone? At any rate, this trope’s - that is the inflation of numbers and method in which the youngest are killed - usefulness never fails to dupe generation after generation, which the exception that it is super charged by technological advance.

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Evan Scott · October 17, 2023

Yeah the Germans were accused of doing this as they marched through Belgium in 1914

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MissDizzie · October 17, 2023

The whole "You should support bombing Muslims, they want to kill LGBTQ people" always comes from people who cheer when they hear about a gay club getting shot up. It's proof that the right has no morals, just the need to score political points.

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Tyson · October 17, 2023

Chapo assumed I’m white /:

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Casey Kiesling · October 17, 2023

shut up cracker

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Doug Cartel · October 17, 2023

Fox News hasn't been this happy in 20 years. Vilifying muslims was their bread and butter for so long and watching them return to form like this is so fucking vile

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Andrew Mueller · October 17, 2023

I feel like it's different this time though. In 2001-2003 there was a critical mass of Americans that supported invading anything in the middle east that just isn't there anymore.

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Virginia Manning · October 17, 2023

Thanks Will and Felix for sharing the donation links, particularly the British MAP link. Without hesitation I have donated on your recommendation and shared this with my fellow UK friends and family

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Nathan Explosion · October 17, 2023

hang in there, will.

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Doug Cartel · October 17, 2023

anybody saying that a ceasefire is "disgraceful" should be forced at gunpoint to charge into gaza as the first wave

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BryceSprungstein · October 17, 2023

If there's one thing the 'terminally online' thing can do, its make Yasmin Porat's name as prominent as possible and push for calm pending an investigation. At the very least it might create some time and space for cooler heads to prevail

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William · October 17, 2023

I think the refusal to name Iran is an admission that Israel would definitely try to go to war with Iran at this moment if they could, and it would probably end in nuclear war once it goes south

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William · October 17, 2023

I absolutely cannot stand how Israel is dark Vadering the Palestinians right now. They’re acting like a bunch of voldemorts and no one’s stopping them!!!

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William · October 17, 2023

Israel is doing the thandus snap to palestine and no. one. is. stopping. them.

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Drew McGill · October 17, 2023

Shame on any lib in here giving Chapo shit for shitting on Biden.

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—— · October 17, 2023

Who knows what Happened to Matt

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William · October 17, 2023

Hospital

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Alex · October 17, 2023

Hasan is a real one and I hope you guys have him back on the show again soon!!

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Eon Gattignolo · October 17, 2023

when i started giving $5 a month my thought was "these dudes make me laugh hard at least once a show, I will buy them one bottle of beer or one fried egg sandwich a month. seems fair."

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Eon Gattignolo · October 17, 2023

wait there's more. at some point during some terrible news push I remember thinking that supporting chapo, true anon, and citations needed (the official podacast of the chapo subreddit btw) is the best money I ever spent on *entertainment media* and shit is probably only going to get weirder going forward and I am so glad this podcast isn't on the spotify network or some other such bullshit. to be absolute corny and earnest here. I trust these people's hearts and I trust their work. It's a miracle, a glitch in the system that these people can prioritize health and work over survival in a workplace. i mean look, these mf'ers are operating solidly in the upper middle class income bracket. tradition dictates that they start delegating and learn to golf and get on doctor pills. These guys are writing extra history podcasts and whole extra series on art and shit, which would be extra anyway, but between the jokes and the yucks they are honoring some real important codes. they are not peddling us bullshit. they are platforming people the mainstream news industry is trying desperately to crop. tldr sincere thanks and salute

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Ellen Anderson · October 17, 2023

Thank you for this post. I am disgusted and horrified. Will do what I can to

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Nick Rachielles · October 17, 2023

Will and Felix, if even one of my friends was as dedicated as you both are to matt, id consider myself the luckiest man alive. In solidarity friends

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Methew · October 17, 2023

The one Palestinian kid who was murdered on the global day of jihad, RIP, but wow talk about the most silent possible auditorium for the loudest possible lone cough

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Methew · October 17, 2023

Lone cough that perfectly reinforces the awkward unspoken truth about the spectacle in view

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christoph.s · October 17, 2023

In my hopeful moments I dream about a child in Gaza, now, in 65 years telling their grandchildren about the war and occupation. Just like my grandma did about WWII (she was 10 in 1939) and them listen attentively but the suffering being as unfamiliar to them as it was for me.

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Juniper Kur · October 17, 2023

the middle eastern security apparatus, and by extension all of american politics, rests upon the assumption that palestinians have no agency. turns out they do.

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fredbaroque · October 17, 2023

Think how different the headlines would be, had Milla Jovovich been born in Gaza and not in Kiev.

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Brian Rad · October 17, 2023

Shoutout to HamasAbi

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Methew · October 17, 2023

When u say “wouldn’t their otherwise submission be justification for their ongoing dispossession” Frederick Douglass in a eulogy to John brown I was reading earlier said in the south that the whites came to justify African Americans natural state of enslavement by submission to it and something along the lines of “the fact that the chains fit their wrists confirmed that their wrists were just to wear them”

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Methew · October 17, 2023

Thanks for providing the donation links. I have been glued for every possible moment I have since the 7th, but haven’t even thought to find places to donate yet. I made the donation out in the honor of Captain John Brown

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Gulb · October 17, 2023

Thank you so much. I had a conversation with a friend tonight who just repeated Israeli propaganda and it was such a bleak feeling hearing someone I care about justifying genocide.

