1007 - A Guy Who Never Dies feat. David J. Roth (2/3/26)
David Roth returns to talk about the newest avalanche of Epstein files and what they tell us about the depravity of our elites and the West as a whole. We run through a gauntlet of incriminating emails with Larry Summers, Peter Mandelson, Peter Attia, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk and more. Then, to lighten the mood, we talk about a profile of Woah Nancy and her poor staffers, plus a tip about Marie Concentrationcamp Perez.
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Comments (235)
Being too busy and not checking in on my podcasts to find a David Roth ep in my backlog. like finding a 20 in my pocket
Epstein is the Joe Rogan of the Elites
Nick Mullen vindicated yet again. When will the left take accountability for sandbagging him at the behest of Adam friedland
Am I the only one who finds the term “staffer” infuriatingly obnoxious
100 lbs of rotting avocados found a la dumpster diving. Lmaooooooo, have not laughed that hard in a while.
coming to dinner at the townhouse but seated next to a translucent nebbishy pedo who won’t stop mumbling about “throwing a kosher hotdog down Annie’s hallway “
And that’s just bill gates oy vey is this over yet?
Methadone chic
So here for the Taibbi attack. The guy sickens me.
I love Will mis-promoting "No parasan"; I never realized there was a Japanese Brigade fighting in the Spanish Civil War.
I think Roth is my favorite guest
💎 DAVE!!!
I’m not sure this makes sense, but someone suggested the = in all the emails was an error from optical character recognition? I’m not sure why emails would be getting scanned. But they do things stupidly a lot so maaaybe (like redacting in adobe acrobat but you could still copy paste it)
Ok it’s actually an artifact from this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable
1:09:45 what a bad lie. my dad has Hemachromatosis and drinks all the time lmao
Thinking of a Forest Gump style movie but following Jeffery Epstein as being connected to all the seminal events and characters of the late 20th and early 21st century.
shit happens 😀
Felix’s references reached a new standard of excellence in this episode. The sports ones were so good
i take back everything negative i’ve ever said about her. paying rent in dumpster avocados is the coolest thing a member of congress has ever done. concentration camp perez is like if hillary paid barnum and bailey to create a manson girl for a euphoria side character
nancy mace is the ace Rothstein of qanon aunts
Thank you for finally teeing off on Taibbi
Eyup Lovely was right about everything
Whats Felix's platform on fighter jets for the masses? An f16 in every driveway?
What is a “Whoa Vicky?”
2010s subliterate internet white girl who got popular for abusing AAVE and is now in the midst of the most shallow tradwife/evangelical pivot of all time
What’s the deal with Matt Taibbi? Last time I checked in on him he cohosted useful idiots. Sounds like he took a dark turn?
That was like three Matts ago
Is it anti-semetic for Epstein to infer that someone might think of him as a Mossad agent?
Great episode. Cathartic and insightful. More David J. Roth on Chapo would be welcome.
Anyone got a good Philip K Dick novel rec if you had to choose one? Never been a huge sci fi head, prefer novels to story collections. Ty
Blade Runner? Total Recall? You probably been exposed to dick already without realising it!
“¡No Parason!” lol
MGP is Gail the Snail. She's a fucking garbage pail kid.
Never forget: statistics was invented by the Eugenecists.
Nick Nightingale to Musk: “the password is actually ‘Don’t let this guy in.’ Trust me, that IS the password. It’s IRONIC!”
It’s really a shame that no movie got made based on Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi’s book The Exile about 1990s Russia.
A production company bought the rights for it, but they it never made it into production.
Before David mentioned her in this episode, I very literally did not realize Kristi Noem and Nancy Mace were different people. Truly the wonder of life prevails!
If Epstein looked like Griffith from Berserk, some of y'all wouldn't even care. I was given $10,000 for this post to move the discourse away from the "goyim cattle" thing btw.
Epstein did a lot of things but he never slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars!!! 😭😭😭 שולם על ידי עם ישראל היפה
Taibbi is such a bitch. Maybe he's just bought or someone has dirt on him. Whatever. Dude is such a coward
I know he’s suing Eoin Higgins for writing a book about how he’s bought.
