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fucking eggs! comes out of their arses!
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Reinhold?
All of these staple crops produce viable seeds. I think this started as some myth about "terminator genes" that would stop germination but terminator seeds are not a thing and have never been a thing. Farmers othen do not save seeds year to year because of two reasons. 1) Any GM traits are usually under patent, and saving and replanting seeds is considered a patent violation. 2) for some crops, particularly corn, the seed is a hybrid produced by crossing to fully inbred parents. This does a few things, hybrids are particularly vigorous growers and they are all nearly identical to each other so individual plants can't outcompete each other. Seeds from a hybrid cross (Gregor Mendel's F2 generation) are an absolute jumble and will lower yeilds the next year. Seed companies protecting their inbred lines and selling hybrid seed goes back to around 1900 in the US. Open pollinated (non-hybrid), non-GMO seeds are still available to farmers and individuals, but they can't produce the yeilds of hybrid seed.
All true, there is so much ignorance on how seeds are produced and sold!
Well, it only took me what 3 months to work out who that "German" guys is....
Farming audio only when?
We need an episode on LeTourneau land trains.
Bittersweet, but I love how many Milkshake appearances are in this one...
RIP Milkshake 💔
B1M just did a big episode on the Northeast Corridor. I'd say thats throwing down a gauntlet lol
recycling / oil propaganda episode when
Dying for the New Orleans show.
LIAM HYPHENATED MCANDERSON. Remember your manners, we do NOT speak to a lady of that age that way, we say Yes Ma'am Thank You Ma'am, now let's try again
audio version when
FREE MAHMOUD KHALIL Ofc we have to find him first in the pinochet hellscape that America has become
SOMETHING SOMETHING something something audio version...
That's why Lord dampnut is so obsessed with making Canada/Greenland our 51st state... He's prepping for the climate change he can't admit exists.
This episode is Nova realizing that everyone in Hollywood that you know about comes from money. And probably crazy-money. We just kinda started talking about nepotism when those actors had children that were also actors. And then maybe one line further down, so it's really obvious. And then you "wikipedia-them", and you learn how their great-great-grandad invented the Toaster Strudel in-between being the Imperial Wizard for his local chapter.
*Looking at India and China, going*: "hey. Don't be like us. Like, the whole thing." "Yes, I know like 99.9% of all media products we create over here - about ourself - is how fucking rad it is to be like us. Every now and then we make like an indie-movie about how it's actually pretty rad to - instead - live a very simple, agrarian, romanticized peasant-life." "So, just consider that there's like, other ideas of how to be, also. The distribution is just very lopsided right now. " "More to come, I am sure, as things quote-un-quote change a lot. My money is on us starting to say some really wild shit. I don't know if you've met us before, but we don't handle bad news super-well. We're very high-maintenance. We need A LOT of reassurance before we do something differently." "So, like, a lot of emotional-labor incoming. Just a heads up."
"Doing arable AND animals" is very ambitious. It's like, a bit of a handful in Stardew Valley. And that's just a video-game. I usually limit myself to a lot of crops, and then ducks. Maybe a goat or two. ..in the game, that is. In real-life I'd have already died from stress-related illnesses. It would have to be a strict "no firearms allowed on this property" kind of farm. You know - just in case.
Woo hogcontent. Content hog
For Gareth: Julian is a Mermaid, and Julian at the Wedding
Something something audio version...
Sorry, but gotta skip this one. When whatshisname said Clarkson was the worst human being on the planet, I lost interest. Yeah, he's a tw@, but in a world where you have literal dictators and warlords running "First-World", calling a tv presenter "the worst" is just letting whatever butthurt you have going on lead your life.
do you understand hyperbole for comic effect?
Cant find this on the Patreon rss feed. Please check if it is pushed out on it; thanks.
No Kermit learns Linux :'(
It's because Kermit actually values his time. He knows his clock is ticking, and he's over that hump in his life where he can't just "start over, and with gusto!". No. It's windows from now on for old kermie. Fuck "how easy it is, if you actually learn it, and don't get scared about the terminal. You see, this is a tar.ball, and it's called that becau...hello? Hello?".
