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May 5, 2026

BONUS: Smothered by Riches feat. Peter Coyote

Former character actor Peter Coyote joins Will to talk about his new book Smothered by Riches, a polemic on the collapse of the New Deal consensus and the legacy of the Powell memo. He and Will talk about the history of neoliberalism from the Chicago boys to Bill Clinton, Peter’s decades-long political life including time in an Anarchist theater troupe, and a bit of Zen Buddhism for good measure.


Pick up a copy of Smothered by Riches wherever you can: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/smothered-by-riches-peter-coyote/1147458103

Comments (126)

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mex207 · May 25, 2026

Will let coyote cook on this one! Guy is a legend, I watched “Sphere” the other night and he carries the whole picture until he gets crushed in that door. Cheers!

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Jeremy Francuz · May 17, 2026

Wonderful interview, it could've gone on twice as long as far as I'm concerned, and they're not always my thing.

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Christopher · May 12, 2026

I fucking miss real leftists in our culture.

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Leland Potter · May 11, 2026

This was so so good thanks guys. Bookmarked for sharing and revisiting. Merci buckets

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Ron · May 11, 2026

Survival of the fittest only applies in the animal kingdom. 🙂🫡

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Doug K · May 9, 2026

Damn this guy is 84 years old? What an absolute legend.

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Howard Zyn · May 9, 2026

Alan Moore level interview

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veni · May 8, 2026

"I am human, and reckon nothing human alien to me" is one of the ancient Roman playwrights, Horace or Terence I think, for the many thousands of people who care and can't google. Maybe Marx quoted it or something. idk.

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Joelio · May 8, 2026

This man’s voice talking about neoliberalism makes me feel like I could run through a brick wall

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Derek Winter Schultz · May 8, 2026

Slop?

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OtherRussert · May 8, 2026

Dark Money by Jane Mayer

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EVIL PLANET · May 8, 2026

PLEASE RELEASE THIS TO THE PUBLIC FEED. THIS IS INCREDIBLE!

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Alex Gullen · May 8, 2026

Good analysis of the historical development pre and post Powell memorandum. Stored thoughts in ligaments, why jump into the ‘woo woo’ after all that?

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Darryl Canfield · May 8, 2026

Mmmñz Zzz 2

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Tom Joad · May 8, 2026

Guess you think this is a substitution for mu Thursday night slop. Great interview, BTW.

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Bigriff · May 8, 2026

Is this a really wonderful episode or is it just an episode where there isn’t a Sons of Liberty reference?

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clark · May 8, 2026

amazing interview, thank you Will

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trent · May 8, 2026

This was gorgeous. It made me think of this contradiction-in-terms, which I mean non-judgmentally: “taosplaining”

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Justin · May 7, 2026

"I saw through whiteness real quick" was savage.

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🤷🏼‍♀️ · May 7, 2026

The TVA accident in Kingston is insane and happened this century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly_ash_slurry_spill?wprov=sfti1

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Late Capitalist Filth · May 7, 2026

Great episode. After 10 years Will has developed into an excellent interviewer. You can tell he’s done his homework and he helps guide the guests to interesting places. Always look forward to these interviews.

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David Hofberg · May 7, 2026

Peter Coyote is so fucking cool, goddam

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T33ny · May 7, 2026

Maddow is a neoliberal....

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Christopher Ladd · May 13, 2026

A truly insufferable one

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Nick Robinson · May 7, 2026

Great interview. Now seriously Will, as one who also loved the book sphere as a teen, and randomly watched the movie literly days before this dropped.... I would just LOVE to hear what you thought about that train wreck of a movie lol

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T33ny · May 7, 2026

Hes correct about activist. Peter really putting these bernie bros to shame off the bat

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Angela Custaneo D'Morgienza · May 7, 2026

This episode is fascinating. Hearing the actual how-they-did-it details of organizing and also his insight into the conservative action to destroy all the left's gains was awesome

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Metra Eccentric · May 7, 2026

Excellent interview all around. Loved his thoughts on Buddhism. Or as General Crooks put it: "We all have bloody thoughts."