I enjoyed the Taibbi hate. Guess he won’t be a returning guest anymore. lol
Sir William Gull - CBS Women's Health Correspondent
Hope Taibbi and Virgil Texas start a podcast
Lol will talking about taibbi. One of the worst episodes was will and professional bad take haver amber agreeing with taibbi that cops are a good working class profession and Texas downplaying slavery in their curriculum isn't so bad
I feel like this is a misrepresentation, but I don't remember or care enough to go and check.
“baby needs to fuuUUuUuuck” 🤣🤣🤣
Omg his babyfur trajectory ☠️
Glad y'all called out Taibbi. I discovered Chapo on episode 77.
U doing a hypocrisy bro???
David J Roth should be the new 3rd. Great episodes when hes on.
David has a real job that he has to attend to 😛
Thank you for the long overdue Matt Taibbi takedown. Not since Mark Crispin Miller has a once solid progressive voice gone of the deep end as badly as Matt has.
Honestly compared to McMaster congresswoman woah Vicky would be more entertaining
Can we get a collections of all the Roth appearances please? He’s such a goddamn pleasure.
The = keys and random characters in the emails are from email formatting when downloaded/recovered that gets put into the messages, it wasn't typed that way. Seen tons of people mentioning them.
The random equals signs in the Epstein files are because the DOJ half assedly converted the emails (which aren’t plain text so there are some random instances with character rendering errors resulting in equals signs)
Roth truly is The Both
After that “and have 99% of my brainpower left over” remark, what Elon meant was he watches a split screen of family guy clips and subway surfer on a big iPad but he thinks he’s controlling subway surfer with his mind.
Sweet summer children, just cos Bannon *said* he had all that footage for a future documentary he claimed to be making, it doesn't mean he was, lol. Has he made any documentaries before? Will he make any since? He could've finished this alleged documentary years ago too. He ain't an honest man fellas, and he only said that after lots of pressure as response to everyone asking him why he was so buddy with and had so much video of Jepstein lol
A bunch of the footage from it is literally in the newest release.
The automated rape and destruction of the world: the ultimate business model of moronic tools for capital who ritualize their sense of free will with psuedo scientific bs and sexual abuse while being actually propelled by their usefulness as meat nodes to perpetuate an exhausted American world order
I don't understand the hate on Bluesky. I follow lots of leftists and other really great people and I don't have to be on the pedo site owned by Elon where the first 100 replies to a post are all explicitly racist. People complaining about getting blocked on Bluesky feel like the same people who are mad their posts don't get likes on Twitter.
I quit Bluesky because it was boring, but as I recall the consensus complaint was that it's full of lib scolds who can't recognize a joke
Walter Kirn name drop fucks me up. went to school with his kid in montana. VERY OBNOXIOUS PEOPLE
No Roth, no peace. Know Roth, know peace.
Jeffrey Epstein, a true Renaissance man and Philosopher King who experienced (fucked) everyone, and everything. How does one aspire to such achievements? Do you have to become Jewish?
Ashkenazi
Dropsite had a great scoop abt Epstein helping improve relations between Modi’s India and Israel. Makes me wonder about all the Indian accounts that flooded twitter at the end of 2023
They’ve been throbbing for Israel well before 2023
I hate Elon as much as the next guy but those emails are clearly fake / fabricated
Why would they be faked? What would be the point?
Big dick Willie masterclass: “Matt’s book, No Pair-ah-sahn”
Between the Epstein stuff and Nancy Mace's mug this episode is the embodiment of the "Not involved in human trafficking T-shirt" tweet
Hyman Roth's speech from Godfather 2 about Las Vegas and Moe Green, but it's about the 2020's business world and Jeffrey Epstein.
Every thing I hear about Glue Factory Perez makes it sound like the very last thing she was doing before government was living with the Manson Family
I like Glucosekampf Perez because she seems like if a Portlandia character became a congressperson
I lived with people like this when I lived in Portland in the 2000s and unfortunately I probably have meet her at some point and it absolutely freaks me out one of these people is in power
You guys should have Isaac from the coexi$t inc pod on to talk about mgp
Omg please
I got blocked out of existence on Bluesky for saying that Davis Lynch was overrated as a filmmaker. Heresy to all the virtue signallers.
