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September 14, 2023

The Bandai Micro-cartridge

A couple of weeks ago I looked at some of the smallest records ever made, today it’s the turn of the smallest endless-loop tape cart.

https://youtu.be/51ObvFfz3_g

Just like the records, this tiny cartridge was a suitable topic for a short video that I could make before I go off on my travels. I’m still here for another week or so though, so there will be another video uploaded to Patreon before I go…and then after that there will be a couple of Patreon-only videos scheduled to appear while I’m away.

I’ll explain more next time. I trust you’re all well, take care.

Comments (36)

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OzRetrocomp · September 17, 2023

I don't suppose it's possible to get the ruler out and measure the dimensions of the Bandai micro cartridge? I've tried searching and I can't find them anywhere. I suspect there may be a few people in the public comments section who are just as curious as I am.

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Techmoan · September 21, 2023

Sorry for the delay in responding I’ve only just seen this now. Fortunately I still have the carts in the house - the Bandai cart measures 33mm x 28mm x 10mm

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Grace Robbins · September 17, 2023

Mat, I'm thinking Sony NTC-90 tapes are almost, if not slightly smaller, in size to these carts.

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Techmoan · September 17, 2023

It think both those and the Dictaphone Pico tapes will take up less space - but the Bandai Micro Carts are the smallest ‘endless loop’ tapes.

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Bob Combs · September 15, 2023

While I've always hated continuous loop cartridges due to their self-destructive nature (particularly the 8-track) as I like more permanence in my music, your video was top shelf and top notch as always. Be well, my friend.

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James Clark · September 15, 2023

I had one of these as a kid parents got it for me from a rewards catalog except mine played regular cassette tapes, and had a manual on off/ volume dial. Had it up to a a few years ago and might still actually have it here somewhere.

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Chris Horry · September 15, 2023

Neat little device, and some clever engineering even if it is flawed. Nowadays, it'll be a tiny circuit board with a blob which is also impressive, but somehow far less interesting at the same time. I know it's about outside the scope of your channel, but ever considered covering Microdrives? They also use a tiny endless loop cartridge complete with some pretty annoying design flaws.

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Techmoan · September 15, 2023

They've never interested me - but there's plenty of YouTube videos covering the topic.

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aboogaard · September 15, 2023

Endless tape carts have the problem of literally winding themselves tighter and tighter as they play, eventually binding up. It's jus that 8 Track carts are much longer and so, they it takes longer for that to happen. Plus the slippery backing, of course.

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Nick Jones · September 15, 2023

In the late 80s I was a DJ at a small FM radio station. We used carts, as well as vinyl, compact cassette, and CD media. It was always exciting when a promo cart would bind or break a tape during live transmission, spurring the DJ to adlib, shove on a song, or hope the next promo cart was properly cued up.

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Roland Bogush · September 15, 2023

Wonderful! When I was 10 or 11 a 'toy' like this would have ticked a lot of boxes for me; moving parts, opening flaps, flashing coloured light AND it played songs. What's not to like?! Mat, I am slightly confused (my normal state these days!) but why could we hear the music playing backwards when you put the cassette in the wrong side up. Normally if there's music on Side A, you don't hear anything when playing a blank Side B - so I assume that they recorded the sound signal across the whole width of the tape. Wouldn't they have needed non-standard recording heads to do that? Or am I completely misunderstanding (very likely)? Have a good vacation!

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Techmoan · September 15, 2023

I’m not entirely sure of the track layout but if I remember correctly from the tests, the audio was just coming out of one channel - so it looks like they’d only recorded on the centre section of the tape.

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Andy Ihnatko · September 15, 2023

Are you bringing a Walkman or any other unusual tech with you on the trip? Relying on just your phone for photos and video?

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Techmoan · September 15, 2023

As tempted as I might be to take my Uher Reel to Reel or Soundburger to listen to around the ship on sea-days, I’m not travelling alone so (thankfully) I need to be more sensible in my choices. I am taking three small cameras in addition to my phone. Action, Compact & Mega Zoom. Oh and an Osmo Mobile 6 for the phone. I’m not sure I’ll get sufficient use out of any of them. My only real concession to old/odd tech will be the Playaway audiobook containing Kevin Mitnick’s Ghost in the Wires. I originally bought it just to show in a video, however I do want to listen to it but I’ve never had the time. I’m also thinking of taking a tiny FM radio as it might be interesting to see at what point it starts to pick up the US medication adverts instead of the UK accident management ones.

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David Fulton · September 15, 2023

There's something a little sad about a product that was "sorta" made with attention to detail. The spinning turntable and the lights are genuinely charming. But it's almost like that "A-Team" development crew were shooed away and replaced by disaffected teens from the electronics club.

