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December 11, 2024

Seeking a Fren for the End of the World: Episode 1 - This is Really Just the Beginning

In a new series by Felix, Josh (@ettingermentum), and Spencer, we ask: how did the Republican Party, once the dominant force in American culture for almost a generation, become a group of bowtied cosplayers and rapist streamers yelling about Litterboxes? We trace this development back to the empires built by two men—Paul Weyrich and James Dobson—as well as the failures of one Pat Buchanan.


This episode draws from Dan Gilgoff’s The Jesus Machine and David Grann’s “Robespierre Of The Right.” For a full list of sources, check our works cited doc here: www.chapotraphouse.com/seeking

Comments (149)

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Andy Kraushaar · March 9, 2025

This is my third time going through this series and that "hot knifing dog chemo meds" bit stil kills me.

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Scot Forsythe · January 6, 2025

Tex!

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treat · December 30, 2024

Pastor TL Barrett 💞

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Edgar · December 26, 2024

Great for a Christmas drive home 👌🏽

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Joio · December 21, 2024

It’s a bit dry

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TheHairyClevage · January 2, 2025

No, that's your penis.

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TLT · December 20, 2024

Apologies to the surely excellent work of the others involved but please begin giving ettingermentum the same amount of content appearance/contribution time as is currently allotted to virgil

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Joseph Shields · December 20, 2024

Great stuff. Would love to hear more.

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Jennifer Hammerhead · December 19, 2024

Bro Ive seen all of Schaeffer's videos and at one point had a complete volume of books. I read about half of them. I read A Christian Manifesto at least 3 times. Nobody talks about the man but he is critcal in understanding the theology/politics of that era of conservative Evangelicalism. He also looked like an elf and wore lederhosen.

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Jason · December 19, 2024

Father I stretch my hands at the end?

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Noahjon marshall · December 18, 2024

The bibliography is 48 pages long 👏🏼

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Bil · December 18, 2024

This is so goddamn boring

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Jingle Jangler · December 18, 2024

Oh next time listen while watching family guy best clips and mazerunner streamers

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Studio Novaya by Fredrick Edward · December 18, 2024

Great work, very into this, thank you.

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Aaron M · December 15, 2024

I live like 10 minutes from the Amway world headquarters. "Rich" DeVos went by "Dick" DeVos. I thought you would all like that. Unfortunately his dumbass name is on every other university building in the area so the DeVos family has an open invitation to have their balls licked by honors students two or three times per semester. The DeVos family has been trying to retroactively erase history, that cunt will always be a Dick.

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Alex Weber · December 14, 2024

Felix, Spencer, and Josh this was awesome. I’m hooked

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Justin Kase · December 14, 2024

Loving this

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Justin Webber · December 14, 2024

May have missed it, did they say this would be a weekly release on Patreon?

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Sisyphus · December 14, 2024

I am not still following it! (abstinence) not voluntarily anyway. I’m voluntarily involuntary abstinent wait….

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Megan · December 14, 2024

My current addiction to podcasts probably can be traced back to FoF’s Adventures in Odyssey. Salute to Dobson for introducing me to the audio drama format

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David Woodward · December 20, 2024

Right? Spent 8th grade binging those off their website

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Aaaaaaaaaaaron1 · December 14, 2024

"It must've resembled a version of O block populated by lemon party participants" lmao. this is so fucking good you guys

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james lynch · December 14, 2024

Am I confused or isn't Rich Voss the comedian, Rich Devos is someone else

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Casey S · December 14, 2024

Oh Felix! I didn't know you cared...

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James F LeBlanc · December 13, 2024

Christ Felix, it's Paul WHY-rick!

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Instantdumbass · December 13, 2024

Damn Unc is cooking fr.

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K H · December 13, 2024

You spend money. I rape money. We are not the same.

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K H · December 13, 2024

We love the sicko deep lore. Ran through this a couple times. Once gooning. Once falling asleep post goon sesh. Maybe once more paying attention.