For Gareth - Miss Rumphius is not exactly a queer children's book but I do credit it with making me the lesbian I am today. Recommend!
Can i get one of those invites to torrentleech?
Where's the audio episode??? I can't watch this! Not on my school laptop!
As far as building a politics around farming from the non-fascist or left parts of the political spectrum the time is ripe, but oh boy are there a lot of problems to work out. Farming (in the west) is pretty much dead center of the energy/climate/politics crisis and it's probably perfectly typified by a conservative farmers who have the time to drive machinery that costs as much and is a big as a house and just burns through fossil fuels like nothing else to the capital and waste valuable manure on a building. This is specific to the US but I don't think the current subsidy regime can hold politically if it's challenged. The farm bill includes food stamps because it was compromise between roughly equal sized rural and urban constituents with the understanding that farmers need to stay afloat despite the market and the urban workers must be provided with cheap food. Now that the population is overwhelming urban even the outsized influence of rural districts probably isn't enough if put to. There's no longer a million hog farmers in Iowa, there's just one guy. As far as a fundamental through line that would provide a common ground to organize around the best shot is probably the fact that both house prices and farmland prices must be decoupled from land speculation. If that means a cap on how many houses you can own and how many acres of land, good.
Apologies for the dumb question but is there not a way to listen to bonus episodes in an app that continues to play while I use other apps? Can’t do that in Patreon nor a browser.
The video is actually just on youtube unlisted. If you pop it out to the YT app you can background it as usual from there.
How does some English person think they have the right to call a Polish-American person anti-Semitic when England kicked out all the Jews
Kind of disappointed the only solution they mentioned was "nationalise everything" with no examples or breakdown of how much that would reduce food prices. Literally all that would do is reduce food prices, which is good and all but I was hoping maybe you'd mention specific practices that could help farms become more resilient against climate change etc.
ConAgra, Cargill, Tyson, GM, and the lot should be obliterated. Fundamentally in terms of farming's climate contribution you're either looking at 1. The insane amount of diesel to produce and ship everything, or 2. The loss of carbon from the topsoil from constant tillage. For the former there is something to be said about shortening supply lines esp on high value/low energy density crops, or you need to seriously consider how to farm with way less fossil fuel or provide nitrogen without natural gas. For the later, this can somewhat be mitigated with good farming practices like cover cropping, rotations, green manure, riparian buffers and no till but that typically carries increased herbicide use for burn down. In terms of climate resilience. That is very much a farm by farm type of deal and comes with tradeoffs. In the immediate term crops can be traded down to less water thirsty crops (if the market allows) or if water is still available but more variable irrigation can be used where rain previously worked, but that increases energy use. Hilltop cultivation can be stopped to concentrate water on the lowlands, in the medium term more heat tolerate crops can be bred. Parts of Sicily are growing mangos instead of olives now. But at some point there's a limit to what you can do and still be farming, and then after that you can ranch or gather, and after that... it's 3 people living off prickly pear fruit in a vast desert.
Super-heated corn chowder sounds fuckin' delicious!
Fight, Flight or Freeze
Like Gareth I took would like non-hegemonic toddler books for my daughter
Click clack moo. Best kids’ book about labor organizing.
Farewell and best wishes to Gareth!
this is fine🔥☕🔥
Bonus episodes are usually silly affairs, but this one's definitely a bit of a downer. Better to be aware than unprepared, I suppose. We'll miss you, Gareth!
Nebraska mentioned !!
I don't understand what an acre is and I work construction. How does one imagine land beyond what they know?
I think an acre is when you've been sorta day-drinking, stand up, and look towards the horizon, gesturing towards it, and clumsily try to make some grander point to a so-so friend about the ever-green spaces of possibility as it pertains to land that you own, should you ever make any fully realized use of what you own. That, is an acre.
Is the audio only episode coming soon?