Well. This is an idiotic opinion.
FINALLY, some much justified shots fired at Taibbi!!!! A guy whose political transformation over the last decade is only explained by being either bought off or blackmailed.
As they said “many such cases.” Lots of Gen X people like the idea of being radical and contrarian and have found that by being anti-anti-Trump and anti-anti-Israel. Which, inevitably leads to being anti-anti-pedophile.
If AOC wants to be president, holding the equivalent of the Truman Committee hearings for the Epstein associates would be a good way to do it.
She cries and gets bullied. She sucks and won't. She's a loser. Sorry. You will have better luck with Ro Khana, or again Jay Jones.
This episode was promised to us 3000 Tuesday’s ago
Some posters died. While that is a normal consequence of the meme war, some of those deaths were caused by missing slop.
Nancy mace using her staffers like they're space monkeys from fight club
stomach churning stuff. can you guys get eyup on re: mandelson?
I can’t believe the guys didn’t reference the video of Nancy Mace taking a shot of tequila, transporting it via kiss into the mouth of a butch lesbian with a trump shirt and a zyzz haircut who then passes it to a guy, then to another woman, and then the guy wretches and vomits on the floor.
My eyes!! 😵
such a phenomenal discussion about how epstein shaped our modern world. this episode is so insightful it feels like an audio version of hypernormalization
This shape ✡️ ? sowy i couldn't help myself don't b mean to me thanx
Lady Leahy. My heart soars.
I hope Will didn't torture Kath while he was sick
the = thing is a problem with the encryption (there are tons of typos that are him typing bad but those are not)
Good to know
Taibbi is such a pathetic cuck now. It’s still hard to figure out wtf happened to him
Seriously. I've listened to hacks that eventually made the right wing turn but he's by far the smartest one. Like he's too smart not to know what he's doing. Fucking loser.
lol I have hemochromatosis. It’s a liver processing thing where you don’t filter iron as fast. You can definitely drink
S/o to a fellow chromhead, yes you can definitely drink lol
shout out to Isaac at Coexist Inc. pod for the MGP lore
Was Epstein hosting a monthly dinner for schmucks?
FINALLY! Let’s hear some anti-Taibbi shit
Re: the rape and pillage of Russia in the 90s: really, all the jokes that permeated American culture about Russian mail-order brides in that era should have been the first alarm bell, never mind what DynCorp did to the breakup if Yugoslavia
Was l brands using dyncorp planes at one point? I vaguely remember that
I have no idea what woe Vicky is. Is it some east coast ELITE reference?
more of a mid 2010s lolcow thing. She was something of an instagram rapper that feuded with bhad bhabie
Nancy maces "I cant drink alcohol because of a disorder" sounds a lot like prince andrews "I cant sweat because of a disorder"
this is the exact Male Lie I was reminded of
For a guy w audible vapevoice Felix sure hates gas station drugs
Nah Amber used to complain about him leaving Kratom dust all over the apartment when they were roommates
Nancy Mace sounds scary similar to an old manager of mine named Carol that I had an affair with. All the craziness and the alcohol and sexual harassment.. couldn't fix her haha
Nancy Mace really used the Prince Andrew “I genetically can’t sweat” defense
holy shit russiagate should’ve been called israelgate is the most insightful thing i’ve ever heard
I want Nancy Mace to push me down a flight of stairs.
"Look I promise the shipment was something stupid (anti-death pills) and nothing evil (slaves)"
Patriots are 100% a product of their cupcake Mickey Mouse schedule
The diamond of wisdom in that whole 2-hour interview is when Epstein says that wall street freaks trick people into thinking finance is more complicated than it actually is in order to artificially inflate their worth as a group
Oh and he kept pronouncing Leibnitz as "Rrrrreibnitz"
Steve Bannon: you're a math genius. A math wizard, even. Nobody comes close to doing math as good as you can do it Epstein: You see, sun tzu said to always attack cities using giant movable walls
Nancy Mace only person in Congress with a viral drinking video,a famous non drinker
You guys are about 7 years too late to the shit on Matt taibbi party but glad you’re here
The Richie Icongnito reference by Felix cements this one on my Chapo Mt. Rushmore: Respect, Burger Night, White Lines, A Guy Who Never Dies.