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Adamhac · May 7, 2026

fantastic. and moving. thank you

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Ben Marshall · May 7, 2026

My wife's cousin! Great interview!

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MRSAful Fate · May 7, 2026

It feels good to hear an older guy who actually tells it like it is and isn't a brain-rotted, reactionary hog.

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Philip Malcolm · May 7, 2026

Very much enjoyed that. Thanks Will

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Richard Cochnar · May 7, 2026

This guy is funny as hell and he rocks.

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Ian H. B. · May 7, 2026

Unironically the most inspiring shit I've heard in a long long time, just to hear this guy who has walked the walk for his whole life

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Jawn Pawl · May 6, 2026

Surreal to hear this voice on the pod. One of the best interviews on Chapo I’ve ever heard.

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Adamhac · May 7, 2026

agreed

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Matthew Martillo · May 6, 2026

Is there a legitimate way to share this with a non subscriber? This is an excellent skeleton key to describe contemporary leftists

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Chapo Trap House · May 6, 2026

this is a public ep it's on the main feed or you can just use this link to share it!

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Amy Irving · May 6, 2026

Explained neoliberalism to me in a way that at 38yrs old I finally can kind of make tangible. This episode is Chapo at its best

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e333 · May 6, 2026

Thank you for this. So much important information, so eloquently said. I have been meditating for two years, mainly by the method laid out by Eknath Easwaran, and it has already changed my life in meaningful ways. This is further inspiration to keep going.

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Terrible Dirigible · May 6, 2026

Phenomenal interview. Thank you for your Chapo

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HuffingGasInTheShed · May 6, 2026

You guys knocked this one into the bay

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Joan Guenther · May 6, 2026

This episode really matters. Share it put it out there. Be like Peter Coyote. Let us all be like Peter Coyote.

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Pia Gaver · May 6, 2026

This is your signal to read the Mumonkan

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Eric H · May 6, 2026

This is a great interview. Peter Coyote is such a badass. Please free this from the Patreon. I would really like to share this with friends.

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Bill Vog · May 6, 2026

This was great, really enjoyed this

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Ol-Dirty-BAStart · May 6, 2026

Honestly after the Dear Prudie episode I thought I might be done with a Chapo subscription, not being a snob I just didn't feel the same nourishment as I used to. Then this drops, and I remember why I'm here, terrific episode with a fascinating legend

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Daniel Fitzgerald · May 6, 2026

DEEP conversation. I wish I could beam these facts directly into other minds

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Doug Cartel · May 6, 2026

"first I want to read you a list of numbers" *proceeds to recite a random list of numbers, somewhere someone drops their phone and begins walking towards a gun store

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Twitch Hunt! · May 6, 2026

Peter Coyote is amazing.

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Blank · May 6, 2026

Learned some amazing new expressions: “Taking it in the pants,” “it’s the crotch of things”

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Jennifer Wiren · May 6, 2026

Just because something's an illusion doesn't mean it can't not be an illusion at the same time.

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Chicken_Man_ · May 6, 2026

The thing that stuck out about PC talkin' about the formation of Think Tanks was that this wealth also funds PBS or has seemingly helped promote public affairs... backassward shit. ❤️PC, great episode.

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John Woodbridge · May 6, 2026

Old school hippie Unc is kinda a woo-woo kook but he's great and also spitting fire and straight facts for a lot of this episode.

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Al De · May 6, 2026

Awesome yapper, gimme more.

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Gareth Hedges · May 6, 2026

Tremendous!

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Mickey Gallz · May 6, 2026

This conversation was much needed. He needs to be a returning guest. Would love to hear more.

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PrinceVocalFry · May 6, 2026

This is Boomer church. Peter is catechizing

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Mojoman · May 6, 2026

Coyote is spot on. Hopefully Chapos will really internalize the critical message he reveals.

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mike · May 6, 2026

Really excellent, inspiring interview.