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Zachary Wood · December 13, 2024

This made my 3rd eye open wide and I discovered swag for the first time

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RDew · December 13, 2024

What’s the title of the outro song?

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jack dougal · December 13, 2024

Pastor tl barret: father I stretch my hands

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Khemith · December 13, 2024

Ok some praises and criticisms: I like the music seques. A good look into how Democrats got spooked into their current political meta. My only gripe: Felix is just not suited to reading a script not written by himself. It's not terrible or anything. I listened to the whole podcast in two sittings. Maybe add a conversation interlude between the scripted stuff?

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NitroDickclapp III · December 13, 2024

Damn this is amazing, Felix and the boys knocked it out of the park.

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Malaparte_Animal · December 13, 2024

Felix lookin for Affrin at the end of the world. We love him folks we do

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etienne · December 13, 2024

bit disappointed Joshingermentum isn't speaking on this, i really enjoy his Nick Mullen on nootropics drawl

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Tyler Sutherland · December 14, 2024

why would you wnat to hear what he wants to say, he framed himslef as Mr. Too-Damn-Elections for the apst year and he was 100% wrong on every level about the election lmao

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Evan Pitkin · December 13, 2024

Actually laughed out loud a few times. Well written.

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Boaz Corey · December 13, 2024

A corner of history I never cared to read about, since the hilarious media from that time sorta speaks for itself. Thanks Felix

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mariol struga · December 12, 2024

its so crazy cause ive never seen heard or participated in any of these things… closest ive been was 4chan but its a whole world of crazy right wing media. is the mid ass shit i see on tv and internet just “lib shit”?

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T33ny · December 12, 2024

Hey Felix, I'm more than happy to edit and mix your all of your audio files for cheap. I enjoy the content but I'm so annoyed from not only the phasing on the phasing in episode 892, but now the utterly obvious separate takes with different gain structures and/or mic positioning in this episode. It's distracting for those of us who are even slightly sensitive to this and it's relatively easy to fix. Ive worked in the music industry for +20 years. Please feel to reach out or dm me.

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T33ny · December 12, 2024

On top of that I'm 15 mins from Glendale

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Ian Baumgart · December 12, 2024

How does Felix’s audio quality still suck after a decade? You should actually pay Metro Boomin to fix the file plus you get a good tag on the intro

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etienne · December 12, 2024

"and, if you're listening to this program, there's a good chance it worked so well that you're still following it!"

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kron · December 12, 2024

if young metro don’t trust you I’m gon shoot you

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Man2quilla · December 12, 2024

Oh boy, another podcast that makes me wish hell was real

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James Roche · December 12, 2024

The fingerprints of the disgraced fraud Ettingermentum are all over this one.

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kron · December 12, 2024

I felt burned for buying into his electoral predictions, but on policy he usually seems to have the right ideas.

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Ric Mahurin · December 12, 2024

Is this going to be released weekly or are we getting a batch release? I really like the topic and don’t wanna wait 😘

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Devon Cunningham · December 12, 2024

This is a common mistake but DeVos is pronounced Dee-vaws not Dee-vose. Great first episode.

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Michael · December 12, 2024

I remember Erik Prince correcting a congressional representative on that when he was testifying about Blackwater atrocities in Iraq.

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Dan Nancarrow · December 12, 2024

so good

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Bustin Makes Me Feel Good · December 12, 2024

I’m lovin it

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Michael S. Judge · December 12, 2024

What was that Pat Buchanan theme drop at like 28:00? You guys who didn't grow up in a rich Catholic fascist milieu have no idea how large a presence Pat Buchanan was in the millennial teenage Political Guys of the News World pantheon

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Michael S. Judge · December 12, 2024

I think he might've been my first realization that there was a whole world of guys fucking everything up who weren't even in the government and that I was to become accordingly pissed

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Nora · December 12, 2024

Thank you for a series like this!!