What is woah Vicky and why does Felix always say it
He uses it in place of the n word
I have been an occasional Peter Attia listener for a few years. Fairly smart, very arrogant, decent health information with a real scientific understanding. BUT he did a women's sexual health episode where he would not stop asking his expert guest about squirting until she had to forcefully move the conversation along.
Me too. Didn't see that ep, but i stopped watching all those guys because nobody needs ten years of three hour podcasts every week to tell them to eat right and exercise.
nancy mace zaza crashout
"Chaos is a ladder." - Jeffrey 'Littlefinger' Epstein
WTF. I hemochromatosis and have never been told to manage my alcohol consumption.
Once again loved you in Van Halen
You can see his junk through his jumpsuit.
People still have to come -Felix
Reynaldo Fink Mandelson
I’m investing in my David J Roth IRA so fuckin hard rn bro
Epstein first linked up with US intelligence when they tried to groom him into doing a mass shooting
lev parnas mentioned
What did Taibbi do? I have vaguely positive associations with some of his work and appearances on the show.
He’s a pathetic tulsi style maga defending weirdo now
Ok I’ll bite: who’s Jeffrey Epstein
I believe it's pronounced "Jet-Ski" Epstein
Pretty sure my mom bought me Cognition: the Science of Thinking for my last birthday.
The = sign thing is definitely not a typo, it has to be some sort of encoding error. It occurs in emails from Epstein as well as from other people to Epstein. I sincerely doubt that everyone is making that highly improbably typo.
Filet-O-Semitism
After listening, I thought I would settle the equal sign question:“they reused an algo that was usually run in an SMTP server context to do the line unfolding — in that context, you can safely assume that the line ending is a CRLF” https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2026/02/02/whats-up-with-all-those-equals-signs-anyway/
Thank you I was one of those morons thinking it had to be some kind of code
Diamond Dave, he’s your ice cream man stop him when he’s passing by
Sneaker mentality
Episode was late to accommodate Will’s time at the reeducation camp for forgetting Master Roshi and Piccolo last week.
He was trying to find the show =3
Hit the hardest facepalm of my life when I saw the emails about pandemic simulations and transgender experiments, like 20 million Americans who were finally beginning to question whether the stupid culture war bullshit fed to them was a distraction just got the PERFECT proof they’ve been waiting on for a decade that both are Jewish psyops. What can you even say at this point? Nobody is going to believe us when we say Epstein was just a retarded loser that wanted to be the Howard Hughes of pedophilia and medical science and in context there’s thousands of other emails where Epstein is throwing out some crazy scientific idea for the sake of his own perversions or others’ perception of him. A declassified email where one of the most prolific elite child sex traffickers in history talks about pandemic simulations with bill gates or offers ideas for genetically feminizing men is just such a terrible look lmao
Tbf like half of the people who would be receptive of that also believe pedophiles are good now because trump is one of them
Katy Balls is not Ed Balls daughter
Yeah she’s big balls’s sister
Is Katie Balls related to the illustrious Michael Balls Penis?
The pre-2010 b references are extremely topical. Gg
hope the vod is a video feed instead of strictly audio for the live show PS come back to Texas ily
Sadge i can't make it cause it's the same weekend i'm going to the Rockies home games opener with friends and fam
Stop delaying the inevitable and just make Roth the third mic
I love how preoccupied Felix is with the concept of hatred between mothers and daughters
I'm always thinking about when he said that every daughter eventually becomes older than her mother
I've been laughing so hard at the idea of some Charlie Kirk-looking staffer for Nancy Mace who needs to write differently on different Reddit accounts, so one is a picture of Nancy with "We Gon Have To Take It To Tha Old School Fa This, Cuz She's A Brick House!!!"
he is slowly consumed by his Puerto Rican Reddit identity, his pants keep getting tighter and shorter, and one day, Nancy barges into the Posting Room with 2 bottles, kicking her shoes off so hard that the right one cracks a window and the left one knocks a Crate & Barrel dome light off the ceiling, because he's leaving Youtube links in the comments and forgot to turn down the speakers, so he's fucking BLASTING "Suavamente"
I love living in Hogtown America where reading is gay and we’re infinitely more likely to get a nuke than a Chapo show in the state.