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Jackson Ehlert · October 17, 2023

Incredible episode gentleman. Love you guys best wishes to Matt

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Pelican Grief · October 17, 2023

It's deeply funny that Matt manufactured his own covfefe

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Mr Tu Damn Quoque · October 17, 2023

The loss of US cache - Victoria Nuland was humiliated by the West African states when she did her whirlwind visit after the Niger coup. Muktipolarity is coming and the neocon ghouls feel it in their bones

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William · October 17, 2023

Still too good of treatment for that bitch

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jay alan · October 17, 2023

Love you guys ❤️

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R K · October 17, 2023

'if we didn't kill all those palestinian children, how would we know we didn't kill the next hitler?' - megan mcardle, probably

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Mark Schneider · October 17, 2023

It's Meggerz McArgleBargle, if you please!!

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J.P. McD. · October 17, 2023

A tight 53 love it

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Poppy Chulo · October 17, 2023

Why?

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CJ · October 17, 2023

hhyswixw? I thought you’d never ask.

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Brion Baer · October 17, 2023

Really moving episode, love you all 💚

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T · October 17, 2023

What's the best charity? I'm using Canadian money on a credit card, if that matters.

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Waffle Poet · October 17, 2023

I would suggest going through the charity network Hasan Piker worked out. He has a lot experience finding the right charities and clearing all the hurdles banks (or states like Turkey) throw up to make donations next to impossible. Uh, link: https://tiltify.com/@hasanabi/palestinian-medical-assistance

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Derek Nagy · October 17, 2023

I said it before and I'll say it again, the Nazis won WW2. Germany lost, and Nazis won.

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Franklin Shepard Inc. · October 17, 2023

The only time I ever sat through a whole Bill Maher TV show was when they would have George Carlin on. The episode where he said that was like, the one good episode.

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Declan Kennedy · October 17, 2023

it feels wrong to express appreciation for what was an extremely bleak episode from start to finish, but thanks for putting into words the frustration so many of us have been feeling

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Andrew Cross · October 17, 2023

I want my podcasters to be paid more to make shorter episodes with worse audio, and I’m Not Kidding

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Rusty · October 17, 2023

Going to a pro-Palestine demonstration on campus tomorrow, inb4 I get put on that Canary Mission list.

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Dick Wolf · October 17, 2023

I can’t express how much I long for the inevitable “So… anything big happen while I was gone?” bit when Matt gets back.

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Matt James Rich · October 17, 2023

It's post maxi.

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christoph.s · October 17, 2023

In Europe (especially Germany Austria) the public discourse around this is insane. And the distribution in the political spectrum is different, the far right (bc of antisemitism) stay relatively silent or just like the conservative mask their hatred of Muslims and immigrants behind their „concern“ about Jewish safety. And the center and liberal up to the left want to wash away the Nazi past with Palestinian blood.

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Seraph · October 17, 2023

“America can certainly afford two wars” -Janet Yellen

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I am become reply guy · October 17, 2023

That’s all though

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Shiv · October 17, 2023

back in the hhyswixw groove

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Bradley Rosson · October 17, 2023

This is Dresden, Cambodia, Hiroshima & Nagasaki. This is the Trail of Tears. This is another holocaust. Israel is become Nazi.

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Zach H. · October 17, 2023

It’s the abused becoming their abuser. That they can’t see the clear parallels between stateless Jews rounded into ghettos and death camps and the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank is baffling.

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Zach H. · October 17, 2023

Any government dropping white phosphorus on civilians who can’t escape can’t plead self defense

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Greg · October 17, 2023

Great show, very Post Maxi

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Tristan Clark · October 17, 2023

I'll be angry for Matt til he can be angry for us again ❤️

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Justin · October 17, 2023

unfortunately, I think Matt's doctors are stressing the need to be a little less angry in the future

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Siddhartha · October 17, 2023

Grabbing a cup of hot hhyswixw as I listen

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Dick Wolf · October 17, 2023

going to starbucks and asking for a covfefe hhyswixw please. post maxi.

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Zach Pierce · October 17, 2023

Thank you Trump, Sir, and Jared Kushner for signing the Honda Accords that brought peace to the region.

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Erik Bourre · October 17, 2023

hellz yeeah. thanks fellas

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Raoul Duke · October 17, 2023

Rest in power 6yo Wadea Al-Fayoume, murdered by a Zionist landlord… everyone in Chicagoland should come out to the vigil , 8pm Tuesday @the Plainfield Prairie Rec center on Renwick Road

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Free Palestine 🇵🇸🔻 · October 17, 2023

❤️ 🖤 🇵🇸 🤍 💚

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Kinetik Phantom · October 17, 2023

hhyswixw mfers

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Laurel · October 17, 2023

I logged on simply to look at cute pets in the chapo chat for the dopamine, and found a brand new episode! Thanks, fellas.

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Natalie · October 17, 2023

i'll put a pic in there for you

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Evan Pitkin · October 17, 2023

Gimme

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Chris · October 17, 2023

I feel like the govt would have rolled with Palestine and Hamas being the same thing in people's minds, internet made that tough.

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T · October 17, 2023

It's post maxi

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Cole · October 17, 2023

If grossing in hhyswixw