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Harrison B · December 12, 2024

Subscribed for this, great insights. As someone that grew up in Grand Rapids, MI. The Devos family have funded every right wing hack for the last century. I wasn’t surprised to hear how far their ties go.

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Jake G · December 12, 2024

Awesome guys

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Sam Schick · December 12, 2024

Real good work

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Tim Mullen · December 12, 2024

Very dope, very cool Felix!

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ResilientBastard · December 12, 2024

“Trent Lot of Elvira fame” lololol

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Laura · December 12, 2024

In listening to this, I realized that I don't think I ever actually heard the original "read my lips" speech, just the people making jokes later. That was such a catchphrase for a while.

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lemao · December 12, 2024

banger. been listening to blowback, and i LOVE this style of series.

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Jalen Onisko · December 12, 2024

I was raised on that Dobson shit. My step dad even worked for Focus On The Family. Not a day goes by that I don’t wish pain upon James Dobson

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J C · December 12, 2024

Same, it was actually kind of infuriating hearing the old shit's voice again

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Tea for the Tillerman · December 12, 2024

Loved the El-vi-raaa echo

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b2b saas purveyor · December 12, 2024

series artwork kinda rules

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Craig · December 12, 2024

Real ones got that Rich Vos joke

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Helen Eleonora Thomas · December 12, 2024

Hell yeah love Spencer

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jepasc · December 12, 2024

I love the guys but it's killing me to hear them always say "renumerate" when they mean to say "remunerate"

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Podcast subscriber 78 · December 13, 2024

Man they love re-numeration, even when reading off a script that says remunerate. I guess they think money is written in numerals so you “re-numer” yourself? It’s so funny to me.

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Rene Saller · December 12, 2024

Such s great episode. Looking forward to all the subsequent ones. Thank you for the peerless collab.

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memorymachine · December 12, 2024

who was choosing the music? i'd guess spencer or chris based on the taste. nice XTC track

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Andrew Cross · December 11, 2024

ah so Dobson inspired Shower With Your Dad Simulator 2015

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Munir hakim · December 11, 2024

This shit fire bro

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Mangomoosh · December 11, 2024

Xtra Eloquent felix is cool. Truly 😎 a voice made for poetry. ❤️

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B.C. · December 11, 2024

Never thought I'd see Chapo x Manic Street Preachers lol

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lars · December 12, 2024

or Chapo x XTC

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james · December 11, 2024

I grew up in rural South Carolina, and anywhere you went as a child has focus on the family children's magazines, they were everywhere. Every doctor, dentist, and divorce lawyers office I was in as a kid had them, hell My pediatricians office played videos from them as well on their early flat screen TV's that I found so cool. Haven't thought about that in years and hearing "focus on the family" hit me like a sleeper agent hearing his activation code

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Ale · December 12, 2024

My gf grew up in Colorado Springs, and when she went to an exchange term in Chile, at one point she stayed at an indigenous family with two books: a Bible and a Focus on the Family book

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Big Time Garbage · December 11, 2024

Excellent music choices. Looking forward to the rest of the series

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Eric Jacobsen · December 11, 2024

Amazing. I only wish this one was split into two or three longer episodes. For any dumb-dumbs like myself: “fren” is apparently slang for “Far Right Ethno-Nationalist”

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Blorst of times · December 11, 2024

Comeback zinc!

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Kinetics Video · December 11, 2024

Framing this as an obituary for a failed movement seems uh, bold given how election went? Or have I missed something?

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interzoa · December 11, 2024

Two fail movements fighting for votes in a fail state. Whoever won the election, it doesn't prove the party's vitality, it proves the expiration of a country's political institutions

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Gucci Brandt · December 11, 2024

It was good. I enjoyed it. I’ll be listening to the rest of the series for sure. I think the style of it especially at the beginning can be distracting from the point by being verbose, spoken quickly, and having a lot of video game/pop culture references. I find myself having to press the rewind 10 sec button a lot to catch the main point.