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Dang · May 6, 2026

Will interviewing Peter is absolutely epic, I'm so proud 😭

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Dank Widow · May 6, 2026

Absolutely amazing interview

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stankhead · May 6, 2026

Peter coyote is an uber Chad, great interview

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lil terracotta · May 6, 2026

First time hearing meditation explained in a way that makes me eager to give it another try.

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Ross Holtry · May 6, 2026

“But first let me read off to you a list of numbers” “Please!”

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Andrew Buchner · May 6, 2026

True Anon's recent People's History of SantaCon episode has a great section on the Diggers, as part of the evolution of the postwar labor/socialist movement in the US ultimately creating the conditions for John Wilson to film Santa Claus getting a handjob in a pharmacy.

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James Moore · May 5, 2026

Left wing boomers are so sick. So much indignation dripping off every word. Bad fuckin ass

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Brandt Donovan Pepin · May 5, 2026

Great ep

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Brent · May 5, 2026

Peter Coyote is a real one.

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etienne · May 5, 2026

so no Movie Mindset this spring?

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John Zirinsky · May 5, 2026

Buddhism and Jerry Garcia Band did someone dose Will lol

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The Brank · May 5, 2026

Buddhism on Chapo. Folks, we really are in the zone

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Alex · May 5, 2026

Its great hearing the voice of Ken Burns going off on leftist condemnations of our society hahaha

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ts_babyjane · May 5, 2026

lol i remember when tva did that. they came to our schools to be like "oopsie! sorry we gave your parents cancer!! our bad, but we wont do it again!"

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Gordon Schmidt · May 5, 2026

INSTANT must-listen after I found out he played General Crook in S1 of Deadwood

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Big James · May 5, 2026

Episodes like this is what I want more of from chapo

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Taylor Borie · May 5, 2026

He was so good in Southern Comfort

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Dry wall Eater · May 5, 2026

Hey I know that voice

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Keith · May 5, 2026

Como pode um estadunidense viver tanto tempo em Paris sem falar francês?

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Liberal Chieftan · May 5, 2026

Got chills

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Doug Greer · May 5, 2026

Coyote is correct that the belief that markets are natural came from Friedrick Von Hayek and Milton Friedman popularized a dumber version of Hayek’s Market religion… for more details on that history and the MPS, read Philip Mirowski… starting with Never Let a Serious Crisis go to Waste… and the works of Quinn Slobodian…

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MATT TRIANO · May 5, 2026

Smothered by Slop

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Josh Ruston · May 5, 2026

Awesome guest and, will, absolutely perfect work on the interview

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Jason · May 5, 2026

Talk about clarifying the mind, man this guy can talk! Never heard of him before, but this was a great interview. Glad you guys did it and posted it.

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Doug Greer · May 5, 2026

There is so much more to the story of the Western world’s Neoliberal turn… The Powell Memo story is all true, but it’s far from the whole story… another story which is even more significant is the take over of academia by Neoliberals… and… especially the dominance of the Neoclassical school of economics over all other schools of economics… in academia, in undergrad textbooks, in economic journalism and among all economic advisors… The dominance of some form of the Neoclassical school is almost hegemonic… Neoliberalism is built on a foundation of Neoclassical belief… Please read John T. Harvey’s book: Contending Economic Perspectives, 2nd addition… His book puts the Neoclassical school into context… and compares more reality-based schools of economics to the pseudo-science of the Neoclassicals… The reality-based schools include: post-Keynesian, Institutionalism, Marxism, and Feminism…

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nick · May 5, 2026

Astoundingly based.

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Matt · May 5, 2026

I love this conversation! So good!

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jackson macpherson · May 5, 2026

I didnt realize the Ken Burns narrator was such a fucking beast. Just banger after banger.

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Yairo Martis · May 5, 2026

AMAZING get!

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Christopher Rieth · May 5, 2026

Interesting interview. He's a good example of the New Left. Created a commune in his youth and later went on to become a Buddhist... It is strange to hear a 60's revolutionary misuse a phrase like 'lumpenproliteriat' though (I think he just meant 'proliteriat') and swap "the revolution" as his life mission for a "path to enlightenment". At least he seems to be having a nice retirement out in the country writing his memoir or whatever.