We get what we deserve.
The equals sign is an artifact of email encoding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable
Also, Nellie Bowles is Bari Weiss's wife, and that bitch was in the Epstein club.
how else is she suppoed to become "the funniest writer in America"
[like Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk!"] Roth!
Berghain mention 47:47
Critical failure on the title of Matt's book at the end. Qué pasa gringo Memo? No puedes leer el español?
I’m currently reading all 3.5 million of the emails just to be sure I personally not in them (so far so good!) so this is nice to listen to while I’m doing that
good luck hope you get to change your name
the Ehud Barak example is the exact point: if you did horrendous shit with Epstein and then you wanna move some money around, you make sure Jeff gets that job. Leon Black, same shit. It's not exactly "blackmail," it's how all this shit works, just not usually so fucking LITERAL
And now that we have what's probably a firsthand description of what Leon Black did *from his victim*, we get a sense of scale: somebody at Apollo says, "Hey, I just noticed we've still got that freelance account for 'tax advice' open. You want me to wrap that up?," and Leon Black says, "Nope, still using it"
I'm calling it now: in a few years libs will be going on about how "the Epstein cancellation stuff went too far" while the right will have fully normalized cis men doing child sex abuse out in the open. I mean, the right basically is already doing that rn, so "a few years" may be too generous a timescale here. And the rest of us will be hearing about how, like, a DSA member won a seat on the Peoria city council and this changes everything just keep supporting the Democrats. This shit going public while we lack *any* political movement willing to go after the abusers is only going to embolden them and normalize the abuse even more than it already is. This country has nowhere to go but down, into an abyss so dark we'll never find our way out. Not that it was a particularly nice place before. But the future has so much to show you.
idk I have a lot of sympathy for the Epstein shit but you really start to lose me when you posit that a bunch of Wall Street vampires needed his input before implementing some new type of enshittification monetization scheme. This is just not a very marxist material analysis thing of you to say
if you're talking specifically about microtransactions, Team Fortress 2 went free to play based on hat revenue in 2011 and the emails mentioned with Kotick are timestamped 2013 so on its face it's categorical that Mr. E did not introduce the concept to team Call of Duty. Oblivion Horse Armor dates from 2006 anyways
Just had to check but I love that epstein’s spotify where he misspells every playlist name is still up lol (jeevacation)
the supreme irony that Mark Ames was writing metaphors about the rape of Russia by the West and got accused of litteral rape by people who were basically all Epstein associates
a gay who never dies
A gay who never dies: the Adam Friedland story
Felix might as well work for Vice when he talks about Russia. You don’t have to be a Putin guy or whatever to make the slightest attempt at having a reasonable and informed position on another country.
