Elsa's Nightmares Ch 1-4
Here's Chapter 4 of Elsa's Nightmares.
Although I originally wrote EN as a source of Patron perks for Mortze, that was back before the world fell apart. In the current world, we need all of the escapism as we can get, and we as human beings need to help each other however we can. Although this is a small thing, giving this free to the public is something Mortze and I can do.
I hope you enjoy it.
According to Renpy, this first link is supposed to work for both Windows and Linux. If that's not true and we need to make a separate Linux distribution, please let me know.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/la944egwpuf0ftg/ElsasNightmares-1.4-pc.zip/file
And this one is for the Mac.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tcznn86fk7jpwh8/ElsasNightmares-1.4-mac.zip/file
Hang in there, everyone. We'll get through this.
Tlaero
Comments (12)
Hi! Broken link here too (I think need to fix these old links when you have the time, I won't spam the comments for older content)
I quite recall I read somewhere that the original creator of the Elsa-verse had decided to stop their work and that they decided to leave the franchise to someone else. I think they informed us through mail and I remember how sad it made me. What went on then? As for my message, I indeed focus on this game as I know no new one and not on Elsa's pubic hair, it's rather the lack of interest in the story and the obvious fetish there that drove my attention there. It didn't even look like the Elsa-verse graphically. Concerning my accusations of being blocked, I simply could not post any message after the one posted upthere with my other account. I tried a good number of times before reaching to that conclusion which I found not very logical from Patreon while blocking someone who gives you money doesn't seem very logical indeed. When I managed to post that message with this account, it drove me to believe people could be blocked indeed. Anyway, maybe I've been so nasty because I miss these characters so much. I discovered your Pandora game 2 days ago and I really liked it, because it looked like the traditional games of when I used to love them. So I'm not sure about who I'm talking to _ if it is still the Tlaero and Mortze who made the games I loved, but please if it's you _ how can I know the new games we've been working on because it's quite hard to get informed on this page with 1 dollar fee. If I see them and like them, I'll apologize and increase my tips. It will not be the first time I'd have been unfair to you and come and apologize afterwards, and increase my fee.
We are still Mortze and Tlaero. Tlaero left for some months and I, Mortze, started a colaboration with iksanabot, but in the meantime Tlaero is back on track. I, Mortze, never stopped being on Tora Productions. Any game under Tora Productions name has always been made by Tlaero and Mortze. It's true that some time ago Tlaero posted about her retirement but since then she posted to update her situation and that she'd be back. Just follow the posts chronology :) Whenever Tora Productions posts something here on Patreon it's always either Tlaero or me, Mortze talking, no one else. I assure you that we never blocked you. We have never blocked anyone here on Patreon, and won't do it certainly not before talking with the person first to avoid such measure. You may try and submit a question to Patreon staff to ask what may have happened with your previous account. Let me suggest you to take some time and scroll through all our 1$ and public posts to clarify what may be some confusions. All of our informative posts are generally available to anyone, even public. We reserve weeklies pictures posts to higher tier patrons only. -- signed Mortze
I became a tipper with my other account only to post that answer since you seem to have courageously blocked me: I've simply mistaken the characters names, Elsa and Miranda. That doesn't change my very negative opinion of what you did with these games. And it is not Mortze I'm criticzing here: it's you. First I didn't know I spoke english so bad: it seems I wrote _ I'd say I meant _ that I'm a fan of pubic hair ("natural female genitals") in adult art and works, but I detest that it was transformed into the main attraction of the franchise now. The way you show pubic hair in your works is tainted and polluted with a fetichist background that seems to have taken over the story and the characterization. Tlaero and Mortze's games were superb and beautiful for how close they were with the human experience despite the fact that they are basically about magic and adventure. The credibility of the characters originates from the personalities, their interactions as well as their physical appearences. With you, that credibility has vanished : they have a closer resemblance to anime characters on an artistic point of view ands even in terms of characterization as they tend to act in a more archetypal way than they used to with Tlaero and Mortze. You made of these characters, who were so close to the human experience, some empty shells that are used in order to provide a fetichist fan-service. That horrible patch of hair Elsa has between her legs is clearly the result of some hairy fetichism. And it is darn ugly and doesn't ressemble her at all. Indeed, the female characters were hairy before because they liked it that way : it was natural and beautiful, an extension and expression of their sense of freedom and of their maturity. With you, they're hairy because we are supposed to like it that way... and it's completely absurd, improper and meaningless _ and still ugly. To sum it all up, I'd say you killed the interior and exterior beauty of these characters because you focus only on pornography. The people who did these game before you knew how to render magic and enchanting the most erotic aspects of their characters lives by always focusing on sensuality. It is something you cannot do. You can't use that concept. With you, everything is empty.