Food Stalin is an oxymoron
Go fuck yourself
Anyone have any idea when the audio only version will be released?
Where’s the orange bennie Brit, i need him (Biblically) !!!
Am I the only one that noticed in the PPE pesticide picture halfway through that the worker on the left is barefoot?
Do you have anymore of those torrentleach invites Liam? Could you hook a brother up?
Liam if you have an invite Id love one 🏴☠️
The Ogallala aquifer is named after a town in Nebraska, which is named after the Oglala Lakota people. The water rights should be returned to the Lakota and Dakota people. FFS...
Cut it out, Milkshake. People are trying to till the podcast fields for the hogs
As someone who worked in Ag-Tech, the space is completely flooded with bullshit solutions that farmers don't want. Ive worked on strawberry harvesters and apple harvesters which both are extremely labor intensive and really, really difficult to replicate human quality picking, both in fruit quality and speed. I think its hard to say if anything will make it through to an end product, but one thing is true, the migrant workers in the end are the ones who lose. If the workers are paid more, the farmers look more and more for solutions to get rid of workers, which is where the automation comes in.
Well they're about to get a rude awakening unless we come up with some slave labor-esque work around for the deportations
Avocado harvest peaks in Southern California around January. My very old Fuerte Avocado tree produces fruit you can pick in November (smallish, tricky to ripen, tend to be rubbery) but they are better picked around January and continue to grow for months (although if they get too big, they ripen in layers and the outside will be near rotten, and the core still rubbery if you get, say, a 22 oz avocado monster). Only get a large crop once per two years. I think Hass trees are similar in timing but produce annually. Unsure the peak season for imported avocados, but my guess is Mexico would be similar, so the least natural season would be around late summer/Fall.
Not my city slicker ass playing stardew while I listen to this…
Forests parts 3
The clapping is getting better but there is still at least a couple of hundred ms between them all.
I'll take that torrentleech invite.
queer kid book: the sissy duckling by harvey fierstein
Dumb question - is there any way you can listen to just the audio? I know some episodes have audio only formats.
Hurry up, assholes. The hogs are hungry
I once looked up what the recommended acreage you need to go off the grid/live self sufficient. And they recommend 2.1 acres for a vegetarian, 18 acres if you need to raise livestock, per person. This is a problem because there's not even 16 Billion acres of habitable land on Earth. The reason we aren't all starving, although some populations certainly, is partially seafood, but mostly industrialized farming. Which has an atrocious impact on the environment. The amount of literal livestock shit alone that spills into freshwater, water sources is truly insane.
I basically feel like - and you don't even have to tediously be called "a doomer about it" - that a lot of how we live, what we expect as "being normal" is so easily mistaken as "how it always has been, and always will be" when it just as easily could be purely the result of, and the feeling of, being alive, in this particular time. This makes planning for the future very difficult, because you don't truly understand a dire situation until you are truly in it (and that situation could be theoretical, and far from actually happening). ...it's this dynamic that makes something like grand-scale "agriculture"/"how do we feed people?" a question that is almost as difficult to comprehend as the cosmos. Or, indeed, any planetary planning. ...it's just very difficult, when you plan for the future, to fully take into consideration the time you are in (as it pertains to how urgent things "feel"). //Not sure if that makes; been going through a lot that has to do with feelings of temporality lately, and decision-making, so it's particularly on my mind. I think it's just on a fundamental level very difficult for humans to plan very far in advance, but very easy for us to freak out when a crisis actually happens. And if that is true on a personal level, then it is true on a "let's plan for the future level", which includes "getting everyone on the same page" (and why that is so incredibly difficult, in the abscense of a unifying belief of some kind. More so, if there's actively forces that encourages isolation with other people).
Eel is absolutely delicious. Used in sushi quite a bit. Its basically a long fish
Liam, sent me an invite!