Fascist Realism
Roth confirming what I, someone who has mostly sought to ignore the Epstein/Maxwell saga for years for my own selfish reasons, already suspected: if you are a type of political adherent who would like to tie Jeffrey Epstein to the FSB, to the SVR, to KGB or hell, even the "not-totally-awesome" factions of the Ukrainian nationalist movement or whomever, your problem is, while you MIGHT be able to do so if you bend your neck and squint hard enough for long enough, you are going to be wadding waist-deep in his openly acknowledged, if embarrassing, political and even intelligence ties to at least four members of NATO (probably five, waiting for the Turkish shoe to drop more convincingly to skeptics like me), alongside the obvious Israeli connection. And there may be a very simple reason for this: American and western shock therapy/civil impoverishment/theft/etc. of the CIS countries, starting with the Russian Federation, may've well suited that type of centrist big-tent electable autocrat (your Shushkevichans, your Kuchmians, and yes your Yeltsinites), especially when they were running for elections against, say, resurgent communists (or in the Russian Federation, encircling communists in the houses of parliament and firing at them with T-80U tanks), this isn't in fact a sustainable political arrangement over a decade or two. At some point, if their successors decide they do, in fact, what to exercise some degree of regional hegemony (like Yeltsin's successors eventually did), they're going to have to realize, they might have to give up the awesome access to the New York City Metropolitan Sex Crime Gala or upset the kooky guy who runs it, even if boils down to such basic calculus as "Okay, well, if generic-oligarchs are going to loot seventy years of Soviet state investment across 300 million persons, they should probably be funneling the proceeds to the rich types in Leningrad Oblast, and not, say, Florida, where I don't get a cut. Also, white slavery on this massive a scale is publicly embarrassing and technically bad for the demographic crisis." It's not really that farfetched to assume Epstein, and his career, would've made him a lot better friends with the rich oligarchs on this side of the Atlantic than on the other. Does that make all those Eurasian rising capitalist cronies fair-weather friends? Possibly. We all have our faults; there are worse ones than, "Failed to go to bat for a rich American sex trafficker because of the time all his friends in NATO, who you stupidly thought might also be your friends, tried to kill your nephew in Damascus with a drone strike." And yes, microtransactions, while very naughty, are not on par with the the ravaging of Eurasia after the dissolution of the USSR. Loot boxes, para-gambling i.e. Counterstrike skin casino, and pre-2018 "harmless" fantasy sports management are/were all discernably closer. So, solid episode. Hope you're feeling better from your cold, Will.
No one has been proven more right over time than Peter Dale Scott
honorable mention: dave macgowan
Poland is opening an investigation into whether Epstein emails are a good enough reason for law enforcement action because "it looks like a KGB op" and it's a very funny reaction to it.
I hope you’re feeling better, Will!!
Hm, it's less a criminal mindset and more a CIA asset drunk on power and unaccountability mindset. Have known some fairly nice criminals, but not CIA assets lol
Uncle Sam? More like Uncle CSAM amirite
Put Will back in the med bed, he needs to bake a bit longer.
Guys, give Roth or Ettingermentum the third seat. We love Matt but he needs to rest.
Or just keep it as is, which seems to work perfectly fine.
ROTH
Mr. Chapo in the Epstein files, says he came like a stallion.
fwiw the explanation i've heard for all the random = signs is that the documents were digitally converted from one format to another and it's some kind of character recognition artifact. like his spelling is still dogshit but even so i don't think he was just randomly hitting = two or three times per sentence.
I read someone on Twitter say that the weird spelli=gs make the documents harder to search but...? I'm not sure about that one.
ctrl + f "virgil"
Computer, cross reference "Justin Cass".
Im battling my flesh
The geniuses at Patreon have removed the ability to listen to the podcast in a browser. Who asked for this????
chapo conspicuously not in the Epstein files, too small time
Epstein: weve got the opurtonity to service so many of your ... needs, if your understnad whwat I meant Menaker: I already told you, if this isn't an ad for legal weed I'm not interested
Saw the notification pop up on my phone and screamed Roth like he just hit a three run moon shot to take the lead in game seven
Sixty-seventh
Slop me off, pls and thanks
All I wanna be is
Not Epstein-w-Homer-glasses as episode art
Thank god I started going through withdraw
Chapo implicated in the Ep(i pen-needing)st(eam, the video game market) files
This need some workshopping but i got something
Not only poop. But also pee.
Felix begins speaking at 1 minute and 32 seconds
Never a doubt
Hell ye David Roth is always good
Life: it never die
Roth 🐐
About time ya queers.
david j roth is always a must listen
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Woke up at the right time.
Are you still talking about this… Jeffrey? Epstein? This guys been talked about for YEARS!
Meats back on the menu boys
Looks like!
Just when I was hankering for some Roth
WE ALMOST DIED CHRIS
LEBRONS JAMES AT THE BUZZER
WooOOO
YESSSS
LETS GO