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Podcast subscriber 78 · December 11, 2024

Came here to find this comment. Having the same experience. There are a number of highly concentrated references and metaphors and jokes very close together, the way you’d normally find see in a pithy essay (with interesting footnotes). EDIT: I’ll say it does get a lot better.

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Jesse Svetlich · December 11, 2024

Big ups Felix

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Max · December 11, 2024

This Felix guy is super interesting, they should have him on the pod more often

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Chairman Corn · December 11, 2024

This is the start of a great series! Thank you Felix!

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Natalie · December 11, 2024

Why do people have such weird fucking beliefs man. All these men are freaks. It baffles the mind to even think people connect with their ideas

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billbo · December 11, 2024

Closeted bi/gay usually.

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Schwartz666 · December 11, 2024

"My opponent now says he will raise [taxes] as a last resort or a 3rd resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into!" 🔥 Full Bush bars right there.

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Liam Sweeney · December 11, 2024

Both an incredible episode and an incredible birthday present to me lol. Can't wait for the rest of the series

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linguinitortellini · December 11, 2024

Happy birthday!

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Brendan Kneeland · December 11, 2024

Love the Blowbackian opening starting with the Crowder humiliation ritual. A great use of the format

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drewb · December 12, 2024

Reminded me of that propagandhi song that starts with pigs squealing in an abbotoir, which was only marginally more distressing than whatever Stephen Crowder was doing

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interzoa · December 11, 2024

Its like a prequel to all that Warhammer lore (probably idk)

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Fernslinger · December 11, 2024

Hey Travis! What time does Felix start talking?

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T · December 11, 2024

I home school our kids - mostly because the schools in our area are poor quality and our kids have higher needs than what the schools can offer. There are a few families I know that home school that aren’t crazy, but most are reactionary Christian’s or reactionary woo-woo RFK types. It’s hard to know what to do with our kids -send them to the terrible public school or home school them and run the risk of it hurting them socially in the long run.

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B.C. · December 11, 2024

Send them to school man. Basically 0 ppl have the bandwith to fully teach 6 different subjects. If they start spouting nonsense, correct them, put the right book in their hands, but you are likely leaving something out yourself or at the very least de-socialising them

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Baduncadonk · December 11, 2024

Just started this, and the first ten minutes are honestly kind of embarrassing . . . How does Felix not know how to pronounce Weyrich and Viguerie’s names? Did he not watch or listen to any interviews with them that included introductions, nor any other A/V media referencing them? And, how does no one else catch the issues during editing? If you guys are going to make dedicated, in-depth podcasts, you gotta make a de minimis effort to get basic shit like subjects’ names right.

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Maicol · December 11, 2024

You’re talking about a guy who still mispronounces Kamala’s name

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The Steel Harvest · December 11, 2024

Felix, this is so fire. Abstinence Only at work.

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The Out · December 11, 2024

God we gotta get a soundtrack for this series put together, some of the best transition music we’ve had from a Chapo ep/series yet

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Matthew · December 11, 2024

hell yea this rocks. thanks felix

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Kentucky Shitlib · December 11, 2024

Excellent

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kitty pavlova · December 11, 2024

please tell me you give spencer a mic in one of these

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Erik Weissengruber · December 11, 2024

Max Blumenhal’s Republican Gommorrah gives a very good account of the truly wicked pastoral care-direct mail-political influence machine.

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Sergei Filipov · December 11, 2024

51:08 that was OD

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Loren Huggins · December 11, 2024

So Stoked on the Don Fagen IGY cut in E1. I feel seen.

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JP · December 11, 2024

Hell yeah

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Ksizzle · December 11, 2024

This that kinda series you gotta sit and listen to with your browser open

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Aiden · December 11, 2024

First

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Pat Z · December 11, 2024

The section on James Dobson made me realize some things about my childhood. Holy shit.