Corn sweat is awful, but it does supercharge that idyllic early morning fog. In the hilly areas down the road from my house, the fog pools in the low-lying areas over the creek, so you get these shaded foggy woodsy bits breaking up huge gold-orange morning sunlight lit corn and hay fields. All that combined with rundown farm buildings and wooden fences, creaking metal windmills and babbling streams, it makes walking to see the cows, like, cloyingly bucolic. So who’s to say if it’s bad or not.
It should also be said that - outside of" farming in the capacity of gardening on your little home plot" - that farming fuuuuuuckiiing suuuuuuuuuuuucks in terms of energy you need to put into it, crazy hours to get up, the overall work-load. It's crazy that anything can get done through it. It feels close to a miracle that it works well enough that you can depend on it as infrastructure for food-production.
A treat for the hogs about hogs!
My 4-H/FFA experience is finally going to pay off🍀🤠🐖🐄🥚🌾👩🏻🌾
Farmers treat their kids like orkz treat grots
OMG, condensing 5 years of classes at a land grant university into one podcast. And whole classes in organic chemistry down to three sentences - just so much fun.
"actionable threat" just means people clap when they hear it spoken aloud
Eating Warhammer figures is probably cheaper than buying eggs at this point
Dev, if possible, could you keep putting Milkshake faces on the screen whenever he mews? I loved that joke.
I'm having a shit day at work and every time Milkshake meows I smile. I imagine Devon also smiling as they're editing the podcast
Recently saw a yt channel called Farming Explained, he has some thoughts about how politics and farming merge in the UK. To a layman, the takes seem good.
As a child of the nineties the first slide gives me DREAD. At the age of whatever, quite young, I took one look at the news and went "I'm never eating beef again" and then simply never did, while everyone else just kept on going after a little break. Humans, unbelievable.
can this also be uploaded as audio so it shows up in my podcast app? thanks!
You guys at 48 minutes arw thinking of Cirencester Agricultural University. From experience of living nearby, I can confirm that all “Aggies” are complete cunts
Loved hearing my pet theory (as a kid who grew up on a farm) "farmers love their children less than other parents" and the seeds aren't necessarily nonviable, but most high yield commodity crops are grown from F1 seed for maximum hybrid vigor. The "inbred" parent lines (P1) are a lot less productive as are the following generation, the F2s. There are crops that seed saving is an option: "heirloom" and "varietal" lines. But seed saving is also not a simple or risk free process. It requires equipment to clean seed, the environmental conditions for full maturation, and curing, and appropriate storage facilities (which for optimal germination can require storage in inert gas until the next season).
yeah they got terminator genes and hybrids mixed up there for a second. Seed production gets overlooked way too readily even for the small scale gardening stuff. It really is a different skill to grow for good seed vs food production.
a food riot is really the only time one has the excuse to eat a bishop.
Ya'll put it on the free feed lol
Note to self: do not go hiking in the Schaffhausen Salient.
I'll take an invite link if you still have any.
The hogs crave the audio version
anyone else having an issue with seeing this episode? YT wants me to “sign in to confirm you’re not a bot” but there is no way i can sign in to YouTube through patreon. This is an app engineering disaster
Just to say recently a big YouTube channel with private listed Patreon videos had their entire Patreon only YouTube channel taken down with no recourse because YouTube didn't like their content (comedy skits)... So just because the video is unlisted it doesn't mean YouTube doesn't care unfortunately
At 1:48:00 - some GMO crops do have viable seeds - it depends when they were marketed and if they use so-called "terminator" genes or not.
What do I do for that invite? I'm a good seeder I promise!
I'm curious what the opinion is on aquaculture. I'd imagine it has similar flaws to vertical farming, but the integration of fish into the system to create a biology feedback loop, plus double harvests make it more promising.
Go Birds
Wtyp's fight or flight response is too upload the bonus episode for free. Cheers guys.
The Woke Liberal Left is afraid to admit that milk is the seminal fluids from cows.
kermit learns bsd
https://www.sexploratoriumdenver.com Gareth, email them for suggestions for queer friendly children’s books
What's the name of Gareth's podcast? TY!