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David Fulton · September 15, 2023

Such a fine line between tatty and crap. Or perhaps it's a distinction separated by an ocean. So, my mom adored crap like this and had both the Elvis doll and the jukebox. She ordered hers out of some catalog and for some reason I recall the jukebox being a steal at $15. But I'm sure she would have paid more. She got herself an Elvis "Ken" doll which was $30 in early 90's money.

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Brad Jones · September 14, 2023

Can't recall if you always put "Patreon Edition" in the title before it goes live, but that's good, as someone posted the Kenny Everett carts one on a forum I'm on before it went live. I let admin know, and it got taken down for a few days. I wonder if an early version of Mr Dengon or whatever it was called, would use a similar idea? Or was that tape anyway? I'll have to rewatch.

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Grace Robbins · September 14, 2023

Referenced video: https://youtu.be/iv8ryVux6eQ Good recall, same idea but larger.

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OzRetrocomp · September 14, 2023

The first thing I thought of when I saw this was the Bandai Micro-Cartridge's size compared to the ZX Microdrive's carts. But I guess you don't have a spare ZX Spectrum and/or ZX Microdrive lying around.

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Techmoan · September 14, 2023

I never used Microdrive - couldn't afford it back in the day.

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Kevin · September 14, 2023

Love the video. I'm wondering if playing up the toy angle would help with views. Low hanging fruit for the pocket rockers type viewers. I don't have the analytics obviously, but was just thinking that...

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Techmoan · September 15, 2023

I think that only works when it’s a product people remember fondly - even if that fondness was misguided.

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VWestlife · September 14, 2023

To add insult to injury for those who bought the "Wurlitzer jukebox", that's a re-recording of Lloyd Price's "Personality". The late '80s were a minefield of inferior re-recordings of '50s and '60s music, if you've seen my video about it. "Tequila" did seem to be the original recording, though, from the brief clip you played.

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Grace Robbins · September 14, 2023

I can vouch for that - once, I purchased a two-disc record compilation of The Everly Brothers Greatest Hits. Instead of getting the iconic renditions of 'Cathy's Clown' and 'Wake Up Little Suzie' I got nearly disco-ized unlistenable crap. What a letdown, but I learned my lesson.

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Funkmon · September 14, 2023

You insidious man. 40 years after the 80s is 20 years from now! Please

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Rik Kershaw-Moore · September 14, 2023

That’s a fantastic bit of miniaturisation…

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MrHammond · September 14, 2023

Cute

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MVVblog · September 14, 2023

Interestingly, the tape is recorded with a single track occupying the entire surface of the tape, mono full track. I wonder if the head in the player is mono full track. That would be really strange. Ok I saw the video better, the head in the player is mono 2 track as in all mono cassette recorders. However, it is still curious that they used a full track machine to record these tapes. A machine with which they usually make sample tapes to calibrate recorders.

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Dan Weiss · September 14, 2023

Like you, I am still curious what else might have used a cart this small for a non-novelty reason. Or maybe there was a Japanese novelty.

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Techmoan · September 14, 2023

I’ve got to imagine there was some kind of talking robot range etc.

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Ellis Garbutt · September 14, 2023

I'm well look forward to watching this video later hope your travel goes well

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Grace Robbins · September 14, 2023

• Nice thumbnail! Love the background color. • Aww, tiny tapes - I just love miniatures. • I have The Platters Greatest Hits record, so 'Only You' and 'Smoke Gets In Your Eyes' are two of my particular favorites. • Haha, a tiny Jukebox! 😉 Takes up very little space, much less than a real one. • Looks like that window needs some Brasso, but probably not worth messing with. • Your appear & disappear edits are great. • Back in the day, I used to splice cassette tape with Scotch tape. It worked fine - I had a ratty low-range 'boombox' which wouldn't have had high fidelity sound anyway. • I thoroughly enjoyed this tiny video - it had all the elements - fiddling with the internals and taking apart a tape. • Starring TC-D5M in a guest role! EDIT: wow, this product placement has, years later, gained fruitfulness - https://ibb.co/0MzCD0K I'm glad you're safe and sound - take it easy and take care. 🤍

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Techmoan · September 14, 2023

Yes as far as its earlier appearance…sometimes there’s quite an unintentionally protracted run-up to something getting its own video.

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AzoriusMage · September 14, 2023

Thanks always makes my day when a new video appears

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Holger P Kleinert · September 14, 2023

Very nicely done!

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CBits Tech · September 14, 2023

Rarely, I don't want to buy one. Have a good trip!