You may be mistaken on several things. First we didn't blocked anyone. We had no reason to do it, we asked a question instead, and franckly I am not sure how to even block member here. Secondly, it seems that you think that Tora Productions is different from Tlaero and Mortze. It isn't! Tora Productions is made by Tlaero and Mortze and no one else. Thirdly, we did not of what you say with the games. Elsa's pubic hair might have changed but it's the same character, with the same personality, goals and troubles, written by the same person. Saying that our games are only fetishes now is a misinformed opinion. We have plenty of games in our curriculum and it seems that the only one that bothers you is Elsa's Nightmares which is a game (on a list of several other games) where we explore some fetishes yes. You might try to play all of our other games to see if we're only caring about pornography and not story, and you might also try to pay more attention to what's written in Elsa's Nightmares and less to what's between Elsa's thighs. You'll see that there's is a story there too. You complain that the characters have lost their richness and personalities and the only example of that you give us is Elsa's bush which tells us that perhaps your criteria about what makes great characters isn't the same as ours. You're using a physical aspect of a character to criticize her personality and the story and the game's quality. I'm sorry you don't like Elsa's pubic hair but that's your personal opinion. Other people like that very much. And since we don't care about making characters that will please each player's personal taste (which is an impossible endeavor) we focus on the game structure and the story richness instead. Seriously, try our other games before reaching to conclusions about what we were and what we've become. -- Mortze
Hello. I played your new game and I must say I was very negatively surprised. It seems you made a Tlaero and Mortze a series for hairy fetichists, which it never was meant to be before you took it. It was more mature, more complex, more realistic and more romantic than other games even if it was about magic. But it never was about fetichism in any way. I really prefer "natural female genitels" if I may say so, but that doesn't make of me the kind of fetichist who are eager to see the Amazonian forest down there like you tend to show and which looks so fake, so unnatural as it is repelling, like the characters' new presonalitires. I played the Miranda game _ I think it is _ and OMG, she has nothing to do with what she used to be. She looks and behaves like a hentai character. I used to tip only 3 euros before, and since my revenue really increased I was ready to go really higher than that, but I can't due to to what I see. I don't recognize the games I used to play a few years ago in what you are doing and to me it is nothing like Tlaero and Mortze. I think what you do has nothing to do with their franchise because your perspectives simply crosses theirs but goes a very different way.
Are you only talking about disliking Mortze's taste in pubic hair, or do you have other issues as well? I'm confused, because you said that Miranda is completely different than in Finding Miranda, but Miranda hasn't been in Elsa's Nightmares yet. --Tlaero
Thank you! Windows distribution linked in the post works perfectly in my Linux system (Arch - x86_64). So there isn't any need for separate package.
Thanks for the Linux report, Dmitry! --Tlaero
Here I thought that Elsa had some hot dreams, turns out Jessica lives a even hotter real life
Well, clearly there is no party like rock star party!
Wow. Nice work as always, guys. I was gonna say, "Short but sweet", but I think "short but filthy" is more apt. Thanks!