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Jack · May 5, 2026

That the truly revolutionary path is simultaneously a spiritual and material one is at the core of what Matt talked about in the Cush vlogs

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Sac · May 5, 2026

Ordered!

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Brian Mulligan · May 5, 2026

Great piece but WinStanley's digger section needs addressing. Diggers were so called as they set up communes on enclosed land and planted. The king was probably dead by then and Cromwell was Lord Protector. Leon Rosselsons song World Turned Upside Down covered by Dick Gaughan and Billy Bragg tells the story of their awful fate

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Mattc83 · May 5, 2026

You guys are the best. Great interview, wonderful guy, and that voice I could listen to telling me I had a deadly disease and I’d still feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thank you for continuing to provide a fantastic service. Edit: Also, what a fascinating life story. Really, reallly brilliant stuff

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Tim · May 5, 2026

Whut?!

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Ryan · May 5, 2026

What a rad dude!

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Corey Reynolds · May 5, 2026

I loooovvveee Sphere. The book and the movie. I was thinking about it before Will brought it up.

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Dan Z · May 5, 2026

Is this the Ken Burns narrator?

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Dan Z · May 5, 2026

2 mins in the answer has been revealed

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Shane-A112 · May 5, 2026

bountiful slop! glorious day!

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electradescending · May 5, 2026

wow, Peter Coyote, what a get.

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Carson Ecalono · May 5, 2026

Roosevelt literally sterilized Puerto Ricans during his own tenure, a form of eugenics 😬

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Kitty · May 5, 2026

This was such a cool and hope-inspiring conversation!

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Dunc · May 5, 2026

Wow. Narration GOAT contender, on top of everything else. Ken Burns, Zen Flesh, Zen Bones…

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SK · May 5, 2026

I went to Grinnell College (Peter Coyote’s Alma mater). When I was there in the 1990s Peter came to screen the Roman Polanski movie he did called Bitter Moon. At the Q and A after the movie the students questioned whether it was a good idea to do a movie with a pedophile and a sex criminal. Peter Coyote told us we were being disrespectful to a great director and stomped off the stage. I have a hard time taking anything he says seriously since then.

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kwrob · May 5, 2026

That's disappointing

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True Horror Productions · May 5, 2026

Hell yeah fellas

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tom · May 5, 2026

This one is too good to be patreon only

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kwrob · May 5, 2026

Seconded! Would love to share this with a non-subscriber.

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Jethro Mojave · May 5, 2026

My trough runneth over with a slop most nutritious and tasty

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Jammy Cooks · May 5, 2026

I got to interview Peter Coyote in 2015 for a small town magazine. He was so generous and was amazing. Love that he's finally on the pod.

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Chris · May 5, 2026

Now that Peter Coyote is part of the Chapoverse, the time is ripe for a Ken Burns style Chapo video utilizing the talents of him, Matt, and Jon Bois

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Brian Taulbee · May 5, 2026

This is a hell of an interview, right up there with Will’s interview of Alan Moore.

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Kvvvy · May 5, 2026

Among my favorite narrators

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Skitzaf Raynik · May 5, 2026

Will, ask this guy how he got to be so cool

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Jacobo · May 5, 2026

Great pull. I just watched The West last week and was enthralled/mortified

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Alex · May 5, 2026

Excellent interview.

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Keely Hughes · May 5, 2026

Love hearing Ken burns documentary voice

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Greg Forsyth · May 5, 2026

Chapo about to sound like a Ken Burns documentary

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Jordan · May 5, 2026

You ever notice how Dick Wolf and Peter Coyote are the same names?

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Coleman · May 5, 2026

Damn

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Thom · May 5, 2026

Nice. He was great in De Palma's Femme Fatale

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JDF · May 5, 2026

This is fucking elite DIGGER PETE

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UnderN0verIt · May 5, 2026

Smothered by Rich's WHAT NOW?

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marxinalenina · May 5, 2026

Feet 🤤🤤🤤

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Tyler Shipman · May 5, 2026

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