Rail Natter
Y’all released the full episode to everyone
I'll take the win. WTYP is probably the only podcast where being a patreon donor is actively worse than the free version!
Meijer (in most of Michigan) and Meijer's if you're from up north
If Liam still has an invite I'd love one
I'll piggyback on this to say same
I found an old episode where John Fetterman had just won the Pennsylvania Senate Primary and Rocz and Liam were happy. I have a sneaking suspicion their opinion now is... different.
Get thee to the Adventures in Moomin Valley. It's all for free in potato quality of some quite elegant and dynamic Japanese studio animation doing Tove Janneson's characters from the Moomin world, on the youtube moomin official. Get them the comics and short story books. My personal favorite is Stinky, he's a massive fucking moron but he's my baby, but so is Moomin, I love him so much and the stories are so cute and so full of warmth and kindness and fun. There are some fancy mugs that live rent free in my mind.
I'm sorry. I made it 20 minutes in. It might be a great episode but everyone excitedly talking over each other just did it in for me. Maybe I'll try again later.
potatoes, they grow out of the fucking ground!
hueg if true
Liam said he'd give out invites to his private tracker? And you believed him??? But seriously, I'd love an invite
Harry Metcalfe is a way better car guy/farm guy to follow. Check out Harry's Garage and Harry's Farm on YouTube.
Book suggestion for Gareth - Nen and the Lonely Fisherman is a lovely queer-friendly book for very young children
Hey Yay Liam I would love an invite if you still got one free thanks
For Gareth's book request, I highly recommend and Tango Makes Three. It's about gay penguins.
Talking about silo safety brought me back to elementary school farm safety day that we had to do for the first 5-6 years of school.
Where do I sign up for neurodivergence corner?
I think a lot of podcasters are neurodivergent.
I am also rather interested in invites.
Yo liam hit me with that torrentleach invite
I'll take one if there's a spare
thank you dev for slowing the gif that genuinly saved me some nausea
Just me and my kitty cat snuggled up
I haven't even listened to the full episode yet (just got the patreon alert) but apparently there are invites to be had? Not holding my breath, but sure, I'll take one if they're still available.
I'd also like an invite if any are still available
Hey guys you posted the full episode as a preview on the free feed. Also would love that torrent leach invite
love the non actionable threat at 43:30
Yoooo link to the torrent leach....
yo liam I'll take that torrentleech invite
Hey so I feel like I know the answer, but if someone gets really upset at mentions of sad animals, I should skip this one right?
There's a early slide that mentions bovine encephalitis, but that's it. Most of the episode is agriculture focused
welcome to neurodivergence corner
NO NOVA?!?? I guess I'll skip this one
She comes in about 30 minutes into the episode.
Pretty sure they uploaded the full episode to the RSS feed in error.
It's a-larming how char-ming it is to be a-farming!
The WTYP crop is well watered this year. Good job hogs
Nova is spared some prion anxiety by her absence
You missed the Big win over on BlueSky when Nova posted about the cure for Prions having been found.
Agriculture was humanity's biggest mistake. We should have stuck to hunting and gathering.
I can haz torrentleech invite?
3 hour bonus lets fucking go
I FOR ONE WOULD TAKE AN INVITE
As a queer educator, I'd recommend "What Are Your Words" for when she's a bit older. :)
Hey Liam, can I get one of those invites? I promise to keep my bastardry to a minimum. Well, as minimal as a bisexual Texas rancher with an overpriced education, can love to you all, and y’all should come do a show in Dallas…. For Roz Nova et al y’all will discover why a Texan has never met a stranger only a friend we never met yet… my dear Liam you discover a Texan has only met enemies We didn’t know we had contempt for.
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Aaaahh, an episode that surely will not trigger any kinds of anxieties about availability of food, the robustness of supply chains, or foodborne diseases. Jolly!
Gimme prions and bird flu. thanks
ily all
They're finally taking down Big Farmer.
I can already feel the prion anxiety creeping back in.
There's one where you can't fall asleep
Thanks to Cinco my egg™?