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Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice · December 11, 2024

Building a left political Acapella group to perform at events: Lu-i-gi! 🎵

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calvin kilby · December 11, 2024

Luigi from UEG

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cori · December 11, 2024

elvira mentioned

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Johnny Monday · December 11, 2024

Perlstein interview >>>>

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Feedback TV · December 11, 2024

This rocks

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Patrick Allen · December 11, 2024

I appreciate the list of sources and the crediting of scholars’ work.

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king_von_diesel · December 11, 2024

The needle drops- dang imma want a playlist at the end of all this.

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Ian H · December 11, 2024

Huge grin on my face hearing XTC, even though that's their worst song

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glieb · December 11, 2024

O BLOCK POPULATED BY LEMON PARTY PARTICIPANTS HAHAHAHA

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lake · December 11, 2024

Felix is so brilliant

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demonsweat · December 11, 2024

My parents listened to Focus on the Family when I was young. Pretty odd, since we were Catholic (they are still devout), and there was quite a bit of anti-Papist "Whore of Babylon" content that was confusing to me ("Mom, do we worship the devil?"). Hey, it was the 80s. Anyways, they stopped listening after a while, probably when they realized a lot of their friends were also listening and decided to leave the Church for some of the more "fun" evangelical denominations.

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Duncan Fraser · December 11, 2024

Did you ever listen to ‘Adventures in Odyssey’? Only exposure to it is through relisten episodes talking about it on ‘Worse of all possible worlds’ podcast.

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drewb · December 11, 2024

🤠 El-vi-ra 🎶

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Schwartz666 · December 11, 2024

The Earworm has escaped containment again! God help us all....

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Tim O' · December 11, 2024

Felix Mindset Returns 🔥

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True Horror Productions · December 11, 2024

HELL YEAH

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Peter Boardman · December 11, 2024

I like podcast

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Natalie · December 11, 2024

Congrats on the release Felix! I'm gonna listen as soon as I'm home from work at approximately 3:04ET

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Zach Pierce · December 11, 2024

24:00 IGY one of my favorite Fagwn tunes. Yacht rock? Possibly

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Blank · December 11, 2024

Felix first speaks at 00:40

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Julian Perez · December 11, 2024

Ooof this doesn’t work because it was made when it assumed a defeat due to Trump world being freaks, due to ettingermentum being WRONG on predicting this election. Not a genius, he just got lucky when others were wrong. Turns out being a freak wins, and the normal people lost, and Dobbs wasn’t that important

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king_von_diesel · December 11, 2024

Idk about that- I think he was right that the senate was lost, and the house was narrowly going to be close to 50/50. My main takeaway is that Trump isn't Trumpism, and non-college educated voters (while having inscrutable political and cultural beliefs) do have material interests not being met by the democrats. Someday in the future, we'll find out that Biden threatened to outright endorse Trump if she broke with him publicly on his foreign or domestic policy, depressing democrat turnout.

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CS · December 11, 2024

Been ready for this Felix series LFG!

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Ben Kamal · December 11, 2024

She's so many women. He can't find the one who was his fren.

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Christian Johnson · December 11, 2024

🙌

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Chris · December 11, 2024

Came at a good time. Im freakin pumped. Been drinking green tea all god damned day

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TugNuggins · December 11, 2024

Let's go baby

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McMiller · December 11, 2024

Let’s goooooo

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Tom Stevenson · December 11, 2024

Fourth!

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Zach Pierce · December 11, 2024

How’d they know?

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Cumtickles · December 11, 2024

My boy pussy is quaking for this slop, can’t wait to look for cum with a black light with this!

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That’s Crazy · December 11, 2024

we love a new series don’t we folks

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Christian Johnson · December 11, 2024

Many say it's the most beautiful series

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Tyler Joseph · December 11, 2024

Fresh slop

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Markus Kraköwski · December 11, 2024

No sleep for me I guess.